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is there merit in them? are they worth spending moeny on? they seem so noisy. Are they anything like the pixies? Bob Mo0uld seems kind of boring musically.

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

is there merit in them?
Yes.
are they worth spending moeny on?
Depends.
they seem so noisy.
Compared to?
Are they anything like the pixies?
They have guitars, bass, and drums.
Bob Mo0uld seems kind of boring musically.
Sometimes.

― Jon, remind me again why you haven't drowned in your own vomit (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

Everything by this band is worth owning, but I'd start with:

Zen Arcade
New Day Rising
Flip Your Wig

If you have a record player, these sound better on vinyl, and are cheaper, too.

― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

They are abrasive at first if you're not used to hardcore but they grow on you nicely if you give them a chance. Some other threads that will help.

Search and Destroy: Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

Pick only one song: POO! Husker Du

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hüsker Dü Classic or Dud?
Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.
POO! Husker Du
Husker Du Dreams

X POST

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 04:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yes, they are noisy. Don't listen if you have delicate ears.

― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 10:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

if yo are the mike hanley ive known all my life, i can't believe yr asking this question...

and if you are and if yr serious...ill send you some husker du...

― b b, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

If you like intense, noisy hardcore, get Land Speed Record. It rocks (in a sloppy way). If you're not into hardcore, skip this one, you won't like it!

Pete Scholtes OTM.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Even though it's pretty maligned, I love Warehouse and think it's probably the easiest of their albums to get into. I always thought Candy Apple Grey blew though...

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

Flip Your Wig is their best.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

I keep waiting for the day I understand the froth that this band stirs in people.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 15:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

What's not to love? They wrote an astounding number of great songs in a real short time period. Two accomplished songwriters. Heavy, melodic guitar.

People started "frothing" about them around 1984 with Zen Arcade, or 83 with Metal Circus if you want to nitpick. From that time until their last album in 1987, they released so much great music:

Zen Arcade (would be untouchable if it were produced better)
New Day Rising (most fans' favorite)
Flip Your Wig (my favorite, is loaded with hits)
Candy Apple Grey (underrated, Grant Hart's songs are better than Bob's)
Warehouse (another great record)

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

They were an incredible singles band.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

That was a nice history lesson.

I really prefer Bob Mould solo or with Sugar and Grant Hart solo. I have to imagine that if I had heard of them in high school in the 80s I could potentially have gotten into them (if I heard the Replacements ten years after they broke up instead of four years before would my love be the same?), but its really been a struggle to understand the appeal looking backwards. Also, their records are of such phenomenally poor sound quality that the dynamicism that people always speak of is utterly lacking from an album listening standpoint. I did like the section that Michael Azerrad devoted to the band in his book "This Band Could Be Your Life," however. Its another example of appreciation rather than respect or liking.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

i've loved bob mould and sugar's stuff, but i could never really get into Husker Du. the songs (in lyric and music) seem way boring, obvious, juvenile to me. the vinyl suggestion is interesting b/c listening to that stuff on CD sounds like bad production in you face to me-so maybe a turntable helps. but so far, i find myself embarrassed when listening to most Husker. occassionally put on New Day Rising but its only a mild guilty pleasure. sucks b/c i always wanted the Sugar sound but just a little harder/thrashier and less melodic, but Husker wasn't really like that.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

I really like Everything Falls Apart too....I think that gets overlooked too often...great stuff on there...Their earlier, punk stuff is way better than people give it credit for.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

much like the Replacements in that way...sometimes I think Stink is the best thing they ever did and Sorry Ma...is good too.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

matt otm...on both bands

― b b, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

they're unimpeachable for quite a long stretch of time. we've had threads here on how hard the production/sound of the records blows though, particularly on cd, and undercuts some of the power, as it does for a lot of classic sst stuff. anyway all the stuff from Zen Arcade through Flip Your Wig is fantastic although Metal Circus is, for my money, the most consistently strong thing they ever did - and yeah, I wouldn't discount the early punk stuff. Don't care much for Candy Apple, although kornrulez is correct about Grant's songs being far better than Bob's ("Don't Want to Know if you are Lonely" and "Dead Set on Destruction" in particular), and think Warehouse just plain sucks.

it is somewhat "juvenile," but how is that a problem for a rock band?

― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

(underrated, Grant Hart's songs are better than Bob's)

I would apply this statement to the entire Husker Du catalogue.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

These Important Years off of Warehouse is such a tear jerker though.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

xpost - juvenile shouldn't be a major problem i suppose. is it possible to have heard only Candy Apple Grey Warehouse and New Day Rising only....and not have gotten it? I mean maybe I just picked their bad ones. I always wanted to like them.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

+the guitars on "i will never forget you" sound like two bolts of lightning cancelling themselves out with their own mighty mirrored awesomeness
+the inarticulate mould vocal freakout at the end of "eight miles high" is like an "ave maria" thing
+the way they exaggerate the hang in the verse of the live version of "masochism world" sounds like trains falling off a cliff
+the harmonies when the crazy lady screams "merry eiffel tower high"
+the strange cyclical chord pattern in "new day rising"= like running up a hill that keeps crumbling beneath your feet.
+"turn on the news" should've been song by pops staple on some abc variety special/telethon in 1974
+the words to "diane" are fucking boneheaded/retarded (like some bad outtake from "nebraska"), but it's somehow the most beatiful song in the world and you play it over and over and know every syllable by heart
+they were on "the joan rivers show" when "warehouse" came out, but i was a teenager on drugs and fell asleep before they came on...

― BLUE,bland,BoBby!!! (bland,BLUE,BoBby!!!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was just lisetning to zen arcade clips on tower reccords .com, (a thing always forget about) - you're right, they are hardcore. I imagined more like sugar. They sound likea demon is attacking. Its hard for me to get into. I like operatic granduer and such, not just hardcore noise attack. I don't knock them though, I'm glad such bands exist.
70's - rock got soft - punk made it harden - late 80's and beyond - rock got too hard - belle and sebastian - bring it back to proper hardness? or too soft again? BALaNCE!

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

Susan, you gotta hear "Makes no Sense at All" off Flip Your Wig (if you have not) - their best song, probably. Great song!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

p.s - who was that that wanted to send me husker? I'd take some! especially the rollie fingers mustcahe guy's songs - i think he is better. does this prove drugs make better songs? just kiddin

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

I don't think that Greg Norton wrote any songs (?? i'm pretty sure)...he's the bass player w/the fucking hall of fame moustache.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 18:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

wow, BLUE,bland,BoBby makes it sound so perfect. i am tempted to check these songs out.
can someone ysi/or email me Makes No Sense at All or I Will Never Forget You or Eight Miles High ?

Matt - if you want "Sunspots" by Mould(really different from Husker stuff, but beautiful and a must have for sure.. i will send.)

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

Greg Norton wrote one of the "Warehouse" b-sides, I think.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Minneapolis PBS station used to play "Sunspots" on their "Coming Up Next" segues.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

michael...

emailed you...but thining now, i dont have much in a burnable format anymore. i'll have to look through.

i go in for zen arcade, but its a bit more rough than somepeople want. when i 1st bought it in highschool i was looking for new day rising or something...lord know what i thought i wanted then. but in recent years ive come to really like it.

on greg norton: what about the whole "whoever wrote it sang it" [sic] not in all the record sleeves....

― b b, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Greg Norton wrote 'Every Time' B-side of something or other but also on the 'Living End' live LP. Didn't he sing it too? (or at least sang it with Grant/Bob).

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

forget that last statement (greg norton)....its time for a needed nap...

sadly i wont get it...

ill listen to living end later and see

― b b, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Someone once told me that Greg sings on "Flexible Flyer". Unlikely as it is, I hope that it's true.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Minneapolis PBS station used to play "Sunspots" on their "Coming Up Next" segues.

-- Pleasant Plains /// (pleasant.plain...), July 13th, 2005.

So did NPR's All Things Considered.

