It'd be rude not to.
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Monday, 14 March 2005 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Disc 215.09.81: Deer Park – Look Know – Winter – Who Makes The Nazis?23.03.83: Smile – Garden – Hexen Definitive Strife Knot – Eat Y’self Fitter03.01.84: Pat Trip Dispenser – 2 x 4 – Words Of Expectation – CREEP
Disc 303.06.85: Cruiser’s Creek – Couldn’t Get Ahead – Spoilt Victorian Child – Gut Of The Quantifier07.10.85: LA – The Man Whose Head Expanded – What You Need – Faust Banana09.07.86: Hot Aftershave Bop – ROD – Gross Chapel GB Grenadiers – US 80’s-90’s09.05.87: Athlete Cured – Australians In Europe – Twister – Guest Informant
Disc 431.10.88: Deadbeat Descendant – Cab It Up – Squid Lord – Kurious Oranj01.01.90: Chicago Now – Black Monk Theme – Hilary – Whizz Bang23.03.91: The War Against Intelligence – Idiot Joy Showland – A Lot Of Wind – The Mixer
Disc 515.02.92: Free Range – Kimble – Immortality – Return13.03.93: Ladybird (Green Grass) – Strychnine – Service – Paranoia Man In Cheap Shit Room05.12.94: M5 – Behind The Counter – Reckoning – Hey! Student17.12.94: Glam Racket Star – Jingle Bell Rock – Hark The Herald Angels Sing – Numb At The Lodge22.12.95: He Pep! – Oleano – Chilinist – The City Never Sleeps18.08.96: DIY Meat – Spinetrak – Spencer – Beatle Bones N Smokin’ Stones
Disc 603.03.98: Calendar – Touch Sensitive – Masquerade – Jungle Rock04.11.98: Bound Soul One – Antidotes – Shake Off – This Perfect Day13.03.03: Theme From Sparta FC – Contraflow – Groovin’ With Mr Bloe - Green Eyed Loco Man – Mere Pseud Mag Ed12.08.04: Job Search - Clasp Hands – Blindness – What About Us – Wrong Place, Right Time > I Can Hear The Grass Grow
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 14 March 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Monday, 14 March 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― lychee mello (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jon Hope (jarge), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― monia.l (monia.l), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Aerodynamic (Aerodynamic), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Unclear but will probably be imported. This is coming out on Sanctuary, who have been getting the Castle remasters over here when not releasing it themselves, and getting it over here cheaply enough (the Hex Enducation Hour reissue I picked up at Amoeba was only $16 -- and a double disc at that).
I'll be reviewing this for the Seattle Weekly and frankly I can't wait!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Xetrov, Monday, 14 March 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― monia.l (monia.l), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I am really looking forward to hearing sessions 12-17 and 21-24 for the first time.
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link
i remember this as if it were yesterday. wow. i must buy this.
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link
This BBC box is pure gold!
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I am hoping against hope this is a Coasters cover.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 14 March 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 14 March 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 14 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― My Son Calls Another Man Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
i remember this as if it were yesterday. wow. i must buy this."
I remember the two 1978 sessions as if they were yesterday.
What happened yesterday unfortunately is rather less clear.
I confidently predict that this presence or absence of this set from any individual's collection is going to rapidly become recognised as a one of the crucial defining indicators of that individual's hip quotient.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't agree. It's certainly a cooler thing than the umpteenth Fall live album, but it's still peripheral to the albums proper.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm not sure quite what you're disagreeing with: that it should happen or that it will happen.
Fwiw I'm certainly not suggesting that I think that it should happen - but (provided it remains reasonably available) I'm convinced this box set will end up eclipsing every one of the individual albums proper as the "must own" Fall title.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link
1. Extricate2. The wonderful and Frightening3. This nations saving grace4. The one with Glam Racket and Free Range and that...5. other6. other
But, yeah.
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
It's definitely a mistake! Some people just don't like the Fall.
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I know it'sa mistake but they somehow make it work for them.
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, Koogs didn't say he didn't like The Fall, just that these songs aren't his idea of a good Fall Peel Session
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
More like MES wouldn't let them re-record it, "That'll do ya bunch of fuckin' wankers, who do you think we are, fuckin' Yes?"
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
have just noticed that my mp3 cdr, lovingly ripped from the box at home, contains a howler of a typo in Strife Knot id3 tags...
> Still baffled as to how Koogs could be left cold-ish by at the very least New Puritan and Hip Priest
both a touch early for me, i think. first thing i bought was Bend Sinister and ended up with the previous 2 and the next 6 or 7 (with the odd gap). that's my era.
oh, btw, have people noticed the frank skinner is using No Bulbs as theme music? he did a great interview with MES a few years ago, so i guess he's a fan. wonder what he thinks of brix and her gok wan support slot...
― koogs, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link
that said, i just bought that step forward years comp and it's great. second dark age popped up on the walk home last night...
― koogs, Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Well if that's your era you should probably give the PS version of 'Australians In Europe' a spin. 'Extraordinary' barely begins to cover it.
A whole load of biz people are Fall fans. I'm always amazed how many people revel in MES' very peculiar style of English mania.
― glouis? (acoleuthic), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
It's like being in the Masons, it's private...
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I think Skinner is a late-life convert. iirc he went Fall crazy somewhere between 5 and 10 years ago, talking about how this was the band he'd been waiting to hear all his life.
Huh. Skinner also going to become president of the Samuel Johnson Society. Good for him.
