― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:22 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
I need more practice...
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:26 (8 years ago) Permalink
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― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 16 June 2005 04:21 (8 years ago) Permalink
Mixtape master J. Period has teamed up with Hip-Hop diva Lauryn Hill topresent "The Best of Lauryn Hill" (hosted by Lauryn Hill). The mixtape, adouble CD collection, features over 80 tracks of remixes, concertperformances, personal commentary & interviews from Lauryn herself. Formore visit: http://www.jperiod.com.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 June 2005 04:41 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 16 June 2005 05:29 (8 years ago) Permalink
― latebloomer: We kissy kiss in the rear view (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 05:40 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 16 June 2005 05:41 (8 years ago) Permalink
And what category of crazy are we putting her? Whitney? Brian Wilson? Syd Barrett? All of these could be properly called bat-shit crazy.
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:19 (8 years ago) Permalink
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:33 (8 years ago) Permalink
but did she throw her hands in the air?
― metal detective (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:45 (8 years ago) Permalink
― swvl (vozick), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Seriously, though (tracerhand), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
Over the past few years, it has been speculated that Hill has grown mentally unstable and is being influenced by a less than ethical "spiritual leader" who allegedly has taken great sums of money for his leadership. It is also reported that Hill referred this spiritual leader to the currently embattled comedian Dave Chapelle.
Looks like Pappawheelie was OTM...
― cicatrix, Thursday, 30 June 2005 09:35 (7 years ago) Permalink
― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 30 June 2005 12:50 (7 years ago) Permalink
yep, still crazy
― HI DERE, Friday, 29 June 2007 20:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
The sad thing is it really shouldn't be crazy for her to work her way into something new, or even to be a little demanding or ramshackle about the process -- there just seems to be some intense crazy involved in her sitting around for years doing it and shooting off in a million directions and getting worse and worse at what she could do before and just not getting anything worthwhile done. I mean, geez, she could be the biggest musical genius in the world -- it makes no difference if she can't get it together to finish anything.
― nabisco, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:02 (5 years ago) Permalink
Her new song "Lose Myself" is wonderful.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
Indeed.
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
Lauryn Hill doing afro-pop/reggae-infused soul sounds like it should be really good.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:17 (5 years ago) Permalink
huh that lose myself song is cool...different.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 29 June 2007 21:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
So...Ms. Lauryn Hill (billed as such) is playing at this hippie festival in Sonoma County. Coheadliners: Slightly Stoopid. 1-day pass: $35. Do I buy tickets? Could be an interesting meltdown or ACTUALLY AWESOME.
― More more more ass we are all addicted to ass (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 3 June 2010 18:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
She played here (as Sly & Robbie's singer!) a few months ago, and there didn't seem to be any outbreaks of lunacy reported.
― Señor Communications Adviser (sic), Friday, 4 June 2010 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
was she where bizarre clown makeup?
― what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
where = wearing
― what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Friday, 4 June 2010 02:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Jeeeeeeesus that line-up. Surprised these guys aren't playing:
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
What a pretentious jerk is Ms. Hill.
http://nyti.ms/ezt1T6
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's astonishing, her self-righteousness. She was three hours late.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
Going to see Lauryn Hill in 2010 is pretty much asking for it.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
nothing about that story surprises me at all
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
To the crowd she was both thankful and indignantly apologetic. “I spent my entire 20s sacrificing my life to give you love. So when I hear people complain, I don’t know what to tell you,” she said. “I personally know I’m worth the wait.”
fuck OFF.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
Any ILXORs there?
― thirdalternative, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
hmm she apparently has a show booked in mpls and i was thinking of going
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
Don't do it
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
the article makes her seem sad and lost (tho she also seems reprehensible).
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
saw her at rock the bells and it was pretty sad
― predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wonder if the keyboard player's still in the band.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 06:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
Um. See? Here's the thing. Having read all of those articles and live reviews, a bunch of my friends and I bought tickets to see her tonight in Montreal anyway. And I don't know what was different about today but it was astounding?
Doors at 9:30, DJ at 11, Lauryn took the stage just after midnight. The first couple songs were the refixes of older stuff - a metalled up version of Ex Factor, and then a smooth post-rock sort of take on it, an extended gospel-y When It Hurts So Bad, rawk take on Lost Ones, reggae version of Final Hour. The vocals were occasionally scratchy but mostly impeccable. To Zion, and then a big note-perfect Fugees flashback, which included a jammy How Many Mics?, Flamingos' "I Only Have Eyes For You" into Zealots, the O.G. Ready or Not and a reggae Fu-Gee-La and Killing Me Softly, and Turn Your Lights Down Low and Doo Wop to close.
She was in a pretty great mood the entire 2 hour set. Lots of crowd banter, lots of jokes with her band and with us. Seemed very thankful that we were there. Appreciative, even? Dancing and grooving and promised to come back soon.
So...maybe this was an anomaly, but if she can be like this more often, basically, Lauryn Hill is BACK so far as I'm concerned.
― Alex in Montreal, Monday, 24 January 2011 08:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think the ny times review was real positive, despite her being so late
― chev rivera (stevie), Monday, 24 January 2011 08:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
By all accounts her First Avenue show was fantastic--wish I'd been able to go. She hung out with fans and posed for photos afterward.
