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The rules are we take an album track listing, and we remove one track, giving a reason why it is the worst track of the selection. Then we post the track listing again with that track removed, and the next poster whittles it down by one further track. The person who eventually whittles it down to a single track - ie the pure ILM essence of the album - posts the next album track listing, and the process begins again.

The Results So Far:

Joy Division - Closer: "Decades"
ABBA - Arrival: "Arrival"
Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets: "Needle In The Camel's Eye"
The Police - Synchronicity: UNFINISHED
David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive: UNFINISHED
Talking Heads - Remain In Light: "Once In A Lifetime"
The Beatles - The Beatles: "I'm So Tired"
Blondie - Parallel Lines: "Picture This"
Michael Jackson - Thriller: "Billie Jean"
Guns'n'Roses - Appetite For Destruction: "It's So Easy"
Robyn - Robyn: "Handle Me"

OK, so I start with that old ILM favourite 'Closer':

1 Atrocity Exhibition
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5 Means to an End
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

Very tricky. Not a bad song on this album, not even close. But if I have to remove a track it's going to be Means To An End, which has a sort of plodding feel to it that sometimes bores me. So:

1 Atrocity Exhibition
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

young, gifted and slack, Friday, 23 September 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll eliminate Atrocity Exhibition. Great, and yet a touch too long for an opening track methinks. I sometimes find myself skipping it. (also, the pure essence of this album is obviously Decades)

1
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4 Colony
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

Franck R., Friday, 23 September 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll eliminate Colony, which has always been my least favorite track and has something unsuccessfully thrashy about it.

1
2 Isolation
3 Passover
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

mrjosh (mrjosh), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

This is madness...but I'll play along. I'll take out Isolation. Just doesn't seem right for this album. It was a toss up between this and Heart and Soul which seems like it would fit perfectly on 'Movement.'

1
2
3 Passover
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Of the tracks that remain, I guess Passover is the weakest. It's got that horribly world-weary feel of the rest of the album, but it doesn't have the urgency of Heart & Soul or 24 Hours, and I don't find it as rythmically compelling.

1
2
3
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7 Twenty Four Hours
8 Eternal
9 Decades

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jz, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

this sounds fun, but I dont know this album :(

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

'isolation' is my fave track on this album :(

N_RQ, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Album killing bastards!

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

There's some clichéd imagery on 24 Hours: destiny unfolding, clouds marking every move etc. I'd say it's the weakest here. Heart & Soul is sort of a similar song but much better.

1
2
3
4
5
6 Heart and Soul
7
8 Eternal
9 Decades

TRW, Friday, 23 September 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't believe heart and soul lingered this long

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8 Eternal
9 Decades

bb (bbrz), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

(maybe we should Double Nickles on the Dime next, so more people can play...)

bb (bbrz), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

if anyone touches "the roar of the masses" i'm going to kill them

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

agggh - somebody who loves joy division please fucking axe one of these joy division songs!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 Decades

I haven't listened to this record for years but I can remember "Decades", and let's face it, the here are the young men bits are iconic.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah i mean i love joy division but shit, colony is one of my fave songs on this album specificially because of its thrashiness - there was a lot more metal in jd's sound than people give them credit for. and yeah, decades is probably the most inherently closer-esque song here

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

shit, damn server overload turned back this poxy fule. SHIT! i would have kept The Eternal so i could wallow in my own filthy self-pity.

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Why did we get rid of "Twenty-Four Hours?" I suppose in a toss-up between Decades and the Eternal I'd have to axe Decades because it represents a specific part of the album (that is, the end). I know that sounds dumb, but there's more to Closer than despair--right?--and it seems like Decades is a relentlessly despairing song, not capturing the "Essence of Closer" as well as the Eternal (or Twenty Four Hours, you bastards).

owen moorhead (i heart daniel miller), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

hey tom - post a new album!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

or else ill do it!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Sides 1 and 2 are so radically different I can't see how "Decades" can embody the whole album.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh OK, I didn't read that bit.

ABBA - Arrival

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3 My Love, My Life (3:51)
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6 Money, Money, Money (3:06)
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

(Fernando is on the remastered version and was on the Australian pressing of the original too, also, it's good.)

I will remove My Love, My Life - big ballads are deffo part of the ABBA magic but this isn't a great one and I don't think the balladry is what Arrival will be remembered for.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6 Money, Money, Money (3:06)
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"money money money" pisses me off sometimes.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11 Fernando

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

"Fernando"'s a bit arse, really.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2 Dancing Queen (3:51)
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

can we just say Dancing Queen wins and move to an interesting album?

