"Trend-Bucking PASTE Now Trendy Magazine"

ARRRRGH DIE DIE DIE DIE

"It’s not the mind-blowing masterpiece the critics are so dizzily carping about, but as a milepost of the current state of world electronica it remains strong throughout."

sounds horrible, incidentally? neo-soul as an "in" to modern black music = *barf*

"Absolutely we could and should be stronger there," he says. "And slowly and surely, we are putting our money where our mouth is. We're working on a big feature on [black Atlanta singer-songwriter] India Arie. The whole neo-soul thing seems to be a place where folks in our audience — who, let's just say, don't listen to a lot of music made by black people — can start."

hmmm...this brings to mind another line from "The Classical"

HAHAHAHA! And it's called PASTE!

jesus! a bruce cockburn album as the soundtrack to yr life!

also, it pisses me off when the guy talks about buying a quiet riot album and doesn't even realize that it was a slade cover! geezer rock mag dudes should know shit like that!

featuring:

Jim White
Average White Band
Whitesnake
White Lion
The White Stripes
The Negro Problem
White Zombie
Snow
Paul Anka

That said, that they all picked "Illinois" is cringey.

Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson, of the hip-hop band the Roots, is the only black person to have a Paste cover. "And I can see where that could be perceived as a plus and a minus," Thompson says.

I really, really want to know why this guy thinks it could be perceived as a plus, rather than a minus or a neutral matter.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ("admits")

haha man, I don't know - the fact that they feel so guilty about it and realize that they're tastes are totally whitebread is really the issue, and kinda problematic (do they have an "obligation" to publicize "black" music? I don't really think so, but they DO, as critics, have an obligation to have better/wider tastes - heh heh)

Oh, okay then. Thank you, Super-Indie Man.

You know, this might require some elaboration.

Sorry, I shouldn't have said that -- I'm not the fastest poster on ILx.

hott!

I don't want to seem disingenuous here, but I'm not sure what this means, you may have to spell this out for me.

My point is that there isn't a magazine around whose gender slant is EVER gonna get called out, because for the most part, guys call all the shots & that's just fine with the guys

Dude, Rolling Stone, for one (and only one), was called out God knows how many number of times for its condescending women-in-rock and the-year-women-rocked cliches. (Or do you mean called out here, on ILx, rather than in general?)

People raise the "look, if women made more good records/wrote more good reviews, I'd listen/read" argument often, but flip that (this is what I think I origianlly meant when I started the very oblique comment you quote tho I can't really figure it as it ran now - sorry 'bout that) to racial stuff (Paste claiming, here a straw-Paste: "if there were music by black folks that was as good as what we're covering, we'd cover it") and you'll get poxy fuled on ilm inside of five minutes, so great will the hue & cry be. Why is that? Why is a prodominantly white, male group of people thinking about music so keenly interested in magazines' perceived whiteness, but not remotely interested (on the available evidence) in their disproportionate maleness?

YUPPIE!

I'm not saying "aha secret sexists!" but wondering why, again, a bunch of white guys are real hungry to right wrongs in the racial sphere but give up pretty quickly on the gender question!

I don't think so. not here anyway. most recent example I can think of was a thread about Gwen Stefani's "Hollaback Girl" and what implications that had as far as the mainstream music industry allowing only one kind of female voice to be heard: the adolescent/sexy kind...

well Shakey I mean maybe it's just me! does it really seem to you that people get called out for sexism as often as they get called out for racism on ilm?

That said, all evidence points to the suckiness of the taste of Paste's editors.

Ed Ward has written some terrific pieces for Paste.

I have to echo that the writing in Paste is very uneven, but there's always at least a few quality pieces worth reading. It's not always enough for me to buy, though, especially with their cover price.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/paste/the-campaign-to-save-paste.html

Paste Needs You!

The global recession has taken its toll on Paste as advertisers have slashed their spending. We are turning to our readers to help bridge the gap. Even a small contribution can make a big difference.

Join 75+ of our favorite artists in the campaign to save Paste and get rare & exclusive tracks as a thank you.

