Mouldy old dough by Earl Brutus.

tell all.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have heard rumours that it will be getting a release soon.

As far as I know it was a collaboration between Earl Brutus, some stll alive chap from Lush and an ex Mary chain guitarist...It's supposedly very good indeed.

― Kris England, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Kris England, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Seems it was slated to be out on "Deceptive" well, you know what happened to them...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's pretty much what the original sounded like

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

i suspect that this is the white label that was listed on the mojo listening panel a couple of years ago.

i have a FOF of someone in the band and pushed and pushed to get him to give me the lowdown .. as well as hassling loads of other folks to get acess to the fellas.

all of which - came to nothing.

there was also a small NME advert for t-shirts .. which had a typically Earl Brutus slogan on it ..

superb band. off to dig out the albums and revel in their majestic noise.

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 11:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

tell'em they bloody well should be.

i'd set up a crappy lo-tech cd-r internet label and release it to mass apathy - and, how on earth could they resist such an offer

...

shrunken head is now totally pissing off my neighbours and making my blood rush.

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

.. because I'm not reviving that one.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

too fucking right. they soundtracked my life for about eight months in the mid-to-late nineties, and i love them for it. i saw them live at least three times ... first time was at the venue in edinburgh, which they completely emptied. there were two of us left standing (admittedly, my mate was so drunk he didn't know where he was), and even i slunk off before they'd finished, so absolutely headfucked was i by how gloriously different they were.

last time was at the cathouse in glasgow. they rocked so hard i thought the world had fallen off its axis.

(and "gypsy camp battle" is still one of the most chillingly brilliant songs i've ever heard.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

this was one of the first pages i sorted out when i setup ireallylovemusic all those years ago, in fact the day i saw them was probably the day i decided that music was once again relevant in my life :

http://www.ireallylovemusic.co.uk/rock/earlbrutus.html

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

i have no idea where my albums have gone. i know i MP3d "tonight you are ..." a couple of years back, but i need to go in search of "your majesty" again. this week. yes.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 12:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

― hull hole (hull hole), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

sort'em out. i'll pay the beer money.

then again .. maybe not.

m.e

― mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 06:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 06:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 08:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://pho-ku.com/exhibit/index.html

Earl Brutus and AOC on same bill .. (sort of)

― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 26 May 2005 11:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

the brutus meets the St E !

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1502649,00.html

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

or rediscover of Toys !

(wait till his kid starts getting into Bionicles .. whoa ..)

― mark e (mark e), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

i finally got "your majesty ..." and it might just be one of the greatest albums ever made.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 November 2006 23:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 00:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

― Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Dog (Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountai), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 23:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

the more i listen to/think about/marvel at earl brutus, the more i think they might, all things considered, be my favourite band ever.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah these guys are pretty bloody brilliant

― Just got offed, Tuesday, 4 December 2007 00:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

"are" ... YES, LET'S KEEP THE FLAME BURNING and hope for that unlikely reformation.

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

quite rightly, they got placed into the Guardian 1000 Albums list didn't they ..

flame on.

― mark e, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

which album? having heard both i'm veering slightly towards "Tonight..." but it's close. i think "your majesty..." the TRACK is possibly their best song.

― Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Earl Brutus
Your Majesty We Are Here (1996)
Though it was released at the height of Britpop, this debut from Earl Brutus had more in common with conceptual Britart. The music provided glam-rock thunder, the personnel provided glamour - two guys at the front, just drinking - and the lyrics gave the enterprise a surprising lightness of touch.
"

― mark e, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

"second class war" is the one track i'd use to convince any unbeliever. which reminds me ... need to do a CD of "that stuff you listen to" for mrs F's 70-something aunt. SCW will categorically be on there.

didn't see the guardian list and don't want to bring myself to care about it :)

xpost: okay, nice try, but ... y'know, facts?

the personnel provided glamour

this is irony, right?

two guys at the front, just drinking

one guy -- and not until later, either. shin-yu wasn't in the band (IIRC) at that time.

― grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually, 'navyhead' and 'black speedway' take some beating. as do 'edelweiss' and '99p'. and 'male wife'. hmm.

― Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 16:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

New recruits to the Earl Brutus cause, hooray!

