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I'm going to Delaware for spring break to look at colleges, and it's going to be pretty boring. I'm making a run to Best Buy and Barnes and Noble's tomorrow to get stuff, and I was wondering if anyone knew of good books about music. We're going for fun to read here, since I need something that doesn't take too long to get into. I've already read Never Mind the Pollacks (which was great), and my closest Barnes and Noble's has Our Band Could be Your Life and that uncensored oral history of punk book that was on the OC three weeks ago.

WillSommer, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

Perfect Sound Forever
The Music's All That Matters
What Rock Is All About
Lipstick Traces
Just Kill Me
Psychotic Reactions & Carburetor Dung
The Aesthetics of Rock
Krautrocksampler

little ivan, Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Get the Lester Bangs books.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

and Please Kill Me: The Oral History of Punk by Legs McNeil

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Please Kill Me was on the OC?

Please kill me.

Oh well. Read it anyway. It's amazing. And Our Band Could Be Your Life. If you're interested in criticism, check out Psychotic Reactions and Carbeurator Dung or anything by Lester Bangs or one or two Greil Marcus books (The Basement Tapes). I'd stay away from Camden Joy, contrary to popular opinion.

I need something that doesn't take too long to get into

But you're going to college, man! Just buy Adorno's Essays on Music and accept that the next 4+ years of your life are going to be like that mwahahaha...

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dave Marsh, The Heart of Rock & Soul (his 1,001 most important singles of the rock era, in bite-size nuggets)

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

Love Saves the Day and Can't Stop Won't Stop by Tim Lawrence and Jeff Chang, respectively.

I also enjoyed Last Night a DJ Saved My Life and there's the ever-classic Generation Ecstasy.

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

conflict of interest, but whatever:
Christoph Cox and Daniel Warner, Audio Culture: Readings in Modern Music
featuring Eno, Cage, Stockhausen, Merzbow, Reynolds, lots of other luminaries, and some jerk named Sherburne

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 17 March 2005 04:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Hellfire,
Unsung Heroes of Rock and Roll- Tosches
Faithfull: An Autobiography- Marianne Faithfull
Chronicles v.1- Dylan
Black Monk Time- Eddie Shaw
I, Tina- Tina Turner
Uptight: the VU story,
Transformer- Bockris
Planet Joe- Joe Cole
hahahha

Elisa (Elisa), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

John Cage's Silence is a great book about music and other things.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

All of the above, and Sidney Bechet's autobio (blanking on the title, but he only wrote one); Miles by Miles Davis; Rip It Up: The Black Experience in Rock 'N' Roll (Kandia Crazy Horse, ed.)

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

Also, Robert Palmer (not the singer)'s Deep Blues, Christgau's 70s Consumer Guide (yeah you can look up all the Consumer Guide entries at robertchristgau.com, 'cept maybe the *most* recent, which are at villagevoice.com, but unless you just love typing in Subjects and hitting Enter and know exactly what to look for, the book is a lot more fun). Also most anything by Peter Guralnick (although I woouldn't start with the Elvis stuff)(if you want to get strung out ona good sick Elvis book, try Evis Aron Presley, by Alanna Nash with the Memphis Mafia) Most anything by Frith, Toop; Charles Keil' Uran Blues; Tom T. Hall's The Storyteller's Nashville (one of the funniest books I've read re musos, and good serious stuff too); Nelson Goerge's Seduced: The Life And Times Of A One Hit Wonder; Pamela Des Barres' I'm With The Band; Ruth Brown's Miss Rhythm (an epic!)

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ahh yeah Rap Attack by Toop. Does Greg Tate have any books out there worth picking up?

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

Does Greg Tate have any books out there worth picking up?

I had never heard of Tate until I saw him speak not long ago. He is a BAD. ASS. Does he still write for The Voice? I feel like I never see him in there. Does he have a blog?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 17 March 2005 05:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

He definitely still writes for the voice, unbelievable writer too, sort of a marxist approach to hip-hop these days (as SFJ pointed out) which seems to distance him from discussing how the music moves him but which does raise significant points regarding hip-hop and the way it is being used both positively and negatively; I got sort of nuts at him during the "great tate debate" when he criticized people for celebrating the 30th anniversary of hip-hop and while I don't share his lack of enthusiasm/engagement with the current music, I do think he's absolutely right about what hip-hop's significance is (paraphrasing, renders African-Americans "all but invisible" in a cultural sense) and that unfortunately the advancement of African-American cultural capital has not resulted in economic justice or any kind of justice, really.

