Please talk about: "Buffalo Stance" by Neneh Cherry

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― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like how she introduces the various parts of the drum beat at the beginning. It's like introducing the members of your band, but in the digital studio age.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

It has the most endearingly bad scratching in it ever.

― tylero (tylero), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Also: what is a buffalo stance?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

Everyone in the world likes this song, right?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I remember posting once that the song was great but the rest of the album Raw Like Sushi was terrible. This being ILM, I was promptly disabused of this notion.

― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's a really excellent record, that's all I can say right now.

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2005_05_01_nylpm_archive.html#111581074311602649

― $V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

I've never heard the album. Living in the downloadin' internet age it's hard to imagine a time when if you suddenly remembered some awesome song from like 10 years ago, you actually had to go out and buy the whole album just to hear that one song. Though I guess that could be good if you end up rediscovering some older awesome album.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I guess there were "CASSINGLES."

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

hearing this song for the first time in many years is like manna from heaven. hearing it the second time - not so much.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Quite a charming song, which represents its era very well.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Nenah and I used
the same Brooklyn laundromat:
1992

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

(I think that was her, anyway)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

i heard it the other night in a cab on the way home from a good date. it was fantastic.

too bad her dad's dead.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

too bad her brother released an album

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Gigalo!

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found that Hook-ish bassline charming too.

― peepee (peepee), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

Also: what is a buffalo stance?

I think it's a pose with arms-crossed and tanding aloof.

LOVE this song, it's one of my top ten favourites of the 80's.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

DON'T YOU GET FRESH WITH ME

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

i've never seen a buffalo cross front legs.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

On the remixes, she gets all NASTY, saying stuff like "GIVE ME A MOTHERFUCKIN' BREAK BEAT!!!". Dirrrrty.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

i have this song in my head all the time despite only knowing the tune and the words to the ".....dance .....buffalo stance" part.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Here you go, kyle:

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Who's that gigolo on the street
With his hands in his pockets and his crocadile feet
Hanging off the curb, looking all disturbed
At the boys from home. They all came running
They were making noise, manhandling toys
That's the girls on the block with the nasty curls
Wearing padded bras sucking beers through straws
Dropping down their drawers, where did you get yours?

Gigolo, Huh, sukka?
Gigolo. Gigolo, Huh, sukka?

Chorus 1:

Who's looking good today?
Who's looking good in every way?
No style rookie
You better watch don't mess with me

Chorus 2:

No moneyman can win my love
It's sweetness that I'm thinking of.
We always hang in a Buffalo Stance
We do the dive every time we dance
I'll give you love baby not romance
I'll make a move nothing left to chance
So don't you get fresh with me

Get funky. Yeah Timmy.
Tell it like it is. Check out this DJ.

So you say you wanted money but you know it's never funny
When your shoes worn through and there's a rumble in your tummy
But you had to have style get a gold tooth smile
Put a girl on the corner so you can make a pile
Committed a crime and went inside
It was coming your way but you had to survive
When you lost your babe, you lost the race
Now you're looking at me to take her place.

Chorus 1

Smokin.' Not cokin.' Get funky sax.
Looking good, hanging with the wild bunch.
Looking good in a Buffalo Stance.
Looking good when it comes to the crunch
Looking good's a state of mind
State of mind don't look behind you
State of mind or you'll be dead
State of mind may I remind you
Bomb the Bass...rock this place!
What is he like? What's he like anway?
Yo' man what do you expect the guy's a gigolo man
You know I mean?

Chorus 2 (twice)

Wind on my face, sound in my ears
Water from my eyes, and you on my mind
As I sink, diving down deep...deeper into your soul.

Chorus 2 ...

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

In the land of the mechanically funky, the squibbly robot synth is king!

― The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

How could this be anything other than brilliant?

*cocks an eye towards a looming Norwegian-derived storm*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

I always loved that synth-keys upward progression that sounds like a Sega space game going into the next level.

Send Neneh Cherry polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone

Couldn't I just send her to my pants instead?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

This may shock some to read, but I think that -- with the exception of the lyrics of "Trout," which are well-intentioned but ultimatley ridiculous -- VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT NENEH CHERRY HAS EVER DONE IS ABSOLUTELY, CATEGORICALLY BRILLIANT!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

The best part of B Stance is the sample of Miami's Chicken Yellow, I thinks.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

The $200 video is a total, total classic.

Thanks for posting the lyrics, I never could make out that "no style rookie" line.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I want to talk about "Man Child" instead. One of the most beautiful songs ever to contain rapping...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

this song is pretty good, but I don't get the classic rep.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

AND YOU TOO WILL LEARN TO LIVE THE LIE

― N_RQ, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

I played this when I DJed at the last Poptimism and out of all the songs I played, people's reaction to this put the biggest smile on my face. I love everything aout it.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hereby declare everybody in this thread to be insane. Or British.

― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

raw like sushi is great, but the single version of 'heart' is much better than the album version (or do i have that the wrong way round?)

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

this song and its video are of course fantastic

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Buffallo" was a london based photgraphy and fashion collective that specialised in tuff/pretty looking models. if u saw The Face at any time in the early 80's then you know their work. They did most of the fashion covers (Nick Kamen was their most famous). the collective was formed by Ray Petri, Jamie Morgan and Cameron McVey (who Neneh later married).

http://www.showstudio.com/projects/mgn/mgn_movies.html

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

she only married one of them, not all three.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think 3D from Massive Attack was part of the scene too, hence "lookin good, hangin' with The Wild Bunch"

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

I loved this song when it came out and was actually listening to the 45 when the '89 bay area earthquake hit. The record was skipping over and over again when the earthquake stopped and it always creeped me out after that.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

that is true

and the song is Classic, Klassic and any other way you wanna spell it, always makes me smile and ppl dance when I play it

and Alex in NYC is right in saying Neneh generally is brilliant

btw, has anyone actually come out hating the song yet?

― H (Heruy), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

one of my favorites, ever. i finally found the 12" a couple of years ago, which was a sunny day indeed.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

x-post:
half the song was originally on a Wild Bunch-produced Jamie J Morgan b-side a couple of years earlier

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

how about we all celebrate by somebody YSIing it!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

For some reason, not necessarily musical, Buffalo Stance reminds of Oran Juice Jones - The Rain.

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

I bought the cassingle of this 'back in the day'. I don't have it with me anymore, but I recall the cardboard edges of that thing were really really worn.

― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

― N_RQ, Friday, 20 May 2005 07:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

the first cd i ever owned (c1990).

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

Geoff Barrow (Portishead) did a couple of tracks on Homebrew too.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

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Holy Fuck. Did anyone else see this??

― mmmm, Sunday, 15 July 2012 22:49 (10 months ago) Permalink

see what?

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:18 (10 months ago) Permalink

Sorry that made little sense. Neneh & The Thing surpassed all expectations last night. Definitely one of the best live things I've been to in a while. Rare for me to go to a gig and just not want it to end..

― mmmm, Monday, 16 July 2012 11:48 (10 months ago) Permalink

sad I missed this ;_;

― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 16 July 2012 12:26 (10 months ago) Permalink

Neneh had such a huge stage presence. Literally stalking the stage. Dressed in customised Adidas. Everything sounded so tight, I half expected The Thing to dominate but she had such control. The noise! The encore was just brilliant.

― mmmm, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:49 (10 months ago) Permalink

oh man! Wish I could have seen that. Sadly, not even coming to my continent. Glad it was amazing.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 July 2012 13:22 (10 months ago) Permalink

so is Buffalo Stance where the title of that Style Rookie blog came from?

― President Keyes, Monday, 16 July 2012 13:31 (10 months ago) Permalink

They were at Pfork, I think? (I didn't go) I've seen The Thing a couple of times and those players in other ensembles a bunch of times -- all of them were really interesting and I won't go so far as to say 100% ALWAYS SPELLBINDING but there's always a lot going on and a lot to pay attention to.

Basically, if I've enjoyed practically every show I've ever seen those guys perform (Nilsson-Love, Gustafsson, Haker-Flaten have all been in a lot of other bands) Add Neneh Cherry stalking the stage, and I think the wider audience potential skyrockets.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

(For reference - afaik they all came through Chicago a lot b/c of the Vandermark connection, Haker-Flaten lived/lives here too.)

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:45 (10 months ago) Permalink

aah.

p4k wasn't listed on her Facebook page, but that doesn't really mean anything.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 July 2012 13:47 (10 months ago) Permalink

Maybe they weren't there -- maybe I'm misremembering that

Either way -- those people used to (and still do) play around Chicago a lot, but there seems to be a next generation brewing since the last time I was really paying attention. My point was that The Thing are totally awesome.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 13:58 (10 months ago) Permalink

the cherry thing is amazing, really delivers on pretty much every level.

― tylerw, Monday, 16 July 2012 15:16 (10 months ago) Permalink

i finally caught up w/the cherry thing last week, found it underwhelming but will play it more. on a car trip this weekend we played homebrew, first time since the 90s and it held up v well. our 16 y.o. son was intrigued by the stylistic blend asking "what do you call this?" dunno. trip-hop pop?

― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 16 July 2012 15:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

man I actually forget exactly how much I love "Buffalo Stance" unless I play it

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:15 (10 months ago) Permalink

I love this song a lot.

