So that Velvet Underground acetate.

I believe the original owner responsible for it was John Cale, but I don't think it was his street sale.

(hopefully it's not like that first disc of the box set. no-one needs any more early versions of "all tomorrow's parties" ever again after that!)

He's in the background, plugging his ears.

thx!

[NB: I haven't got / heard it, so don't blame me if it turns out to be a typo of "Flaming"].

You're missing out, seriously. The first disc is awesome. The two previously unreleased songs, "Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams" and especially "Prominent Men", are really good songs. And the strange, English-ballad version of "Venus in Furs" is also excellent. But I think the absolute best thing on it is the country-fried version "Waiting for the Man" which is described by David Fricke in the liner notes as sounding like Hank Williams trying to score a fix.

Seriously, it's a great fucking disc, not just a novelty thing. I highly suggest that all VU fans check it out, because it's awesome.

(and I speak as one with that Stooges box)

Although the "THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT!!!" from a teenage lou is classic...

Maybe-- but again, it collects the whole tape. To condense it would have been to release a disc that was contoured as a rarities album rather than a historical document, which I'm not sure does service to showing the songs' evolutions. The 'voyeurism' element is crucial to the success of the disc as well, where you can hear Lou yelling "fucking shit!" when he messes up. Unedited, it is particularly raw and unadulterated. While this does make it a historical document, it happens to have excellent versions of these songs on it. I'm not complaining. It's easy enough to skip tracks, or burn a new disc excising unwanted material.

As if I missed my chance: Jim Carrol saying, "what is that? a tuinal? Oh my god, I've gotta hide - look who's over there."

It's annoying not to be able to find the most recent thread about this when it was offered on ebay. I think Scott Seward started the thread, but even adding his name to the search didn't help me. I sure would like to be able to find that thread.

Anyway, I actually got round to listening to this the other night and it kindof put me in a trance, without being on any substances. Especially the Heroin version. Cause it's like...you're so used to these songs being done ONE way, and then you hear very subtly that you're not hearing the same old thing and it's kindof wild sometimes.

I think that other thread was on the sandbox?

Yeah, I think it all happened during the sandbox days.

Oh so *that* explains it! Thanks! :)

relly good version fo sunday morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7x2LBDzlY

https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2022/11/09/warhol-museum-master-tracks-velvet-underground-debut/stories/202211090082

I saw that yesterday; it's pretty cool, but I'm unclear on the history of the masters for this album. These are mono masters, and seem to have some unreleased or unheard takes? Was there a stereo master for this album with the same material? Have there been any reissues of this album that claimed to be derived from the master tapes? Is this extra material really unheard?

I'm guessing the abysmal nerds of the Hoffman forums can answer this

aiui these are the Sceptre acetate recordings, but in master tape quality

not the ones in the link above: "The Andy Warhol Museum announced Wednesday that it had discovered and digitized rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s seminal 1967 debut album “The Velvet Underground & Nico” from Verve Records."

unless the reporting on this is a complete mess which I wouldn't be surprised to learn

it's the Scepter acetate — "Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy."

That said, some of the Scepter sessions on that 45th anniversary set are from a "tape source" so I don't know if this will be a marked improvement.