I'm mostly interested in reading a book of his since his prose is fairly magnificent.

deej., Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

r. crumb draws the blues - r. crumb
country - nick tosches (his other books too of course, but this is my favorite)
rythm oil and the true adventures of the rolling stones by stanley booth
awopbopaloobop by nik cohn

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 07:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

Touching From A Distance
Bass Culture
Songs They Don't Play On The Radio
Revolution In The Head
Rotten: No Dogs, No Blacks , No Irish
Soulsville

wtin, Thursday, 17 March 2005 10:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Wonderland Avenue" - Danny Sugerman - I can't stand The Doors but I loved this book. Also, "The Dirt", the Motley Crue book. Again, hate the band, but a cracking read.

bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Tate's 1991 collection Flyboy in the Buttermilk is tremendous. His review/demolition of Bad ("I'm White! What's Wrong with Michael Jackson") is worth the price by itself, especially when he sez that the album's title "accurately describes its contents in standard English."

If you want a cracking funny read on hip-hop, though, pick up The Rough Guide to Hip-Hop by Peter Shapiro, which has just been updated and enlarged (it was a pocket-size the first time, now it's 8 x 10). Best line goes to the Bad Boy Records writeup, when he notes that Puff Daddy, having been responsible for 40% of all 1997's number ones, moved to the Hamptons "so he could live by the sea, just like his magic dragon namesake."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

actually, strike that "though," Toop can be funny and obviously so can Tate.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

Neil McCormick's "Killing Bono" was a quick, fun read.

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Wonderland Avenue" - Danny Sugerman - I can't stand The Doors but I loved this book. Also, "The Dirt", the Motley Crue book. Again, hate the band, but a cracking read.

Same here! (Of course there's also the Led Zep bio.)

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

ooh, haven't read that led zep one. I just remembered a book called "Lost in Music" by Giles Smith, which was a hoot.

bg, Thursday, 17 March 2005 11:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

chuck berry's autobiog

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

George Jones, I Lived To Tell It All
Miles Davis, Miles: The Autobiography

Next week on "The O.C.": Seth and Ryan get into a fatal disagreement over "James Taylor: Marked For Death," while Summer meets a new hottie who shares her disgust of Nick Hornby.

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 17 March 2005 14:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nelson George's previously mentioned Seduced is said to roman-a-clef of sorts (Russell Simmons, on back cover of early edition, earnestly denies that one of the characters is based on him--that's his whole blurb). Some wicked bits about the early days of hip-hop, and the music biz overall. The sequel, Urban Romance, spotlights a minor Seduced charactor, who writes for Billboard and the Voice. Haven't read it yet, but it's next. Tate's Everything But The Burden, about whites biting black music, is another I've heard good stuff about.

don, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

For a good time, read:

Dino by Nick Tosches (about Dean Martin; as deep as Catch a Fire by Timothy White, as entertaining as that Motley Crue book)

Backbeat: Earl Palmer's Story, by Tony Scherman (oral history/autobiography of the New Orleans drummer; had me at "Louis Armstrong was a pimp"...)

We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of L.A. Punk by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen (better than Please Kill Me, kind of like L.A. punk itself)

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

Here's TSOL frontman Jack Grisham in We Got the Neutron Bomb, before he announced his run for governor against Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger (and Gary Coleman, etc.):

I was torturing this guy in the garage of my mom's house in this nice suburban neighborhood with my whole family inside eating Easter dinner... and I'd got this guy tied up in the rafter with a rope around his legs and I'm beating him with a two-by-four. I said, "Hang on a minute," and put the two-by-four down and walked into the house and kissed my aunt and said like, "Oh hi, how you doing?" I grabbed a deviled egg, told them I'd be back in a minute, and I went back out, grabbed the two-by-four, and kept workin' on the guy. I finally had to get out of Vicious Circle 'cause of the violence. There were constant stabbings and beatings and people cruising by my house at night, shooting up the neighborhood....

