Stevie Nicks solo - Classic or Dud?

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I can't BELIEVE no one's asked this.

This is about Stevie Nicks' solo stuff, NOT Fleetwood Mac stuff. When it's on the radio I think "Stand Back" is thte greatest song ever written, "Edge of Seventeen" is pretty close, and there are at least half a dozen other songs as good if not BETTER than the tracks she recorded with the Mac.

(I should own up to owning the Timespace box set, which I bought at the peak of my Macmania about eight years ago. It's magnificent kitsch. My favorite quote is the one where she says that 'the bathroom" is her favorite room because it's where she wrote her best songs).

What are your other favorites?

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

classic obv

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

One of the first shows I ever saw was Stevie Nicks on her "Wild At Heart" tour. JOE WALSH opened for her.

"Edge of Seventeen" and "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" propel her solo career into teh classy.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

I never cared for "Belladonna" – the arrangements seem like conventional L.A. roots-rock. The garish synth-pop of "Rock a Little" is more fun.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

"nightbird" is a reet purdy tune
but really she needed lindsay doing the arrangements and guitars, not hack LA technicians churning out cocaine-wispy soft-rock w/ poorly integrated synth-lines

― blissblogga, Friday, 18 March 2005 19:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

My favorite quote is the one where she says that 'the bathroom" is her favorite room because it's where she wrote her best songs

no, no, she said the bathroom is where she did her best lines.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

I always dug that line in "Nightbird": "I wear boots all summer long." Why? Cuz you're a coked-out skank!

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

When it's on the radio I think "Stand Back" is thte greatest song ever written

Dave Q started a thread about "Stand Back" recently.
Oh, one more thing,

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(yet another example of Don Henley's best work coming after the Eagles)

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

I totally need to buy the best-of one of these days

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

That chugging echoey guitar in Edge of Seventeen was fantastic.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

"but really she needed lindsay doing the arrangements and guitars."

Generally, yes. But I'll take "Talk to Me" or "Stand Back" or "Rooms on Fire' over "That's Alright," "Sisters of the Moon," or "Welcome to the Room, Sara".

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 20:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

Great lost SN track: 'Violet and Blue', originally on some soundtrack, on the box set also.

― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

one of the best greatest voices ever and totally classic for crediting not only her hairstylist, make-up artist, clothing designer and bootmaker on The Wild Heart, but also her MANICURIST!! not to mention: arggh what a babe

(also that comment about her needing LB's arrangements upthread is wrong cuz LB would never have realized "stand back" ought to sound like a prince tune)

― jones (actual), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Maybe cuz Prince helped with the original arrangement (and played synths, I think). Some Nicks compilations even give him a cowriting credit.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

hey cool! well that explains that

― jones (actual), Friday, 18 March 2005 22:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Leather and Lace" could be one of the most loathsome duets I've ever heard. A drunken one night stand between a city traveller with a bad wardrobe and a desperately self-delusional southern girl, which prematurely concludes before the sexual double-entendres start a-flowing. It makes me wonder if Don just couldn't perform and decided to stall with sweet talk until he felt more inspired. Considering what he had to work with I guess I don't blame him.

This song would have greatly benefitted from a Bonnie Tyler and Eddie Money treatment rather than Don Henley mewling "Sometimes I'm a strong man/Sometimes cold and scared/And sometimes I cry." Yeah sometimes I cry too Don, usually when I'm listening to one of your solo tunes.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

I lost all respect for Stevie Nicks when she did her own version of Dreams and mangled a once famous hookline into "Women- they will come and they will.... uh... probably leave you...." and then still tries to rhyme this with "knoooooooow" 2 seconds later!!

Plus I think it's quite ironic that she was never all that popular in the UK, which is essentially where Fleetwood Mac come from.

― JTS, Friday, 18 March 2005 23:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Edge of Seventeen" and "Stop Draggin My Heart Around" is the only solo Stevie I like.

― Sara Sherr, Saturday, 19 March 2005 03:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

a desperately self-delusional southern girl

But *every* Stevie Nicks song involves a delusional girl. Her songs are nothing if not full of uncertainty and self-doubt.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 19 March 2005 03:40 (8 years ago) Permalink

We're all allowed to flub lines in the midst of cocaine psychosis.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love "Leather and Lace". really pretty song.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I just heard "If Anyone Falls" on the bus. I did a twirl.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 13:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Hell yeah. Hell yeah to the LA session players. Hell yeah to Don Henley knowing that with Stevie to light his nights, somehow he'd get by. Hell yeah to Alfred Soto correctly observing that when you didn't plan to hear it just then, "Stand Back" is in fact the best song ever written. Along with "Edge Of Seventeen" or "If Anyone Falls." Hell yeah to doing fat rails at some record producer's party up the canyon in Studio City, or maybe it was a real estate guy, and finding yourself alone on a balcony at four in the morning, the has-beens long retired to the bedrooms with the wannabes, and maybe a few stragglers sprawled on living room shag, too wasted or too desperate to know that for them the party ended weeks ago, with the Valley twinkling everywhere below, and knowing that love is only one fine star away. Hell yeah.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.johannas-art.com/portraitsamples.htm

― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

underrated nicks solo track: "long way to go"

also, "i can't wait" video had some serious mid-80's sizzle to it.

― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 04:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

From www.johannas-art.com/portraits.htm: "April 2005: Please note that I currently do not accept portrait and/or other artwork commissions until further notice. Thank you!"

Brian, it's not really fair to tease us like that. Esp. since my first thought was OMG I MUST HAVE THIS.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 05:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 05:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

In addition to all of the above, classic for the "Edge of Seventeen" scene in School of Rock.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 07:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

Damn, Roger. That's poetry.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 12:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Early-mid 80s, sure ("Stand Back"--does it fall into that category?)...late 80s and beyond? No way.

― Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Rooms On Fire" is a fine late '80s nugget, better than two of her three Tango in the Night tracks.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

I want Roger's prose on a T-Shirt

― Baaderonixx le Belge (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

That would be a very big shirt.

'Far as poetry goes, all props to Alfred for the thread. We haven't actually mentioned "After The Glitter Fades" by name, but it stands for me among the best of all singer-songwriter SoCaliana*, from "Late For The Sky" through "A Long December."

*A genre defined by the hoovering of rails in an elegiac mode.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

Ick. Dud. Yuck. If I never heard "Edge of Seventeen" again, that'd be just fine with me.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

For an obligatory "old famous person with celebrity guest stars" albums Trouble in Shangri-La is pretty great.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 17:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

My wife is going to see Stevie Nicks in concert tonight. I think they'll have fun...I would go if it were free.

Edge of Seventeen is a stone classic. But not as stone classic as "Stone in Love" by Journey which is a double-stone classic for use of the word "stone" in the title.*

*Also, I noticed the other day that the main riff from Stone in Love is totally ripped off by "Drown" by Son Volt, which was by far their best song. Huh.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

I hear the similarity, but not much more...

Suspect the collective might throw a lot of "Windfall" and "Tear Stained Eye" at that Son Volt POO, but "Stone In Love" was WITHOUT QUESTION Journey's finest hour. I love it without irony. Deserves its own thread.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 23:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Just like the one wing doe, sings a song sounds like she's singin
ooh ooh oooooh
baby baby

― On the bass, 57 7th, he wrote this (calstars), Thursday, 7 July 2005 01:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

stevie-classic. and good to see some don henley love here. and hell yeah manifesto-classic.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 July 2005 03:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

Classic (through 1985). Rock A Little is actually my favorite of her solo lps.

"Edge of Seventeen" was what Destiny's Child sampled for "Bootylicious," right?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

yup. nothing wrong with bootylicious, but it's a tease as cruel as "hippychick"

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

I thought so, but never went through the motions of confirming it.

Not sure which I like more: "Seventeen" or "Bootylicious."

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 7 July 2005 04:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

i like stand back, and i sort of like edge of seventeen. her lyrics are usually pretty bad. i find something about her music theoretically extremely dislikable but practically not so bad, if that makes sense. though her songs from the fleetwood mac albums benefit from lots of l. buckingham production touches that her solo material is missing.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 July 2005 05:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

i used to like don henley, and i guess i'd still stick up for him in some kind of barroom argument, but i find him more ridiculous than listenable these days. his lyrics, too, are atrocious.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 7 July 2005 05:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

So my wife said the concert was good...did all hitz....she got to see Edge of Seventeen and Landslide live...she said Stevie still twirls about like a bewitched gypsy!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

zaxxon25 in OTM shockah -- I'm crying here myself right about now.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

So this thread sent me back to the vault. Is it just me, or does "Nightbird" = "Dreams" but not as, y'know, hooky, or good?

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Edge Of Seventeen" - great. My love renewed when Jack Black dusted it off in 'School Of Rock' for Joan Cusack. Stevie's a cokehead, a crazy twirling, incense-burning cokehead, but dang it, I love her. And I love "Stop Dragging My Heart Around". "Leather & Lace" isn't so hot though..

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 July 2005 04:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Nightbird" is a mix of "Dreams," "Stand Back," and "Edge of SEventeen" as only a coked-out cocaine conjurer can create. It's got that immortal line: "I wear boots all summer long."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 8 July 2005 10:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Hilarious!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 02:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

"Edge of Seventeen" is fucking immense.

― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 12 April 2008 22:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Get ahold of yourself, man, for God's sake.

― Gorge, Sunday, 13 April 2008 07:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Yeah, you know it, Bitch.

