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There are a couple threads touching on Tropicalia, but nothing devoted to evaluation of the specific movements/artists. Having just finished the Veloso book I've been digging a little deeper into this stuff than I first did several years ago courtesy of Wendy Chien/Aquarius and the "Tropicalia" comp. Unlike other similar localized musical "movements" (British psych, Madchester, grunge, etc.) there doesn't seem to be any question of what is/isn't Tropicalia, perhaps by virtue of it being such a concisely planned and executed venture. It seems like it should be relatively simple to come up with a "canon", as the movement was so well circumscribed and so short-lived. As such, I'm currently trying to pretty much collect it all, let's have some opinions:

Caetano Veloso - s/t ('68) and s/t ('69)
Os Mutantes - s/t ('68), Mutantes ('69), and the Comedia del Arte or whatever it's called
Gal Costa - s/t ('68), s/t ('69)
Gilberto Gil - s/t ('68), s/t ('69)
Tropicalia compilation

I imagine there should be some Tom Ze in here as well, but I'm not sure what... anything else missing? (All the eponymous albums make this discussion a little problematic...)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have all of those records and I've never felt the need to buy more haha.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

has that famous original tropicalia comp ever been reissued on cd?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

well am I right in thinking that's pretty much all there is to it? it's kind of a pain finding those Gal albums... I seem to remember seeing reissues all the time just a few years ago.

the comp has been reissued, a few times I think.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Which Gal albums? I thought both were pretty easy to find.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

the two s/t listed above. Amoeba and Aquarius don't have 'em. the prices vinyl copies fetch on GEMM are fucking ridiculous.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think you can still find them on Dusty Groove.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Woops or not. Hmmn. Well I guess they are OOP now.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

You might want to check out the pre-Tropicalia record Eu Vim De Bahia by those artists less Os Mutantes plus Caetano's sister, Maria Bethania. But, like I said, it's pre-Tropicalia, so it might seem a little tame. It's pretty good though.

― Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

what about Tom Ze's "Grande Liquidacao"? from the same time period, contains "Parque Industrial", certainly has a great cover... anyone have any opinions on it?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Charles Perrone's book Masters of Contemporary Brazilian song is a good book with chapters on both Veloso and Gil. Both chapters have nice studies of some of their tropicalia-era lyrics with translations.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

My two favorite Gil songs are on "the manifesto album" (Tropicalia: Ou Panis et Circensis): "Geleia Geral" and "Miserere Nobis." I don't know if these are on other albums of his or other comps.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

my knowledge of tropicalia is very patchy at best (how is that book, btw?) but every single Tom Ze album except for that dance piece he did and Fabrication Defect have destroyed me (Fabrication Defect was cool but it was the first I heard and didn't convert me). The Continental reissues volume 14 were sort of lifechanging for me. anyone heard this new one...estudando o pagode? Jogos de Armar didn't leave my player for months when it came out.

― william fields, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think there is also a Joyce album and a Nara Leao album done Tropicalia style (perhaps with the guy who produced the rest of these records, I don't remember his name.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Rogerio Duprat

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Caetano Veloso - Araca Azul

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

That's it. I knew it was Rogerio.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Where do Som Imaginario fit in? The one I have Mantaca Do Porco blows my mind. I guess they made one other one and I'm DYING to hear it!

Did anybody else buy that Tropicalia box set? It was the first Costa, Gil, Veloso and Mutantes albums, along with the Tropicalia compilation, boxed together with a booklet.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

I bought it. It's great.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

And dirt cheap too. Like $50 from Dusty Grooves.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

the Veloso book is pretty great, very informative, and lots of great tidbits (and amazing photos). However, there was something about his POV that's a little off-putting for me - I guess I wasn't expecting him to be such an academic. He seems to evaluate music (and by extension other aspects of popular culture) from a kind of distance, as if its all just conflicting movements, aesthetics, ideologies, etc. without real people behind them. Which to me is rather strange for someone w/Veloso's past. or maybe not.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Milton Nascimento - s/d - "Clube da Esquina" ('72) fucking slays me. so beautiful.

