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There are bands I've been getting into almost instantly at first listen like Velvet Underground or The Smiths and there are others which took me a long time to appreciate. Like Joy Division Roxy Music belong into this group.
My first audio encounter with their singer and main songwriter Bryan Ferry dates back to the summer of 1976. It was the first time I was in a foreign country without my parents and I was in Bournemouth in a guest family. Two songs were everywhere in that very dry & hot English summer: Let's Stick Together by Ferry and Here Comes the Sun by Cockney Rebel. I liked both of them and didn't realize for a long time that Here Comes the Sun was a Beatles cover. Ferry's sleazy crooner's voice was hard to resist and he was good looking too which could impress a thirteen year old.

But somehow for a long time I had a problem to connect the pop singer Ferry to the more experimental and challenging band Roxy Music which was lauded in music critics circles. And I didn't understand what was so special about them. I don't remember the name of the first song by them I ever listened to and it didn't mark me at all but I know that it was in my philosophy class at school around 1979 (our teacher was young). The class was about existentialism and the teacher said that this song was new wave.

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Let's come back to my album of 1972. The cover is the first in a series of sexily dressed women covers. Mauvais goût but in an interesting way. All the women on the first five albums of Roxy Music have in common that they have a stupid artificial expression on their face and that from my point of view their faces are ugly in their false and unapproachable coolness. I suppose that is intended. This is part of the game. It is not the cover that is supposed to turn anyone on. It is just an eye-catcher. A false package if you want. Inside there is one of the most ear-catching records of the seventies. At least it turned me on but it took a long time.

There is a party going on. People talking, tinkling glasses. A seemingly average rock song starts with a kind of bar piano line. Ferry sings forgettable lyrics about the sweetest queen he has ever seen. With his staccato intonation he sounds like the blueprint for David Byrne in the Talking Heads. Phil Manzanera tries to be Jimi Hendrix and he almost succeeds. And suddenly the song takes a turn. The saxophone becomes freestyle, there is some guitar distortion, the piano becomes atonal, the song morphs into a free jazz session. It slows down at the end like as if the record player is plugged off and the speed is slowing down. A nice drum solo and a fireworks noise finish the song.

A lyrical classical oboe theme starts Ladytron. A song for romantic candle-light dinners. But beware this one speeds up. Never trust the beginning of a Roxy Music song. Eno adds some electronic spices to this.

My favourite song is no.3 If There Is Something. The first 90 seconds constitute about the most boring country rock ballad I have ever heard. But when Andy Mackay's sax and later oboe join in and play a new theme everything changes. Suddenly we are in melodramatic land. Ferry sings vibrato as if he had swallowed one gallon of his own tears:

I would do anything for you.
I would climb mountai-ai-ai-ns.
I would swim all the oceans blue.

The theme is repeated by the piano and varied upon. It is really fascinating how the guitar also merges in. All instruments seem to fuse into one. The oboe is reaching heights where no man has ever been. Ferry almost drowns in his tears now. How can a voice sound so desperate from deep inside? The last minute is a tad boring again with the over and over repeated line When you were young but the four minutes in between 1'30'' and 5'30'' are about the most exciting four minutes in any piece of rock I know.

Marginal note: I just read here in the AMG that there is a probably even superior 12 minute (!) live version of this song performed at the John Peel radio show in January 1972. I really need this now.

The next song is Virginia Plain and I think I'll finish now as everyone will know this anyway. As sparkling as rock music can get. I have to add that there is no weak song on this album. That there are two small rock mini-operas The Bob (Medley) and Sea Breeze which piss on Supper's Ready or anything released by The Who in this field. 2 H.B. and the beginning of The Bob foreshadow ambient. And there is Would You Believe? which anticipates the dreadful Rocky Horror Picture Show without its one-dimensionality. The end is Bitters End, the party is over, the girl is gone and has found another and Bryan asks

will someone find me?

This was a party as it should be. It was fun but it was a disappointment as well. A good pretext for another party, don't you think?

P.S. This has been published before on my blog but I didn't get the feedback I wanted to get. That's why I have recycled it here.

-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), February 25th, 2005.


or read the thread: In praise of... the 1st Roxy Music album

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link

48

points: 345
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 11

ROXY MUSIC - FOR YOUR PLEASURE

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

amanda lear is really cool on that cover.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Alright, who's been block voting Roxy Music?