"Stand Back". I saw this video before I could even GET fucking MTV. You know it fucking rules. And look at her fucking hair. Is it not perfect hair??? How many hairdressers were responsible for that?

This one goes out to Alfred Soto - "I Can't Wait":

And by the way, Edge of Seventeen...

― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 10 November 2008 04:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

Get ahold of yourself, man, for God's sake.

― jaxon, Monday, 10 November 2008 05:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha. Why?

― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 10 November 2008 06:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

She's the goddess. Get on the train now. She's the Queen, man. She's even going to outdo Nico as Queen of Goth if I'm not careful here.

Anyway I don't want to talk to people who haven't heard Kate Bush's The Dreaming album just yet. Just sayin'.

― Ozzy Goth Beatles (Bimble), Sunday, 1 February 2009 06:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Leather & Lace, live 1981

How Still My Love, live 1983

― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

"This is a song about an old Welsh witch" LOL

― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 06:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

haven't read any of this, but its obviously not even an issue, stevie has held her own.

― fauxmarc, Sunday, 1 March 2009 08:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I know I have resurrected this thread about a zillion times, but I want to know if anyone knows this song "Gold & Braid" which didn't appear on either of her first two albums for some weird reason. I'm not even positive that she wrote it, but it's become a big fave of mine.

― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's on the box set; before then it was only found on that live show VHS to which you linked.

― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah! Thanks for responding. I knew it was on the Enchanted thing, that was it. Allmusic says it's indeed her song, but I suppose allmusic could be wrong.

― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I mean can someone please look at their CD or whatever and confirm that she has the writing credits on this one? Or someone else? Thanks.

― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also, I'm determined to keep calm tonight about the music I love, but I just want to say that her song "Outside The Rain", I heard that on my iPod while running through this HUGE graveyard near my house a couple months ago with my friend, and I can't now divorce that feeling from the song itself. I felt like a child, and its a reminder that this gorgeous HUGE graveyard is near my house and I have only to walk a few blocks and I'm in that place again in my mind. There's something incredible about a child running through the greenery of nature, and she summed up that whole feeling for me.

― Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Friday, 17 April 2009 03:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

this was on the vintage WS thread but wanted more ppl to see it!

wow so awesome

― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

man this clip is making my life better

― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

the crazy thing is that this is like 10X better than the album version....just such a nice little moment, lost to time...thank god for youtube....

getting irl goosebumps.

― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, that really is gorgeous! Her face kinda makes it better too: a lotta joy in singing.

― Euler, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's like she's singing like how you sing when you're a little kid, like un-self-conscious and just for the fun

― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Never really been a huge Stevie Nicks fan, but damned if that isn't one of the most charming clips I've ever seen.

― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't blame it on me

― Joint Custody (ian), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

BLAME IT ON MY WIIIILD HEEEART

― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 18:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

a friend showed me that clip a couple of months ago. it was all we talked about for a couple of days basically

― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really, really sweet. Love when the pause in the music (about 1:40) makes her eyes go wide, and she elicits a little chuckle from the makeup woman.

― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 January 2010 19:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

new solo album may 3rd

― Love, M.D. (electricsound), Monday, 21 March 2011 04:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Her?

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 21 March 2011 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't believe so

― Love, M.D. (electricsound), Monday, 21 March 2011 05:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got the demos for the Wild Heart album... the dressing room video of Wild Heart sounds way better than any of the WH demos I downloaded. Does anyone have a decent mp3 of it?

― elan, Monday, 21 March 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

aka, YSI?

― elan, Monday, 21 March 2011 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

wild heart video is captivating. i didn't realise she looked like that

"i really like it when you sing like *a* child"

― NI, Thursday, 31 March 2011 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

She looks like Ann Veal from Arrested Development.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 1 April 2011 01:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Rave review.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

A lot more generous than the Slant review: http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review/in-your-dreams/2487

― Captain Hyrax (Phil D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lots of rong in that review. First, David Stewart is certainly not "one of pop music's most progressive, fearless producers" -- one of the most regressive and reactionary, actually, which sometimes worked in his favor.

Secondly, since when is anyone upset over Nicks' choice of literary role models? This is a woman who wears leather and lace, boots in the summer time, and fucked Joe Walsh.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

SFJ reviews the new album.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's more a summary of stevie nicks in general

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 9 May 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

SFJ reviews the new album.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, May 9, 2011

cf. Headlines That Write Themselves

I actually heard the single on the radio. I liked it. I thought, "wow, this sounds like Stevie Nicks."

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am weirdly intrigued by this

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 09:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

The song based on Twilight is excellent. She has so much empathy for these girls.

― ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Never knew this before:

Stevie Nicks wrote “Edge of Seventeen” after Tom Petty’s wife Jane started telling her how they met. “She was telling me about Tom [Petty], about when she met him, and she has an incredible Southern accent…and she said that she met him at the age of seventeen, but I thought she said “edge”, and she said “no…age” and I said “Jane, forget it, it’s got to be “edge”. The “Edge of Seventeen” is perfect. I’m going to write a song, ok? And I’m going to give you credit.” She didn’t believe me, you know? She couldn’t believe it when it came out on the album.”

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

One Week//One Band almost done with its weeklong celebration of Stevie Nicks. A lovely post answering the question "What are some of your fondest memories of being a teenage Fleetwood Mac fan?"

I think I miss the culture of it, mostly. Which was the culture of a certain time, too — we hung out on Usenet! The wars between the message boards! There was this guy who was like the Frank Kogan of Mac fandom, and he had all these stories about bootlegging concerts from the parking lot behind the stage when he was a kid in Southern California in the ’70s — and I think at one point before the wars he invited me to join the bad board, which was kind of a badge of honor, particularly as a Stevie Nicks fan, particularly as a female Stevie Nicks fan, since we were basically what the bad board was designed to destroy. There was a sexist aspect that I didn’t pick up on as a kid, or I picked up on it but I accepted it, where a bunch of adult males created a hierarchy of what was cool, what was smart, what was better, and at the top was them and the things they liked, and at the bottom was young women, and the things young women wanted to talk about. Stevie was the least cool thing you could like. (So of course I loved her like my life depended on it. I loved her like her life depended on it.)

But there was a culture beyond that, the things handed down from fan to fan. All the little legends — the things someone once said Lindsey once said to Stevie, the story about him slapping her, whether it was true. Whether we could trust Mick Fleetwood. The fight over “Silver Springs.” The fight over “Go Your Own Way.” The fight over “Tusk.” The fight over Tusk. Every concert ending with “Songbird.” Mick’s balls, and John’s tattoo, and who “Sara” and “Caroline” were about. And all the things we traded — the Rosebud documentary, the Tusk documentary, the Almanac demos, and there was a recording of Stevie saying this, and there was a video of Lindsey doing that, and after a while you knew it so well you felt like you were born with it, born knowing the stories and the symbols and the traditions and what was classic and what was rare and what was valuable.

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 18:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

For those curious, I believe Mick's balls we/are actually souvenir pull-strings from some old hotel toilets pilfered while on tour in the old days, back when the band also used to adorn the drum set with dildos and fill condoms with scary liquids then spray them at crowds. I'm not making this up.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 October 2012 18:58 (7 months ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

You know how when you hear about some pampered rock star demanding something like reshooting an entire video because they didn't like they way they looked in it? The MTV Oral History book mentions how Stevie Nicks shelved the first version of "Stand Back" for that reason and reshot a more 80s version with the wind in her hair and dancers in the shadows.

Sounds like the old version would be better than any generic second take, right? I think Stevie may have known what she was talking about.

Here, how about she explain to you why this first one was a bad idea.

"Now we're in the Civil War..."

― pplains, Monday, 29 April 2013 21:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/stevie-nicks-on-life-at-65-with-fleetwood-mac.html

― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 23:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

She's been terrific lately. Check this out:

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

“She’s very amazing about making these major decisions about her life that a lot of people would just stumble along, and suddenly you’re 35 with three screaming kids and going, ‘Hey, how did I end up here?’ ” says Dave Stewart. “It’s this free-spirit thing: Don’t let people push you into a box that you don’t like.” Carlton, 32, remembers Nicks telling her that when Nicks joined Fleetwood Mac, she only saw one path for herself, and it didn’t involve childbearing. “She said, ‘I wanted to be respected by every single dude on that stage, and if I walked out and I’d made that choice, the dynamic would have been different.’ And she’s right,” Carlton says. “And now it’s a little bit different because of women like Stevie. And I think, God, I’m just so grateful to her. She’s a total badass.”

Carlton tells me that last year she asked Nicks to write out her “rules of engagement”—how to get what you want out of life and men. Nicks gave her a stack of hotel stationery with handwritten directives and the overall message that you shouldn’t compromise on having a wonderful, interesting life just because it can be a challenge for some men, but that you should also be aware that that lifestyle can be a burden. Carlton reads one aloud: “ ‘He must have a good job. He must be happy and satisfied with his own life. You are there to enhance his life, not take away from it, and he is there to enhance your life, not fuck it up.’ That’s my favorite one. Thank you, Stevie!”

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 23:51 (1 week ago) Permalink

Re that YouTube clip. Listen to the last four minutes in which she discusses the death of her mother. Damn.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 00:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

I wonder if any child has the courage to ask those questions of their mother.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 June 2013 04:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

I love you Stevie Nicks

― copter (waterface), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 13:21 (1 week ago) Permalink

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