Joyce & Nelson Angela and the s/t Arthur Verocai both are very similar to this.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

also, the first Rita Lee album was pretty much a Mutantes album (they all worked on it). most of it is less wacky than their albums (lots of strings), but the last track freaks out a bit.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

Gilberto Gil - "1969" and "Expresso 2222" are so freaked out. way more than the s/t album found in the box set.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 23:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

i REALLY want the Tom Zé where the cover has a picture of a marble resting on an asshole (it looks more like an eyeball). i've got the Luaka Bop sampler of his and he gets into some freaky stuff w/crazy sound effects (blenders?), but the only single album of his i have is Grande Liquidacao, which is rather pretty, but rather tame. no crazy effects at all. great album though. i also have some more current ones. Com Defeito de Fabricacao [Fabrication Defect] - actually not bad, the remix cd even had a cool track or two. i had Jogos de Armar, but with a different cover from the amg listed one and thought it was really boring.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

here's the cover i was talking about

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love this stuff immoderately. Seems to me the Hip-O "Tropicalia Essentials" does a real good job of summing the movement up. I'm light on Tom Ze stuff, though, need to get his records. I'm more of a Gil fan than I am a Veloso fan, myself. I agree xpost on the comment about his book "Tropical Truth." It's great but there's this distance, for sure.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

jaxon i have that 2-album comp! and another one on the same label! you want i should make copies for you?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

hey, I just got the new tom ze today, "Estudando O Pagode". It is completely bananas, dustygroove has it in now. also "imprensa cantada" from 2003, which is much different but still incredible.

here's a yousendit of what I think is the best track, "Elaeu"

http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ER1QRCEAAYWJ3PDMWH0PPN00Z

― b'angelo, Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

Nice, I didn't know there was a new Tom Zé album. His "Se o Caso é Chorar" hasn't been mentioned and is flawless.

― jordache, Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

slocki, what's the music like? is it on the wackier, experimental sound effects side of his stuff or straight songs or a mixture?

(ps, did you ever get in contact w/my friend?)

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

i'm not even sure why i want it, i think it's just because the cover is so funny

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jason. I also have that Tom Ze CD - I bought it in Tokyo at an insane record store called Manual of Errors http://www.manuera.com - maybe you could buy a copy off them. Failing that, Third World Music, also in Tokyo, has a ridiculously good Brazilian mail order thing going on. It's possibly the best selection of Brazilian music anywhere in the world, in my opinion, including Brazil! I can't find their web address at the moment; if you try googling various permutations of the shop name and the owner's name - Kepel Kimura - you might have more luck.

― Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

I would add Gal & Caetano Domingo to your canon as that is kinda like the beginning in my mind. Plus, it rules. Also, Jorge Ben's s/t from 1969. There are others that are great that I am forgetting right now. I know there's Nara Leao album in this vein. Check out the slipcue site, it's helped me dozens of times decide what to buy next.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jorge Ben's Africa Brasil too. Totally great.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

Also, there is a great website located in Brazil where you can order these records. Kinda the Brazil Amazon. I know it was linked from ilm before, or at least mentioned. I'll try to find it. I think Amateur1st was the one who mentioned it -- maybe on a Nara Leao thread?

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ah found it: http://somlivre.globo.com/

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 13:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'll second Africa Brasil and Tom Ze (his first 3 albums)...also, seek out some Elis Regina (not really Tropicalia, but a lot of her songs were penned by Tropicalia guys)

― Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

I need to get some. Where do I start?

― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 31 March 2005 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

Start here

or here maybe?

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ou Panis et Circencis was what I was thinking.

― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't start with the Caetano album pictured above. Better to go with A Arte De Caetano Veloso--great anthology.