I did something pretty bad to somebody and they retaliated with guns. It was a big deal, I had to split to Alaska for a while, they cut the lines on my car, blew up my car... fuck...I don't wanna say who they were, but they weren't punks... boy, they were pissed off.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

'Long Time Gone' the David Crosby (auto)biog is definitely the best music book i have ever read. the way he led his life and some of the decisions he made are genuinely stupefying. equal parts genius and retard. extraordinary when set against the soundtrack of the music he was making.

i went on holiday with the Deborah Curtis book and the Nick Drake biography once. happy times, let me tell you.

Lee F# (fsharp), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

dino is so good that i've lent and lost TWO copies to (so-called) friends

if you ever find dave rimmer's "once upon a time in the east", abt berlin east and west b4 the fall of the wall, i utterly UTTERLY recommend it: tho it's only somewhat abt music - unlike his earlier (and also good) "like punk never happened"

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've just got "Lost in the Grooves" by the editors of Scram (the same peeps who did "Bubblegum Music is the Naked Truth"), a collection of reviews of culty, forgotten or neglected albums. Some very ILM choices in there: Jandek, Poster Children, Bridgette Fontaine etc. If only slsk was working properly...

Richard C (avoid80), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I wrote a few entries for Lost In The Grooves (Boogie Down Productions, Schoolly D, Sonny Sharrock).

Joe Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic is being reissued sometime this year.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

and how could i forget, the funniest rock-related book ever: the life and times of little richard by charles white.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 17 March 2005 23:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

xpost the David Crosby book has sections with different versions side by side, like the Synoptic Gospels: the Word according to St. David, his friends and ex-friends. But certainly not Gospel in the I-swung-naked-on-the-chandelier-but-now-I've-found-the-LORDuh (so send your dollars to my new friends today). He's got his regrets, but still the somae ornery critter ("Don't do crack, and also watch out for the CIA/Colobian Cartels, man," is more the POV)

don, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Bass Culture
Sadly retitled in America as The History of Jamaica's music or something like that, but it's excellent. The only disappointing aspect about it is that Lloyd Bradley doesn't cover any On-U-Sound releases in the book or even take them into account.

Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm just finishing this, I like it, but it could have used a little bit more demographic and geographic background info on Jamaica and Kingston in particular.

JoB (JoB), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nick Kent's "The Dark Stuff"
"Alt-Rock-o-Rama" (great on car trips!)
Brian Eno's "More Dark than Shark"
Motley Crue's "The Dirt" (well, not about music, per se)

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

Blissed Out is still my favorite Simon Reynolds book. Jon Savage's England's Dreaming (see recent thread on him); Chuck Eddy's Stairway To Hell and Accidental Evolution; a couple of good anthologies: ROck She Wrote and Trouble Girls.

don, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

that book "Hip: A History" isn't strictly about music but it's also very good. I think the author's name is John Leland.

Ashandeej, Friday, 18 March 2005 06:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

Audio Culture (edited cox / warner) seconded, and limiting myself to the books next to my desk (library's in the hallway)

Electronic and Experimental Music by Thom Holmes
also; Wireless Imagination (d kahn / g whitehead)
Paul Griffiths - A Concise History of Avant-Garde Music
Paul Griffiths - Modern Music And Beyond
Curtis Roads
William Duckworth : Talking Music
Cage: Silence / A Year From Monday
Cage / Feldman: Conversations
James Tenney : Meta / Hodos
Karlheinz Stockhausen - Stockhausen on Music (Compiled by R Maconie)
Sound By Artists (ed. Dan Lander)
Chris Cutler - File Under Popular
Attali - Noise
Russolo - The Art of Noises (get a hold of a copy any way you can)
Trevor Wishart - On Sonic Art
Douglas Kahn - Noise Water Meat

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 March 2005 07:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

milton, has "modern music and beyond" been updated at all?: when i first read it (= in like 1977), i remember thinking "waddya mean beyond"!! it stops in 1968 with a sad thud!!

i think the attali book is lousy at book length—it's a good short polemic idea bulked out to a contradictory nonsense schema—and wireless imagination is patchy (which is a pity, cz it's a great idea for an essay collection)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

really good things I've read over the last few months were adorno's bk on mahler and morton feldman's 'give my regards to 8th street' essay comp.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 09:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

weird, I stopped reading Neutron Bomb halfway through--bored me for some reason, though the stories weren't in themselves boring. hmmm. (though it may be because I've never been all that into L.A. punk and like NYC punk way more.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 18 March 2005 10:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Bass Culture" seconded - terminally readable, even if you don't much care about the stuff (which I do); as much of a cultural history as anything else. There's a certain integrity to his (not total, by any means, but pronounced) dismissal of Dancehall (and I do sometimes hear, say, Bounty Killer a bit differently now that I've read about the jamaican warlords and can't just pretend it's all fun "hey let's pretend we're Al Pacino" wackyness), but I do sorta wish he had just stopped when "his" age was over.

