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When did Billy Corgan turn into Raffi?

Someone let me know.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

2001, as evidenced by the below news story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/sns-bozo-withcorgan-jpg,1,12993.photo?coll=chi-nonmmxent-utl

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Wow, At least I know now.

Thanks John Justen. You are truely one of God's Great Warriors.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:43 (eleven years ago) Permalink

He works through me...I am merely his snarky, ill-tempered servant.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Best sentence about Billy Corgan ever follows in 3...2...1....

""May God bless and keep you always/ May your wishes all come true/ May you always do for others/ And let others do for you," Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

From our friends at MTV. Full article:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1444464/20010613/smashing_pumpkins.jhtml

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 01:54 (eleven years ago) Permalink

man, you kids are so jaded. so what if he likes Bozo the Clown? didn't you watch Powerangers or something?

shookout (shookout), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I didn't watch Power Rangers. I watched Freakazoid and Angry Beavers

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Friday, 3 June 2005 02:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I repeat:

", Corgan sang as he glanced around the studio, eyeing the colorful props and sharing smiles with Wizzo the Wizard."

How can you not feel the love for this sentence-fragment? Embrace it, make it your own...

I'm a Speedbuggy man myself.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm not jaded, shookout. I'm bitter that I never got a chance to share smiles with Wizzo the Wizard. In a purely platonic sense, of course...

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 3 June 2005 06:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So uh, what do people think of his new album?

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I really don't like it, But my Brother (That One Guy) loves it.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Bozo the Clown has a new album out?

I really have to start to pay more attention to the new release charts...

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 4 June 2005 03:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Oh it won't be on the charts! :D

Anyway, as a long time Smashing Pumpkins/Corgan fan who tries not to let sucha fact cloud his judgement, I have to say that this album is thoroughly a hit and miss affair. It has IMO one really great song (The Camera Eye), four or five solid songs, with the rest being a mix of below average or absolutely atrocious. Right now I'd give it around a 6 or 7 out of 10, which may move up or down once I've given it more of a listen.

Anyway, it at least gives me hope that his next solo album could be great...actually ffs, REUNITE THE PUMPKINS, SLUT!!!

Narayan, Saturday, 4 June 2005 04:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I gave it a 2 out of 10.

The lowest rating I did so far.

I like Billy Baby but he's not good anymore. You feel me?

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

I saw a ridic pink racing car with two (2!) spoilers (one on top of the other), with a glittery SP heart logo on every window. On the back window, in old English lettering, it said "LADY CORGAN."

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds about right.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 21:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh man, really? How so? I thought it was an unusual collision of worlds, but maybe I am not up on his fanbase.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 21:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's the goth thing from what I can tell.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 April 2009 22:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wait, was it Tila Tequila?

Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaha jaymc

It looked like a chola car, Ned, not a gothics thing.

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Not that there isn't overlap, I guess. (I think the two combined use 70% of the nation's eyeliner.)

fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Monday, 13 April 2009 22:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Based on his various appearances at the Sky Saxon tribute show last night:

1) his Little Rascals/Jughead fashion sense is one of the smarter choices he's made (or is that Huntz Hall he's inspired by?)

2) did a lot of different things with ease -- led the Spirits in the Sky pickup group through three songs (full set on YouTube), appeared for a guitar solo on one Electric Prunes number, joined Djin Aquarian of YaHoWha13 to play bass and sung lead on "Can't Seem To Make You Mine" at the end of the night.

3) provided further evidence for my theory that's actually happiest on stage (and probably in general) when he's not struggling with his own expectations and/or ego. The three happiest and most relaxed times I've seen him perform were 2000 (earlier that day he announced the band's breakup and probably just felt he could take it easy), 2001 (the second Zwan show, just after the first and therefore beyond those expectations) and last night, where he was a featured performer but not the center of attention. So last night was a lot of humor, gawkiness, shy smiles, etc.

And the new song that he debuted with the Spirits in the Sky was pretty good!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

not bad for a dead man

velko, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe it was a clone.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 July 2009 21:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

dudes!
billy corgan: puppeteer

graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave architecture (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Somehow not surprising.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Can someone photoshop this into Being Billy Corgan?

