― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
2nd edition is a prog album. poptones.
a best of the 70s list without yes, floyd, and zeppelin's just a bit autistic, don't you think?
― the ghost of 76, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link
No. metal box is by no means prog. it is post-prog, come on.
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Not easy listening, though. But Levene is hardly wanking. He, even more so than Wobble, is the anchor of that band. Thus, the suckage following his departure...
-- Naive Teen Idol (matthewjweine...), January 8th, 2003.
It's proudly displayed (well, displayed) on my bookcase, but I swear it's been well over 10 years since I've played it. I do remember liking it, although isn't it meant to be boring and/or annoying in places? Also it plays at 45 rpm, doesn't it? I remember reading somewhere that it was funny/cool that it was designed so that you couldn't get the records out without scratching them, but of course you can just turn the package upside down and let them fall out (not at a great height, of course). -- Sean (saturns...), January 8th, 2003.
It's sort've become a post-punk Rosetta Stone of sorts (and I don't mean the lamentable goth band) that is required listening for anyone seeking information about the genre/era, but that doesn't mean it makes for the easiest nor most enjoyable listening experience. I'm glad I own it, I'm glad it exists, it's *INTERESTING* (in much the same way watching a disquieting snuff film or autopsy in interesting), but I'd be fibbing if I said I played it a lot or that it changed my life. I tend to prefer a bit more melodic cohesion in my post-punk, thank you very much, ala Gang of Four, early Killing Joke, Joy Division, et al.Still...."Poptones" and "Swanlake" are uproariously, gloriously ugly in the most intriguing way.
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 8th, 2003.
Erm...I changed my mind!* Metal Box is actually quite brilliant. For some reason it clicked for me this time. Lydon sounds like Gollum. Levene sounds like he's scratching your eyes out. Wobble is implacable (I like that word today). The electronics are genuinely strange, alienating in that way that electronics were back then--you know, they sound like they're wheezing from some big gray mainframe that takes up half a room. The drums are just like, heavy, man. It's a big granite slab of sound rolling over you.
I think my problem was that I bought the album after reading the usual rhetoric about it, and then I didn't hear what I expected to hear based on that rhetoric. I still don't, really... but I like what I hear instead now.
* Well actually, I still think the suburbia-is-conformist stuff is cliched (suppose it wasn't at the time tho) and just wrong, Albatross is a dirge, and it really doesn't have much to do with dub. Even the bass isn't dubby--it's just fat and high in the mix. I only hear about one moment where he plays anything like a dub bassline (midway through Graveyard I think), most of the time it's more rock. And OK, they phase the drums every now and then. But dub is a process more than anything else, and they don't apply that process anywhere--there's no abrupt mixing in and out of instruments, no space in the music (the opposite--it's claustrophobic), no echoing....they're still playing songs, not deconstructing them. Not that it matters, but "avant-garde dub" is one of those phrases that gets thrown around a lot in relation to this album.
-- Ben Williams (benwilliam...), January 9th, 2003.
They should've replaced Lydon with Mrs. Miller: -- hstencil (hstenci...), January 9th, 2003.Great blog. As for me, what Matos said. Either you feel this music in your bones or you don't. Metal Box says everything is NOT going to be alright. It's mocking, too, as if depression or fear were below it, and it makes me feel detached, grooving, fuck everything. The complete antipathy is also highly moral, which sets it apart from the nihilist pigfuck/no wave/goth it inspired. Like Sandinista!, it's more punk than most punk. -- Pete Scholtes (pscholte...), January 11th, 2003.
no-one's topped Beefheart at his own game -- except maybe PiL, and then only once (metal box).-- Tad (llamasfu...), January 20th, 2003.
I heart John Lydon. -- Mary (maj23...), January 8th, 2003.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
it's official!
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― egon krenz (slaytrack), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
points: 7751st place votes: 1total votes: 25
BLONDIE - PARALLEL LINES
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
autistic? what?
― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link
KRAFTWERK - THE MAN MACHINE: Their perfect album. Seemless. Flawless. Not long enough.
THE STOOGES - FUN HOUSE: Amazingly precise in its onslaught.
THE SEX PISTOLS - NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS: Dan stated above that he gets the feeling that its the ultimate "you had to be there" album. I agree. Its sounds dated to me today, but I doubt if I'd be "into" music like I am now without it.
GANG OF FOUR - ENTERTAINMENT: I never understood the "Punk-Funk" moniker, cuz I didn't hear the "funk". But it did make the dancers dance harder, and the non-dancers shake their legs with more abandon.
BUZZCOCKS - SINGLES GOING STEADY: Many of my ideas about pop music stems from this album. SONGS!
PiL - METAL BOX: Timeless. By that I mean that when I first heard it, it sounded from another time. It still does, but I'm not sure if its the future or the past, or something else.
― peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― p.j. (Henry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Classic with reservations - the last two tracks are weak (Gonna Love You Too + Just Go Away)and it lacks the absolute highs of the two previous albums and Eat to The Beat. My favorites are 11.59, Pretty Baby and Sunday Girl. There's nothing as good as X Offender, In The Flesh, Rip Her To Shreds, Out In The Streets, Fan Club, Scenery,I'm Always Touched By Your Presence, Dreaming, Union City Blue, or Atomic on there.