The Elvis Guralnick books - again, you don't have to care about the subject matter to enjoy them (personally, I was so-so on Elvis before readin' 'em, am now an unabashed fan), and the second one is one hell of a car wreck: the descent starts like twenty pages into it, and by the end of the book you can't even feel sorry for the guy anymore, you just wonder why he hasn't kicked the bucket already.

"Where Did Our Love Go?" by Nelson George has some nice anecdotes, and is probably the best book on Motown around, tho to be frank I didn't learn all that much from it.

"The Heart Of Rock & Soul" seconded, and throw in the "New Book Of Rock Lists" too, if only for the sheer joy of reading the sentence "Tragedy The Intelligent Hoodlum Lists..." over and over again (not that book of rock jokes, tho, that was awful.) And also "Fortunate Son: The Best Of Dave Marsh", great stuff on Elvis, Muddy Waters, latino rock, etc.

I remember reading Maryiln Manson's "The Long Hard Road Out Of Hell" in my early teens and being surprised by how good it was (I'd always loathed the guy's music.) Dunno if it holds up.

"Sweet Soul Music", hell yeah.

I've read the entirety of Christgau's consumer guide online, and there's some great, great stuff there. So the books are recommended, too.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

Brother Ray by Ray Charles with David Ritz is fantastic and amazingly blunt and candid.

shookout (shookout), Friday, 18 March 2005 11:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

'Joe Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic is being reissued sometime this year.'

yay I've been wanting to read that one for a while!

adding to my prev post here leroi jones 'blues people' which I just finished this morning: most gd bks on music accept that they aren't just abt notes and chords.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

i think the attali book is lousy at book length"

You mean it's not long enough? I loved the book. Should re-read it...

I also loved the Lexicon Devil (bio on Darby Crash) though it's certainly not essential...

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Friday, 18 March 2005 12:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

All my obvious suggestions are covered here, so let me just say: even if you're a die-hard, passionate, blacked-out-yr-own-teeth Joe Strummer/Clash fan, AVOID AT ALL COSTS the pile of dung known as "Let Fury Have the Hour: the Punk Rock Politics of Joe Strummer." The superficial "analysis," the copious mistakes (London Calling wasn't recorded in New York, dumbshit!), the TYPOS (?!?)...it's a massacree!

Jason Toon, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

African Rhythm and African Sensibility by John Miller Chernoff

the ONLY thing wrong with JMC's line is that he somewhat slightly seems to accept the assumption that the social dimension—the "dance"—isn’t also always part of all music in the West (though he does this in the context of getting ppl to see/hear/look for the fuller sense of the meaning of music): taking his insights abt Africa (Ghana, to be more accurate) and applying them everywhere else is revelatory

Most of it is a charming telling of him learning African drumming in Ghana

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 18:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

The only two lengthy reads on Led Zep - Stephen Davis' Hammer of the Gods and roadie Richard Cole's 'Stairway to Heaven,' are both pulpy and full of dirt and invented mythology. Not to say I don't recommend them though.

And I hope someone someday undertakes a lengthy Sabbath bio.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 18 March 2005 19:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

I saw her give a talk and reading at B&N. She said some people bugged her that there wasn't enough Prince in the book, to which her reply was "it's about my life, not Prince's." She seemed nice but I was going to give this book a pass based on that, but now I am intrigued.

Cutset Creator (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:40 (7 months ago) Permalink

Is there a decent book about the Cure? I kind of expect not...