― Tom D., Thursday, 6 December 2007 10:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

favourite memory involved them playing the new bands stage at glastonbury in 98/99 (a muddy year) or so in a slot before julian lennon. times overrun, and yoko ono turns up in the photographers pit early, just in time for earl brutus to be finishing up their set. to this day i'll never forget the sight of her in her white designer mac outfit and wellies gamely yet confusedly jiggling about as the singer of earl brutus is unwittingly wobbling everywhere and showering her in lager.

― matt h, Thursday, 6 December 2007 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

yoko went to see julian lennon?!

― energy flash gordon, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

yoko WENT TO GLASTONBURY to see julian lennon?!?!

― energy flash gordon, Thursday, 6 December 2007 23:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

earl brutus drinking lager !?!?!?

― mark e, Friday, 7 December 2007 09:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

I suggested a cardboard cut-out of Nick Sanderson, perhaps attached to a revolving sign, maybe with a cut-out of Prince Charles on the reverse, Shin-Yu all giving it a drunken kick every so often...

(in 999/1000 cases, this would be inappropriate - not so here)

― MPSIA (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

[Returns to ILX in a puff of fag smoke]

Hello all. What the FUCK is all this about, then? :)

― Error: No Error (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 17:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

and so the fun begins :

http://the1234shoreditch.com/line-up/2010/pre-present-earl-brutus.html

― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2010 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

line up :

THE PRE NEW

(From Stage –L R)

Stuart Boreman – Insecurity Guard
Jim Fry – Vocal / i-Pod
Gordon King – Effects
L B - Guitar
Shinya Hyashida – Bass Guitar / Voice
George Phillips – Drums
Vincent Gibson – Vocal

― mark e, Thursday, 22 April 2010 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

And as mark e just posted, more details:

http://ireallylovemusic.co.uk/blog/?p=1503

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

ah. ta ned.
loving the fact i will get to hear some world of twist classics as well as rejoicing in the brutus noise.
needless to say, (to bring the thread back in line), i will be the one shouting out for mouldy old dough

― mark e, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, what can i say.
on saturday i was lucky to be able to check out the first official live debut by the pre new.
hanging out before the chaos with the band (Shin and Jamie Fry from EB, and some mates adding more noise) was very revealing.
firstly and most shocking to me was finding out out there was/is a secret member of Earl Brutus who provides a lot of the lyrics, and even the vocals to 'on me, not in me'.
secondly, jamie fry is soon to hit the mid century, but to say he is fired up re the Pre New would be an understatement.
oh, and his "thirst for life" is anything but settling down.
as to the actual gig ?
well, Shin is on bass (something he isn't too happy about as it means he has to actually work as opposed to being able to just stand there and get sh*t faced!), and his stage presene consists of standing low, hair down covering face, bass neck vertical, and just letting loose.
Jim on vocals dominates the stage (like Mark Stewart, Jamie is a big big man).
No slacker appearance for him. Sharp suit, sharp shoes, and sharp 'tude.
The music may have lacked the machine beats and synths that make EB so special, but this was just a practise session for the band to feel their feet, so it was pretty straight up rock sounding, but for 40 minutes they rattled out a couple of old classics ('universal plan' of course, the rest are a booze fueled blazed blur), and one or two new ones that have lyrics just as direct and wonderful as previously.
the result of which was just a huge blast and very entertaining (Jamie using the venues air conditioning as extra percussion)
unfortunately due to the need to get up @ 6am the next day, i was not able to stay out with them to celebrate the event, but i'm lead to believe things became somewhat messy.
growing old disgracefully never felt or sounded so good.

― mark e, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

^awesomeness

― some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was beyond awesome.
several times through the evening i just kept getting major rushes of 'what the fuck is happening here !'
it was at times very surreal.
eg. finding out that the drummer was part of electrafixation (live band version) and marion meaning a lot of 90s indie nerd talk was rather appropiate.
my new favourite possession : a 'i'm with the pre new' badge

― mark e, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am going to have to see this band, very soon. You have me all worked up now!

― some men enjoy the feeling of being owned (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i would like to hope they incorp. machines into the full set, as opposed to bass/guitar/drums etc..
pretty certain one discussion indicated they intended to.