― MV, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

IS THERE ANYTHING BETTER THAN DIVIDE AND CONQUER BY THE HUSKER DUDES

― ddb (ddb), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

i won't be accepting or ysing his stuff anymore. i am reminded from another of his thread on his reactions when fans wanted to hear the new album. and i don't want to support this man any longer.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 19:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

Wha?

Grant Hart plays tomorrow, July 14, at the Turf Club in St. Paul. $3 cover.

― subgenius (subgenius), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

You don't want to support Bob Mould because he doesn't like it when you give away his album for free?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

hart is playing with a great band called the Shut-Ins who i've heard on myspace and are supposed to be really great.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

xpost - not at all, but going after fans who have supported him heavily in the past seems a little shortsighted to me. he is not missy elliott and hte folks interested in hearing hew music early are by and large the die-hard fans of old. i felt a lot of fandom towards him, but I just can't after reading his comments about fans getting free music. but this means that if the product is good and i happen to hear it i may buy it, but i'm not going to spend time recommending or pursuing his stuff anymore esp. since output has been mediocre at best for years.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 23:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's apples to oranges, but I've always kinda seen it like bringing a camera to a show. If Bob Mould told me that I couldn't take pictures during his show, i'd say fine, whatever, even though I would have no intention of selling the pictures anywhere.

I don't know if I'm going to buy any of his new records because I don't think I like the "Sugar meets Cher" direction he's gone toward.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 14 July 2005 02:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

someone defend nova mob. go on do it!

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 14 July 2005 03:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

I was just lisetning to zen arcade clips on tower reccords .com, (a thing always forget about) - you're right, they are hardcore. I imagined more like sugar. They sound likea demon is attacking.

not sure what exactly we all mean by "hardcore" here, but i'd say the huskers were hardcore when they started and were pretty damn close to anti-hardcore by the time they got to zen arcade. catchy verse-chorus-verse songwriting, some hippie sentiment and emotion, a bit of acoustic guitar, some piano, some psychedelic guitar jamming. it's hardcore tempered by a newfound love of mid-'60s beatles and byrds. check out: "pink turns to blue," "never talking to you again," "one step at a time," "turn on the news," "something i learned today," for starters. then see if you still think it's a hardcore album. or a pop album with low-budget hardcore production.

subsequent albums got progressively more poppy. and better produced. sometimes for the better, but sometimes not.

and, yes, do check out "makes no sense at all" from flip your wig, which was a year or so later.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nova Mob was fine, tho Grant himself said that they ran out of money when they mixing the 1st album. They remixed it and were going to release it on Pachyderm(the label Grant's last solo album came out on) when the label owner's wife ran off with the investor, and that was that.

but the tapes exist, somewhere.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 14 July 2005 04:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

They were hardcore as long as they put their little symbol on the record somewhere. And they were always punk. I don't get the production complaints, but then I think the song "Everything Falls Apart" sounds perfect the way it is, and I'm an '80s kid.

"Sugar meets Cher": Had the pleasure of seeing Mould spin at a gay club in Minneapolis on Pride weekend two weeks ago, and it felt like a new genre. Still waiting for him to post the set list (here's an older one):
http://blowoff.us/set%206-11-05.html

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Nova Mob has some good stuff - Little Miss Understanding, Last Days of Pompeii, and (ESP) the EPIC - Shoot Your Way To Freedom (I have the orig. 7 inch jackets that apparently the Nova Mob boys took out and actually shot with rifles, they have bullet holes in them)

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

I want to eat at Greg Norton's restaurant!

Has anyone eaten at Greg Norton's restaurant?

― dr. phil, Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I recommend the bass.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think side b of flip yr wig is one of the best sides of a rekkid

― Anton Levain (jdchurchill), Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

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― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

gatefold double LP remasters 180 gram vinyl

― omar little, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 20:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

hell yeah full catalog reissue and remaster i bet, fuck fuck fuck yeah

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

thx ilx

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

greg norton sex tpe

― Intent to Distribute (buzza), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

I did wonder if there was a likelihood after the Sugar remasters. But did think that interpersonal feeling inside the band might mean this unlikely.
Well will certainly grab a few of these if they appear.

