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When did Billy Corgan turn into Raffi?

Someone let me know.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

2001, as evidenced by the below news story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/sns-bozo-withcorgan-jpg,1,12993.photo?coll=chi-nonmmxent-utl

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wow, At least I know now.

Thanks John Justen. You are truely one of God's Great Warriors.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

He works through me...I am merely his snarky, ill-tempered servant.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

Best sentence about Billy Corgan ever follows in 3...2...1....

""May God bless and keep you always/ May your wishes all come true/ May you always do for others/ And let others do for you," Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

From our friends at MTV. Full article:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444464/20010613/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

man, you kids are so jaded. so what if he likes Bozo the Clown? didn't you watch Powerangers or something?

shookout (shookout), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

I didn't watch Power Rangers. I watched Freakazoid and Angry Beavers

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

I repeat:

", Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

How can you not feel the love for this sentence-fragment? Embrace it, make it your own...

I'm a Speedbuggy man myself.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm not jaded, shookout. I'm bitter that I never got a chance to share smiles with Wizzo the Wizard. In a purely platonic sense, of course...

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

So uh, what do people think of his new album?

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

I really don't like it, But my Brother (That One Guy) loves it.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Bozo the Clown has a new album out?

I really have to start to pay more attention to the new release charts...

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 4 June 2005 03:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh it won't be on the charts! :D

Anyway, as a long time Smashing Pumpkins/Corgan fan who tries not to let sucha fact cloud his judgement, I have to say that this album is thoroughly a hit and miss affair. It has IMO one really great song (The Camera Eye), four or five solid songs, with the rest being a mix of below average or absolutely atrocious. Right now I'd give it around a 6 or 7 out of 10, which may move up or down once I've given it more of a listen.

Anyway, it at least gives me hope that his next solo album could be great...actually ffs, REUNITE THE PUMPKINS, SLUT!!!

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 04:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

I gave it a 2 out of 10.

The lowest rating I did so far.

I like Billy Baby but he's not good anymore. You feel me?

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

I saw a ridic pink racing car with two (2!) spoilers (one on top of the other), with a glittery SP heart logo on every window. On the back window, in old English lettering, it said "LADY CORGAN."

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sounds about right.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh man, really? How so? I thought it was an unusual collision of worlds, but maybe I am not up on his fanbase.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's the goth thing from what I can tell.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 22:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, was it Tila Tequila?

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

hahaha jaymc

It looked like a chola car, Ned, not a gothics thing.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not that there isn't overlap, I guess. (I think the two combined use 70% of the nation's eyeliner.)

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Based on his various appearances at the Sky Saxon tribute show last night:

1) his Little Rascals/Jughead fashion sense is one of the smarter choices he's made (or is that Huntz Hall he's inspired by?)

2) did a lot of different things with ease -- led the Spirits in the Sky pickup group through three songs (full set on YouTube), appeared for a guitar solo on one Electric Prunes number, joined Djin Aquarian of YaHoWha13 to play bass and sung lead on "Can't Seem To Make You Mine" at the end of the night.

3) provided further evidence for my theory that's actually happiest on stage (and probably in general) when he's not struggling with his own expectations and/or ego. The three happiest and most relaxed times I've seen him perform were 2000 (earlier that day he announced the band's breakup and probably just felt he could take it easy), 2001 (the second Zwan show, just after the first and therefore beyond those expectations) and last night, where he was a featured performer but not the center of attention. So last night was a lot of humor, gawkiness, shy smiles, etc.

And the new song that he debuted with the Spirits in the Sky was pretty good!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

not bad for a dead man

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it was a clone.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

dudes!
billy corgan: puppeteer

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Somehow not surprising.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can someone photoshop this into Being Billy Corgan?

StanM, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

that pic looks like this cover by german band

jaxon, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

The "I Think That I'm In Love with You" v.s. "Disarm" mash-up should be made any day now to celebrate this absurd pair.