― mark e, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Pre New Anthem lyric snippets

We crash fast cars
We kill pop stars
We eat Mars Bars

We eat Mars Bars

We don't do Voodoo
'Cause we don't have too

BOMB ME
BOMB ME
BOMB ME

this is a classic stomp of a track.

cant wait to hear the recorded version.

― mark e, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

gosh :

write up the so called riot :

http://dearme.spex.de/2010/06/08/his-royal-darkness-sir-nicholas-sanderson/

also, now i know where the logo for the pre new was lifted from.

― mark e, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sweet

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ (concealed Chinnichap reference)

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am going to have to see this band, very soon. You have me all worked up now!

They played on Saturday, LJ, where were you?

― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not knowing when bands are playing, that's where I was

― so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Internet, dear boy, internet

― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, Shin is on bass (something he isn't too happy about as it means he has to actually work as opposed to being able to just stand there and get sh*t faced!), and his stage presene consists of standing low, hair down covering face, bass neck vertical, and just letting loose

In fact, Damo Suzuki crossed with Holger Czukay!

― Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

this saturday is the bands last confirmed gig for a while at the 1234 festival.

wish i could go.

it sounds like they have changed the set up quite a bit in the last few weeks.

― mark e, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 09:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's like I know the guy who wrote this story. Wonder who he is...

http://thequietus.com/articles/04671-earl-brutus-revived-jamie-fry-of-the-pre-new-interviewed

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Deep roffles:

Speaking of Glastonbury, given the history of the band, you're not the most obvious band for the festival; did you end up having a so-called 'Glastonbury moment'?

JF: Earl Brutus played on a rainy Sunday afternoon in the new bands tent when Pulp were headlining. It was pissing with rain, we were all in a bad mood, we got there at midday, played at 4pm and left at 1am. So that was my impression of Glastonbury.

The only other thing that I thought was hilariously funny, was due to the mud, our gear had to be carried in on a land rover, and we had to walk and got covered in mud, but in front of us was Sean Lennon being carried by 2 roadies so he didn't get his feet dirty. We went on stage doing our thing, and a friend of ours was on the side of the stage when Sean walked up to him and said 'what's this shit?'. To which our friend said 'That's Earl Brutus, and your dad would have fucking loved them', leaving Sean stomping off in a strop. Of course, the fact that we had a full tent for our show that completely emptied when he came on after us was just hilarious.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also pretty amazing:

Did you wear the suit?

JF: Yeah, I always wear the suit on Saturday nights.

Could you explain more, given that Earl Brutus were not a suit wearing band?

JF: Always be true to yourself. Earl Brutus were a garage forecourt type of band, eating kebabs, but that was 13 years ago, and a lot has happened. Listen to the words in the new stuff; there is a truth to the new stuff, and we are no longer dysfunctional teens. Earl Brutus was talking about growing up in our thirties, now we are about a different era of pensions and property schemes.

I've just spent 2 years on a property venture, in a bid to try and make money because I want a bit of money in my pockets when I get old. It didn't fail, and it didn't succeed, but I tell you what, it was fucking boring. I was exposed to that world, and so the words reflect that.

Yeah, I put on the suit, dressing up and making a big deal of it. It's a northern thing, as Londoners don't seem to do it. I'm a middle aged man, and a middle age man wears a suit; I'm a grown up father of two, so I'm not going to talk about being broke on the dole, as I'm not.

Plus if you're 6ft 1, you can get away with wearing a suit.

Of course, I have to mention Martin [Fry, Jamie's older brother, lead singer of ABC] and the legend of his suit...

JF: His was quite retro; mine's from Zara. Well, when I put on the suit, I do look like the big brother, but every band Martin and I ever listened to dressed up; like Dexys, Dr. Feelgood and Roxy Music. Me putting the suit on gets everyone going: last Saturday George [a fine drummer with recommended tales of his times in Marion and Electrafixation] wears a military outfit, and then Shinya says 'tonight it's showbiz night Jim' and pulls out a full Kimono and headband, and the twins put on their Clash styled t-shirts.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

one story even more chucklesome was cut from the edit.

― mark e, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Which you're about to sum up for us now. Um, please.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably best not too.
there were reasons it didn't make the final edit.
[fear not ned, wasn't that funny, it was more to do with the manner in which jim told it .. ]

― mark e, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is all just great, thanks Mark!