StanM, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 21:35 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

that pic looks like this cover by german band

jaxon, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

The "I Think That I'm In Love with You" v.s. "Disarm" mash-up should be made any day now to celebrate this absurd pair.

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

ok that close up of corgan's face made me lol. "WHAT HAVE I DONE."

tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 18:39 (six years ago) Permalink

"he's too old for her

looks more like he's stalking her than dating her"

lolol

Cunga, Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:00 (six years ago) Permalink

he looks more like billy drago with each passing year

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:01 (six years ago) Permalink

krampus activities (latebloomer), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:15 (six years ago) Permalink

lol

The new Pumpkins song is actually not surprisingly not horrible. The drumming sucks, but thats to be expected when you replace Jimmy Chamberlain with a 19 year old. I really dig the guitar solo. So much better than the Zeitgeist stuff.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 December 2009 01:16 (six years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

The Grunge Book? Photo of 'ol SP? HORRIBLE. You'd think we were unattractive trolls...coming off digging for truffles in shit.
about 3 hours ago via txt

Billy
Billy Corgan

markers, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

confirming, in case there was any doubt, that it was NOT a stage move.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

wow there is a decent chunk of crazy there

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jaymc won $5800 on day 1! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

My parents (74 years old) live in northern CA, and my dad was ranting about this temp-control thing in their house.

gato busca pleitos (Eazy), Monday, 26 July 2010 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

sorta wish that shit were true

iatee, Monday, 26 July 2010 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

ah crap i didnt see that somebody bumped a smashing pumpkins thread about this already

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:43 (five years ago) Permalink

S'ok. But yeah, Corgan is an utter asshole, proven more and more every day.

Tempted to start a taking sides thread, T/S Billy Corgan vs. Morrissey: which is pissing away goodwill with his own fans faster?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 26 August 2011 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah the funny thing is i have known a lot of people that have dealt with devi over the years, and she is kind of notoriously honest and nice for the boutique pedal world - so this is particularly offensive imo.

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Friday, 26 August 2011 23:50 (five years ago) Permalink

A couple of days and a harrowing plane flight later, the band makes it to a resort town called Surfer’s Paradise, which is more or less the Miami Beach of Australia, a skinny coastal town about an hour south of Brisbane, pounded by waves and plagued with jellyfish, crowded with high-rise hotels popular with Japanese honeymooners. Surfer’s Paradise is the jumping-off point for the Big Day Out tour, a sort of Australian Lollapalooza that Soundgarden will headline this year. In the lobby bar of one of the tallest hotels, Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita. Corgan chatters about the pain of his life, the supposed incompetence of his band (everybody rolls their eyes), the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy, bands that suck. Cornell gets up to leave. Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden’s “Outshined” that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

“I’m thinking of making my next album really new wave,” Corgan says, “like ’83-’84 new wave, not like Berlin. I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I’m going to go back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen.”

This is standard stuff to anybody who has read even a single Billy Corgan profile, the basic curriculum of Pumpkins 101. But Thayil isn’t buying. He’s sore.

“Don’t you see,” Thayil says, “you’re this incredibly talented guy. People like your music. You have a good band. You sell a lot of records. You don’t need all this…stuff.”

“What sign are you?” Corgan asks.

“What do you mean, what sign am I?” Thayil says. “What difference could that possibly make?”

“C’mon,” wheedles Corgan, “when is your birthday?”

“All right, goddamn it: September 4th.”

“Aha!” Corgan says. “A Virgo. You’re argumentative.”

“Damn right, I’m argumentative,” Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, “which you should know because I’ve been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign.”

“I’m a Pisces,” Corgan replies. “We pick up on those things.”

A minute later, Corgan, still probing, finally finds the key to Thayil’s heart: “I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back.”

Thayil explodes: “What do you mean? You write all the songs, and you do all the interviews. You play the instruments on the album. You control the band to the extent that most people think of Smashing Pumpkins as the Billy Corgan Experience, and all you care about is some photograph?”