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think a lot of the complaints have to do with people like her drastically changed/funk-metal versions of her old shit or not. I went to Rock The Bells and was totally :D and everyone around me was o_O
― alpaca bowl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
i know someone - an old-skool r&b fan unlikely to be into anything like "funk-metal" - who went to her atl show and adored it.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
gonna write a Twilight Zone spec script in which one day all music suddenly sounds like Infectious Grooves, and Whiney, the only happy man left on earth, has a bad ear infection and loses his hearing
― trv kvnt (some dude), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
isn't everything?
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 16:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
no
― turtwig greenturty (Matt P), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 16:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
note to borads:
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
your posts are incoherent no matter the length.
― turtwig greenturty (Matt P), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
fuck off, matt. there's no need for this kind of garbage.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 17:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
goddam asswart of a human being
Weird how her mugshot is the most "together" she's looked in years.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 19:46 (10 months ago) Permalink
lol "prep school" -- you're way off the mark pal but OOH BURN
― bert yansh (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 20:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
what is a "prep school" anyway? just a private school? or do you have to live there for it to be a prep school? like brenden frasier in school ties?
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 20:56 (10 months ago) Permalink
you meant "perp school," which trains you to be a felon like Ms. Hill.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 20:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
you are about to witness the strength of street knowledge
brb
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
― deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 14:53 (1 month ago) Permalink
Production is a nightmare, was feeling the rhymes even if they're hella paranoid
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 May 2013 14:58 (1 month ago) Permalink
something tells me hip-hop is about to get its chinese democracy
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:18 (1 month ago) Permalink
Sounds like it should be on the new Killah Priest album.
― deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:22 (1 month ago) Permalink
The "I'm not crazy, society is crazy" hermitude posture is compelling, although in her case it's probably a little of both.
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:24 (1 month ago) Permalink
^^^ truth.
This song was awesome:
― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:32 (1 month ago) Permalink
on the evidence of these lyrics i don't think lauryn is crazy, i think she's quite sharp, but either she's lost interest in or has just lost the art of presentation
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:49 (1 month ago) Permalink
― deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:22 (4 hours ago) Permalink
lol
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 6 May 2013 19:50 (1 month ago) Permalink
I think the new song is legitimately exciting and badass. Glad it's not just a Miseducation re-hash. Makes me actually anticipate future work from her.
― Evan R, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:06 (1 month ago) Permalink
goin to jail
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:22 (1 month ago) Permalink
never a fan of the Fugees and only marginally interested in her and yes I know she's said a lot of weird shit in public but any time people complain about her being lazy or undisciplined or whatever I just think that I don't know ANY women from my generation raising 5 children, that shit is no joke.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:27 (1 month ago) Permalink
otm
― deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:29 (1 month ago) Permalink
the second part
for real. One is hard as fuck, and my friends are always like "ONE?! Holy shit you should try TWO!!!"
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:33 (1 month ago) Permalink
most female celebrities of her stature have one or two (and then hire a staff to raise them) - giving her the benefit of the doubt that she's tried to be more hands-on and putting their needs first like she says, five is a huuuuge amount of work and putting that on top of all her other baggage (being an aging black woman with a huge rep to live up to etc) its no wonder she might come off a bit unhinged
altho tbf when it comes to the taxes thing, eh I got nothing. hire an accountant already.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:36 (1 month ago) Permalink
During a forceful statement to the judge, Hill explained she had always meant to eventually pay the taxes but was unable to during a period of time when she dropped out of the music business.
oh for fuck's sake
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
The thing about this that is super stupid is that if you contact the IRS and ask for help in figuring out how to pay a tax bill, they will totally work with you to figure out some payment schedule that is reasonable. Her bill was pretty fucking huge but that's money that the IRS wants and they will figure out how to work with you to get it.
I mean, pro-tip #1 for cheap Ivy ppl is "don't treat your taxes like your student loans; that shit won't get swept under the rug after 7 years" (hell at this point I don't even know if ppl are still doing that with student loans)
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:23 (1 month ago) Permalink
you don't get returns if you don't file taxes one calendar year, right?
