Billy Corgan

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
When did Billy Corgan turn into Raffi?

Someone let me know.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

2001, as evidenced by the below news story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/sns-bozo-withcorgan-jpg,1,12993.photo?coll=chi-nonmmxent-utl

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wow, At least I know now.

Thanks John Justen. You are truely one of God's Great Warriors.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

He works through me...I am merely his snarky, ill-tempered servant.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Best sentence about Billy Corgan ever follows in 3...2...1....

""May God bless and keep you always/ May your wishes all come true/ May you always do for others/ And let others do for you," Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

From our friends at MTV. Full article:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444464/20010613/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

man, you kids are so jaded. so what if he likes Bozo the Clown? didn't you watch Powerangers or something?

shookout (shookout), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

I didn't watch Power Rangers. I watched Freakazoid and Angry Beavers

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

I repeat:

", Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

How can you not feel the love for this sentence-fragment? Embrace it, make it your own...

I'm a Speedbuggy man myself.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm not jaded, shookout. I'm bitter that I never got a chance to share smiles with Wizzo the Wizard. In a purely platonic sense, of course...

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

So uh, what do people think of his new album?

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I really don't like it, But my Brother (That One Guy) loves it.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Bozo the Clown has a new album out?

I really have to start to pay more attention to the new release charts...

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 4 June 2005 03:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh it won't be on the charts! :D

Anyway, as a long time Smashing Pumpkins/Corgan fan who tries not to let sucha fact cloud his judgement, I have to say that this album is thoroughly a hit and miss affair. It has IMO one really great song (The Camera Eye), four or five solid songs, with the rest being a mix of below average or absolutely atrocious. Right now I'd give it around a 6 or 7 out of 10, which may move up or down once I've given it more of a listen.

Anyway, it at least gives me hope that his next solo album could be great...actually ffs, REUNITE THE PUMPKINS, SLUT!!!

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 04:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

I gave it a 2 out of 10.

The lowest rating I did so far.

I like Billy Baby but he's not good anymore. You feel me?

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

I saw a ridic pink racing car with two (2!) spoilers (one on top of the other), with a glittery SP heart logo on every window. On the back window, in old English lettering, it said "LADY CORGAN."

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Sounds about right.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh man, really? How so? I thought it was an unusual collision of worlds, but maybe I am not up on his fanbase.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's the goth thing from what I can tell.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 22:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Wait, was it Tila Tequila?

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

hahaha jaymc

It looked like a chola car, Ned, not a gothics thing.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not that there isn't overlap, I guess. (I think the two combined use 70% of the nation's eyeliner.)

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Based on his various appearances at the Sky Saxon tribute show last night:

1) his Little Rascals/Jughead fashion sense is one of the smarter choices he's made (or is that Huntz Hall he's inspired by?)

2) did a lot of different things with ease -- led the Spirits in the Sky pickup group through three songs (full set on YouTube), appeared for a guitar solo on one Electric Prunes number, joined Djin Aquarian of YaHoWha13 to play bass and sung lead on "Can't Seem To Make You Mine" at the end of the night.

3) provided further evidence for my theory that's actually happiest on stage (and probably in general) when he's not struggling with his own expectations and/or ego. The three happiest and most relaxed times I've seen him perform were 2000 (earlier that day he announced the band's breakup and probably just felt he could take it easy), 2001 (the second Zwan show, just after the first and therefore beyond those expectations) and last night, where he was a featured performer but not the center of attention. So last night was a lot of humor, gawkiness, shy smiles, etc.

And the new song that he debuted with the Spirits in the Sky was pretty good!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

not bad for a dead man

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it was a clone.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

dudes!
billy corgan: puppeteer

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Somehow not surprising.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Can someone photoshop this into Being Billy Corgan?

StanM, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

that pic looks like this cover by german band

jaxon, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

The "I Think That I'm In Love with You" v.s. "Disarm" mash-up should be made any day now to celebrate this absurd pair.

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok that close up of corgan's face made me lol. "WHAT HAVE I DONE."

tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

"he's too old for her

looks more like he's stalking her than dating her"

lolol

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

he looks more like billy drago with each passing year

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

krampus activities (latebloomer), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol

The new Pumpkins song is actually not surprisingly not horrible. The drumming sucks, but thats to be expected when you replace Jimmy Chamberlain with a 19 year old. I really dig the guitar solo. So much better than the Zeitgeist stuff.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

The Grunge Book? Photo of 'ol SP? HORRIBLE. You'd think we were unattractive trolls...coming off digging for truffles in shit.
about 3 hours ago via txt

Billy
Billy Corgan

markers, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

confirming, in case there was any doubt, that it was NOT a stage move.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow there is a decent chunk of crazy there

# Soon the governments in western nations will be changing the temperatures in your home over-riding your control, all in the name of green BS 7:47 AM Jul 24th via txt

# Don't believe me? Look up 'smart grid technology'. All new control boxes will have wireless technology by law. Why?Because U use 2 much NRG! 7:49 AM Jul 24th via txt

jaymc won $5800 on day 1! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

My parents (74 years old) live in northern CA, and my dad was ranting about this temp-control thing in their house.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

sorta wish that shit were true

iatee, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

ah crap i didnt see that somebody bumped a smashing pumpkins thread about this already

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

S'ok. But yeah, Corgan is an utter asshole, proven more and more every day.