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

but Tropicalia as an actual entity and movement dissolves when, in '69? so while Araca Azul and Africa Brasil and Club de Esquina and Todos os Olhos are great great records (though my favorite Ze is the one with barbed wire on it), they are not "Tropicalia," and that's not really the topic at hand, is it? i mean, i could pile on Novos Baihanos and Lula Cortes and Joyce and Lo Borges and Arthur Verocai, but that's just falling under MPB then.
i guess the general rule is to go with the faces on "Panis et Circencis," no? which would include that Lara Neao disc, which is quite straight, more so than the Caetano e Gal disc from '67.
and i'll second the excellent Charles Perrone book on MPB, though it is far out of print now. excellent analysis of Gil, Veloso, as well as Nascimento, Buarque, and Bosco.

― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

I hear ya and you're probably right, I just think of those Ben & Domingo records along the same lines. Domingo is very pretty & straight bossa nova, but it's the meeting of the minds, so to speak, and I wrongly think of it as tropicalia. It's true that there are relatively few artists/records that are truly tropicalia, it's a finite group. I think they've all been named.

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

okay then, to stick to Shakey Mo's original post: just add the first Tom Ze disc and the Nara Leao and that's basically the entire arc of Tropicalia. The Leao is the least essential (and least Tropicalist to these ears). Most crucial is everything else. Gal's '69 is not only the most out, but would rank with any weird psych of any artist, of any time, of any era. Monstrous. whenever i play any of those tunes for newbies (to people not at all familiar with MPB), it blows minds.

― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think the subject of what's MPB, tropicalia, and bossa is a bit confusing to most Americans? Seems like someone around here ought to come up with a book proposal that sorts it all out. If I had the resources, I'd love to do it. True, Elis Regina did Gil tunes real early on--"Roda" and "Lunik 9," and did some great covers of his stuff later on in the '70s (in fact, I wonder if some compiler could get a great CD of "Elis Sings Gil," wouldn't be any worse than the endless repackagings of her stuff). The movement does seem to have lasted maybe three years, bounded on the one end by the '67 recordings by Veloso and Gil and their arrest and departure for London in '69?

And I sure wish someone would do an English-language bio of Elis Regina, who's incredibly uneven as a recording artist, but certainly great and worthy of a book? But it's so tough selling those kind of books--I know that the bossa nova book by Castro didn't sell all that well, under 10,000 I think, ditto the excellent Cuba book by Ned Sublette (my friend at A Cappella edited those). And I've worked as a publishers' rep for music-book houses, so I know it's tough myself. Has anyone pitched that 33 1/3 series books on, say, "Gilberto Gil" (1968) or "Elis and Tom" or "Africa/Brasil"? Those all seem worthy. I'm just such a fan of this stuff, and so convinced it's something Americans should be much more aware of, both for musical reasons and for perspective on how bad things can be in a society obsessed with "order" and all that...and too bad that Perrone book is OP, too.

― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

okay, so I got a bunch of the solo albums I had to order from Brazil thru Gemm (Caetano s/t albums, first Gilberto s/t album) and now I'm wondering - is everything on the Tropicalia comp taken from other records? I was under the impression some of those tracks had been recorded specifically for that comp - the version of Bat Macumba, for example, is quite different from the one that appears on the Os Mutantes debut album...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Rita Lee - Build Up

― mucho, Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

okay, answered my own question about the Tropicalia comp (no, that stuff isn't all from other records)... now I'm looking for the two Gal Costa Mercury records. Gemm is only listing vinyl copies for $215(!) which is insane. The CDs seem to be out-of-print, aren't available at Dusty Groove, etc. Anyone got any tips where I can find this stuff? Kinda wish I'd bought those reissues several years ago when I first saw them....