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:29 (1 month ago) Permalink
I don't see how you could, it's not like they are magic
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:35 (1 month ago) Permalink
in the early 2000's I owed money cuz I didn't file the right form to take care of my freelance dough, and, yes, the IRS were quite friendly and helped set up a reasonable monthly payment plan.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:40 (1 month ago) Permalink
It just cracks me up because I had been hearing all of this "THE IRS IS EVIL" rhetoric for years and years and years and then after a big jump in income I had a tax bill that I couldn't just write a check for at the time of filing, but I knew I'd be able to pay within the next 3 months, so I called their hotline and they were like "oh hey no biggie, here let us help you" and I sat there thinking to myself "have any of these IRS haters ever actually bothered to talk to them, or did they just try to duck out on their taxes due to Principles and then decided to get huffy when the government reminded them of one of the costs of citizenship"
― far too much asshole flesh (DJP), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:44 (1 month ago) Permalink
the stupidity starts with lauryn hill not having an accountant. working models with a part-time table waiting job often need an accountant.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:45 (1 month ago) Permalink
i mean 5 kids and royalty statements from platinum albums? anyone trying to apply their turbotax experience with that shouldn't be
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:47 (1 month ago) Permalink
if there's anything everyone should take away from this - it's a) always file, always report income. not reporting income is a felony. and b) if you aren't sure you're reporting income, hire an accountant.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:49 (1 month ago) Permalink
i worked for a tax preparer this year and there who claimed insane expenses on his 2004-2006 taxes, got audited, ignored the audit for FIVE YEARS and then decided to finally get around to clearing things up with the IRS. He won't go to jail because while he filed a ridiculous handwritten return, he filed. They will hound him to his dying day for every dollar, adding penalties all the while, but you really only go to jail if you didn't admit to income in the first place.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:54 (1 month ago) Permalink
and there was a guy who claimed
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
apparently you won't face criminal charges after six years, but will face civil penalties
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:59 (1 month ago) Permalink
generally they have little desire to put people in jail, since it's hard for you to make the money to pay them from there. but millionaires who ignore the IRS entirely for several years are made an example of.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:02 (1 month ago) Permalink
― da croupier, Tuesday, May 7, 2013 10:49 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
do we really think this was just incompetence on hill's part or, like, maybe she didn't want to pay taxes like the little people sort of thing..
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:09 (1 month ago) Permalink
i don't really think "i don't want to pay taxes, i'm special!" or "oh wow, i didn't realize what i was doing" is a binary here. most of the time when high profile people get nabbed for this they were getting horrifically bad advice, like wesley snipes, whose advisors were given even bigger sentences than he was. But it seems like she just went off the grid in a way you just can't when you have that much coming in residuals.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:13 (1 month ago) Permalink
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/lauryn_hill_court_tax_evasion.html
The judge credited Hill for living an exemplary life in the years before her failure to file taxes and noted several times that Hill had no prior criminal record.
She also said admiringly that Hill had carved out a career of "outstanding and unparalleled accomplishments in the arts," called her "inspirational" and noted, "Her solo album is considered one of the most important in the history of women’s recordings."
But Arleo also pointed out that Hill, who had attended Columbia University, was an intelligent woman who knew her taxes were due.
While "it is … not lost on me that all state and federal taxes were paid" by Hill over the weekend, the judge said, it is "inexplicable to me why they were not paid" before, given Hill’s assets, including several homes in South Orange.
The fact that Hill may have gone "underground" to escape society or the recording industry, Arleo concluded, "doesn’t explain or justify her failure to file tax returns."
"They can be done quietly and underground," the judge said.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:16 (1 month ago) Permalink
Ready or not, here we come, you can't hide... gonna fiiiiiiind you, and get OUR mon-ey!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:49 (1 month ago) Permalink
hill said during the sentencing that she is giving voice to the powerless and thus was being silenced. considering that she hasn't actually had much to say (or sing) in public for a long time, what "voice" is she giving to anyone? not to mention that everything she said was a red herring and most of it was just batshit. i'm not convinced she's capital-C crazy; she just seems to default to blaming everything but herself in any situation.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 05:28 (1 month ago) Permalink
i'm pretty curious whether she dropped the people previously handling her money or if they dropped her
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:12 (1 month ago) Permalink
funny that during the three year period she wanted to "defer" paying taxes to protect her family from the industry, she somehow managed to sing a new song over the closing credits of an animated movie
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:21 (1 month ago) Permalink
parsing her tumblr statement, posted back when she plead guilty last year, it sounds like she decided she was going to ignore her taxes until she figured out how to work outside the record company system.
http://mslaurynhill.tumblr.com/post/24689947994/it-was-reported-yesterday-that-ms-lauryn-hill-has
Learning from the past, insulating friends and family from the influence of external manipulation and corruption, is far more important to me than being misunderstood for a season! I did not deliberately abandon my fans, nor did I deliberately abandon any responsibilities, but I did however put my safety, health and freedom and the freedom, safety and health of my family first over all other material concerns! I also embraced my right to resist a system intentionally opposing my right to whole and integral survival.
I conveyed all of this when questioned as to why I did not file taxes during this time period. Obviously, the danger I faced was not accepted as reasonable grounds for deferring my tax payments, as authorities, who despite being told all of this, still chose to pursue action against me, as opposed to finding an alternative solution.
My intention has always been to get this situation rectified. When I was working consistently without being affected by the interferences mentioned above, I filed and paid my taxes. This only stopped when it was necessary to withdraw from society, in order to guarantee the safety and well-being of myself and my family.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:34 (1 month ago) Permalink
ignoring the whole "state of mind" thing, there are lots of people in various walks of life who think "hey i'm just not going to file for a year or two until i get my shit together, hopefully no one will notice."
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:37 (1 month ago) Permalink
granted most of them don't say that while hundreds of thousands of dollars in residuals and royalties are coming in, and they're singing over footage of CGI penguins.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:41 (1 month ago) Permalink
she deserves a "B" at obfuscatory bullshit at best
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 06:46 (1 month ago) Permalink