Progressive House / Trance Mixes - S/D

* Max Graham - Transport
* Brad Copeland - Live set at Surface
* this MONSTER set from Hybrid:
http://www.hybridized.org/sets/?id=130

I used to listen to a bunch of this stuff, and these are the main ones I still like.

Sasha & Digweed - Northern Exposure: Expeditions
Sasha - Global Underground 013: Ibiza

http://www.discogs.com/release/263404

Disc 1:
01. Kayot - One Night In Cuba (Intro Edit)
02. Audiomontage - Naughty Neighbour
03. Eddie Richards - MíBaby
04. Weekender - Sunday Session
05. Alex Kid - Pick It Up
06. Soul Edge - Wormhole (Throatcutters EP)
07. Lil Mike - Space Cadet
08. Mish Mash - Speechless (Three's 'Lost In Translation' Mix)
09. Trick & Kubik Feat Valeska - Easy
10. Shirley Lites - Heat You Up (Melt You Down) (Gerd's '4 Lux' Mix)
11. Harold Heath - Long Relationships (Asad Rizvi Mix)
12. Wighnomy Bros - Wombat
13. Timewriter - Lion Steps
14. Davina - Don't You Want It
15. Underground Resistance - Transitions
16. Vincenzo & Steve Ferrand - Love The Madness
17. Pepe Braddock - Deep Burnt

Disc 2:
01. Paolo Mojo - Ruckus (Original Extended Mix)
02. Solar Sides - Midnight Mood (No Sax Please I'm British Edit)
03. Oscar - The Drum (Version Hypnotique)
04. Paolo Mojo - Ruckus (Buick Project Mix)
05. House Of Black Dress - Say It (Nathan Larsen's 06 Rework)
06. Paolo Mojo - Everybody (Cass & Mangan Mix)
07. The Vanisher - The Tic-Tac Tactic (Osborne's 'Simulacrum' Mix)
08. Der Dritte Raum - Raumzeit
09. Inner City - Say Something (Sebastian Leger Mix)
10. Foremost Poets - Moonraker (Accapella)
11. Robert Owens - I'll Be Your Friend
12. Nathan Fake - The Sky Is Pink (Icelandic Version)
13. Deee-Lite - Good Beat (Accapella)
14. Ada - Maps (Michael Mayer & Tobias Thomas Mix)
15. Michel De Hey - Camera (Funk DíVoid Mix)
16. Sascha Funke - 2 B Original
17. Petter - Modern Eternity
18. Sebastien Tellier - La Ritournelle

that doesn't look like prog house/tech mix at all, actually

I miss Siegbran :(

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I'm trying to make a mix and I find myself looking tracks up in discogs to see how old then are and then snapping out of it: it's a good track. Don't give in to that it's gotta be new consumerist disease!

He also played Wighnomy Brothers: Wurz + Blosse twice! wtf?

I dunno what to say really. Michael Mayer DJing = vibe, flow, and shock of the new. Superpitcher = bunch of his favorite tracks.

How long do you usually get in the US?

these days he gets booked at smallish glitzy clubs i totally loathe -- cielo, canal room -- so i just stay away. i've seen him play out enough times without having to deal with bitchy bouncers, mandatory coat check, bottle service, vip areas, and all the other attendant bullshit that goes with those types of places. canal room looks like a fuckin' hotel lobby, for chrissakes. white walls and leather couches and palm fronds and everything. and a gin and tonic is like, $10 or $11. i'd way rather see a local dj play in a basement.

It was kinda the same in Germany but when I went to London I noticed... an attitude or something. Is it only English-speaking countries that that velvet rope stuff goes on? I hear Richie Hawtin got put in a headlock and thrown out of the club in Miami this year for some reason or another. It's such a shame you can't go out and have a good night in NY without dealing w/ that rubbish.

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I met a guy from NY who complained a bit about this.

What are the names of the underground places you can hear techno and do they have good sound systems?

This weekend we're going to see Mathias Tanzmann at a new club and it's geeky i know but i want to hear whether their system cuts it!

most OTM thing evah. i think i spent about $9 on a whiskey sour when i was last there. also yeah, his panoramabar set sounded so much different than his canal room set did, way more..expansive, i guess?

bottle service is when people pay far too much money ($200 or $300, say) for a bottle of alcohol and some fruit juice and access to a roped off vip area. so you can feel special i guess. there are whole bars/clubs that revolve around the bottle service mentality. it's easy enough to stay away, but sometimes it's unavoidable that you run into these ridiculous dweebs at yr club of choice.

my dream is to get eulberg, villalobos and mayer playing here:

http://www.imsy.demon.co.uk/vbt/67%20forgemasters.jpg

sheffield is great for grimy industrial basements and factories...just need $$$$ to get people to play here!

www.eclex.bravehost.com

Probably a silly question but are there rigid distinctions between progressive house and trance? I ask because I was searching for this terrific screed from Simon Reynolds where he blasts trance. But it turned out he was blasting progressive house instead. Then I remembered my favorite progressive house track was Gypsy's "I Trance You" (which some would call trance? maybe...doesn't seem correct, though). Anyhoo, thoughts?

The Simon screed is here. Just scroll down a bit.

have always thought of Trance as being faster and, well, less progressive...but being from '92 and before the divisions were really established 'I Trance You' is a bit of an anomaly - as 'slow' as most House from the time plus includes breakbeats.