― *sad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 04:48 (10 months ago) Permalink

for ages now the font on the front of the cherry thing was reminding me of something, and then it clicked today

― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:17 (10 months ago) Permalink

How did I not know until today that this song originated from this:

which was a remix of this:

― MarkoP, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (10 months ago) Permalink

I was reading the OED entry for "like" and at the bottom I was very tickled to see an attested use of "like" attributed to "N. Cherry et al, Buffalo Stance". Led me down the same path as MarkoP here, tracing the etymology of the song. Keep going! You have Malcolm McLaren's "Buffalo Gals" still to find!

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 21:04 (10 months ago) Permalink

Oh Buffalo Gals and its connection to that song is pretty well known. But my lack of familiarity with lower tier SAW singles, meant that I never knew about that.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 21:26 (10 months ago) Permalink

which was a remix of this:

lol I tried to get that super corrected

― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

Her new album is really really enjoyable. REALLY!
Wouldn't have expected or asked for or wanted an album like this from her, but...it's just about the best thing released this year wtf. :)

― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

u+k (from a sometime (?) ilxor) - http://www.mtvhive.com/2012/06/20/neneh-cherry-malcolm-mclaren-elvis-costello-cras/

― balls, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

Her new album is really really enjoyable

It's not "her" new album, it's an album by The Thing with her as guest vocalist.

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 09:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

― Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 09:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's credited to both neneh and the thing equally

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 09:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah I realize that, it just sounds like a Thing album with vocals to me

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

probably depends on whether you're more a fan of one vs. the other. sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

It's not "her" new album, it's an album by The Thing with her as guest vocalist.

the aggressiveness of your ownership claim on their behalf (over "her") is weird tho

― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

same, though i'm sure this is because i've been a neneh cherry fan for my entire life, pretty much, and had never heard of the thing before this year. but even so i can't see how you can't hear her personality stamped all over it.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 10:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

THEIR new album then, anagram.

Either way, it's hot. :)

― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

i am generally in favor of out music finding a way in. the thing is not really all that far out there, but i imagine that people think they are (or don't even want to give them a chance), and now that they've heard the thing as n cherry's backup band they might be more likely to consider listening to other stuff they've done.
good for the thing!

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

i've said this elsewhere but i'm really looking fwd to properly getting into jazz when i'm too old to go clubbing. and i LOVE what the thing do on this album, i love how their music and neneh's vocals mirror each other w/r/t the wildness/control tension.

i suspect la lechera intended to write "our" but i like the idea of "out" as an abbrev of "outré"

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

i always want to think that she's saying "harmolodics" at the beginning of buffalo stance.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:31 (9 months ago) Permalink

no, i totally meant out music -- music that is not in! it's out there. :)

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

No, I'm sure she meant "out" as in "way out"

xxp!

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

i like that usage too!

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

"Kisses on the Wind" is SO FUCKING GOOD!!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

I have never heard this before!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:02 (2 months ago) Permalink

I said on fb that the super bring piano reminds me of something you'd hear in a really euphoric 15 second outro, except it's all over the whole song.

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

I have never heard this before!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux))

can't really get my head around this!

― jed_, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

The only other track better than "Kisses on the Wind" is "Heart" ("Buffalo Stance" is a world apart).

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 16:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

xp it was never that big over here! She's kinda regarded as a one-hit wonder for "Buffalo Stance". I only heard "Kisses" it when I took the time to listen to Raw Like Sushi on Spotify last night.

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 17:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

"Kisses" went top ten in America, but it's true I never hear it.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 17:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

fcuking jamie oliver seems to have adopted this as his theme tune now, a delete from playlist moment if there ever was one...

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

fucking jamie oliver. What is he LIKE

― dat neggy nilmar (wins), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 19:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

The "Kisses on the Wind" single is worth getting if you like it. It has an extended version of the tune, a nice Latin house remix of it by David Morales, plus a semi-acoustic non-album B side.

― Tuomas, Friday, 1 March 2013 07:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

Damn. Raw Like Sushi is magnificent. I don't think I've heard it for about 20 years but it sounds great this afternoon. I don't think its acknowledged as a "great album" (wtf is that/rockist etc?) but why not? All kinds of beautiful Madonna/psb/Public Enemy awesome all over it. Cherry is so charismatic and I love her. Very very much. Gonna check out Homebrew now - never heard it.

― kraudive, Sunday, 3 March 2013 15:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

HEART. HEART. YOU CAN'T BREAK MY HEART.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 March 2013 16:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

https://soundcloud.com/neneh-cherry/neneh-cherry-afrika-baby-bam

new track produced by four tet, neneh in beat poet mode. Not sure what I think of it yet :-\

― ok let's all fuck our pants to something new (wins), Sunday, 14 April 2013 19:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

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