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

ok that close up of corgan's face made me lol. "WHAT HAVE I DONE."

tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

"he's too old for her

looks more like he's stalking her than dating her"

lolol

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

he looks more like billy drago with each passing year

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

krampus activities (latebloomer), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

lol

The new Pumpkins song is actually not surprisingly not horrible. The drumming sucks, but thats to be expected when you replace Jimmy Chamberlain with a 19 year old. I really dig the guitar solo. So much better than the Zeitgeist stuff.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

The Grunge Book? Photo of 'ol SP? HORRIBLE. You'd think we were unattractive trolls...coming off digging for truffles in shit.
about 3 hours ago via txt

Billy
Billy Corgan

markers, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

confirming, in case there was any doubt, that it was NOT a stage move.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow there is a decent chunk of crazy there

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jaymc won $5800 on day 1! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

My parents (74 years old) live in northern CA, and my dad was ranting about this temp-control thing in their house.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

sorta wish that shit were true

iatee, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

ah crap i didnt see that somebody bumped a smashing pumpkins thread about this already

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

S'ok. But yeah, Corgan is an utter asshole, proven more and more every day.

Tempted to start a taking sides thread, T/S Billy Corgan vs. Morrissey: which is pissing away goodwill with his own fans faster?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 26 August 2011 23:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah the funny thing is i have known a lot of people that have dealt with devi over the years, and she is kind of notoriously honest and nice for the boutique pedal world - so this is particularly offensive imo.

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

A couple of days and a harrowing plane flight later, the band makes it to a resort town called Surfer’s Paradise, which is more or less the Miami Beach of Australia, a skinny coastal town about an hour south of Brisbane, pounded by waves and plagued with jellyfish, crowded with high-rise hotels popular with Japanese honeymooners. Surfer’s Paradise is the jumping-off point for the Big Day Out tour, a sort of Australian Lollapalooza that Soundgarden will headline this year. In the lobby bar of one of the tallest hotels, Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita. Corgan chatters about the pain of his life, the supposed incompetence of his band (everybody rolls their eyes), the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy, bands that suck. Cornell gets up to leave. Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden’s “Outshined” that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

“I’m thinking of making my next album really new wave,” Corgan says, “like ’83-’84 new wave, not like Berlin. I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I’m going to go back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen.”

This is standard stuff to anybody who has read even a single Billy Corgan profile, the basic curriculum of Pumpkins 101. But Thayil isn’t buying. He’s sore.

“Don’t you see,” Thayil says, “you’re this incredibly talented guy. People like your music. You have a good band. You sell a lot of records. You don’t need all this…stuff.”

“What sign are you?” Corgan asks.

“What do you mean, what sign am I?” Thayil says. “What difference could that possibly make?”

“C’mon,” wheedles Corgan, “when is your birthday?”

“All right, goddamn it: September 4th.”

“Aha!” Corgan says. “A Virgo. You’re argumentative.”

“Damn right, I’m argumentative,” Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, “which you should know because I’ve been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign.”

“I’m a Pisces,” Corgan replies. “We pick up on those things.”

A minute later, Corgan, still probing, finally finds the key to Thayil’s heart: “I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back.”

Thayil explodes: “What do you mean? You write all the songs, and you do all the interviews. You play the instruments on the album. You control the band to the extent that most people think of Smashing Pumpkins as the Billy Corgan Experience, and all you care about is some photograph?”

“But I hate it,” Corgan says, “it means they don’t think I’m the cute one.”

“Ooh,” Thayil says a little too loudly as Corgan walks away, “I’ll bet he’s going to call his therapist in Chicago, wake her up at four in the morning, and tell her about that big, mean bear who made fun of him.”

The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders’ dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.

“You hurt me deeply,” Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. “You hurt me deeply in my heart.” The Pumpkins go on to play the best set anybody has ever heard them play, their usual passiveness and precision overlaid with an unfamiliar scrim of anger that throws their music into brilliant relief.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 August 2011 01:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait i thought slash fic was supposed to end with corgan and thayil boning

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 August 2011 06:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Billy is fucked up and wrong here, obviously, but I could only make it about 3 minutes into Ever's response video. Sorry, that person is insufferable.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

& if kim didn't really feel like propping up one more rock dude's ego after being in the band dude world for so long could you blame her?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not blaming or indicting either of them, your analysis of where they came from and how they ended up backstage together is totally OTM

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

It's not that Billy's a square, it's that he's pretty unsympathetic. It's one thing to be a poseur, which is silly to begin with, but by many accounts he is also an asshole, which makes the former less forgivable. I'm not a fan of the band aside from a few songs, but he puts himself in a pretty untenable position by embracing Rush and Boston (or whatever) but also wanting to be cool, by being a shredder but also wanting to be part of the anti-shred crowd, by tipping his hat to the humility and humanity of Cheap Trick but also aiming for the otherworldly haze My Bloody Valentine. But really, he's just apparently not a very nice guy.