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 03:43 (7 months ago) Permalink

Ten Imaginary Years is great. I don't think there's a good one that covers the subsequent 26.

the incredible string gland (sic), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:05 (7 months ago) Permalink

there's more than enough prince in the book! it's about her life, not his. and the way she talks about his impact on her life is really beautiful imo, even if things didn't exactly work out in the long run.

the last part is heavy on the devotion to the lord, but one of the most interesting things about her book: not a word about wanting or having children. either they are off limits entirely or she doesn't feel compelled to talk about it. either way, kudos, lady!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 04:15 (7 months ago) Permalink

Recently finished Herbie Hancock's autobio, Possibilities. Written in a no-frills style, I think he does a good job of relating what it's like to play his music, without assuming musical training on the part of the reader. Many funny little anecdotes about Miles Davis and his working methods. One never-been-told-before sordid revelation. His sister sounds really interesting also - the passages about her untimely death and its aftermath are particularly affecting. You have to be able to stomach a lot of references to his Buddhism; this aspect I felt stopped just short of being annoying. Overall I do feel I know the man better now.

Just cracked a new Peggy Lee bio called Is That All There Is? by an guy who's previously written about Chet Baker and Lena Horne. This already feels like it's going to be overwhelmingly entertaining and fascinating.

Josefa, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 16:52 (7 months ago) Permalink

I thought herbie was a sc13nt0log1s7?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:29 (7 months ago) Permalink

you're thinking of Chick Corea

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:32 (7 months ago) Permalink

No I know chick is, but I thought it was the both of them.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 17:35 (7 months ago) Permalink

i heard him talking about it in a radio interview a few weeks ago
it was pretty shocking and not related to scient0logie

La Lechera, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:02 (7 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Barry Mazor provided a very appealing description of Eric Weisbard's Top 40 Democracy in last Saturday's Wall Street Journal. The online review isn't available now to non-subscribers, apparently (WSJ's inconsistent w that), and I don't know how Salon manages such things, but just in case this link
http://www.salon.com/2014/12/07/your_music_snobbery_is_all_wrong_how_top_40_radio_made_the_mainstream_as_interesting_as_the_margins/?utm_content=bufferff0a2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer stops working, here's an excerpt of their excerpt:

Formats let music occupy a niche in capitalism and—as with Johnny Carson’s Tonight Show, with its monologue and interviews structure and MOR appeal—connect music to other show-business realms as well. Genres are different. Ordinary people don’t proudly identify with formats, but some do identify with genres. One can have a hit song that goes “I was born country”; probably not “I was born adult contemporary.” Music formats like MOR, AC, and Top 40 were crossover spaces, with no single dominant genre. A trickier category is music, like country, with both format and genre identity, making for something more porous in definition than honky-tonk, soul, or that Bruce Springsteen fans might prefer. Black-oriented pop divided between rhythm and blues (R&B), a format, and soul or hip-hop genres. Rock, in its 1970s form, was the Uncola of formats: a lucrative format posing as a rebel genre. Music genres, more inherently ideological, chafe at formats, with their centrist, commercial disposition.

Yet the very commercial tendencies that made radio formats, and the music they implanted in our consciousness, suspect aesthetically also made them trailblazers for the sounds, artists, and listeners left out by all that genre certainty. Formats, radio, and pop music deserve a much bigger place in the history of American culture than accounts rooted in genre and isolated records have afforded them. Their homogenizing tendencies popularized and routinized each eruption from the countercultural 1960s and 1970s and MTV 1980s to the grunge, gangsta, and new country 1990s. But equally important was this center’s ability to redirect music as a social force: from “serious” fans who were often straight, white, male, and affluent to listeners less vocal and coherent but no less invested in what they heard. That tension structures this book. The safe radio pop that so many commentators have reviled for so many valid reasons opened as many doors as it closed.
I probably won't agree with all of this, but wanna read it. (Mazor said it also traces the careers of the Isley Brothers and others, adapting to their audiences' changes.)

dow, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 22:16 (7 months ago) Permalink

Don't know that country ever was a format---"countrypolitan," sure, and now the national Nash FM chain incl. Nashville Idols, basically a Gen X Hat oldies format, maybe complicated by the return of Garth, though probably not---but why does he say that country is both format and genre, but rock and R&B are not? Oh well, like I said, I'm more interested in the historical road maps, but hoping to learn something conceptual as well.

dow, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 22:25 (7 months ago) Permalink

this year has been great for music books.