(I got "Stranded" for a pound in Fopp. Havent played it yet)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I got "Stranded" for a pound in Fopp

You jammy get.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link

For Your Pleasure is pretty much my favourite album by anyone,
-- James Ball (james.bal...), November 11th, 2002.

Morrissey
1. For Your Pleasure Roxy Music*
(*Morrissey claims he can only think of one truly great British album and that this is it)

-- ha ha (a...), June 20th, 2004.


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shite
-- autovac (mrichards2...), June 20th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

All I have is For Your Pleasure, but damn is it great. I've actually been listening to the hell out of it lately, and it grows on me a lot with each succeeding listen.
-- Clarke B. (clarkeb...), June 5th, 2001.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, no front cover/booklet though.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Only two things I voted for have made it so far (Einstein and Rumours). I know that at least one more gets in cos I did a blurb, but still. There'd better be some Buzzcocks LPs soon (and please NOT the singles comp).

Jeff W (zebedee), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:57 (nineteen years ago) link

47

points: 348
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

STEVIE WONDER - TALKING BOOK

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i never realized there was one "automatic" top stevie album in that sense. if anything, i'd think SITKOL fits that role, though i've seen any number of his albums called his best by old stodgy canon makers. talking book is my fave.
-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...), February 22nd, 2005.

I agree with those who say that Talking Book is the pinnacle. But he was pretty much untouchable for a good several album run there.
-- o. nate (syne_wav...), February 23rd, 2005.

(from the OPO thread)

talking book by a mile.

-- fact checking cuz (factcheckingcu...), November 11th, 2003.

Talking Book > Innervisions

-- billstevejim (billsteveji...), February 22nd, 2005

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago) link

46

points: 348
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 14

SUICIDE - FIRST ALBUM

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

that's the first of the albums of this thread that at the same time i do not have and that i would like to listen to (and own) right now.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

good winter-time album; walking through the city, surrounded by dirty piles of melting snow - nice soundtrack
-- 6335 (633...), June 20th, 2004.


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It's great to listen to at night while trying to fall asleep. Very unsettling.
-- latebloomer (posercore24...), June 21st, 2004.

i love the space in this album. it's simultaneously huge and claustrophobic, droning and jittering. it'll make you laugh. it'll make you cry. it'll make you come out of the theatre wanting to conquer the world. it's definitely my pick for top romantic comedy of the year.
-- Felonious Drunk (wangchungvsah...), June 21st, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

45

points: 352
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

MILES DAVIS - ON THE CORNER

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link

to me, it pointed at the future of how not jazz, but popular music itself would be made. all loops and punched in bits of 'sound' over melody, emphasising rhythm and groove. peep timbaland et al. and the way production dictates everything else. on headphones, the sound of everything being punched in here is overwhelming. i don't think pro-tools has birthed anything as complex.
-- Beta (andybet...), June 9th, 2004.

I didn't get this album until after I had gotten into Can and a lot of electronic dance music - it really seems to be along those lines rather than 'jazz', or even the other Miles fusion records. In a way, it's coming out of Silent Way a lot more than Bitches Brew or Jack Johnson, in the way it was constructed, and the way it gradually unfolds. Right now, I think it's one of the best albums he ever made.
-- dleone (d_leon...), June 9th, 2004.

It's fantastic, by far my favourite of his. It set the benchmark for music for the next 30 years (and beyond), most of the possiblities contained in these grooves haven't even been explored yet.
-- Billy Dods (butterbubble...), June 9th, 2004.
I was expecting something that would need repeat listening before it sounded like music, and instead got a dense but immediately enjoyable slab of energetic funk that doesn't seem any more difficult than, say, James Brown's more abstract live stuff. I'm still baffled by its reputation as Miles's least accessible album.


-- frankiemachine (franki...), June 10th, 2004.

the thing noone has mentioned is how environmental the record is. it's very 'electronic forest,' particularly the last track. i get lost in it.
-- milesrules (mile...), June 16th, 2004.

On the Corner was my first Miles Davis album. My initial reaction was to take it back to the shop, but I like it now. Sort of.
-- PJ Miller (pjmiller6...), June 10th, 2004.