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 25 April 2005 16:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

re the gal costa albums, gygax has them and he's been promising me copies of them for a while now

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

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i've been working on a track with sergio dias which we will perform before os mutantes play their set. basically i have written the backing and sergio has written lyrics which he will sing and also add some guitar parts. if we have enough time to rehearse beforehand some other members of the band will contribute parts to it too. i will also be playing records.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

ps - i kind of wish it hadn't been billed like that. i may get lynched by the tropicalia purists.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

nah, they'll love it, stirmonster. sounds great.

can't seem to find the tracklist for the new Universal Latino comp--anyone got it? does anyone else feel as though the (excellent) Soul Jazz comp might get outside of tropicália proper, with the Jorge Ben track for example? the Hip-O Tropicália Essentials is OP, I guess, and a real good one-disc overview.

― whisperineddhurt, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

Caetano Veloso's first three solo albums are self-titled!

― jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oops, many xposts. to Nick S.

― jim, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Great thread! I've been looking for more places to branch out in my exploration of Tropicalia music, and this thread has given me a lot of ideas. Like a lot of people, I guess it was the Soul Jazz comp from last year that kicked my interest into high gear (I did already have the first Os Mutantes album, but that one hadn't spurred me on in quite the same way, though it is good). Since then, I've picked up one each solo album by Gilberto Gil and Caetano Veloso, both excellent. Obviously there's still quite a bit more out there.

― o. nate, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Btw, don't know if people have seen this, but it's apparently a clip from Brazilian TV from 1968 with Gilberto Gil performing with Os Mutantes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbv3M-AdxC0

― o. nate, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

the guy at my fave record store has a copy of the brilliant first album by Secos e Molhados and won't sell it to me. he keeps playing it in store and everyone wants it, but so does he. they're pretty much a funky Os Mutantes. a bit of googling turns up mp3s of their first 2 albums.

― jaxon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrxFusyX6ds&mode=related&search=

― jaxon, Thursday, 5 July 2007 22:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

Dusty has the CD of the first two albums in stock for $9.99 and yeah, it's excellent.

― Stormy Davis, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Brazilian music is really just a bottomless pot of riches. been collecting to stuff for years and still continually find out about new things to investigate ... almost every album I pick up has something to recommend it.

― Stormy Davis, Friday, 6 July 2007 00:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

i picked up that first secos e molhados in sao paulo earlier in the year. so good! good to see the 2nd one is on cd.

― stirmonster, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Another clip of Os Mutantes (and I think there's a glimpse of Tom Ze in the audience):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2EKghlmIyQ&mode=related&search=

― o. nate, Friday, 6 July 2007 01:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Stir - do you know whether the show at the Forum ends at 11 or later? It seems like a lot of stuff to fit in if it ends early.

I'm trying to persuade some people to come and it doesn't seem to say on the trocabrahma website.

― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's on until 2am (possibly 3).

― stirmonster, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Just saw this today:

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Jardim Elétrico: A Tribute to Os Mutantes

FORMAT: CD
RUNNING TIME: 64' 34''
CATALOGUE: MDCP054
TRACKS: 15
DATE OF RELEASE: JULY 21st, 2007
EXTRAS: Insert poster drawn by Arnaldo Baptista from Os Mutantes, plus booklet by Black Arrow Studio & Press (US).

Since the early Nineties, Os Mutantes finally gained recognition as one of the most original, bizarre band coming from Brasil during the psychedelic era. Thanks to the support of fans like Kurt Cobain, David Byrne and Beck, the Mutantes legend spread and their music, effortless mixing pop and experimentalism that’s both playful and weird, suddenly reaching new audiences.At last the impact made by Arnaldo Baptista, Sergio Dias and Rita Lee on future generations became clear. Now a bunch of musicians hailing from countries as diverse as Italy, United States, Brasil and United Kingdom, gather together on this disc to celebrate the wild imagination and the outstanding power of the Mutantes' songs. Nothing less than a labour of love, "Jardim Elétrico: A Tribute to Os Mutantes" is a way to remind us how great their music is, and how much the work of this band still reverberates through time. Some of the artists on this tribute are well-known, others still struggle in the underground, but what they have in common is an unabashed love for this trio and their crazy, lighthearted passion for fun and experimentation.
Time hasn’t diminished the driving exuberance and the unmistakable vibe that is the real essence of Os Mutantes: they are still alive and kicking, playing out there and probably touring in your country. Look for them and you will even find a Jardim Elétrico!
Trackilist:

Stop The Wheel "Top top"
Jennifer Gentle "Panis et circenses"
Father Murphy "Ave Lucifer"
Sean Lennon and Yuka Honda "Trem fantasma"
White Flag "Mysterious White Roses" (Os Mutantes unreleased song, taken from a 1968 movie)
Tater Toz "Bat Macumba"
Littlebrown "Senhor f."
Residual Echoes "A minha menina"
Wondermints "Arnaldo Said"
Pillar and Tongues "Magica"
Oswald "Dois mil e um"
Gomma Workshop "O relogio"
Franklin Delano/GRES Unidos Do Berimbau "Adeus, Maria Fulo"
The Earlies "Ave Gengis Khan"
Fabio Recco & Bia Mendes (Beto Salmon remix) "Tecnicolor"

"My dear Friends, it's been an honour for us Mutantes to be receiving this kind of warmth and recognition from the youth who's going to change the musical face of this century, we are so very proud of you all, and
so grateful in our hearts for this homage, I wish that our music can always touch your hearts and the magic that you do...this CD is a beautifull gesture, thank you all so very much..." Sérgio Dias, Os Mutantes
Thanks to the support of Sergio Dias and Windish Agency (Chicago, US) Jardim Elétrico will be available as official merchandase at every Os Mutantes show.

For any further information, please feel free to contact Frederico f. (Madcap Collective) feder✧✧✧@malede✧✧✧.i✧ or Marco Damiani (Silly Boy Ent.) sillyboy✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

(Marco D. posts here, of course, and can doubtless say more.)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

I just got the Secos e Molhados 1st. ~~How come the chick who does vocals for every track didn't get her head severed head a plate for the album cover?? Shame!~~ WTF!! IT'S A GUY! Movel over Michael Quercio!

Anyway, yeah, this is great stuff. Not so keen on the boogie-woogie sounding number (so many good 197-whatever albums tainted by dud boogie woogie number), but then it's followed by that one track with the ridonculous bassline, so it's all fine in the end.

― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

free os mutantes show in the park in SF sunday! :D

― jaxon, Friday, 13 July 2007 19:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Got the tribute album the other day, will listen over the weekend...

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 July 2007 19:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

-- Stormy Davis, Friday, July 6, 2007 12:45 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

so otm

― s1ocki, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111616420

Arthur Verocai: Return Of A Brazilian Secret Egon from Stones Throw piece

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 05:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

― 'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 05:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

need to get that s/t

― also huh (velko), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 06:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

me too

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

ya heard

― 'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

huh never heard of him before - sounds great must find

― go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 August 2009 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

just got the verocai, very nice

― velko, Thursday, 3 September 2009 06:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

i have that Ivan Lins album. picked it up because verocai produced it. it kinda sux. luckily i picked it up for a buck and it sells for 25-35$ (if i were ever to actually sell stuff on ebay)

― jaxon, Thursday, 3 September 2009 06:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

I saw Os Mutantes tonight. WOW. I actually liked the tracks from the new album the best. What a KILLER live band.

― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 09:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm hoping to see the DC area show in October. How many original members are in the group?

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 September 2009 11:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

I saw the re-formed Os Mutantes a couple of years ago in NYC. They were great. The Baptista brothers are there from the original line-up. No Rita Lee - they had the singer Zelia Duncan sort of taking her place.

― o. nate, Thursday, 3 September 2009 15:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm seeing them TONIGHT in Vancouver! Really stoked by the positive comments. If anyone's going tonight note the venue has been changed to the Rio.