Tempted to start a taking sides thread, T/S Billy Corgan vs. Morrissey: which is pissing away goodwill with his own fans faster?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 26 August 2011 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah the funny thing is i have known a lot of people that have dealt with devi over the years, and she is kind of notoriously honest and nice for the boutique pedal world - so this is particularly offensive imo.

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

A couple of days and a harrowing plane flight later, the band makes it to a resort town called Surfer’s Paradise, which is more or less the Miami Beach of Australia, a skinny coastal town about an hour south of Brisbane, pounded by waves and plagued with jellyfish, crowded with high-rise hotels popular with Japanese honeymooners. Surfer’s Paradise is the jumping-off point for the Big Day Out tour, a sort of Australian Lollapalooza that Soundgarden will headline this year. In the lobby bar of one of the tallest hotels, Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita. Corgan chatters about the pain of his life, the supposed incompetence of his band (everybody rolls their eyes), the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy, bands that suck. Cornell gets up to leave. Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden’s “Outshined” that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

“I’m thinking of making my next album really new wave,” Corgan says, “like ’83-’84 new wave, not like Berlin. I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I’m going to go back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen.”

This is standard stuff to anybody who has read even a single Billy Corgan profile, the basic curriculum of Pumpkins 101. But Thayil isn’t buying. He’s sore.

“Don’t you see,” Thayil says, “you’re this incredibly talented guy. People like your music. You have a good band. You sell a lot of records. You don’t need all this…stuff.”

“What sign are you?” Corgan asks.

“What do you mean, what sign am I?” Thayil says. “What difference could that possibly make?”

“C’mon,” wheedles Corgan, “when is your birthday?”

“All right, goddamn it: September 4th.”

“Aha!” Corgan says. “A Virgo. You’re argumentative.”

“Damn right, I’m argumentative,” Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, “which you should know because I’ve been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign.”

“I’m a Pisces,” Corgan replies. “We pick up on those things.”

A minute later, Corgan, still probing, finally finds the key to Thayil’s heart: “I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back.”

Thayil explodes: “What do you mean? You write all the songs, and you do all the interviews. You play the instruments on the album. You control the band to the extent that most people think of Smashing Pumpkins as the Billy Corgan Experience, and all you care about is some photograph?”

“But I hate it,” Corgan says, “it means they don’t think I’m the cute one.”

“Ooh,” Thayil says a little too loudly as Corgan walks away, “I’ll bet he’s going to call his therapist in Chicago, wake her up at four in the morning, and tell her about that big, mean bear who made fun of him.”

The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders’ dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.

“You hurt me deeply,” Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. “You hurt me deeply in my heart.” The Pumpkins go on to play the best set anybody has ever heard them play, their usual passiveness and precision overlaid with an unfamiliar scrim of anger that throws their music into brilliant relief.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 August 2011 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait i thought slash fic was supposed to end with corgan and thayil boning

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 August 2011 06:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Billy is fucked up and wrong here, obviously, but I could only make it about 3 minutes into Ever's response video. Sorry, that person is insufferable.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

what size venues does mgmt usually play to begin with though?

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

in the future? it's already like that

Man, Yauch and the major labels all on the same day...

You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can't remember the last serious 'sophomore slump' in rock/alternative circles where the act really seemed to lose half their audience or whatever.

that's because bands and albums are not the currency of relevancy anymore; it's songs. And as long as those songs are in circulation (ipods, video games, commercials, etc.) they have currency. there are more venues for songs to be in circulation now than ever before, and the more share they have of these venues, the more currency they have. bands per se are almost irrelevant.

Poliopolice, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's an interesting point.

One band that kind of sprung to mind while I was listening to Corgan talk about social media and the net not panning out so well for artists was Ok Go -- a band that I don't particularly like, but that seems to be able to keep making money from a brand built not, I don't think, on albums at all, but on a stream of clever individual videos and clever live shows that dovetail with the videos. And people will keep going to see that band, at least for a while, because it's kind of more like going to see Blue Man Group or Stomp! or something, although I don't doubt that their fans actually like their music too.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

And that band is a great example. I don't think anyone who watches those videos, whether it be fans or casual viewers, give a flying fuck who is in that band. Probably the entire band could be replaced and no one would care. They know the band as OK GO and that's about it. They're there for the spectacle and the entertainment, and if anyone's watching it, it's because at that particular moment, the spectacle is better than some other spectacle available at that moment.

