Bob Seger Reissue News

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
May 2, 2005

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


CAPITOL RECORDS RELEASES REMASTERED VERSION OF
BOB SEGER'S CLASSIC 1972 ALBUM, SMOKIN' O.P.'S, ON JUNE 7TH

Capitol Cites Increased Demand From Online Fan Community For Seger Reissues


Fans have kept Bob Seger's Greatest Hits album on the charts since its 1994
release (it was #8 on Billboard's Pop Catalog chart for the week of May 7th
- its 550th consecutive week on the charts). Now Capitol Records is
responding to requests from the Detroit rocker's online fan community for
reissues of Seger's more obscure works by releasing a newly remastered
version of his 1972 release, Smokin' O.P.'s, on June 7th.

With a career spanning almost 40 years and nearly 50 million records sold,
Grammy winner Bob Seger is known for his extraordinary depth of songs that
capture both the hope and the heartbreak implicit in the American Dream.
With the release of Smokin' O.P.'s, he took a month long break from
songwriting and constant touring to record an album of rock classics with
Teegarden & Van Winkle of "God, Love and Rock & Roll" fame. (The
title is
Seger shorthand for "smoking other people's songs.") The album was recorded
at Pampa Studios in Detroit which resided in the basement of the Pampa Lanes
Bowling Alley. The bowlers had to be stopped from time to time in order to
record the tracks. As Punch Andrews, Seger's longtime manager, recalls
"sometimes the bass was enhanced by the rumble of the bowlers on Lane 17".
As Stephen Thomas Erlewine notes on allmusic.com:

"...it [Smokin' O.P.'s] reveals that Seger isn't just a first-class
bandleader and rock songwriter, but that he's a terrific interpreter of
other writer's songs. Even well-worn tunes like 'Bo Diddley' and 'If I Were
a Carpenter' get made fresh by internalizing the hooks, turning them into
something fresh and original. That's also true of songs by such
contemporaries as Stephen Stills ('Love the One You're With') and Leon
Russell ('Humming Bird'), and he also breathes fire into blues and rock
stalwarts like 'Let It Rock,' 'Turn on Your Love Light,' and 'Jesse James.'"

In addition to his funk-rock interpretations of some of rock's best loved
standards, Smokin' O.P.'s included a "cover" of his own "Heavy Music"
and
"Someday," which Seger had recently penned about the hardships encountered
in the music industry.

Seger made his Capitol debut in 1968 and has remained with the label ever
since - except for a three-year break. Touring almost continually, Seger set
up his own distribution company, Palladium, for the release of Smokin'
O.P.'s. With the success of the single "If I Were A Carpenter," an
immediate hit in Detroit, Seger's career seemed to be rejuvenated. In fact,
the record began to take off so well that independent distributors like Arc
Jay Kay and AMI Distributors were screaming for more records. When Seger
and company ran out of resources to press records, they signed on to the
Reprise label for distribution through Warner Bros., but by the time Warner
Bros. plants were up and running the momentum had passed and Seger would
have to struggle for three more years before his music would receive
widespread commercial success.

The track listing for Smokin' O.P.'s is as follows:

1. Bo Diddley/Who Do You Love
2. Love The One You're With
3. If I Were A Carpenter
4. Hummin' Bird
5. Let It Rock
6. Turn On Your Love Light
7. Jesse James
8. Someday
9. Heavy Music

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a step in some sort of right direction.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

But still NOT ENOUGH.

Regardless, Chuck to thread. Even though I know he hates that phrase.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

The covers are just ok but "Heavy Music" lives up to its title!

How about Mongrel next please Capitol?

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Dunno if there's been a thread about this, but some of the Cameo stuff is on the forthcoming Cameo-Parkway box on ABKCO.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link

the first and last tunes on this album are amazing. the Bob Seger System album I have is better tho...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 May 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

woah, what's the "Cameo/Parkway box"?? Details please!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Four CDs, with tons of the major singles Klein has been holding back on since the '70s. Not as much Seger as I remember from looking at the track listing before, but still, pretty prime:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00081U6IW/ref=pm_dp_ln_m_2/104-2836217-1475920?v=glance&s=music&vi=samples

I love "Ride!" by Dee Dee Sharp.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

So what's the deal, does Klein need money for dialysis or something?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Given that he put out separate CD compilations on some of the Spector acts after 'Back to Mono,' I'm sure he'll do the same here. Maybe we'll finally see a pre-Capitol Seger best-of.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Someone seriously needs to reissue Ramblin' Gamblin' Man!