Granted, as a very long time fan of SY, I've always thought Kim and Thurston came off terribly as people in interviews, too. As bad as Corgan but for totally different reasons: snobby, arrogant, pretentious, no fun. But since they're "cool," fewer folks call them on it, especially with an easy target like BC walking around saying "pay attention to me!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 22:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

Tbf, Corgan actually teetered on the cusp of personal redemption for a bit. Maybe c. Adore, which was a pretty emotional, accessible album, when the band played that huge free show here for charity. (http://www.mtv.com/news/300010/pumpkins-to-play-huge-hometown-charity-show/). But since the band came back from the dead he's been pretty bitter, sour, as if he's not even trying to be liked anymore.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 22:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

kinda surprised tht Corgan was into SY at all tbh

― Simon H., Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:44 PM (Yesterday)

hard to imagine gish & siamese dream arising absent at least second-hand influence from the evol thru daydream run of sy albums

A Severus of Snapes (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 22:46 (5 months ago) Permalink

Really? I don't really hear any similarities, beyond the use of guitars.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 22:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

how exactly is billy an asshole?

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:00 (5 months ago) Permalink

Basically - ironically? - by many accounts doing a lot of what he complains about in the Kim tirade: ignoring people, blowing people off, being unfriendly, being rude, abandoning old friends, etc. That might be general default celebrity behavior, but Chicago doesn't usually react well to that kind of stuff.

Maybe he's a sweetheart, but that does not seem to be the take of people I know who have had dealings/run-ins with him, or the times I've personally seen him be a diva.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

iirc once heard a story from a guy who got to hear billy have a phone conversation with his girlfriend after a concert in Dayton circa Gish, promising he was going fuck someone that night.

da croupier, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

i don't think there's anything unsympathetic about wanting all of those things, and i think he made a convincing case through his music.

the idea that you can't be cool if
-you like a certain band
-you play guitar solos and are obsessed with technical proficiency
-you make music inspired by dozens and dozens of disparate bands and sounds and styles
is bullshit.

but Billy is a huge asshole. smashing pumpkins fans have their reasons why, people that hate Corgan usually have others.

the smashing pumpkins died in 2000. he's been a solo act ever since, no matter the moniker at the time. he's clearly not that happy with how things turned out. his bitterness and delusional/nonsensical comments in interviews is just really sad to me. he knows, or thinks, his best days are behind him. but still i think he'll have a Dylan-esque renaissance as he goes through his fifties and sixties.

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:29 (5 months ago) Permalink

actually the anecdote was told in dayton but i dunno if the concert was there xpost

da croupier, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:30 (5 months ago) Permalink

the whole band is a morality play. the smashing pumpkins are an avant garde art rock band and billy corgan is a performance artist. his attitudes and behavior towards women are indefensible. part of the pleasure of being an SP fan is learning from where he got it wrong and where it got it right, in all aspects, from love to indie rock politics.

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

If Kim comes off as too cool or unfriendly I also think it's worth considering how many weird band dudes, creeps, asshole guys she probably had to deal with living in the rock world.

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:13 (5 months ago) Permalink

Think of how many contemptuous stray kittens Billy has had to deal with

It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

Will I!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 5 February 2015 02:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

I'm not a fan of the band aside from a few songs, but he puts himself in a pretty untenable position by embracing Rush and Boston (or whatever)

^I'd rather listen to Rush and Boston than anything by Sonic Youth or any of the "cool" bands you're supposed to like. Ive never understood why liking these bands is "untenable"