Artists include The Decemberists, Neko Case, She & Him, Cowboy Junkies, Of Montreal, Indigo Girls, Jayhawks, String Cheese Incident, G. Love, Josh Rouse, The Hives, Matthew Sweet, The Avett Brothers, Joe Henry, John Roderick of The Long Winters, Over the Rhine, Bob Mould, Arrested Development, Brandi Carlile, John Doe, Josh Ritter, Marc Broussard and more. We also have a number of goodies (such as signed R.E.M. and Band of Horses posters, an ocean-view cabin on next year's Cayamo cruise, and more) to give to donors in random drawings.

Grown-ups using "goodies"=Dud

I supported the magazine in their last desperate promotion (name your price for a subscription) I did pay, because I love a sampler and I had read them in the past.

The magazine was just so boring though. From a visual and a written perspective, I was interested in the subjects, but it didn't enthuse me at all. The few CDs I listened to weren't bad, but I didn't go out and hunt something down as a result.

When I saw this thread revived, I wondered if I would respond, because for all I know people here have work for them, and I don't really feel like running down people who've done the work that I would have liked to have down if I had done the work required to be one of those people, but the general tone of this (2005) thread was so negative that I feel like defending the magazine.

except it was boring.

oh, wonderful.

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2010/09/paste-magazine-ceases-publication.html

now i'm losing hope that i'll ever get paid for the $$$ i'm owed. when MAGNET pulled this shit the editor stopped responding to emails and i never got my cash.

how is that legal

It's not... and it happens at more magazines than I care to list by name

http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/system/images/writers/micro/josh-jackson.jpg?1280787155

whiney don't get me started on how DIW shafted me

Don't even get me started on this shit.

When Metal Edge went under, I submitted a complete list of who was owed what, and the bookkeeping department (without my input) decided to pay writers 50 cents on the dollar. I felt really bad about that; now I'm starting to think it was a shocking display of generosity.

I feel for the editors, both for losing a job and for having to string freelancers along on payment for so long.

I obviously have no idea what's going on with this stuff, but why aren't writers paid immediately when the final draft of their stuff is submitted? or, you know, say every week or every two weeks on the same day

No.

Sorry, I misread the sentence--as "aren't writers?" not "why aren't writers?"

Your guess is as good as mine!

markers, alt-weeklies are good about paying right away - or within 2-3 weeks, anyway. (well, most of them are. usually.) magazines are a totally different deal. when i was writing for magnet (and getting paid for it) my checks came MONTHS after the fact. it was kind of like the old days, when you'd mail a check for something that would be sent to you in "4-6 weeks." then it would arrive at the point you'd forgotten it was even coming.

that seems super unjust -- especially since, obviously, magazines are nothing without their writers

this is pretty fucked

ppl that are owed money by paste should hack their website and solicit reader donations for owed moneys imo

is there a US equivalent of a small claims court you can take this to, matos?

i once got paid TWO YEARS after doing some work for a publication - just in time, two months later they folded. i find that this sometimes results in my spending the money three times - on being commissioned, on being published and then whoops, on being paid as well.

According to the link, they are ceasing the print version but continuing online.

Surely that's enough to consider them a going concern, and get paid for previous work?

Considering most writers there were effectively doing it for the <3 Plan B was v diligent about paying writers (and refundung subscriptions) when it went under

I have never read Paste but I assume that the fact ppl here are just talking about getting paid tells its own story?

I submitted a review there a week or three before the Rupture. Hasn't run on the site. Emails to now-former editors met with "we no longer work here, email the head honcho" replies. Emails to head honcho ignored. Wondering whether the thing will run on the site, or what, or if I should just sell it elsewhere. I mean, I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not getting paid for anything I've written for this magazine one way or the other.

Thoughts?

Sorry, this doesn't answer your question, but did Magnet cease print publication?

I meant Paste, but yeah, MAGNET's out of the print game (for a while now).

Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. I saw your revive post from 3 weeks back. Was never really into Paste but was a big MAGNET fan in college. To continue a topic you're probably not interested in discussing, any idea when they ceased? Their website doesn't make it clear.

at least two years now? last print issue was a while ago anyway.

i got followed by a twitter spambot whose tweets are all weight loss spam and then one tweet that's "man, there's something about this track!" with a link to a Paste blog post, really cracked me up

was this the worst name for a music magazine in history?