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

youre just mad because we didnt immediately do new order after joy division!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I can think of two on there that could conceivably beat "Dancing Queen".

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a classic album! One of my all time favourites. If you haven't listened to it you should, biz. I don't think DQ is necessarily its "essence" either but I've had my say.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

oh snap. too true petesmith and you don't even know me!

xpost. they may beat Dancing Queen but we all know that's the very essense of ABBA. did you see the 30years of ABBA documentary where they were discussing Dancing Queen?

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck Muriel's and every other wedding.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4 Dum Dum Diddle (2:53)
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link

(i may not know you, but i know how to effectively/creepily use the search function)

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

yes! fuck weddings! its the sentiment of the year!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

(i may not know you, but i know how to effectively/creepily use the search function)
-- petesmith (plsmit...), September 23rd, 2005


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Knowing Me, Knowing You...AH HA!

simple pleasures!

ok, here's my pick:

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8 Why Did It Have to Be Me (3:21)
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Goodbye Dum Dum Diddle!

biz, Friday, 23 September 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

ILM stopped for a minute there. Like Dancing Queen being scratched off the wedding turntable and replaced by something from side two of The Visitors.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not a bad song, Dum Dum Diddle, but the obvious lyric-crisis holes it a bit.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope there's an album I know soon (this is unlikely actually)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

i hope the essential song is knowing me knowing you.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

you cant just sit there and wish, carly! take aim!

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm. this feels like a sport or game!
i'm taking out Why Did It Have to Be Me because i imagine singling it out for removal and hearing it go, "but carly, why did it have to be me?"

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5 Knowing Me, Knowing You (4:01)
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

hurry to the next album people (i can't give a hand on this one as i don't know it enough).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Knowing Me, Knowing You is just too long.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9 Tiger (2:55)
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

oh man. i can't say i'm not disappointed. this day of work has been something of a waste.

i hope three more people come along to help us figure this out, so we can move on to a new album.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

just because "Tiger" always creeped me out a little as a kid.

1 When I Kissed the Teacher (3:02)
2
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

jonviachicago, Friday, 23 September 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I have always hated When I Kissed The Teacher - Now can someone take That's Me please?


1
3
4
5
6
7 That's Me (3:15)
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Arrival is better.
1
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10 Arrival (3:01)
11

Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3. Baby's On Fire
4. Cindy Tell Me
5. Driving Me Backwards
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

This may be a tad bit controversial, but "Baby's On Fire"always struck me as sort of meandering.. and considering how awesome the rest of the album is it's pretty easily the worst;

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5. Driving Me Backwards
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Baby's On Fire? Come on!

Anyway, Driving Me Backwards is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9. Some of them Are Old
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I hit the skip button every time Some of Them Are Old comes on.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7. Blank Frank
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think i could take any of them way, they're all so awesome.

carly (carly), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link

they're all good songs, but "Blank Frank" doesn't quite reach greatness.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6. On Some Faraway Beach
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Friday, 23 September 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I am grieving the loss of "Backwards" ... once tedious, over the years it grew on me and now I think it's mental as anything.

"Faraway Beach" however, belongs on "Another Green World" so it gets the axe here.

1. Needle in the Camel's Eye
2. Paw Paw Negro Blowtorch
3.
4. Cindy Tell Me
5.
6.
7.
8. Dead Finks Don't Talk
9.
10. Here Come the Warm Jets

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

...also, I'd actually rather give reasons for keeping the other trax. Would make for a more postive thread, eh? and point to 'essence'

needles - makes me bob my head uncontrollably like wayne and garth. covered finely by volcano suns, which has same effect

paw paw - the long break, the phased guitar, the completely different sonic flavor of 'send for an ambulance..." verse

cindy - couldn't part with the buzzsaw guitar solo intro

dead finks - oh cheeky cheeky - oh perfect masters - need I say more?

here come the warm jets - because it's so much more than it seems. drums falling out of sync. guitar/synth combo sounding both balls-out hard and kind of background at the same time. the idea of ending an album with a song that doesn't resolve a friggin thing.

declan zimmerman, Friday, 23 September 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Ouch, I'm crushed at the early exits of "It Ain't Easy" and "Lady Stardust"! The latter I thought had a reasonable shot at being the sole survivor...oh well.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

really? I figured it would be between ziggy stardust and suffragette city

what happened? i am confused. (sarahel), Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:56 (fourteen years ago) link

same here

Dan S, Sunday, 30 August 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Just to spite you for chucking Starman.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, I think that's a fair move fwiw.

