A Very Lonely and Sparsely-attended Thread Wherein We Discuss the 'Special Edition' re-releases by Gene Loves Jezebel

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It really is the re-release season, isn't it (Gang of Four, Siouxsie, the Cure and soon....Killing Joke and...er....Manowar). Tipped off by our own sage-like Ned, I picked up the 'special edtion' re-release of Discover and -- as implausibly goofy as this band so irrefutably was -- I'm loving it. Along with the original ten tracks of silly, yelping Welsh goth shenanigans (see this thread to debate whether or not GLJ were credbily Goff or not: What was the first Goth record you liked? ), there comes a bonus disc of b-sides, extended versions, remixes and other ephemera. Yeah, I know what yer sayin': "Oh yeah, if there's one thing I really can't live without, it's obscure Gene Loves Jezebel alternate takes!" Well, SHUT YOUR MOUTH, HATER! Disc two contains easily the finest bit of tunage the Jezzies ever belched out, that being "Psycho 2" (not a reference to the abortive film of identical title, but a re-work of "Psychological Problems" from the earlier disc, Promise). A manic, screeching guitar sprint that encapsulates everything grand and glorious about mid-80's goff.

Live, they were terrible....like a transvestite Aerosmith cover band. But their singles -- for a brief window of time -- were great.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it morally wrong to have gay sex with one's own brother?

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, they're out? I thought they weren't released until two weeks from now -- or are these the imports?

Promise is spectacularly brilliant almost in spite of itself.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I picked up the import.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Are they being released like this Stateside?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the album cover of Promise is brilliant, btw.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Yup, Ideal Copy sez they'll be out in two weeks. I was just going to get them at Amoeba or something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah well....Discover was only fifteen bucks, so I jumped.

The cover of Discover is entirely embarassing, but it's a great record. I'd forgotten how much I loved "Desire," especially the "ZHUUH-ZHUUH" sneeze part in the chorus.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i kid you not, at one point in my life i owned, like, 4 or 5 gene loves jezebel albums. even a live album! i think. it's been a while. what was i thinking? no sane person needs more than the first two. and even that is debateable. can't wait for the bolshoi boxed-set. or maybe flesh for lulu is up next. though the japanese probably have them all covered with deluxe editions.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Eh, you should probably own the third one as well, just for the days you don't feel like listening to the first two.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

WHAT YOU GET IS WHAT YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (SUGAR!)
DEZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYAH-AH-AH! (SUGAR!)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

No, it's "SHOO-KUH!!!"

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

It's aliens in your head.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

It's frickin' awesome, that's what it is!

The Ghost of Brak (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

That I'll agree with.

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

They used to play here a lot about four years back.

Ian Riese-Moraine's Plateau Rouge! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm relatively positive they're not saying SUGAR. Yes, I understand they say "sugar" elsewhere in the song, but the second syllable of the "sneeze" is not "gar".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 May 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I got me the Promise reissue yesterday and am merry.

"Psycho!Psycho!Psycho!PsychobeSIIIIIIIIIIIII...LENT!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 June 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuckyeah, buddy.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

like a transvestite Aerosmith cover band.

OTM! HAHAHA. haven't thought of these guys in 20 yrs. an old friend "dated" one of the twins briefly. can't remember which one.

is x-mal douchebag next in line for the Special Edition treatment?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 19 June 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

You'll have to talk to 4AD about that.

Saw some variant of the band five years back, I think, opening for a variant of the Mission. Glory days had passed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

HI STOP I ALMOST PICKED UP DISCOVER LAST WEEK STOP BUT OPTED FOR AN ESSENTIAL LOGIC COMPILATION INSTEAD STOP LOVE FOREVER STOP IAN STOP HUMANITY WON'T BE HAPPY UNTIL THE LAST BUREAUCRAT IS HUNG WITH THE GUTS OF THE LAST CAPITALIST STOP LONG LIVE THE UPRISING STOP SHAKE IN YOUR SHOES CHINESE POLITBURO OF 1968 STOP AND DON'T FORGET TO FREE THE NANTERRE EIGHT STOP
That's a nice compilation but I've only ever played it once.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I still haven't listened to the second disc (dreading the Hare Krishna stuff), but spun the first disc about five times or so. Anyway, this is not an EL thread, soooo...

But yeah, lots of GLJ reissues at Vinyl Fever now, which I imagine would be my friend Erin's fault as she's always loved them to death.

I used to have a record or two of them I used to like very very much. It'll take some time to figure out what the titles were. Then they did an album that I didn't like and that was it.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 19 June 2005 03:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Just finished listening to the bonus disc for Promise -- a lot of fun little oddities there. "Walking in the Park," with its drawling, odd vocal set against the music from "Bread from Heaven" (their most underrated song still), was particularly eyebrow-raising! And the fact that an earlier version of "Screaming (For Emmalene)" was actually a single is downright flabbergasting. As is the revelation that Associates drummer John Murphy did some work with the band at this time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Love for Gene Loves Jezebel AND Belfegore on the same board? I swear sometimes it seems like we all knew each other in a past life.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 19 June 2005 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

x-mal douchebag

I laughed so hard at this that I practically spilled coffee all over my step-father's computer.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 19 June 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

It really is the re-release season, isn't it (Gang of Four, Siouxsie, the Cure and soon....Killing Joke and...er....Manowar).