“But I hate it,” Corgan says, “it means they don’t think I’m the cute one.”

“Ooh,” Thayil says a little too loudly as Corgan walks away, “I’ll bet he’s going to call his therapist in Chicago, wake her up at four in the morning, and tell her about that big, mean bear who made fun of him.”

The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders’ dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.

“You hurt me deeply,” Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. “You hurt me deeply in my heart.” The Pumpkins go on to play the best set anybody has ever heard them play, their usual passiveness and precision overlaid with an unfamiliar scrim of anger that throws their music into brilliant relief.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 August 2011 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

wait i thought slash fic was supposed to end with corgan and thayil boning

dougie instructor (jjjusten), Saturday, 27 August 2011 06:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Billy is fucked up and wrong here, obviously, but I could only make it about 3 minutes into Ever's response video. Sorry, that person is insufferable.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 27 August 2011 12:52 (five years ago) Permalink

one weird trick to make billy corgan defensive

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:22 (one year ago) Permalink

weird tip, i am one

welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:26 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Augustus Juppiter Corgan

http://celebritybabies.people.com/2015/12/22/billy-corgan-welcomes-son-augustus-juppiter/

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

misspelling makes me furious.

goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Juppiter

miss me belial (crüt), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:55 (nine months ago) Permalink

no way

goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

"I found it in a mystic text!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:11 (nine months ago) Permalink

if he insists on pronouncing it YEU-pee-tehr i'll give him a pass

goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:17 (nine months ago) Permalink

giving ppl a hard time about what they name their kids is shitty

why do you people keep making me defend this insufferable dude

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:24 (nine months ago) Permalink

Celebrity baby gives birth to celebrity baby!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

Drops of Juppiter.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:26 (nine months ago) Permalink

giving ppl a hard time about what they name their kids is shitty

I mean yeah, if you were to go up to his face and be like 'hey, bill, you named your kid something stupid'

but just to generally lament the awful names people - who are strangers to you and who you will never meet - give their kids because they are clowns is really one of the least deleterious negative instincts one can have

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

i think it's a cool name. lots of nickname potential anyway. augie, jupe. i'm happy for bill :') i thought this ship had sailed

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

my main gripe with people with their "unique" or whimsical naming habits is that invariably their own boring names are better. like William Patrick is a much better pair of names than Augustus Juppiter

Karl Rove Knausgård (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

pronouncing it yuppitr makes it better

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

AJ Corgan

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

hoping they call him Jove for short

miss me belial (crüt), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

saddling your kids with a lifelong marker of your own profound selfishness is way way way worse than someone clowning you on ilxor.com

goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 20:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

i mean he can just go by AJ if it's such a big deal

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 20:45 (nine months ago) Permalink

Can all you turdwranglers just start your own program like The View? So embarrassing.

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 22:38 (nine months ago) Permalink

Gonna echo Flappy up thread - i'm just happy corgan gets to be a parent. it'll be good for him.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 03:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

welcome, Gus

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 04:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 December 2015 17:36 (nine months ago) Permalink

Corgan, 48, who is best known as the founder and frontman of the ’90s alternative rock band The Smashing Pumpkins, is also a poet.

i know i am going to regret this, but ... 'poet' ??

mark e, Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

"i am a published poette" - billy crogan

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

it's pretty good imo

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

2004 promo interview for BWF, really good: https://vimeo.com/58320287

flappy bird, Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:35 (nine months ago) Permalink

i did not know that.

mark e, Thursday, 24 December 2015 18:43 (nine months ago) Permalink

his poetry is awful

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 24 December 2015 19:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

his poetry is awful

― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, December 24, 2015 2:39 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do you like his lyrics? I think a lot of Blinking with Fists is as good or better than his lyrics on the first five records.