Pullman/Paxton Revolving Bills (Pillbox), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Ziggy and Suffragette both great songs but not the "essence" to me - maybe Ziggy, but Suffragette is just too uptempo and kick-ass to be the essence of this collection of anomie and dreamy nostalgia for a dying world, etc. Whereas the chorus of "Lady Stardust" just NAILS it for me - there's such a wistful way he remembers the way the band WAS all together, and he SANG allllllll niiiiiight....long! Ahhh, just great stuff.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link

So, of what's left, Five Years would be my pick even though I like Moonage Daydream slightly more as a song...

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Bizarrely enough, I always thought the pure essence of Ziggy Stardust was "Life on Mars."

Mordy, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd have gone with "Soul Love" as the pure essence, but of the ones left, it's "Five Years", that's all we've got.

my dixie wrecked (Euler), Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Ouch, I'm crushed at the early exits of "It Ain't Easy"

What on earth do you like about the song?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 07:38 (fourteen years ago) link

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7. Storms - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

'not that funny' - I like it, but it sorta screams 'minor track'

iatee, Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link

re: It Ain't Easy: mainly just really fun to sing along to the chorus, but I also like the texture of the verse, the way it bumps back and forth...it's a good track, I dunno!

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

k gotcha DC:)

"Storms" is outta here. Too goddamn long. Too goddamn slow. The kind of track (so many of them, in fact) that makes me wonder if Tusk is truly an Exile-style masterpiece of energy depletion or just boring. Thank gawd Stevie offered up "Sara" because she's definitely the weakest line for me here. The only other track of hers I'd keep were I to winnow Tusk down to one (vinyl) disc is "Sisters of the Moon" because at least it rocks (probably besides the point, I know but voila).

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12. That's Enough for Me - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link

1. Over & Over - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

That's enough for me too...

Mordy, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw, "Storms is probably my favourite.

Sundar, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link

It's your fave song on the album? Mais pourquoi?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19. Tusk - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Too long, too plodding, too boring. Not weird enough. Totally the wrong beginning for this album, which is kind of fitting but does not make for fun listening. It took me years to listen to it all the way through.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 30 August 2009 10:04 (fourteen years ago) link

re: It Ain't Easy: mainly just really fun to sing along to the chorus, but I also like the texture of the verse, the way it bumps back and forth...it's a good track, I dunno!

I don't know why it gets such a bad rap either, it's a fine song.

chap, Sunday, 30 August 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

"Tusk" has to go, its bizarre and I love it, but as a song it can't really compete with the heavy hitters on this album.

wouldn't mind doing The Dreaming if this one ever gets wrapped up...

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 1 December 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just to spite you for chucking Starman.

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3. "Moonage Daydream" – 4:35
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

― Sickamous (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, August 30, 2009 3:00 AM Bookmark

This is still waiting for its last couple of cuts!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 December 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

REVIVE

YESTER/HENSKE FAREWELL ALDEBARAN

1 "Snowblind" - 3:07
2 "Horses on a Stick" - 2:10
3 "Lullaby" - 2:55
4 "St. Nicholas Hall" - 3:35
5 "Three Ravens" - 3:30
6 "Raider" - 5:12
7 "Mrs. Connor" - 2:17 (also listed as "One More Time")
8 "Rapture" - 4:09
9 "Charity" - 3:17
10 "Farewell Aldebaran" - 4:21

farewell mrs connor

69, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

also

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

69, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link

please, let five years win, i love the hell out of "Suffragette City" but it is by no means the essence of this creepy waiting-for-death weirdo from space record

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 August 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

there you go

1. "Five Years" – 4:43
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. "Suffragette City" – 3:19
11.

cock chirea, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link

YESTER/HENSKE FAREWELL ALDEBARAN

1 "Snowblind" - 3:07
2 "Horses on a Stick" - 2:10
3 "Lullaby" - 2:55
4 "St. Nicholas Hall" - 3:35
5 "Three Ravens" - 3:30
6 "Raider" - 5:12

8 "Rapture" - 4:09
9 "Charity" - 3:17
10 "Farewell Aldebaran" - 4:21

cock chirea, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

yeahhhhh! justice is served

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 8 August 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

i wholeheartedly love every song that's still left on this one except...

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10. Sisters of the Moon - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

(also, i just searched my itunes for the word "sisters" and that was my least favorite of the six songs that showed up.)