Steve Gertz (sgertz), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

That box only has three of the tracks. Here's the Cameo discography:

East Side Story/East Side Sound (Cameo 438) 1966
Sock It To Me, Santa/Florida Time (Cameo 444) 1966
Persecution Smith/Chain Smokin' (Cameo 465) 1966
Vagrant Winter/Very Few (Cameo 743) 1967
Heavy Music/Heavy Music, pt 2 (Cameo 494) 1967

"Persecution Smith," "Vagrant Winter," "Very Few" -- that's some of the best U.S. rock and roll of the mid-sixties. The stuff is in league with, say, Beefheart's Safe as Milk.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, that box just went immediately to the want list!

I still haven't dug out my "Vagrant Winter" 45 since that noize board thread, Tim! I will try to tonite.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to mention "East Side Story," which is tops. (That one's on the box. The Santa Claus song -- also on there -- is actually really good, too.!)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I know "East Side Story" by heart. I've played that one a million times. Remember, I ended up agreeing with you! I think. Anyway, it was "Vagrant Winter" / "Very Few" where my memory was a bit foggy.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Cameo-Parkway: Holy fucking shit. Teen idols, the twist, proto Philly soul and primo garage bands on the same box. Could be more Seger, true, but 99% of this stuff has never been out on CD here.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

(x-post: No, I just meant that I was including "East Side Story" amongst the great tracks!)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Then there are the albums Seger did for Warner Brothers in the early 70s, Noah and Back in 72 are supposed to be pretty good, too.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

roffling at the Pete Best track on there.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I sorta want to hear it -- once.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Fascinating account from The Tapestry of Delights!

"Pete Best was, as many of you will know, the original drummer with The Beatles, who was ousted to make way for Ringo Starr. Decca were quick to sign his new outfit but they lacked the talent to make it. Pete Best also recorded 45s and albums in the US for labels like Cameo, Mr. Maestro and Happening. One of his best, The Way I Feel About You, was a pretty grungy beat-punk effort.

Best also made some recordings with Joe Meek shortly after departing the Beatles, however none have subsequently seen the light of day."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 2 May 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

In the meantime, there's always this one:

THE BEST OF HIDEOUT RECORDS

1 Bob Seger & The Last Heard East Side Story
2 Underdogs Get Down On Your Knees
3 Pleasure Seekers Never Thought You'd Leave Me
4 Henchmen Please Tell Me
5 Mushrooms Burned
6 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Heavy Music
7 Underdogs Don't Pretend
8 Bottle Company Lives For No One
9 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Persecution Smith
10 Yorkshires I Go Crazy
11 Mushrooms Such A Lovely Child
12 Underdogs The Man In The Glass
13 4 Of Us You're Gonna Be Mine
14 Yorkshires Hey, Hey, Hey
15 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Chain Smokin'
16 Underdogs Friday At The Hideout
17 Underdogs Surprise, Surprise
18 Bob Seger System Lookin' Back
19 D. Dodger Ballad Of The Yellow Beret
20 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Vagrant Winter
21 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Florida Time
22 Bob Seger & The Last Heard East Side Sound
23 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Heavy Music, Part 2
24 Bob Seger & The Last Heard Sock It To Me, Santa

It's available from the address at the bottom of this page (or so I think. . .I got my copy a year or so ago):

http://www.psychotronic.info/ioam/hideout_records.htm

Sang Freud (jeff_s), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Then there are the albums Seger did for Warner Brothers in the early 70s, Noah and Back in 72 are supposed to be pretty good, too.
-- m coleman (lovebug...), May 3rd, 2005 7:53 PM. (lovebug starski)

Back in '72 is great!! Noah is ... not so hot. Neither is Brand New Morning for that matter. I think he was still getting his head together. I actually found a nice Back in '72 for .50 at this university divinity school book sale where they had a small pile of like 50 records. And there was Back in '72 just waiting for me! It kinda made up for the fact that I paid through the nose for my Noah...