I think in 92/92 the lines were blurred indeed. You had these great 'Trance' compilations from Rumour records and all the Guerilla records that were probably early progressive house. Then the two genres definitely 'split' and you got the cheesy trance peddled by the likes of Ferry Corsten et al and the overlong, nothing really happens for fourteen minutes progressive house tracks championed by the likes of Sasha & Digweed

That first Sasha & Digweed Renaissance Mix is still ace though

if nothing really happens for 14 minutes then it clearly wasn't prog-house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqvmpuXzSc&feature=player_embedded

I'm getting increasingly curious about the original class of 91-94 progressive house. Mostly because Simon Reynolds declared it anathema, and that hardcore was the one true bolshevik rave option. I want to get my middlebrow on, if anyone will indulge me. Feels like early trance left a lot weird little trends behind when it got mainstream.

That and I'm very very bored with most house right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duYIZA7u-ho&feature=player_embedded

Some of this stuff is really weird, ravey breakbeats and all manner of "bad taste" layered with things I actually like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ffMGwOE7ZeQ

Like these guys, completely unknown to me, I was all of 6 years old in 92.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n--zJCzs9wo&feature=player_embedded

In retrospect it's bizarre how much overlap there was between the Warp artist roster and early trance compilations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edS4urkN9Pc&feature=player_embedded#!

Even some of early Juno Reactor sounds more like decent techno than terrible psy.

I got all of these from a DJ History Forum thread btw, if anyone wants to point me at more it'd be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L93YoPG1Wt0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Nha7nRt4&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGbLBTZPRU&feature=player_embedded

The line between "progressive house" and "breakbeat hardcore" was really slippery back then, funny since Simon popularized both labels.

What this music was initially : acid house with dub basslines, is entirely my thing. What it turned into: Sasha and Digweed crap, is entirely not.

eh none of this stuff is very good actually, let it rest in the dustbin of history

well that's not entirely true, i got a soft spot for JBO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuOo3SvHvlk&feature=related

in general it's too corny sounding though, you might as well put on like utah saints or whatever and have actual cheese whiz out of the can as opposed to like a fake-fancy grocery store cheese log

can't listen to other stuff right now, but i will say that those holy ghost inc records are truly wicked

It's sort of right between what's tolerable and what's a little too cheesy, but a couple of those Holy Ghost tracks are indeed pretty good.

And I like that RAC track quite a bit, reminds me of the nicer end of electrobreaks. More of my sordid past effecting my taste, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmYfzD0Bm4

Things were happening in a very similar manner on the West Coast at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzutrE85HZw

If I had to list off the early trance that I actually like it would be: The Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia, and Jam and Spoon, the Coil tracks that flirted with trance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHH-ex99Xys

The West Coast stuff strays too far into hippie Burner territory, and the UK stuff ended up with the late 90s prog hegemony.

Still I've got this feeling there's some stuff worth digging up, if only to satisfy my curiosity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrumV_CsfXc

I like everything that lead up to the Dutch scene, New Beat and Balearic mixed from what I can tell. And then rave hits and everything drops off a cliff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rw3ZBRtb7U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Mmw5cnum4

Its a Derrick May track, with samples! I think I bought this one for 50 cents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_t7CPXRo6g

This is Mr. Shakir, apparently it got some play at the Loft, so did those Holy Ghost tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RONhfRXGMHM

Man, did rave music ever twist techno into some strange shapes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgICbO7fDIc&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwB56gb7dc&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5lRlFUHZH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihvIUqehaw

I honestly don't know what this is, it's Move D but I'd say its definitely more in line with Mouse on Mar's Vulvaland or early minimal techno.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPANiWSLF9o&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKk7VEQv7ec

I'm looking for stuff that is legitimately trance inducing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4DVJ7emUQ

This is Plaid and Jonah Sharp, Reflective was a really strange label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h6N10MGqqg&feature=related

I think Mike Banks would beat me up if I compared his music to progressive house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bOVBQHKk0lU#!

OK, I think my love of the Black Dog is showing through here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRyf6kKxgy8&feature=related

And I'm going to sleep.

Dunno how well it fits here, but early 90s housey trance is my thing, I practically grew up with that shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyKEeT14YVA

This was an utter classic back then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YakZl5Y5f2Y

As well as this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqfeEa83nmc

I think a lot of this stuff has aged much better than cheesy UK hardcore from the same era; "Sacred Cycles", for example, still sounds sublime.

Then there's Air Liquide, of course - my favourite 90s electronic act of them all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEmPOw6ZlgY

This shit still sounds majestic!

i love this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8iacryQGt4&ob=av2e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplbC2d-0N4&feature=related

Air Liquide seems to be right up there with PWOG for that weird Euro rave techno feel. Stuff where I'm not sure if its IDM or trance or what exactly.

Yeah, between 1992 and 1995 AL released stuff ranging from banging acid techno to cosmic trance to weird breakbeat excursions (like the track that sample Cypress Hill) to straight beatless ambient, sometimes on the same record. I'd recommend acquiring pretty much anything they released in that period, it's all good. Or if you want just one record, The Increased Difficulty Of Concentration comp is a good overall look to to their sound; it's neatly divided between a dance and a non-dance disc. In the late 90s they went electro though, IMO their post-'95 material is decent but mostly forgettable.

feeling profound gratitude for what this music is doing for my morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4EfwOUTztI

progressive house is so boring. not enough melody to be catchy. not enough rhythm to move. fades immediately to the background. every time i sample a dj's progressive house set i hear danny wolfers saying "wanky white boy music" in my head.

no it's nice

i don’t think that prog house is boring, it’s just that when it’s boring (which is often) it’s boring to a greater degree
it’s easier to listen to a boring techno mix than a boring prog house mix