Wait, what? Siouxsie rereleases? After I finally knuckled under and bought A Kiss in the Dreamhouse? Buggeryfuck.

Telephonething, Sunday, 19 June 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Word is that the Siouxsie albums are going to get something similar to the Cure reissues -- two disc, second disc with unheard rarities, etc. etc.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, but WHEN?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

You know. Soon. Ish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

there was some really fucking weird article in "classic rock" very recently which was all about how much the twins hated each other these days. It sounds like a pretty lame scene.

My only memory of the band was when they were on "the tube", seeming dressed in pyjamas, and looking like a fucked-up-in-the-head-and-not-in-a-good-way vers. of hanoi roxx. I remember being amazed when I read that they'd done some decent business in the st8s. :-/

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

...so I perhaps won't be buying these reissues. However, it just occured to me that to my eternal shame that if these were similar reissues of Danse Society's rekkids, I'd probably get quite excited by them. Terrible.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, the twins had a pretty bad falling out and last I heard they still weren't talking to each other. The fact that they *both* ended up leading separate Gene Loves Jezebels forever amuses me; that even outdoes the dueling Christian Deaths. Albums keep surfacing for some strange reason.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 19 June 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link

While out on a leisurely stroll today, I remembered the name of the song I really liked a lot by them: it was called Cow. It was on a U.S. version of the Desire EP with a purple sleeve, it was at the end of one of the sides.

From looking around at pictures, I believe I had Immigrant, but don't think I ever had Promise. I think it would be fun to hear their earliest material. I might just spring for this after all.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 19 June 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

First CD bored me to tears, but the second CD sounds pretty damn fabulous so far, particularly those 1982 tracks.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 June 2005 07:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't get Promise until way after (like ten years) I'd heard Discover. Their later stuff was largely crap ("Suspicion" on House of Dolls was okay, though). Discover is all you really need, I'd say.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

From the book "Tape Delay", Mark E. Smith says:

I heard a single the other day by Gene Loves Jezebel, I could have sworn it was like a track off a Black Sabbath album. I mean there was nothing different from it, I mean it's really good actually, it's called "Shame". But if you went back in a time machine ten years ago and played it to somebody, a Black Sabbath fan would really get into it.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark E. Smith is not a well man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd believe it if Dave Q said it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
enjoying this thread... The transvestite Aerosmoth a fave' tho' how could we out we possibly out-shemale Aerosmitrh? I'll take that as a compliment..BTW we never said or thought we were Goth, we actually had the audacity to believe we were our own deal..ah'blame it on youth.
PS we never appeared on the tube... We only ever made Max headroom and that was a video...

Michael Aston, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:58 (eighteen years ago) link

alex has bad timing

no bones, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
How the fuck did I miss Michael Aston posting on this thread?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Holy Crap!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 20 January 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

"SHOO-SHUH!"

Listened to Discover yesterday and all turned a blissful 1986 all over again. Why must music suck such a big bag of bean-paste slathered cocks today?

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

REVIVE COS I SAID SO!

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 22 March 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

We just need Jay to post here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

man I tried to like these guys way back when, I really did -pretty sure I even saw 'em play at some point. my then-girlfriend thought they were OK early on ('84 I think), which was weird, because we were pretty much mirror images of each other - if I liked it, she liked it, vice-versa, conjoined-twins kinda schtick we had goin. By the time "Heartache" was all over KROQ though - I dunno it sounded kinda like soft-goth Asia/09125 Yes to me.

J0hn D., Saturday, 22 March 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

man I'll give it up for this "Bury Your Head" track once it gets to the chorus though, fuck yeah

J0hn D., Saturday, 22 March 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

soft-goth Asia/09125 Yes to me.

Bahahahahahaaha....ouch!

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 22 March 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

WHEAT FARMER!!! HAVE YOU SEEN MY COW!!!

love that song.

at some point, i owned, like, FOUR gene loves jezebel albums. the first three and a LIVE album. for real, a live album. i don't own any anymore. i would listen to the first two again if i had them.

scott seward, Saturday, 22 March 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

You should, they're great.

Don't think I've muttered it in full on this thread but "Bread from Heaven" still works as a snarling anti-Thatcher blast (specifically regarding policy towards Wales) sublimated into this moody crawl of far-in-the-distance drums, ghostly echoes of feedback and vocal keening. Too oblique for its own good maybe -- I didn't realize what the song was about until I stumbled across an explanation for it in an interview by one of the brothers -- but one of the better overtly politicized songs of the time that works still.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Shit I now have to go out and buy every GLJ album, thanks.

HI DERE, Saturday, 22 March 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Always happy to help.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 March 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link


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