The strawman of the white, DJ Shadow/Jurassic 5 loving, university student hip-hop fan

Dom you said "I'm seriously interested on this one, and I have no real answers. Do discuss." and now you say it was "Early attempt at trolling here, not really a classic." How will we ever know if you are being disingenuous in the future?

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I'm seriously interested on this one, and I have no real answers.

^^^ An obsessive interest in researching scandal/gossip that's happened in the past, manifesting itself as revivals of old threads to highlight some post or statement that's supposedly funny or o_0 or whatever.

wtf guys i just wanted to big up an arrested development revival

HOOS I was ^^^ing gebbnab

In an age where hip-hop stars are regularly lambasted for inciting violence, misogyny and homophobia, and where a lot of the time this is true, it could be all too easy to slip into a jaded view of the whole genre. But by dismissing it out of hand, a whole world of musical pioneering could be missed - for every Ludacris there's a Mos Def, for every G-Unit there's a De La Soul. Hip-Hop can have something to say, and it can be as meaningful as any lyric sung by some misanthropic indie singer.

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still easier to take the piss out of the dj shadow fan (i dunno if this sort of fan still exists though, theyve probably moved onto clipse/wayne etc and regard their earlier 'corny' def jux/prefuse/rjd2 phase with embarassment) than the person who thinks lil boosie and plies are keeping the levels high.

theyve probably moved onto clipse/wayne etc and regard their earlier 'corny' def jux/prefuse/rjd2 phase with embarassment

haha yeah i think this is key. the new strawman regards jay-z playing glastonbury in 2008 as a great leap forward.

where does that blipster dude dom was blogging about fit into this?

I like DJ Shadow, sorry.

lol i think that blipster dude wants beef

Hot beef injection from Dom Passantino.

I d/led that DJ Shadow early stuff 4xCD sprawl about a month ago but haven't listened to any of it yet. I should get round to it really.

haha yeah i think this is key. the new strawman regards jay-z playing glastonbury in 2008 as a great leap forward.

Back in the day, we built our strawmen from people we saw walking round university campuses. Now we build them based on late twentysomethings we read on the internet.

pretty much, though i am still a student!

This kind of guy (generalise from your own experience) also listens to a set list of indie and IDM types, but you never hear indie fans complaining about how Super Furry Animals fans are ruining indie, or electronica types talking about "Yet _another_ Aphex Twin fan".

Haha RONG.

Yeah isn't Aphex Twin the signifier for someone claiming "I'm not really into that dance stuff, although I don't mind Come to Daddy?" Dance music for 6Music listeners. Again, I like Aphex Twin!

sopering point but this autumn's fresher intake were not born when aphex put out his first record, so they're not going to be invested in his work in quite the same way as us old lags.

sobering. hic.

Since it's not 1998 any more, you probably need to substitute Aphex Twin for The Bug or Burial or someone.

Actually this strawman still pops up in my head whenever I look at the Friday night listings for Fabric. These people will always exist, unless weed suddenly disappears from the surface of the earth.

I'm old, just not down with the hippy students any more.

Come To Daddy would be morelike the token pick for 'open minded'-but-not-really metal fans FWIW (Dillinger Escape Plan covered it for example)

good thread.

bring back the old Dom!

Amount of people who know I like hip-hop and have tried bringing up scroobius pip or whatever that shit is in the past 6 months: 7.

Amount of people who know I like hip-hop and have talked to me about Jurassic 5/Dj Shadow etc. ever: O.

Amount of people who have talked to me about Lil Wayne/T.I.: 1.

I hate only knowing students.

yikes, i just ran into the blog post that inspired this revive by accident.

A producer and a poet from Essex weren't the most likely candidates to become the saviours of intelligent hip-hop, but with Scroobius Pip's wit and biting social commentary backed up by Dan le Sac's 8-bit bleeps and beats, it's hard to disagree.

Should we invite that dude on her to defend himself?

unfortunate typo there robinho.

it really takes a lot to raise my ire these days when it comes to music, but le sac and pip do it every. single. time.

so yes let's get that blogger on here.

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...."scroobius pip?"

In an age where hip-hop stars are regularly lambasted for inciting violence, misogyny and homophobia, and where a lot of the time this is true, it could be all too easy to slip into a jaded view of the whole genre. But by dismissing it out of hand, a whole world of musical pioneering could be missed - for every Ludacris there's a Mos Def, for every G-Unit there's a De La Soul. Hip-Hop can have something to say, and it can be as meaningful as any lyric sung by some misanthropic indie singer.

― Mare Street tour guide (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

also, dunno where that's from, but it *sounds* like something from my high school newspaper

Dan Le Sac should've produced 'Slime And Reason'

Haha I was about to say, surely this strawman grew up and started writing for Hip-Hop Connection?

Can I get my own grandmother pregnant first?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, July 25, 2005 7:09 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol italians

She's dead now :-(

hope you're happy and what

i got nothing...

of course not. he said she's dead, didn't he?

As if by magic, Chipmunk's new single has just come on the radio and seems a brazen attempt to appeal to this market. :(

what, dead grannies?

Nothing to do with dead grannies, no. I'm not sure what magic has to do with anything either really.

"Sometimes songs will reappear in your head for no reason. You'll start humming a tune, and only recognise what that song is a minute later. I love it when this happens, it's a true affirmation of loving a song, that it's buried almost subconsciously into you. For me, today, it was "Midnight Surprise" by Lightspeed Champion."

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If Lightspeed Champion had sold some records, we could easily have used him as a punchline more often.

Or if he had a drummer

If Lightspeed Champion had sold some records, we could easily have used him as a punchline more often.

Can't think of any other pop musician to have had no sales bump whatsoever after an untimely death. RIP big man.

I used to know a lot of "heads" (all white guys, natch) who listened to music such as this on their studio quality headphones while walking around town, their dreadlocked hair tucked neatly into their rastafarian hats

Man, that must have been an awful fictional town.