What's all this about a Cocteau Twins box set, then?

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From the 4AD site:
"This November, 4AD celebrates its 25th anniversary... celebratory projects include a deluxe Cocteau Twins 4 CD box set..."

What could it be? All the EPs squashed up on to four discs?

― Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

yes, that's exactly what it is. includes the post-4ad singles too

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

LULLABIES TO VIOLANE: REMASTERED COCTEAU TWINS SINGLES BOX SET FEATURING ALL THEIR SINGLES FROM 1982 TO 1996

For the first time all the non-album tracks from across the Cocteau Twins’ entire career have been compiled together and offer a unique view of their musical journey from the perspective of all their single / EP releases which incorporate most of their best known tracks.

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This is an unusual de-luxe package containing all 4 CD’s that will be available November 21 (UK / Europe) and November 22 (USA) in a worldwide limited edition of 10,000. The discs are contained in a fold-out package made of a material that itself sounds like a Cocteau Twins title – Curious Soft Touch Milk. It’s all very tactile, minimal and v23.

DAD 2513CD and DAD 2514CD
These are the regular versions of the box set which will be available early 2006. Each package is a digipak with 2 CD’s. Volume One covers the 4AD era (1982 – 1990) and Volume Two the Mercury / Capitol years (1993 – 1996).

The 4AD material was previously available in a 10 x CD box set which had a CD for each single, though this set features alternative mixes of "Pearly-Dewdrops’ Drops" and "Aikea-Guinea". Volume Two has never been anthologised and has tracks that were limited as singles as well as the Christmas tracks "Frosty The Snowman" and "Winter Wonderland".

CD1
LULLABIES (1982)
Feathers Oar-Blades
Alas Dies Laughing
It's All But An Ark-Lark

PEPPERMINT PIG (1983)
Peppermint Pig (7-inch version)
Laughlines
Hazel

SUNBURST AND SNOWBLIND (1983)
Sugar Hiccup (12” version)
From the Flagstones
Hitherto
Because of Whirl-Jack

THE SPANGLE MAKER (1984)
The Spangle Maker
Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops (alternate version)
Pepper-Tree

AIKEA-GUINEA (1985)
Aikea-Guinea (alternate version)
Kookaburra
Quisquose
Rococo

CD 2
TINY DYNAMINE (1985)
Pink Orange Red
Ribbed and Veined
Plain Tiger
Sultitan Itan

ECHOES IN A SHALLOW BAY (1985)
Great Spangled Fritillary
Melonella
Pale Clouded White
Eggs and Their Shells

LOVE’S EASY TEARS (1986)
Love's Easy Tears
Those Eyes, That Mouth
Sigh's Smell of Farewell
Orange Appled

ICEBLINK LUCK (1990)
Iceblink Luck
Mizake the Mizan
Watchlar

CD 3
EVANGELINE (1993)
Evangeline
Mud and Dark
Summer-blink

SNOW (1993)
Winter Wonderland
Frosty the Snowman

BLUEBEARD (1993)
Bluebeard
Three-Swept
Ice-Pulse
Bluebeard (acoustic version)

TWINLIGHTS (1994)
Rilkean Heart (acoustic version)
Golden-Vein (acoustic version)
Pink Orange Red (acoustic version)
Half-Gifts (acoustic version)

CD 4
OTHERNESS (1995) Mark Clifford remixes
Feet-Like Fins
Seekers Who Are Lovers
Violaine
Cherry-Coloured Funk

TISHBITE (1995)
Tishbite
Primitive Heart
Flock of Soul
Round
An Elan

VIOLAINE (1996)
Violaine
Smile
Tranquil Eye
Circling Girl
Alice

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Mmm... convenient.

― Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 22:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

mmmm...not as good as the one i sold to the vinyl exchange in '02 when i were skint.

i'd have preferred the get-back-together tour we were promised

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

So it has "alternate" versions of two of their essential tracks, but without the more familiar takes??? Sorry, I'll pass.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's just so f*cking annoying I can't believe it.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah that is kinda stupid

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Here's your New Order four disc set. An acoustic version of "Blue Monday" appears in place of the original 12" mix."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Here's your My Bloody Valentine box. The Andrew Weatherall remix of "Soon" appears in place of the original."

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

etc

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

From Guthrie's weblog:

"The alternative takes that I've found of Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops and Aikea Guinea are choices I made from around 3 or 4 takes of, and hey, fuck it, this is the pertinent point, essentially the same mix.
When I originally mixed these tracks it was over a 2 to 3 day timescale and, with the novelty of automation, I was in the habit of putting a few different versions down before I'd felt I had it 'right'.

Of course, one has to only wait twenty odd years to realize that someone, somewhere, just due to the very existence of these artifacts, will find it fit to choose one as the definitive version over the rest, usually an obscure rejected version, done when I was high and forgot to unmute the vocals until ringo climbed down from the ceiling with the drugs and got back on to his kit..therefore denying me the pleasure, and this is a rare thing in my business, of applying a little hindsight to the issue in hand.

Thus I decided which of the mixes (I found, in some cases, five or six), were better...... and used them accordingly. There is a glorious guitar part on the version of Pearly Dew-Drops' Drops which was never apparent for some reason............I remember the reason, very arcane but solvable with todays tech. And now solved it's a job well done as far as I'm concerned."

I'm sure he likes the new "improved" versions of Star Wars IV-VI better as well...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

that doesn't seem so bad.. at least it's not a different take or summat

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

the alternate versions are there to force 4AD collectors to re-buy the first volume. cha-ching. i'll wait for the handy second volume, collecting all the post-4AD singles. which are in fact really good!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

xpost:
That's *exactly* what he's saying. Different takes, same "mix" (I think he's saying made at the same time on the same equipment).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah i dinnae read it proper like

― jimmy glass (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

What? No 12" version of "Peppermint Pig"?

Commence more grumbling now.

― sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 00:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Weird. Well, I'll get it anyway (or at the least the second volume, cause I only have Twinlights, Otherness and the Xmas songs from that one).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I like the other one plenty -- and I like how each of the EP's are indiv. CD's myself.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 01:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

on the other hand, stuffing each CD with multiple EPs making ripping go much quicker. then you can keep the digipak safe in your 4AD humidor.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 03:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

They should have found room for "Millimillenary", just because, and just because it's good.

― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Here's your My Bloody Valentine box. The Andrew Weatherall remix of "Soon" appears in place of the original."

Sounds good to me.

Quickly, ducks bricks being thrown by Ned

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

New Order compilations actually are like that! The original version of Temptation is still unreissued AFAIK. Apart from on a comp called The Indie Scene 1982, but that's OOP.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

Quickly, ducks bricks being thrown by Ned

Keep running.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

**The original version of Temptation is still unreissued AFAIK**

The original 7" is coming out on the Singles 2CD set. The original 12" is on the Retro box.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

i'll buy it like a sucker, cos' the deluxe version sounds lovely. i have all these recordings three times over but, it will be nice to have it all in one spot.

i just wish that they had done a proper recording of the last tour with mark clifford. it would be nice to have proper version of the tracks they did live with him... especially pitch the baby (one of my faves of all times)

i agree wholeheartedly with deluxe as well...

"They should have found room for "Millimillenary", just because, and just because it's good."

― ehbenoit, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I wish they had included "Crush" too cause it's an essential track (and a single), but I'll buy the whole thing anyway.

― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

For someone too young to know, was the 10-disc set *not* remastered?

― mike powell (mike powell), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 13:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not to Chris Ott's liking, no.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

no it wasn't. but I've also heard that the guthrie remasters of the albums that came out in the past year or so sucked.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

They should have found room for "Millimillenary", just because, and just because it's good.

Thirded.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Here's the artwork.

― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Here's the album/box art.

― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

I believed you the first time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

I can't understand why.

― matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

> on the other hand, stuffing each CD with multiple EPs making ripping go much quicker. then you can keep the digipak safe in your 4AD humidor.

there's probably space for the new box set *inside* the old box set (the 10 slimline cases of the uk version left plenty of leeway in there iirc).

this wouldn't be the first time i'd effectively shelled out money just for new 4ad artwork. last time was for that football single they did the cover of (southhampton? sunderland? one of those) but that was only 20p...

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

That's *exactly* what he's saying. Different takes, same "mix" (I think he's saying made at the same time on the same equipment).

he isn't really saying that. it's kind of hard to figure out, but I think what he's really saying is that these are just different mixes that he made at the same time of the same tracks. maybe some of those tracks didn't make all the mixes. it's difficult to really call recording of multitrack stuff a "take" anyway. my guess is that most of these tracks are the same as the ones on the version we already know, maybe this mix has some other things that were dropped.

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 18 November 2005 16:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

So like we were saying.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

haven't bought it yet mainly because the day I was in the shop they were playing it and I had to hear Frosty The Snowman and Winter Wonderland and I wasn't in the mood. I'll get it eventually though.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Same here -- I actually sold back the various singles I already had, figured why not. The nice thing is that since I have The Pink Opaque I have the 'original' versions of the two alternates.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

good point; is it safe to sell the box set then? are the bonus tracks on the extra ep on this?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

They aren't, which is why I kept that and sold back the rest. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

These are very compact packages.

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

i wonder.....if you can keep that, sell back the other eps, and then fit all the cocteau twins album cds in the box?

these are the things I worry about when I should be working.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 22:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

* "Crushed" is easily my favorite Cocteaux track, but I already have it on CD from the first box, so I guess I'm not too devastated. A real shame for anyone who hasn't heard it, though.

* I think the Andrew Weatherall mix of "Soon" is absolutely brilliant. One of my favorite dance tracks of all time.

* Yes, lame not to include all the miscellaneous other rarities, but they were rather adamant on keeping this collection limited to "singles only." This enables them to release a new box set every ten years for the rest of eternity, each time strategically adding or subtracting certain items to keep the completists coming back (paging Elvis Costello....)

― Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Crushed is on 'Lonely Is An Eyesore', no?

I found myself buying Lullabies to Violane at the weekend. I have not listened yet tho - I'm sort of saving it up for Xmas.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 23:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe someone will give me this for christmas, so I won't have sticker shock when seeing the price.

― Vinegar and Artichoke Hearts (Bimble...), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's cheap

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Amazon has the list price as $39.98. I know I paid way more for that 10 CD set.

― brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

i paid at least $50 for the box (twice!)

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 45 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Amazon UK have the 4CD version up for sale again, this time at £15.99. Surely some mistake? I ordered one anyway.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 08:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

the fabric the cover is made of is delightful

― rizzx (rizzx), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 11:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the one that's been relisted doesn't have the "limited edition packaging" though.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 11:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

I got this at Xmas - I'm surprised how great some of their later stuff is. I'd lost interest when those recds came out originally. Violane has sort of *powerchords* albeit in a diffuse way.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 11:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not bothered about the packaging, I'd only end up using it as a hanky :-(

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 12:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

I bought the BBC thing "to tide me over" but I don't really like it very much. Not enough to listen to it all the way through, in fact. Sounds quite mundane and Siouxsie-ish. What was teenage me thinking?

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Uh? The BBC thing is what got me back into the CTs. The versions of the early stuff are solid enough, but the 90's stuff is spectacular! As often with Beeb stuff, the lack of time for farting around removes some layers that the artist relies on as a style-crutch (here : diffuse curtians of flange and delay) and allows you to hear what's really going on.