Yeah, re: Hideout, there's also this slightly more above-ground looking thing on Norton --

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NKIC/qid%3D1115082877/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/103-4204839-3895845

the Underdogs were great! actually Tim, I thought of you the other day when I scouring the dollar bin, cuz I found a copy of the second ROMANTICS album, and it turns out they do a cover of "Friday at the Hideout" on it!! See, the Romantics were cool. I didn't buy it though, for some strange reason.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Never heard the Underdogs, actually.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

like a rock

charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

wow that sucks

corey c (shock of daylight), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

>Chuck to thread. Even though I know he hates that phrase. <

Um, I was here. I think people kinda already know what I think (same thing lots of others here might think): It's great that some of the stuff is resurfacing, but Seger will not be able to claim the Greatest Rock'n'Roll Album in the History of the Universe Award until all his early mid '60s to mid '70s punk rock singles are compiled in one place (and probably some tracks like "Lucifer" or "U.M.C." that may never have been actual singles per se'; I dunno, I'm too lazy to check now.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

ps) The couple Underdogs tracks I've heard on compilations were really good. And that second Romantics LP (with "Tomboy" and "Stone Pony" and "21 and Over") is great; up there with *Outburst* by the Nomads as one of the best '60s-garage-style album of the '80s, and head and tails above the Romantics' other albums (which aren't bad.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I know Lucifer was a single bcz I own it. What a great track - rocking, soulful, impassioned and supercatchy like all the best Seger. 2+2= is my fave though (and it has diff. mono/stereo mixes with extra gtr dubs on one of them.)

Someone was telling me about a clip they'd seen of Seger doing Ramblin' Gamblin' Man on TV w/him switching between gtr and organ on the verses and choruses. I'd love to see that.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I just bought Mongrel on GEMM. Is my world going to be ROCKED or what?

Keith C (kcraw916), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, there was the briefest -- five seconds, maybe -- of early Seger clips in his Hall of Fame induction film last year. VH1 Classic to thread!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

but what about "hollywood nights" (a lovely guitar progression from which is currently looped in a country radio hit by somebody, but i haven't figured out who yet), "still the same," and "feel like a number," rickey? i agree *night moves* is better than *stranger in town,* but not *that* much better...the slippage is pretty slight!

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

oops; wrong seger thread - meant to post that here (and, redundantly, i will):

Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I went on an early out-of-print Seger download spree last night, managed to find 3 or 4 of the first 7. I was surprised that I knew a number of the songs, I guess living in Michigan in the 70s they'd play occasional "regional hits" on the radio. Bob was really pushing his voice to the limit in those days.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I will buy this. Is there any other artist of Seger's stature whose catalog is in such disarray?

brianiac (briania), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone got $150 for a sealed CD of "Mongrel" still in the long box?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4723111324&rd=1

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Seger will not be able to claim the Greatest Rock'n'Roll Album in the History of the Universe Award until all his early mid '60s to mid '70s punk rock singles are compiled in one place

Would something like this qualify?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4726135862&rd=1

It seems to be a pretty obvious boot. Is there really a "Hall of Fame" records in Europe?

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone got $5 for a nice vinyl copy of "Mongrel"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4725110613&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

screw CDs.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I can't listen to records in the car, and that's where I do most of my listening these days, thanks to a 2hr/day commute.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

But still $5 for a nice vinyl copy seems like a great deal.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link

That's how much I paid for a nice vinyl copy of the "Ramblin Gamblin Man" LP at the WFMU record fair.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You can always find cheap vinyl copies of mongrel, and ramblin' gmablin on vinyl cuz they made them into the 80's. Noah is hard to find though. and pricier. same with brand new morning.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was gonna say, why the fuck would somebody pay $150 for a CD reissue of an early '70s album that you could find a used copy for a few bucks if you just went to a few flea markets or used record stores? Because the CD is, like, "the real" reissue or something? That's completely moronic....it makes no sense at all.

(xp)

The Hall of Fame comp that o.nate linked to looks great, but is missing a lot of tracks that i'd consider mandatory (lucifer, back in '72, u.m.c., ramblin gamblin man, rosalie, etc). A couple times on this board I've mentioned a vinyl bootleg best of seger's early years album i passed up at sam's jams in ferndale (which had a big pile of them) sometime in the early '80s, because i was to cheap to shell out 15 bucks or whatever. easily the dumbest missed record purchase of my life, and the last few times i checked, there was no evidence on the internet that such a record had ever even existed (assuming i didn't dream it in the first place, which is seeming more and more like a possibility, the older i get.) (i think it *may* have been on "seeds and stems records," also responsible for the legedary *michigan rocks* compilation, but maybe not.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

holy crap, cameo/parkway reissues! pigs do fly!

time to sell off those ? and the mysterians boots!!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

(my point isn't just vinyl vs. CD; it's original vs. reissue. i mean, i'm no record collector, and i hardly pay more than a couple bucks for any record, ever, but if i were to pay a ton, i think getting a reissue of an old album would make me feel completely ripped off!)