― British Burrito (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw a bit of the Pre New's set at 1234 on Saturday, think they clashed with someone else I wanted to see so didn't stick around for long but it was pretty good, the bit I saw.

― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

app. jim cut his hand, and the band pissed off the sound crew resulting in vocals being dropped from their set ?

ian harrison @ word wrote it up : http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2010/07/1234_festival_looks_back_to_th.html

― mark e, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

"ian harrison @ word"

mojo not word. doh.

― mark e, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

The sound crew were bloody useless in that tent have to say - they cut the power off for one of the bands earlier in the day.

― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also Peter Hook's Unknown Pleasures was wank.

― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Per grimly fiendish, this is what they do:

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Pre New Anthem lyric snippets

We crash fast cars
We kill pop stars
We eat Mars Bars

We eat Mars Bars

We don't do Voodoo
'Cause we don't have too

BOMB ME
BOMB ME
BOMB ME

this is a classic stomp of a track.

cant wait to hear the recorded version.

the recorded version is better than i ever expected.

― mark e, Friday, 10 September 2010 08:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't all phone at once : http://www.theprenew.com/

made me chuckle.

― mark e, Thursday, 30 September 2010 12:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

another interview

http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts-ents/music-features/the-shock-of-the-nearly-new-1.1059806

― mark e, Thursday, 7 October 2010 09:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

so, all this time on, is there any interest in hearing this in 2011 ?
if yes, i will drop it onto the ILX listening room [ http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR ] as and when people are online to hear it

― mark e, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 09:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is one of the most important and brilliant bands of the 1990s, of course there is interest. take me to your harvester.

― a fierce jet of passion-fruit cream and powdered mint leaves (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

forgive the shameless plug.

final recording by earl brutus, teenage taliban, now available to all.

http://ireallylovemusic.co.uk/blog/?p=1797

― mark e, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nice!

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 June 2011 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

We've got a stream of the Pre-New album for the next couple of days.

It's called Music For People Who Hate Themselves and fans of Earl Brutus will find it very interesting I should imagine.

― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's lovely. Really, really, really good record. Nothing's quite as monumental as Cathedral City Comedown (a MIGHTY statement of intent) or Albion, You've Done Nothing Wrong (although Night On Leather Mountain comes close) but the whole thing is really nicely put together and purveys a particularly aching strain of British melancholia. Even as it rocks the house down.

Not as good as either Earl Brutus album but then I don't think it's intended to be.

― once a week is ample, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

200 copies on cd have been pressed up by the band.

whats left after various folks like me get one are being sold @ rough trade.

it is, of course, fucking brilliant.

― mark e, Friday, 1 June 2012 11:50 (11 months ago) Permalink

Mark
I no longer live anywhere near Talbot Road.
Mail order?

― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 3 June 2012 05:30 (11 months ago) Permalink

"Music for people who hate themselves" heh heh. thumbs up

― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Sunday, 3 June 2012 05:31 (11 months ago) Permalink

@jessie : sorry, no idea as i've never used rough trade, as i am based in the english outback.
if you contact them i'm pretty sure they'll sort something out though ..

― mark e, Sunday, 3 June 2012 12:33 (11 months ago) Permalink

Email from Jim Fry

THE PRE NEW have been nominated by the media as “Best Breakthrough Artist of 2012”

We’re up against musical heavyweights including Lana Del Ray, Alabama Shakes, Savages, Frank Ocean, Alt-J and Emeli Sande.

So do the right thing and vote THE PRE NEW : http://www.festivalawards.com/ for a secure pop future.

Votes need to be in by the end of tis week – please pass this email on.

Luv from Jim x

... not sure they've actually been 'nominated', tbh!

― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 13:59 (6 months ago) Permalink

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ukfa2012

Yeah, they are on the drop-down for "best breakthrough act" on this page.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

haha.

you just know this is one of the gang pulling a favour from an old mate ..

could it be this crimbo i finally release MOD to the wire ..

i'll check with relevant people to see if they give me the all clear

― mark e, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 14:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

this just dropped on tonights playlist ..
damn its ace ..

― mark e, Friday, 17 May 2013 21:01 (2 days ago) Permalink