Miles' "On the Corner"

Just one question - what does it mean to be "very electronic forest"?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

44

points: 358
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

CURTIS MAYFIELD - SUPERFLY

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link

that's the only soul/funk album i love wholeheartedly.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Curtis Mayfield, Superfly: "Little Child Runnin' Wild", "Pusherman", "Freddie's Dead". Opening a soundtrack with three of the ten best R&B songs ever (in any definition of the genre) in a row is one hell of a feat.
-- Nate Patrin (natepatrin550...), April 12th, 2003.

better than Maggot Brain if not Riot--nothing on earth is better than Riot--and does just about the same things as both)
-- M Matos (michaelangelomato...), February 27th, 2003.

Go for the Superfly soundtrack, an awesome piece of blaxploitation-funk

-- Patrick (calimer...), May 11th, 2001.

I once walked into a local bar exactly on the opening note of Curtis Mayfield's "Superfly"!!! I felt like they were finally making the movie of my life. I know - I'm a DORK but it was very cool.

-- wallace carothers (wallacecarothersrepentenc...), February 17th, 2004

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

**that's the first of the albums of this thread that at the same time i do not have and that i would like to listen to (and own) right now.**

It's pretty rubbish, but at the same time interesting. Don't rush out and get it.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

If/When a Buzzcocks album comes up I fervently hope that it's 'A Different Kind Of Tension'. But it won't be.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

43

points: 363
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

STEVE REICH - MUSIC FOR 18 MUSICIANS

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that's the cover of a later edition.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I like a lot of early Reich and don't imagine I'll ever stop responding to stuff like Music for 18 Musicians
-- Lee G (lgardne...), November 7th, 2002.

5 yrs ago) I borrowed 18 musicians from the library and my first thought was 'There's so much music out there'. Well, it made an impression as I was on a diet of guitar and more guitar and... more guitar based music. But I've heard really brilliant and mind-blowing composition since and SR's been left behind.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), January 1st, 2002.

as for steve reich,i saw music for eighteen musicians performed live recently and it was great
two things sprung to mind-first of all,how much it sounded like susumu yokota
secondly,you could tell that he had "influenced" (it's seven in the morning and i'm not arsed trying to find a way of phrasing that in such a way as to avoid people complaining about the use of that term,just pretend i did)techno,or more specifically surgeon...

-- robin (robin_lace...), April 24th, 2003.

The ECM version (yes it has to be this one, the pacing and tension are jawdropping) of Music for 18 Musicians is sublime, eternal, terrifyingly beautiful sound.
-- Clarke B. (clarkeb...), April 13th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

It's pretty rubbish, but at the same time interesting.
i know that. but it's the kind of rubbishness i am attracted to. a cool, trashy(!) rubbishness. i really love alan vega's voice. it sounds like god's voice if god were an atheist.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

(Not just edition but later recording.)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

The ECM cover:

http://www.kitanet.ne.jp/~oikawa/jkt/music_for_18_musicians.jpg

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

42

points: 381
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 12

TALKING HEADS - MORE SONGS ABOUT BUILDINGS AND FOOD

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

more songs about girlfriends and dudes

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

TALKING HEADS - MORE SONGS ABOUT BUILDINGS AND FOOD

This was my #1 album pick. It stills sounds fresh today, and I can imagine a four piece band playing it. Even though the Talking Heads pulled off their larger bands (Fear of Music, Remain in Light) live, the flow and hooks of their second album could be imagined as played in a small, veryvery exciting, club.

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I love this album. Talking Heads had a really unique outlook which didn't really start to get dark till Fear of Music, so it's positive with a signs of paranoia surfacing here and there. It just feels right to me. Musically, it feels as open/progressive to me as Joy Division or Magazine or any of the most innovative post-punk groups. The sense of rhythm is intense and joyful and proficient despite a kid-picking-up-a-guitar-for-the-first-time enthusiastic air. -- Sonny A. (newaddres...), June 3rd, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

More Songs About Buildings And Food > Remain In Light > Speaking In Tongues > Fear Of Music > Naked > '77 > Little Creatures > True Stories
-- nickalicious (nickaliciou...), August 10th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

yay for steve reich. if i'd voted, it'd be even higher.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

41

points: 384
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 14

NEIL YOUNG - ON THE BEACH

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it's very comparable to any of his other records. Yeah, it always gets lumped in with others as part of his "Dark Period", but a song like "Revolution Blues" is probably one of the most st8 ahead rock tracks he ever did and the title track is a prototype for Slint's Spiderland (or, keeping with NY's own work, "Like A Hurricane" and "Cortez the Killer", only more subtle). There's three different batches of songs, done with three different producers/line-ups, so it doesn't really have a same-y feeling throughout that would let you compare it to the other albums.