That big Beatles book
Bob Stanley's 'Yeah Yeah Yeah'
Viv Albertine's book
Simon Napier Bell's one about music publishing machinations
Was that Jesus and Mary chain book this year? If so, that even if they didn't cite (or use) my old article
I almost bought the Scott walker book, and may yet. It looks good but I can't nom it until I do.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 December 2014 23:56 (7 months ago) Permalink

Anyone read Stephen Hanley's book yet?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

Need to read Viv's and Hanley's tbh

Read/am reading:

No Wave, Marc Masters
People Funny Boy, David Katz
Fela: The Life and Times of an African Musical Icon, Michael E. Veal

wince (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:26 (6 months ago) Permalink

xpost thanx brio2 for posting:

http://www.mojo4music.com/18055/viv-albertine-book-of-the-year/">Mojo interview: http://www.mojo4music.com/18055/viv-albertine-book-of-the-year/

NPR's Ken Tucker put it on his '14 Best Music Top Ten: 9 albums, this book

dow, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 01:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

Want to read the Albertine book. Skimmed it in a bookstore. She chose to write it all in the present tense.

Curious about this Richie Unterberger faves:

Ain’t It Time We Said Goodbye: The Rolling Stones on the Road to Exile, by Robert Greenfield (Da Capo Press). This has the feel of a toss-off, as it’s the third book Greenfield’s written on the Stones in the early 1970s, and at least some of the stories and quotes appear in his Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones. I kind of like it anyway

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 14:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

George Clinton w/Ben Greenman Brothers Be Like Yo Like George, Ain’t That Funkin’ Kinda Hard on You

even casual fans of of the pfunk should find this illuminating. George is so smart, sharp and perceptive about music, musicians and the music business. coming up he studied how his peers and influences played and presented themselves and also how the record companies marketed them. he's insightful into the working of his own empire (and failings), offering fascinating insights on leadership, collaboration and cooperation within an unwieldy musical commune. generous and perceptive assessments of the wildly diverse personalities he's worked with over the years. despite his business acumen he does get bogged down in shady publishing rip-offs and the last third of the book drags through tortuous legal wrangles. his self-admitted 25 years + crack habit doesn't help the 80s, 90s and 2000s but he's refreshingly uncliched and frank about drug use. Ben Greenman's hand is evident in the clear readable prose though George's earthy interjections "keep it real" as they say. "The church ladies pitched a bitch because we were singing about pussy." At the end of a rapturous review of Vanilla Fudge concert: "Of course I was tripping my ass off." And after explaining his message of tolerance handed down to children, grandchildren and musicans regarding sexual preferences: "I've seen motherfuckers fuck radiators."

Pontius Pilates (m coleman), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

i am so excited to read top 40 democracy :X

dyl, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:26 (6 months ago) Permalink

(xxpost) I mentioned this on another thread a while back: Exile on Main Street: A Season in Hell with the Rolling Stones is surprisingly awful. (I seem to recall that someone else chimed in in agreement.) It's got this unrelenting you-won't-believe-the-depths-of-depravity-we're-going-to-explore tone, and the depths turn out to be that the band used drugs frequently. Glaring factual errors are mixed in.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 17:02 (6 months ago) Permalink

i gave my brother the george clinton book for xmas. half wanted to keep it for myself

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:48 (6 months ago) Permalink

regarding all the new beatles books, what could possibly be revealed in a new one? honest question

marcos, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

I read that Road to Exile book (I put out a book through Da Capo years ago and they continue to send me ARCs of all their music stuff). It was boring.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 19:48 (6 months ago) Permalink

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not so much new but really wonderfully integrated with cultural/music/social history and with a level of care & enthusiasm rarely seen. dude wanted to give the best possible history of the beatles & truly succeeds

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

I mentioned this on the Canterbury Scene thread, but I was disappointed in the new Robert Wyatt bio.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

I enjoyed the McCartney In The 70's book very much.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

the Weisbard book is excellent -- I finished it a few days ago.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:15 (6 months ago) Permalink

haven't read the lewisohn book yet but while there are a lot of beatles bios there hasn't really been one that i'd feel totally comfortable recommending, that feels definitive and objective and well-written in the way that the guralnick/elvis or jon savage/sex pistols books are. so even if there's nothing groundbreaking it feels like there's still space for someone to come along and do the job right, quietly correcting all the misconceptions and adding balance and context.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

i think lewisohn definitely fills that gap

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

Seconded. And I'd argue that Lewisohn's writing style is less dry/clinical than Guralnick's, while providing an incredibly vivid sense of detail that is as intriguing as it is necessary (speaking as someone who thought, before I read it, "Pfft, I already know about these so-called 'Beatles'!").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 22:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