Mundane and Siouxsie-ish? These words do not go together.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the flange is what I'm missing - the otherworldliness. (Is that one word?) So it's sort of alarming to hear what's really going on. I say mundane because I previously thought it sounded like nothing on earth. At one point it sounds a bit like Yossou N'Dour. I haven't given it much of a chance yet though.

I suppose listening to stuff you used to like is a bit like "never meet your heroes". Well, for me at least.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 February 2006 11:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

musette and drums, last track disc 1 is good (from whistle test or same?), check that one out. but yeah yr right; dead disappointing the beeb sessions album.

― piscesboy, Monday, 13 February 2006 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I was thinking I might change it for some "proper" albums instead - Treasure, Vickyland and Bluebell Pub.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 13 February 2006 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't get much out of the BBC sessions either, but I haven't really given them a fair chance. I bought it thinking I would love it, considering they're one of my favorite groups, but I listened to it once and didn't think it was all that great. Most of the songs sounded just like the album versions, and the earlier material didn't interest me all that much; it didn't have that specific sound of their later material.

― Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Monday, 13 February 2006 18:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Have been listening again. I was enjoying the instrumental track Otterley until it dawned on me that the underlying tune could be the soundtrack to an Eric Morecombe romantic interlude in That Riviera Touch.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

You say that like it's a bad thing.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Uh? The BBC thing is what got me back into the CTs. The versions of the early stuff are solid enough, but the 90's stuff is spectacular!

Astonishingly OTM.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have this lovely cd box. The packaging is so touchable. I was a 4AD fanatic when a kid and have heaps of Cocteaux vinyl, but little from the major label. They continued to write some lovely songs. Rilkean Heart I don't remember, but it's gorgeous.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I now have this boxset. I bought it in Spain for just under 30 euro.

I am enjoying listening to it.

I was perhaps a little hasty about the BBC thing, but still.

I hadn't heard these records for a long time, but I could spot the differences in the alternate versions. I would have preferred the originals. I miss the fade-in, but still.

The packaging is made of what I can only describe as slightly clammy cardboard. I thought it would be some kind of cloth. It is very toucahble, but I am not touching it in case it gets grubby.

Amazon, meanwhile, have told me they need a further 4 - 6 weeks to get it. I am leaving the order open, just to see what happens - nothing, I suspect.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 27 March 2006 06:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is now available as two seperate cds

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Two separate two-CD sets, to be pedantic.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 27 March 2006 19:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, the 2CD sets look nice too. I thought they would be plain. I would be interested to know how many more copies of set 1 they sell than set 2.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

I got my hands on this and it's really quite nice, especially the 4AD aspects of it. I'd only heard 3 of their LPs until now, and this grand collection has really made me think better of the band than I had previously.

― Harrison Barr (Petar), Saturday, 1 April 2006 20:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

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Cocteau Twins "Lullabies to Violaine: Singles and Extended Plays
[4CD] [LIMITED EDITION] [IMPORT] [BOX SET]"

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Ner ner, got one anyway.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I was lucky enough to find one of these sets today. There were quite a few of the two 2-disc sets there as well, and just one of the 4-disc sets.

Does anyone know how "limited" the boxsets are?

― van igloo (van smack), Friday, 28 April 2006 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

10,000 copies, apparently.

― Lotta Continua (Damian), Saturday, 29 April 2006 10:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

Still one of the best repackagings out there.

"Sugar hiccuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!"

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2009 20:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I <3 my singles box

― CharlieS, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah having *everything* by them that's not on the albums in 1 place was a genius move. it pretty much IS everything isn't it? i mean every offcut, compilation track, instrumental etc?

― piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Actually not -- "Millimillenary" and the various cuts on the bonus EP with the original box set are missing.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh? wow i could have sworn 'crushed' 'dials' and the 'oomingmak instrumental' were on it. i wonder why they aren't.

i wonder also what happened to the reunion in the end. i'd rather see them reform than just about anyone else.