Poliopolice, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

cannot think the words "the world is a vampire" unless recited in corgan's snarl. absolutely cannot.

kelpolaris, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you find yourself thinking those words in other contexts?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everytime I see Billy Corgan, I'm reminded of the video he did for his band Hexen, probably years before the Pumpkins. It's hard to hate him after that, even as pompous as he often comes across.

James Iha is still what made that band tick.

Matt M., Friday, 4 May 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

James Iha is still what made that band tick tolerable.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I said that as a guy who is most distinctly not a fan of the band.

Matt M., Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's because bands and albums are not the currency of relevancy anymore; it's songs. And as long as those songs are in circulation (ipods, video games, commercials, etc.) they have currency.

So it's like the 60's all over again, where a band could have one or two hit singles and tour the oldies circuit more or less indefinitely. If that's the case then I really don't have a problem with it, FWIW.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

recorded music is still absolutely monetizable but the money is, always has been, always will be in the carrier.

yo just a couple (Matt P), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

or controlling the carrier, more accurately.

yo just a couple (Matt P), Saturday, 5 May 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

i wholly & unironically support this

death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 21:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

very excited for a recording

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 21:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

Love the photo with this article:

In that Corgan has the dazed look of a man who doesn't realize that everyone else behind is not the original line-up, precisely because he doesn't remember driving them all away.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 21:55 (6 months ago) Permalink

haha, also i like how a pumpkins fan who checked out 20 years ago could see that photo and think "okay, yea, i don't remember the rest of the band looking like that but i guess they're the same members"

marcos, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 22:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

I won't be impressed until he submits a life-size sculpture of himself made out of butter for judging in the Iowa State Fair

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 00:57 (6 months ago) Permalink

Live Stream Billy Corgan's Eight-Hour Ambient Jam Inspired by Siddhartha:

Anyone else watching this and following Dan Lopatin's live tweets? I guess this is suddenly my Friday night...

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:10 (5 months ago) Permalink

Although I have to say that I'm not sure I'm going to last more than 10 minutes of this.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:11 (5 months ago) Permalink

i'm about an hour in. it's not terrible

chive on you crazy diamond (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 February 2014 20:14 (5 months ago) Permalink

The Siddhartha audio samples are pretty... literal, as interpretations go.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:21 (5 months ago) Permalink

yeah, the sections where he turns off the text are much much better

chive on you crazy diamond (diamonddave85), Friday, 28 February 2014 20:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

I know it's kind of a cheap shot, but Billy's gained some weight, right?

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

oneohtrix livetweeting https://twitter.com/0PN

Daniel Lopatin ‏@0PN 1m
"quietly dangling hand" its as if Hesse knew Corgan would one day patch that OSC!

ugh (lukas), Friday, 28 February 2014 20:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ergh, why did he go for the Australian audio book?

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:30 (5 months ago) Permalink

Beats.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

lopatin is killin' it

illegalblues, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:59 (5 months ago) Permalink

He decided to do something else for about an hour or so, but I'm back now.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 22:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

Errr... meant "I" was doing something else - although not sure I've missed anything either.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 22:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

Daniel Lopatin ‏@0PN 39s
corgan needs to do a hard restart

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 28 February 2014 22:17 (5 months ago) Permalink

lol, was just about to repost that.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 22:18 (5 months ago) Permalink

Is that it? Already? We were promised 8-9 hours.

MikoMcha, Friday, 28 February 2014 22:31 (5 months ago) Permalink

just a break

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Friday, 28 February 2014 22:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

billik organ

eardrum buzz aldrin (NickB), Saturday, 1 March 2014 00:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

the vehicle is returned

You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

that was so bad i hate you billy

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

was? is. and always shall be

You cannot interrupt his tea stirring because it is his holy trick (imago), Saturday, 1 March 2014 02:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

Just awful, I want my bandwidth back.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 1 March 2014 10:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

I can't understand how ANYONE would even be diverted for a minute for anything to do with this bell-end anyway!

xelab, Saturday, 1 March 2014 10:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

lopatin is killin' it

― illegalblues, Friday, February 28, 2014 9:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that was great. he seems pretty ilxy

imago bantz and the deems context (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 1 March 2014 11:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

was lopatin telling the truth when he said the whole thing went under an hour

please say yes

joe perry has been dead for years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 1 March 2014 13:00 (5 months ago) Permalink

naw

death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Saturday, 1 March 2014 13:18 (5 months ago) Permalink

it was shit. i hate myself for watching all nine hours but i was sick in bed and its awfulness was distracting

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

I like the guy's tea shop, though.

That's So (Eazy), Sunday, 2 March 2014 00:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

he sucked as soon as he cut his hair

bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 2 March 2014 06:55 (5 months ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.