Viv Albertine book is great, as direct and immediate in its way as the Charlie Louvin book.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 02:53 (6 months ago) Permalink

ohhh the charlie louvin book
so good

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 January 2015 02:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

Like driving in an air-cooled Franklin.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, I just came across a book that looks interesting with a chapter on Charlie: In the Country of Country: A Journey to the Roots of American Music, by Nicholas Dawidoff.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:27 (6 months ago) Permalink

been working on Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. It's been interesting to learn about the hits from the 50s and early 60s that I wasn't very familiar with, but some of the chapters read a bit like big lists of songs. Been listening along to this playlist that painstakingly organized the songs from the book in order of mention:

http://open.spotify.com/user/unterwasser/playlist/6Yn3GrP6D6dOSfKFfpzAiC

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

Need to get back to that book. Thanks for teh link.

Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

May still have a few clippings, but really want to find a copy of his whole run (also, still need to check his own music!) He was really good, on so many things: got me to look for The Plastic People of Prague's secretly recorded, transcontinentally mixed, pressed and smuggled Egon Bondy's Happy Hearts Club Banned---and I found it, on a Tuscaloosa side street in 1985. Also, as he so cruelly informed Charlemagne Palestine, "It doesn't matter who did it first, but who does it best."

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 22:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

Oops, meant to post this

dow, Saturday, 3 January 2015 22:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

Enjoyed this:

MTV wasn't available up here (not on regular cable, anyway), so I saw almost nothing of it in the early years--a couple of times visiting a friend in Illinois and that was it. I read the book through the filter of Toronto's Much Music, which I can now see very meticulously assembled its VJs to match MTV's: Erica Ehm = Martha Quinn (that one I already knew about), Jeanne Beker = Nina Blackwood, J.D. Roberts = Mark Goodman, Michael Williams = J.J. Jackson, Steve Anthony = Alan Hunter (that one's probably a little iffier).

Two funniest parts: 1) Blackwood telling some story involving somebody from Billy Vera's backing band, and referring to him at least six or seven times as "the Beater"; Dylan, being interviewed by Quinn in the mid-'80s, saying he liked the Police video where they jumped around and wore hats.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 January 2015 23:58 (6 months ago) Permalink

Big influence on D's ace "Must Be Santa" vid (incl. much jumping around, wearing of Santa cap & wig); also we know he's a longtime hat fan (Superfly hat in The Last Waltz, more of a Western-associated hat in Renaldo and Clara, but not a Stetson: those are the earliest stage hats of his I can remember)

dow, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 15:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

Has anybody read Kim Gordon's new book? Generally not big on memoirs and mildly ashamed that I mostly just want to hear her bash Thurston.

...J, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

Not read it but I would totally read a memoir in which Thurston bashes Kim.

you've got no fans you've got no ground (anagram), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 20:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

I've been meaning to check that one out!

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

Things that look interesting:
Cowboys and Indies, a history of the recording industry from the point of view of "Record Men," label owners and moguls

Recent history of music industry by Simon Napier-Bell. Looked at first few chapters, a ton of detail about early history of publishing.

Recent Barry Mazor bio of Ralph Peer looks to be a must read.

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

Has anyone read "Pigs Might Fly", the Pink Floyd book mentioned in the Who book review?

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 18 January 2015 16:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Interesting. Eno goes for an Alan Lomax book

I think I mentioned elsewhere that I want to read the below book by a professor/author who has spoken at several EMP Pop events. The below is an interview with him in which he both praises Peter Guralnik and expresses disagreeement with him and others

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/author-charles-l-hughes-takes-a-swing-at-conventional-wisdom-about-country-soul-and-race/Content?oid=5228976

curmudgeon, Friday, 26 June 2015 15:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Viv Albertine's book is so so so so great -- loving every single minute of reading it. Some of the stuff about her early life was so resonant to me that I want to write her a letter. Same with Kim Gordon's book, only the part that resonated was about Coco. Really enjoying getting some inside scoop, would recommend either.

La Lechera, Sunday, 26 July 2015 22:40 (4 days ago) Permalink

Want to read Viv's book. Just learned from a Joe Strummer movie doc, that Strummer used to live with Viv's bandmate, drummer Palmolive (aka Paloma)

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 July 2015 13:40 (3 days ago) Permalink


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