xp

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

was it this one, chuck:

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=2597702098

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Super-Cool Cover

well hell, that *is* a super-cool cover! why did he ever grow a beard?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe! that actually looks pretty familiar, scott!! (though in my rose-colored memory it has more early '70s stuff on it, of course!)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

That's weird. If you search for "mongrel seger" on ebay, that LP scott points to above doesn't come back in the results. Stupid computers.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

...and that's how he f'd his back up and had to postpone the rest of Hus tour.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 October 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Forgot George Jackson wrote that thing

Leslie “POLLS” Hartley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 March 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

Getting reacquainted w/my early Seger vinyl, and wandered over to discogs to see about Back In '72...man, that's an expensive record! Cheapest one up right now is $60 (shipping included) from the UK.

...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

that's what happens when you obstinately refuse to repress your records

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

Yup. IIRC, it--along with Noah & Brand New Morning--have been purposely suppressed by the man himself.

Currently spinning a nice clean original press of Seven.

...some of y'all too woke to function (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

The Seger reissue news we've all been waiting for:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FLG9Z25?tag=mfconvert-20

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

I thought that was a joke post, but WOW

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

Long damn overdue; here's hoping the rest follows.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

Amazing, thanks---just now pre-ordered, suspecting that it might sell out pretty quick.

dow, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link

Although it's true that Tyler's re-up of the justly renowned Myonga comp still works:
https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/86612418452/never-mind-the-bullets-bob-seger-1966-1974 Still---I want this fuckin' finally and justly legit CD (even though it's shorter)(also mp3s can go wonky, CDs not not nearly as often, in my longform experience) with its CD booklet of rockscholarly notes, and photos, hopefully incl. thee immortal one 'ccompanying Tyler's post.

dow, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

kills me that "Looking Back" isn't on this set

sleeve, Friday, 14 September 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

"Looking Back" was later, like '72 or '73.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 September 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

ah OK, still kind of a bummer

sleeve, Friday, 14 September 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/Zhb6GCL.jpg

I think this is from when Bob Seger was on SST.

earlnash, Friday, 21 December 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

The South Korean reissue label Big Pink has put out Back In '72, Mongrel, Brand New Morning and Noah. If they're anything like the version of Luis Gasca's For Those Who Chant (early '70s Latin jazz-rock fusion) I bought, they'll be coming in really nice mini-LP sleeves and have excellent sound. Dusty Groove has them.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:03 (nine months ago) link

The other day one of the he SiriusXM Deep Tracks guys spun what was clearly a vinyl rip of "The Stealer" from Back In '72, and I thought of this thread.

Wow, didn’t know until now that Seger had covered that. Free’s version is a little stiff, and listening to Seger’s, it’s a little clunky (he should’ve sung it in a slightly higher register), but the Faces’ version is all-time, one of the best things they ever did. Bettye LaVette’s version is equally stunning.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:00 (nine months ago) link

Tyme to ask tylerw to re-re-up the xpost Myonga comp (which placed in Pazz & Jop): for one thing, it goes further than the finally authorized collection, with "Heavy Music" etc.

and yes tyler, best photo ever on cover
https://64.media.tumblr.com/a7b49a6fcf535ee442e2234eb0d2c771/tumblr_n61gv5f3mB1qzy30io1_1280.jpg

dow, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:02 (nine months ago) link

i still listen to that comp all the time

was super-gratified years ago when I was spinning the comp:
Mr Veg heard one of the early tracks & perked up like “who’s this?” and when I told him “Bob Seger” he said “I didn’t know Seger was cool & garagey like this” and I was like PRAISE BE MYONGA VON BONTEE FOR PREACHING THE GOSPEL

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 July 2023 00:00 (nine months ago) link

Not a bad title either!

Mark G, Sunday, 2 July 2023 22:12 (nine months ago) link

A rare case of an artist who was less willing to release his own records than ABKCO/Allen Klein, and that's the one good thing about ABKCO owning the Cameo/Parkway catalog - at least they released a few of those singles 17 years ago (from the original masters to boot).

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 July 2023 23:44 (nine months ago) link

...and they've subsequently issued several single-artist comps, genre collections, and licensed out stuff out to Ace and other boutique labels.