"A Twixt the Twine"

A twixt the twine and flowers divine
Devise the design in this copper wine
Aghast the mask of ripping change
A loft amongst the highest paid

blend in the softer hues
Bespeak of melon and her honey fuse
Light my ire's with playful trust
For devour you insatiable I mus
So mixed the mire the many did soar
Sour the supirn on slippery floor
Green the grievous poured wound into salt
Salacious and sated the savory sport

Don't get certain play trickw with mine pull
Gather your colours and ever your sulk
No manners in me matter the most
Than playing valor to your consummate host
Pillow the phenom on purring divan
Mellow the missing on vanilla white toast
Laboured among the living lull last
Repay the repast in revolting rake

Never come give it up, whatever you may squander
The figs in the pockets and the coursings down under
By blood are the passions passing us up
By pill the poison feeling
The heat it kills me everyday
By graveyard vigil and candles I bake
And kitchens are aching for archangel falls
Of soft baby bottoms and polished skulls, amen.

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

:\

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:01 (nine months ago) Permalink

do u like his lyrics though? jw

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

i mean i still love many of the lyrics on sd, mellon collie, adore, and machina, but who knows how much of that is just growing up with them

guy went for a more direct style around zwan/the poetry book and it's negatively affected his songwriting ever since imo. give me "in the slipstream of thoughtless thoughts" over that shit any day

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

he was also a formative influence on my own writing, let me tell you i loved the incoherent garbage "excerpt" from "glass and the machines of god" in the machina booklet. i also still sorta like it bc billy obv just liked the lamb lies down on broadway way too much, which same

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

I should say that "billy corgan was a formative influence on my writing" really just applies to me writing bad poetry at ages 12-14 but i'm probably compromised forever in ways i don't even recognize

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 December 2015 18:07 (nine months ago) Permalink

Less surprised by the total lack of surprises (stevie), Tuesday, 29 December 2015 11:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Cripes!

Todd Palin in snowmobile crash (I know it's serious) (stevie), Sunday, 27 March 2016 14:11 (six months ago) Permalink

anything is possible in this world

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 March 2016 15:10 (six months ago) Permalink

crying

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 March 2016 15:11 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I got choked up. Great to see...and a really nice version of "Mayonaise." Always loved James the best.

Sam Weller, Sunday, 27 March 2016 19:26 (six months ago) Permalink

i watched the status quo documentary last night on bbc4
(never been a fan, but got sucked into the story),
there is something special about bands who go through court cases,
media based slanging matches and then ..
after a few years (a very long time in the case of quo) grow the fuck up and realise that its time to acknowledge the good times and just get on with getting on.
hopefully this is the start of the same kind of process for billy and the others,
as i would suggest that this is a band that could still make good music together ...

mark e, Sunday, 27 March 2016 19:33 (six months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/v4RbFj9.gif?5952

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 March 2016 21:23 (six months ago) Permalink

That was great - the "Mayonaise" video

van smack, Sunday, 27 March 2016 23:07 (six months ago) Permalink

literally anything is possible

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 28 March 2016 05:02 (five months ago) Permalink

oh lol i see i echoed flappy bird there

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 28 March 2016 05:02 (five months ago) Permalink

It's good to see this happen, but I'd be far more impressed if I saw Billy and D'Arcy share a stage again.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Monday, 28 March 2016 15:00 (five months ago) Permalink

Sadly I think that's out of Bill's control...D'arcy hasn't played music since she left SP in 1999. Toward the end, she couldn't even remember the songs. She was totally fried on hard drugs and judging by recent pictures and that radio phone call in 2009, she's still drinking and using and basically out of commission...somehow, I'm friends with her on Facebook, and she's totally unrecognizable. The damage with James was entirely interpersonal, I don't think D'arcy could play with SP again even if she wanted to. Billy said a lot of awful shit about James since 2000, but he's never talked shit about D'arcy behind stating the obvious, "she has a lot of problems..."

flappy bird, Monday, 28 March 2016 17:24 (five months ago) Permalink

Yes. Hence why I would be impressed.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Monday, 28 March 2016 17:39 (five months ago) Permalink

Having 3/4 of the original lineup on good terms bodes well for a Hall of Fame nomination in the next few years.

flappy bird, Monday, 28 March 2016 23:53 (five months ago) Permalink


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