Ah, what the Hell, I'll just say it's a more rockin' Tonight's The Night, for argument's sake.

-- Vic Funk (doctor_funk_ph...), May 14th, 2003.

Homegrown and Bite the Bullet are two of my favorite songs on the record! Nothing like a bunch of stoned, mean hippies playing thud-rock. I don't get the bad rep for ASB either, I definitely prefer it Zuma and Comes a Time... the country songs are nice and sweet, the rockers are smokin', and it's got one of his bonafide signature tunes, what more could you ask for?
-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), May 14th, 2003.


hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

This may be just me, but I'm keen for the Singles poll results...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

40

points: 391
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 12

GRAM PARSONS - GRIEVOUS ANGEL

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I am currently trying to find any comments on this that are both more than a few words long and reasonably appreciative. Perhaps someone would like to provide on here and save me the bother win the appreciation of all those reading.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of comments look more like this:

Grievous Angel? More like grievous listener! (for having to listen to this terrible album!)
-- christhamrin (hamr004...), April 10th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

*won't you scratch my itch sweet Annie Rich
and
wel~come me back to town*

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's now safe to say that I have very little in common with the rest of ILM when it comes to the 70s.

Still, look forward to seeing the top.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

39

If you're experiencing a sense of deja-vu, its just your imagination.
Running away with you.

points: 400
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 14

WIRE - CHAIRS MISSING

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

154 is 68, you know...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Pink Flag = "Oh, wow!" (uttered after first 3 songs)

Chairs Missing = "HOLY SHIT!" (realized about the time "Mercy" finishes)


-- David Raposa (dave...), January 8th, 2002.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

should be even higher than that, but it's still much better than #68.

Surprised that it hasn't started topping Pink Flag in polls like this yet--I thought more and more people were coming around to the notion of it being the superior album.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

154 is 68, you know...

I think this is an increasingly widely perceived cosmic truth.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

38

points: 400
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 11

STEVIE WONDER - SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Impressive. Looks like Big Star and Wire will both have all three of their 1970s albums in the poll. Not surprising, but still cool to see.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link

re: Songs In The Key Of Life

This album was second in the early stages of the poll, and I hoped it would place slightly higher than this. This is far and away my favourite Stevie Wonder album. Sprawling, and perhaps a little unfocussed like the Summer's day it should accompany.
There are moments on this album which feel nothing short of blissful. The bigger songs - the distilled joy of Sir Duke and the perhaps-too-widely-played-but-still-glorious Isn't She Lovely - tend to catch the attention on first play, but with subsequent listens you're gladly pulled under as the waves of "Knocks Me Off My Feet" wash on over. If I ever had to drown in an album, well, no, that would be a silly idea...and Stevie wouldn't like that. Its not an album for disappearing under, its one for [insert a better metaphor here if you can think of one - I'm not entirely happy with this one] flying up into the cosmos behind, or within. Even songs dealing with loss - Ordinary Pain and Joy Inside My Tears manage to undermine a slightly mawkish tendency with a brutal honesty:

"I've always thought that tomorrow was for those/ Who are too much afraid/ To go past yesterday and start living in today".

That feeling recurrs throughout the proceedings. Get your ass out of the gutter, try and bring your mind with it, and enjoy it while you're here. Life, that is. But if you want to enjoy your ass, who am I to stop you?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Songs In The Key of Life? At least it's the longest
-- Kenan Hebert (edito...), November 11th, 2003.

The ballads, like on any other Stevie Wonder album, are the best tracks on "Songs In The Key Of Life". Those beautiful melodic ballads are the main reason why I love Stevie Wonder. R&B crap such as "Superstition" you may just throw in the dustbin.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), November 11th, 2003.


I like a pretty good chunk of his stuff (early '70s mostly), but I really can't wrap my head around Songs in the Key of Life. I'm too used to him in WHOMP WHOMP mode ("Do Yourself A Favor"; "Superstition"; "Livin' For the City") when he brings out those robo-Motown inflections to go for that Quincy Jones-incidental-theme steez save "Sir Duke", "Contusion" and "All Day Sucker".
-- Stupornaut (natepatri...), February 22nd, 2005.


hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link


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