― piscesx, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

There's a story behind that...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

This is simply an EPs boxset, covering all the individual releases from '82 to '96 (with a bit of cheaty revisionism in including "Orange Appled", which never came out in the UK, I don't think - Love's Easy Tears was a three-tracker over here). It would've been nice to tie up all the loose ends and gather the tracks from NME/MM comps, the 1991 boxset bonus disc, etc, but I s'pose it just didn't fit the brief.

― Michael Jones, Monday, 2 November 2009 23:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

ah yeah that explains my confsuion i knew one of the odds n extras was on there somehwere.

jeez... i feel sorry for the Coachella guy who was promoting the reunion to that stage.

― piscesx, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

So... what exactly would be the tracklisting for the bonus 5th disc of non-lp stuff not collected therein?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Dials] (CT 1 CD)
10-1 Dials 2:39
10-2 Crushed 3:17
10-3 The High Monkey-Monk 3:07
10-4 Oomingmak (Instrumental) 2:43

http://www.discogs.com/Cocteau-Twins-Singles-Collection/release/330647

― sleeve, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

and that is the tenth disc

― sleeve, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Off the top of my head...

Millimilenary (NME single, collected on The Pink Opaque in '85)
Dials (1987-ish track? Only in 1991 boxset)
The High Monkey-Monk (1987-ish, on 1990 Melody Maker comp)
Oomingmak instrumental (though, y'know, it's only an instrumental; features as the closing credits music on Lonely As An Eyesore video comp)
Crushed (on Lonely As An Eyesore)

Anything else?

(xp think GMcB-B was asking what would go on a 5th disc if Lullabies To Violaine was expanded to include all non-album stuff)

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

oh ok

― sleeve, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Lonely IS An Eyesore. Jeez. Sorry, Kristin.

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 00:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i wonder what else was on those Gigantic tapes that the melody maker did? i'm sure a blog or torrent has them all up somewhere. they seemed to be the very badge of indie cred when ever i saw them at some older friend's house or whatever. man that was a long time ago.

― piscesx, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 01:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

aha
Gigantic http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=578274
Gigantic 2 http://www.discogs.com/Various-Gigantic-2/release/1748233

man just looking at the font of the first one makes me mental nostalgic.

― piscesx, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 01:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i have a cd version of gigantic 2 floating about somewhere..

― quaq quao, sweetie (electricsound), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 01:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Two more:

"Need-Fire" from the Judge Dredd soundtrack album
"Touch Upon Touch" from the Volume 17 compilation

― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 05:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"Orange Appled" did come out over here, it was on a Melody Maker giveaway single.

― I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 07:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

True, but it wasn't on the original 4AD single Love's Easy Tears, which is how it's presented in both the 1991 boxset and 2005's EP comp. I think it was tacked on there for US CD-single release some time later. I dunno, I should probably Google this, shouldn't I?

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 15:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I think it was tacked on there for US CD-single release some time later.

Yup, that's how I originally heard it via the brief time Relativity distributed some Cocteaus releases pre-Capitol.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Ned it's such a tough call, is "Orange Appled" their signature track? Just because it's so obviously one of those creative explosions captured to tape quickly, it's so honestly *them* and pre-songcraft...YOU TELL ME.

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:01 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Uh...it's all right?

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

And he gives me the high-hat...

― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

> i have a cd version of gigantic 2 floating about somewhere..

hope it plays better than mine 8) (is probably the worst case of coppering i've seen)

my tape of the first one got chewed in the player as well. jinxed.

― koogs, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

boxset bonus disk now a common-as-muck amazon download btw

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cocteau-Twins-Singles-Collection/dp/B001MXEERY/ref=sr_shvl_album_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1257274426&sr=301-4

but no lullabies to violaine volume 2 available digitally which means i'm still missing those last few tracks (but not much)

― koogs, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

hope it plays better than mine 8) (is probably the worst case of coppering i've seen)

most of it does, i think when i last played it the end of the birdland track was fucked up. no great loss tbh

― quaq quao, sweetie (electricsound), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 21:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

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