Tyme to ask tylerw to re-re-up the xpost Myonga comp

this is not the original comp -- i've replaced the tracks with better rips as they've become available over the years -- but here you go

mookieproof, Monday, 3 July 2023 01:53 (nine months ago) link

well alright! Thanks!!

dow, Monday, 3 July 2023 03:44 (nine months ago) link

(charlie's good tonight)

mookieproof, Monday, 3 July 2023 04:16 (nine months ago) link

thx mookie, yeah some of these trax are also on the Michigan Nuggets boot that I have, but I appreciate the better rips

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 3 July 2023 04:42 (nine months ago) link

*Raises a can of respectably inexpensive beer to mookie*

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 July 2023 04:44 (nine months ago) link

yes!!!!!!!!!!

fact checking cuz, Monday, 3 July 2023 22:52 (nine months ago) link

Haha it's funny...Rob O'Connor is a Facebook friend, and a few months ago an online talk came around the topic of early Seger, and Rob happened to mention the "Bullets" comp, asking if anyone had heard it or had any info where it came from. I was happy to tell him. :D

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 02:43 (nine months ago) link

\m/

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 02:49 (nine months ago) link

One note about "Rambling' Gamblin' Man" - it was never mixed to stereo, only to mono, and unfortunately early on somebody decided to make a shitty fake-stereo copy that more or less replaced the mono version for many years. If you have the CD of the album of the same name, you'll notice that it's in fake stereo there too. The original mono mix wasn't issued until the double-CD Ultimate Hits compilation in 2011. Unfortunately, they compressed the shit out of it and spiked the treble.

You can find transfers from the original mono 45 on YouTube. Here's one below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmB7MvL2slA

birdistheword, Thursday, 6 July 2023 01:31 (nine months ago) link

Thanks!! Was wondering about that, should have looked around.

dow, Thursday, 6 July 2023 01:41 (nine months ago) link

so which version is on the new upload mookie, do u know?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 02:02 (nine months ago) link

i . . . don't. although i doubt a mono version would be 271 kbps, so it's probably the bad stereoed-up version

also there are both mono and stereo versions of the 'heavy music' comp out there -- which comprise tracks 1-6 of the 'never mind the bullets' comp i uploaded -- from which i took the stereo versions, which may or may not have been for the best?

joke's on me for assuming that one wouldn't use the best available recording i guess. although tbf everything on the comp i uploaded is ripped to -V0 from a reasonable flac source, and arguing over the fidelity of lossy audio files is a game for suckas

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 July 2023 03:02 (nine months ago) link

Also true, and thanks again for doing this!

dow, Thursday, 6 July 2023 03:31 (nine months ago) link

lol I ask b/c I bought the 45, I also have the Heavy Music 45, happy to send over rips to compare

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:38 (nine months ago) link

in that case, you have the real deal

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:44 (nine months ago) link

btw I listened to this thing today and yr version totally rules, I think there are extra tracks? love it

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 6 July 2023 04:46 (nine months ago) link

was just listening to the original version a few days ago, so seeing this revival with an upgraded version is a very welcome treat.
ta muchly for this mookieproof.

mark e, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:21 (nine months ago) link

It truly is amazing that this thread is arguably the center of the best actual 'reissuing' of this period of his work, given his stature. Though per unperson's post seems like it's being partially redressed, but what are the sources they're using?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:37 (nine months ago) link

I've only bought one of their releases, but their reputation is pretty solid, I think. They do a lot of obscure late 60s/early 70s titles from major labels' catalogs, kinda like what Wounded Bird used to do but with much nicer packaging.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:40 (nine months ago) link

Seems like whenever Seger is asked in interviews why his early stuff isn't more widely available, he says something like "Punch doesn't think it's that important, and whatever Punch says, goes."

henry s, Thursday, 6 July 2023 15:53 (nine months ago) link

xxxpost dear birdistheword: a helpless friend (not me, I swear) really digs the mono "RGM" except tone arm x dead air don't suit playlist he's making, wants to know if you or anybody can rec. a transfer on YouTube w/o dead air (cos he can't be arsed to find it himself, so I'm enabling/passing along request, thanks for your consideration and the link above, which is fine with me).

dow, Friday, 7 July 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link

How about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jniips1Icxo

birdistheword, Friday, 7 July 2023 03:46 (nine months ago) link

Great, thanks again bird!

dow, Friday, 7 July 2023 17:53 (nine months ago) link

You're welcome!

birdistheword, Friday, 7 July 2023 19:48 (nine months ago) link

I am listening to this again, it still rules

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 7 July 2023 19:49 (nine months ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.