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 August 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link

Storms & OAO nixed already? This is madness.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 8 August 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

Surely the title track has to win on Farewell Aldebaran? Or do I need to listen to the album more because I'm an idiot?

emil.y, Thursday, 8 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link

can't believe somebody didn't cut this already:

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

sleeve, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

can't believe somebody did cut the title song. speaking of madness.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link

How is "Beautiful Child" any kind of obvious cut? It's one of the best songs on the album!

JRN, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link

seriously fuck you for cutting "beautiful child"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

hahaha hey that's the breaks here, sorry! It never did much for me. Came in #8 on the album poll, which honestly surprises me.

Don't Say That You Love Me: The TUSK Poll.

sleeve, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

Surely the title track has to win on Farewell Aldebaran? Or do I need to listen to the album more because I'm an idiot?

― emil.y, Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:26 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

youre not an idiot, but you need to listen to it more

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17. Beautiful Child - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

swear to god youll thank me later

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

oops

1.
2. The Ledge - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

69, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

Tusk is my favourite album of all time but of the remaining tracks I'd definitely cut 'Save Me a Place' - 'Walk a Thin Line' does the same sort of thing better.

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 August 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

my first post was itt!

we run zings, zings don't run we (The Reverend), Friday, 9 August 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

^cool Rev. i hope you're still proud of it!

xp in general: i really think there's a tension here between the title of the thread ("the pure essence of an album") and the suggested procedure. not so much the whittling away (necessarily painful, but i'm cool with that), but the fact that we're to whittle away what we think the "worst" remaining track is. or let me put it in more straightforward terms: i don't think the procedure of removing the songs we just don't like is a way for us to collectively arrive at the "essence" of an album. for example, on led zep iv, "stairway to heaven" is probably my least favorite track. but it would be one of the last tracks i would remove in trying to get at the essence of the album. similarly, i can totally get why someone might not dig "tusk" or "storms", but i like to think even these people would think the former to be one of the signature tracks of the album, and as for the latter, yeah, it's a little languid and doesn't "rock", but its naked, lo-fi, at times tune-less intimacy is exactly the kind of thing you'd find on this album and no other by this band.

(but yeah i'll admit my username strips me of any claims to objectivity)

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 9 August 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

i think i proposed this thread-type originally (though i cant find that thread)? and like DEFINITELY its some hyperbole but like i feel you, i like storms too!

69, Friday, 9 August 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link

the casualness with which people cut things is pretty great

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 9 August 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link

I for one never followed the 'worst' line of thinking, or maybe took it as "the worst in terms of fitting the pure essence criteria." I actually think there are probably some very good albums whose 'essence' song might be among the worst tracks! Like, "Four Sticks" might actually be it for Zoso.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 9 August 2013 05:06 (ten years ago) link

the casualness with which people cut things is pretty great

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, August 9, 2013 5:04 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I for one never followed the 'worst' line of thinking, or maybe took it as "the worst in terms of fitting the pure essence criteria." I actually think there are probably some very good albums whose 'essence' song might be among the worst tracks! Like, "Four Sticks" might actually be it for Zoso.

― Doctor Casino, Friday, August 9, 2013 5:06 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTMZ

69, Friday, 9 August 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, Doctor C, it was clear to me from your comment on Five Years that you were thinking about this in exactly the right way.

But instead of acknowledging you, I chose to pout, harrumph and take my ball home because some of the other boys were being mean to songs i like.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 10 August 2013 06:14 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

No longer active (Moka), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

I keed, I keed

1.
2.
3. Think About Me - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
4. Save Me a Place - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
5. Sara - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
6. What Makes You Think You're the One - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
7.
8. That's All for Everyone - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
9.
10.
11. Angel - Fleetwood Mac, Nicks, Stevie
12.
13. Brown Eyes - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine
14.
15.
16.
17.
18. Walk a Thin Line - Fleetwood Mac, Buckingham, Lindsey
19.
20. Never Forget - Fleetwood Mac, McVie, Christine

― No longer active (Moka), Fri

No longer active (Moka), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

David Sylvian - Secrets of the Beehive

1. September
2. The Boy With The Gun
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 November 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

actually, missed one. should look like this now:

1.
2.
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 November 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

1.
2.
3.
4. Orpheus
5.
6.
7.
8. Let The Happiness In
9. Waterfront
10.

(Hint to next person: Let the Happiness In)

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 November 2016 05:23 (seven years ago) link


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