― everything, Thursday, 3 September 2009 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

the Verocai is nice, not really very tropicaliaish tho (or very funky - kinda surprised at its DJ cachet tbh) Nice orchestral stuff

― Blanket McCulkin (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 September 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

really digging this one

― velko, Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's only one of the Baptista brothers now. But whatever. The band is EXCELLENT. And the main dude is one of the best guitar players I've ever seen in my life.

So much positive energy and awesome jamming. Loved it.

― Nate Carson, Thursday, 3 September 2009 22:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Secos & Molhados - Sempre. Dusty Groove has this, but as far as I'm aware, the group only put out two albums in 1973 and 74. Anyone know what this is?

― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have a comp with both albums on it, maybe its that...?

― the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure it is a new "best of" - google found me a list of 14 tracks, which appeared to be a mix of the two albums. MAybe remastered or something.

There is also a live album of the original line-up, and I think one that was cut by the two other guys after Ney left that came out under the Secos name.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 18:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think I am that Trend Person who goes around professing general love of Tropicalia based on having one compilation where he can't remember any of the tracks or artists other than Os Mutantes.

― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

congrats

― jaxon, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

seeing mutantes on saturday

― gore vitalic (s1ocki), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Last month's Mutantes show I was at was a real rave-up. What a band!

― everything, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh god this was awful.

― gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 06:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

no rita lee = gtfo imo

― velko, Sunday, 4 October 2009 06:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

they played a new song called "baghdad blues" :( :( :(

― gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just saw the movie doc "Beyond Ipanema: Brazilian Waves in Global Music" last night at the AFI theater in suburban DC (the movie's showing just one more time there--Thurs. Oct. 8th). In it one of the guys from Os Mutantes says (and I'm paraphrasing)"I contacted Rita Lee when we were reforming the group, she said she wasn't interested." So they moved on and hired someone else.

As for the movie, its goal seems to be to show every non-Brazilian artist who has espoused an interest in Brazilian music since the 1980s. So you get interviews with members of Theivery Corporation,MIA, Diblo, and mentions of Os Mutantes performing at the Pitchfork festival. The movie does offer some cool old footage(Carmen Miranda, tropicalia, beach shots) and some interesting interviews (author Ruy Castro), and Harlem kids playing samba, but there's way too much Devandra Barnhart saying "wow, man I love tropicalia," David Byrne talking about buying records, and some guy badmouthing that damn kids music like the Rolling Stones that was so clearly less challenging than bossa nova (kinda funny I guess). Trying to cover Brazilian music in 90 minutes is impossible of course and so it's easy to name performers who were left out of this flick. I'd reccommend seeing it anyway, but just don't expect much.

― curmudgeon, Sunday, 4 October 2009 15:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Os Mutantes live, in English, in color in 1969 with an orchestra on French TV

― The Silent Extreme (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, thanks!

― Fanfare for the History Mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

one of the other tropicalia threads
Tropicalia

Just discovered that a movie doc called Tropicalia is showing at the American Film Institute Theatre in Maryland near Washington DC tonight and Sunday

TROPICÁLIA
"What was the message we were sending to everyone? Be free! And that was extremely subversive at the time." Tropicália was a relatively short-lived but hugely influential movement in Brazilian arts and music during the late 1960s. This playfully expressionistic documentary delves deep into the Tropicália story, including amazing archival footage of Caetano Veloso, Gilberto Gil, Os Mutantes, Maria Bethânia, Gal Costa, Elis Regina, Tom Ze, and Jorge Ben Jor, among many others.

DIR/SCR Marcelo Machado; SCR Vaughn Glover, Di Moretti; PROD Paula Cosenza, Denise Gomes. Brazil/US/UK, 2012, b&w and color, 87 min. In Portuguese with English subtitles. NOT RATED

No passes accepted.Fri, Sep 28, 10:00; Sun, Sep 30, 7:15--note new time!

― curmudgeon, Friday, 28 September 2012 14:22 (7 months ago) Permalink

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