Hopefully they'll reprint the Land Speed Record inner again. So I can look through the list of bands and think how few I've heard of.

― Stevolende, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 10:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

the song titles on LSR are some of my favorites ever: "Push the Button," "Let's Go Die," "Guns at My School," "Tired of Doing Things," "You're Naive." even though i rarely put it on

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

all the husker du records really could use a remaster, the sound quality/production SUCKS!

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

Seriously, I've held off on buying the rest of the catalog for nearly 20 years now after hearing how thin Zen Arcade sounded. Will immediately drop the $$ for a full reissue campaign.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

all the husker du records really could use a remaster, the sound quality/production SUCKS!

I think you guys are getting your hopes up too much. Remastering can't fix the poor recording techniques and shoddy equipment that were clearly present at the recording sessions.

― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

Well yeah, but I've heard Zen Arcade on both vinyl and CD, the CD sounds like shit and the vinyl sounds pretty decent. So I know that the CD/digital stuff actually does have room for improvement.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

i really don't think Spot's recording techniques were poor, although he was working under serious time/budget restrictions. but my Du vinyl sounds rad, and my Du CDs mostly sound awful, so there's work that can be done.

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

the song titles on LSR are some of my favorites ever: "Push the Button," "Let's Go Die," "Guns at My School," "Tired of Doing Things," "You're Naive." even though i rarely put it on

Yeah, this - 'Do the Bee' is another good one.

― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 14:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

Coming this fall - Hüsker Dü poll on ILM.

― pplains, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think you guys are getting your hopes up too much. Remastering can't fix the poor recording techniques and shoddy equipment that were clearly present at the recording sessions.

I hear the three of them are going back to re-record their entire catalogue with Jeff Lynne and Don Was on the boards.

― pplains, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

^^ I'm being snarky, but I would totally listen to that version of Warehouse.

― pplains, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

I hear the three of them are going back to re-record their entire catalogue with Jeff Lynne and Don Was on the boards.

You're kind of talking more about production than recording. Steve Albini has good recording technique, but that doesn't mean his stuff sounds like Jeff Lynne, although you could probably make Albini's raw tracks sound like Jeff Lynne through production if you wanted to, because you can make a well-recorded track sound like anything. Albini would have been a good producer and mixer for Husker Du. Spot always sounded a bit limp and thin to me... but apparently, I need to listen on vinyl?

― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

wonder why i never heard how 'bad' the recordings were til 1998

― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

spot gets a bad rap IMO, nothing else he ever did sounded like huskers...i think that's how the band SOUNDED. they were motorheads with horrible gear!

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

also i think the whole thing works for them

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 15:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

^otm

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

Mould produced the first Man-Sized Action record which is as harsh/thin as the Huskers records, maybe even more...

― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

also the first Impaler record "If We Had Brains We'd Be Dangerous", which is real thin too

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

just saw bunch of new pressings of SST LPs at a record store last weekend, including all the Husker Du (even Land Speed and the 7"s), so curious who'd be releasing 180gm remasters

― llurk, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

not that the SST albums couldn't use a remastering, but yeah, blaming spot for any deficiencies seems off the mark -- afaik the sst recording ethos was about documentation, treating bands as BANDS with a minimum of studio interference. so i mean, those records are kind of how husker du sounded. i think! i don't know. but i wouldn't want the du LPs to sound like sugar records or something (i've never really like the production on those, tho i haven't heard the new versions).

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, seems like there were a bunch of new SST pressings unleashed into the world, picked up the Saint Vitus Thirsty and Miserable 12" over the weekend.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

those records are kind of how husker du sounded. i think! i don't know.

I saw them live back then and yeah that's kinda right. Can't remember whether folks were grumbling over the sound of Husker Du vinyl back then.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

afaik the sst recording ethos was about documentation, treating bands as BANDS with a minimum of studio interference.

also they literally had NO money.