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:04 (5 months ago) Permalink

as you demonstrate, claiming allegiance to both Rush/Boston AND noiserock Sonic Youth dudes = not something that really comes off as genuine. opposing aesthetics.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:05 (5 months ago) Permalink

that's why it's untenable

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:05 (5 months ago) Permalink

lol at the concept of opposing aesthetics generally - aesthetics aren't really ideologies. it's perfectly possible, and in fact very common, to genuinely love both Boston and Sonic Youth, or Rush and the Shaggs, and all manner of music coming from disparate places. the idea of having an aesthetic that makes it "inconsistent" or "untenable" to like one kind of music while also liking another kind of music that proceeds from a different set of assumptions than the first...that's greasy kids' stuff, music is vast and most musicians I know think of it as a giant well of pleasure, not Jets and Sharks

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:19 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah but this was the 90s, there was a war on

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

(altho I don't think I actually know anybody who likes Rush and the Shaggs tbh - unless that's you)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

I mean I agree w you Ray, but lots of people don't listen to music that way and do draw battle lines between aesthetics. It may be stupid, but people do it (Kim Gordon acknowledges as much in her quote). Granted this is less common with musicians.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Maybe BC is the real elitist here thinking listening to Rush/Boston is some kind of maverick thing to do.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:35 (5 months ago) Permalink

Isn't she just using "in no way punk rock" as a synonym for corny here? I mean, maybe Kim Gordon really was viewing the world through a Maximum RocknRoll purity lens at the age of 40, but my guess is that it was more about "This guy is way too thirsty for the validation of rock fame" than "He likes Rush and Boston"

intheblanks, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

Also UMS totally otm in multiple posts. xp

intheblanks, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:40 (5 months ago) Permalink

"ok kim, billy may be a star tantrum-prone asshole, but where do you get off using punk rock as a shorthand for cool?"

da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

all billy ever wanted to do is make great music for everyone and challenge the hipster paradigm...

da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

heard the pumpkins' "landslide" on the radio and i'd like to reaffirm that billy has done REALLY WELL for himself considering he sings like jon lovitz as harvey feinstein doing "love to love you baby"

da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

fierstein, rather

da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

Billy Corgan = Bill Clinton
Sonic Youth = Mitt Romney

Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

Poliopolice = Maureen Dowd

da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

I like both Boston & Sonic Youth, Rush suck hard though

example (crüt), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:20 (5 months ago) Permalink

elephant in the room re: Boston & Sonic Youth

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

(and Kim and Billco too)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

I didn't mean to disparage Rush (though fuck Boston). I meant that Corgan used to embrace these supposedly uncool bands, because to hell with what's fashionable, man! But at the same he so clearly, vocally wanted to be fashionable. Like, he could hang with Rick Nielsen at will, but his eye was on Sonic Youth, or Pavement, or all these people at the cool party he wasn't invited to. Very insecure.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Boston is so much better than Rush. Sheesh!

how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

^ Said nobody, ever.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:30 (5 months ago) Permalink

And by "Boston" I assume you mean their first album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:31 (5 months ago) Permalink

The gauntlet has been thrown!

Boston vs. Rush

how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:31 (5 months ago) Permalink

he's just a teenager in love

nauru, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

if you are puzzled why kims thayil or gordon might have had problems with billy corgan then you really should meet the man. it's not because he loves uncool records. it's about personality and behaviour.

also, smashing pumpkins' best song, drown, always sounded to me like a Boston song segueing into a Sonic Youth song. i remember him almost playing drown at brixton academy in 1993, but he stopped after strumming the opening riff because the uk music press had been horrible to him that week and he said london didn't deserve it. then he came on dressed as a clown for the encore because everett true had called him a clown in a review.

again, it's about personality and behaviour.

#Research (stevie), Friday, 6 February 2015 09:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

Whereas, he seemd to take a holiday from himself when he was in New Order.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 12:11 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

wait, is billy the surprise for three lucky winners? they'll need a big fuckin box to fit him in

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

hahahaha came here to post that pic

global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 May 2015 14:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

The "surprise" is a tantrum from Billy, btw.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

A wrestling match in a steel cage (despite all his rage).

nashwan, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought this was gonna be about Fruity

http://loudwire.com/marilyn-manson-billy-corgan-band-flavor-flav-jenna-jameson/

cause baby, now we got dad bod (how's life), Friday, 22 May 2015 15:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

small-batch foods

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 May 2015 15:18 (1 month ago) Permalink


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