-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), December 2nd, 2002.
reading Please Kill Me, i found it so funny the way that blondie were viewed as the runt of the cbgb's litter, and television used to beat up on them and steal their bassists and stuff, but in the end, it was blondie that had the most long lasting success and widespread appeal. new yorkers are stupid. mwah hah hah. -- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.their best record by miles. still holds up pretty damn well to these ears. would be perfect but for the final track ('just go away') but 11 out of 12's a decent strike rate by any measure. -- angelo (discusdude7...), December 2nd, 2002.
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"i know a girl from a lonely street/cool as ice cream and still as sweet" is the most perfect opening couplets to a pop song ever.the only thing that bugs me about parallel lines are those ugly green mesh and canvas boots that she's lacing up on the back cover.
debbie, debbie, debbie... it's so unlike you to pick unflattering footwear.
-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), December 2nd, 2002.
I listened to this for the first time in, gosh, about 20 years when the remastered CD came out. It sounded way different than I remembered, because all the deadpan chick-fronted guitar-pop bands since Blondie - from the Primitives to Slumber Party - have really spun off from just one aspect of their sound. I was conditioned to hear Parallel Lines that way, but everything was more varied and modulated. Deborah Harry's singing was so demonstrative, it's like she's in a Broadway revue. Each song is a different little character portrait. The drumming was a lot less metronomic than my ears have become accustomed to. -- Curt (curtisgoul...), December 2nd, 2002.
slumber party are HARDLY a "chick fronted guitar-pop band" thank you very kindly. grrrrrrr.one of the things that i always loved most about blondie was their genre-slut style-hopping. blondie albums were like mini-musicals, really. i believe that was quite deliberate.
-- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
points: 8101st place votes: 2total votes: 25
JOY DIVISION - UNKNOWN PLEASURES
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Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures.
I first heard "Unknown Pleasures" in 1992. It's stillthe darkest record I own. The one that demands beinglistened to with all the lights off. Even better, ina cold basement. Curled up in a ball. Listening tothe soothing crackle of the needle on vinyl. Goodtimes. Lonely, troubling, but good nontheless. Onthis album, "Interzone" is what passes for euphoria. "She's Lost Control" is what passes fordancefloor-filling mania. "New Dawn Fades" is pain.
"Unknown Pleasures" is therapy.
Barry Bruner
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link
C/D: Eight-track alternate sequencing?
(as you'd expect, a few other albums on this list are discussed there too)
BLONDIE -- PARALLEL LINES
1 Hanging On The TelephoneHeart Of GlassI'm Gonna Love You Too
2 Picture ThisFade Away And RadiatePretty Baby
3 I Know But I Don't Know11:59Will Anything Happen?
4 One Way Or AnotherSunday GirlJust Go Away
This is also great! The proper track listing drags a bit in the middle during the "Fade Away and Radiate" ... "Will Anything Happen" section. But the eight-track version puts the Big Hits at the beginning and the end ("Heart Of Glass" works MUCH better at the start than tossed randomly into the middle of side two) and mixes things up a little better in the middle.
-- MindInRewind, October 7th, 2004 5:38 PM.
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― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
-- dave q (scrape10...), December 9th, 2001.
I was pretty histrionic back in the day:
i'll just say that maybe _unknown pleasures_ is a classic because it's a masterpiece, just maybe? maybe because stephen morris and peter hook formed rock's greatest rhythm section ever, able to define a song with startlingly fresh repeated lines that bled out of the most basic elements breathtaking possibilities? because crushing parallel-universe-metal riffs could be stripped, crystallized, and frozen to drip like icicles above? maybe because riffs could become drones and vice versa? maybe because of the sparsest, least pop tracks ("candidate," "i remember nothing") where a bare beat and atmospheric samples could house ian curtis's sighs and cries? because that band could bludgeon ("day of the lords"), rage ("shadowplay"), and caress ("insight")? just maybe ian curtis sang like no one else could, using a uniquely non-singerly voice to move from a purr to a sneer to a bellow?
-- sundar subramanian (ssubram...), May 17th, 2001.
In this month's Spin, Andrew Beaujon says of Unknown Pleasures: "If you've only heard 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', peep these Mancs on their sole proper album (?) for what they really were: an incompetent metal band that somehow touched the stars."
― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link
So what happened? Did a lot of people rate Parallel Lines moderately high or did a few people put it as their #1?
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 28 April 2005 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link
points: 8381st place votes: 2total votes: 23
KRAFTWERK - TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link
"Trans-Europe Express", "Man Machine" and "Computer World" are all 5 star and the rest ain't too shabby either.
-- Dadaismus (kcoyne3...), November 2nd, 2004.
Hmm... I'm struggling a bit to find blurbs. Perhaps its a mistake to attempt this before coffee.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:07 (nineteen years ago) link
points: 8731st place votes: 0total votes: 25
TELEVISON - MARQUEE MOON
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― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), May 9th, 2004.
The original LP faded the track. The CD and the remaster let the track conclude to a brilliant ending, adding 2 mins onto the track.
Regards
Television's Marquee Moon influenced a lot of bangladeshis to move to Britain and thus changed English cuisine forever. In the same year, Verlaine also invented the sewing machine. -- Pulpo (pulpopulpissim...), July 10th, 2002.
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
They were both (singles/albums) mailed on March 3rd.
Can my singles be included/checked though? I can resend...
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link
That might be the problem.. I set up ilx70s for the poll because I'm on the Avenue list at elvistears, and I never remember to read it and anything sent there disappears under a tonne of St Etienne rantings.
But I'll put the singles in, yes... its ilx70s@yahoo.co.uk
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 28 April 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 28 April 2005 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link