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

haha, yes!
it was a weird time, you know? obviously part of the hardcore thing was a complete rejection of classic rock techniques (at least in the beginning). i think maybe people's frustration w/ the production might stem from the ways that husker du started moving in a somewhat more classic rock direction but spot was still recording them like they were a hardcore band? i kinda like the tension there, but would new day rising sound better if it was recorded like an allman bros. record? i don't know! maybe!

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

i kinda think new day rising sounds perfect anyway tbh

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

i suggested to joe carducci that a lot of the SST stuff could do with remastering etc when i was researching my black flag book a few years back, and he wouldn't hear any of it. he thinks they sound like they're supposed to sound (i just kind of wish they weren't so quiet on CD, and also that Land Speed Record wasn't just two tracks).

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 16:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

also i think the whole thing works for them

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 5, 2012 8:57 AM (1 hour ago)

otm, it does. and most of their albums sound great cranked on vinyl. new day rising (my favorite) is the only one that i think really needs a remix/remaster, but i worry that what i like about it might be diluted in rendering it more ear-friendly. it's basically the american psychocandy.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

Or REM given Iggy's in-the-red Raw Power remix.

― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think what we all want is better sounding CD/digital versions. My Du vinyl sounds great and doesn't really need any fixing. but the digital versions are fucking awful. really really thin, tin can kind of sound. not good. i just would like to see a more accurate digital remaster that's closer to the power and heft of the vinyl.

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

What I can tell you is that for the first time ever, all three members now share legal representation, which sounds minor, but is a major factor that has impeded progress on reissues in the past. Dunno when anything might actually happen, and can't share (minimal) further details, but for the first time the ducks are lined up and the will is actually there.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 17:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

Though they're not as muffled, the Warners records are, weirdly, even thinner-sounding than the Spot-produced SST stuff. I'm sure the amphetamines didn't help in the mixing process. I would totally buy reissues - love their tunes, but after awhile all that treble starts to give me a headache. I think it's a major reason why the Husker Du compilations I've put together on my own don't listen nearly as good as the track listings would suggest - 7 or 8 songs in and you already need a rest.

― mobs of burly teen christgaus (thewufs), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

love their tunes, but after awhile all that treble starts to give me a headache.

this is so true for me too

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah for all the complaints about the SST records, Warehouse sounds TERRIBLE, just a horrible, horrible production. At least the earlier records captured something, fizzy and tinny though it was. In fact I can't think of a worse sounding major label album than Warehouse.

― don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

agree. at least with the early SST albums, you can turn them up loud enough to overcome the tinniness. there's nothing that can be done for warehouse. crying shame, cuz the songs are there.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

yea warehouse sounds like bullshit, could you be the one should've been a massive song, it's not the songwriting that held them back it was the punky production. bob was really into speed right?

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

and imo the gated reverb on grant's drums isn't that cool

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

fuck im listening to flip your wig right now and i take that back completely

― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 23:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

I like the production on every HD album except "Candy Apple Grey."

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2012 03:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

really? i like the production on the sst albums, with certain reservations, but the two WB albums are disappointing, and warehouse is way worse than candy apple.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Thursday, 6 September 2012 03:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm at peace with it. I've come to appreciate the brittleness of "Warehouse."

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2012 11:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Feelin' this remaster:

― pplains, Thursday, 6 September 2012 13:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

New Day Rising and Warehouse are the two albums that sounded particularly bad to me - Candy Apple Grey never bothered me, even on CD (I've since bought the vinyl though and it is an improvement).

― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 6 September 2012 13:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

lol pp

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, 6 September 2012 17:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

new song unearthed!!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/husker-du-rerelease-lost-statues-song-premiere-20130121

― kl0ppa john's (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 January 2013 23:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

didn't they have a kind of one-take studio ethos. i think they also mixed pretty roughly and on-the-fly and never went back to fix it. so i don't think a remaster would do the trick, but a remixing might.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 20:46 (3 months ago) Permalink

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