― woof, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Just listened to the "New Puritan" demo from "Totale's Turn" followed by the Peel version. Thank f*ck it got a studio recording, turning it from a nice curiosity into a monstrosity. Followed by the epic "New Face In Hell" it's an amazing one-two Peel punch.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 21 May 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
If you could distill the Fall down into one moment that would be their essence, it has to be New Puritan on the Peel Session. Its 30 years old and its still terrifying and brutal and alien and unforgiving. And wonderful.Wotcher mean what's it mean?
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 21 May 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^this is probably quite a good shout
― chamakhchivan (acoleuthic), Friday, 21 May 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yup
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Friday, 21 May 2010 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
am thinking I underrated Blindness on first listen - second is pretty sensational
glad with my top-13 choices, though. maybe in a few weeks Job Search and He Pep will shuffle discreetly off
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
The City Never Sleeps - Huge keys this time, on some horn preset, but with a pop beat and EVEN MORE Brix! She's actually singing properly on this one too.
It's Lucy Rimmer singing on this!
Nice thread though - I've been listening to this box a bit recently. LJ - I think you must be the only person in the world who likes the Fall version of This Perfect Day.
― Dr.C, Monday, 24 May 2010 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't agree there, Dr C. Firstly that session version rocks, really raw and garagey - it just sounds mentally, rattlingly pissed off. Secondly the single version of it, with Smith's voice sweeping between artifically tuned at a high pitch to a low one, is great. Difficult to find, sadly.
― GamalielRatsey, Monday, 24 May 2010 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Haven't heard the single. Weren't the Fall at a really low point when that JPS was recorded? I think it was round about the time of the US Tour fight and Nagle assault.
Blindness is monumental.
― Dr.C, Monday, 24 May 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, it's partly the timing of that session that makes it interesting. At the time it seemed, or certainly I felt, as if the future of The Fall was very much in doubt (perhaps this was foolish thinking in retrospect, but I remember doing a lot of head-shaking when people asked me if I thought they'd come back). There had been the spoken word record, and three gigs (of sorts) with a fill-in drummer and Julia Nagle (plus Mike Clarke as lion tamer), neither of which portended much, despite being excellent.
The session came out of nowhere really and what surprised about it was the sheer energy and violence of it. I've done this elsewhere, but in fine, it's one of my favourite Fall sessions, not least because of its unexpectedness.
Blindness wd be in a top ten Peel sessions recordings, no doubt.
― GamalielRatsey, Monday, 24 May 2010 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link
It's just such a foul, alien, fuck-off piece of music. So I side with it. 'Antidotes' and 'Bound Soul One' are staggering, unclean ordeals. 'Blindness' is one of the few tracks I could have given more credit to.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually wait, I really liked it in my review! Fine.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Just had another listen to that session. I agree that it's pretty unexpected & not really very much like any other Fall (or any anything), but I still don't like it. MES's legendary hatred of musicians maybe made him think that he could do without them entirely around this time. The only interesting thing is the vocal-heavy mix and that sounds like it's just to hide the lack of any useful guitar to drive things along. This just feels like Repetition, Repetition, Repetition to no effect - without either the spooky, spidery groove of Hip-Priest, WMTN or A Figure Walks (say) or the tension of say Blindness, it doesn't work.
Maybe Shake-off is passable. This Perfect Day is an atrocity.
― Dr.C, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link
This Perfect Day - Alien, scuzzy, garage-drawl, fearless. Yes, correct, this session is SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY. It's called me from some grotesque area and it doesn't give a fuck about music. It's not music, it's poetic expression of the arts of sound. Mesh-made mad and mind-muddle mead, mode. Glugged down with a kick in the fucking pants in store, always. I know there will be one here. I gird my loins and - it kicks.
^^^is there anything about this that suggest this isn't an atrocity?
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, the first two tracks off that session are the ones I really go for.
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
xp. True.
poetic-ah! expression-ah! Mind Muddle Mad-ah!
MES should sing your review.
― Dr.C, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link
There was only one song that reduced me to a helpless pile of word-association stream-of-consciousness blabbing
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:21 (thirteen years ago) link
(ha, and that was Antidotes off that session)
― acoleuthic, Monday, 24 May 2010 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Amazon have the MP3 version for £2.99 just now.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Complete-Peel-Sessions-1978-2004/dp/B00DX7Z3N6/ref=pd_ts_zgc_dmusic_digital_music_album_display_on_website_2?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&pf_rd_p=420631547&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=77197031&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0NRY6M7XCSXY1NTM96H8
― michaellambert, Monday, 26 August 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
That's almost worth getting even if you have the box already!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:02 (ten years ago) link
Well that's a no brainer then.
― millmeister, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link
This is my favorite ILM thread ever. And such a damn shame the lads don't record any radio sessions anymore, for anyone.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they recorded an extra track as a prezzie for John Peel on their last ever Peel Session (as it turned out)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
There was a small amount of 'other' BBC sessions (Kid Jensen or Mike Read or Janice Long or maybe Andy Kershaw), they probably should get compiled some place..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
I don't suppose the links work, but here's a list of them (comments section has dates and corrections)
http://symphonyofghosts.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/fall-live-on-wireless-non-peel-radio.html
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Discovered I had a £1 download credit on Amazon I didn't know about so I got this for £1.99.
― get your RAWKs off (onimo), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
http://www.visi.com/fall/news/pics/2013-08-28_No1inthecharts.jpg
― fit and working again, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
Which translates into #97 on the big chart.
― michaellambert, Monday, 2 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
Really? Hey Yeah!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link
Mind you, it does remind me when "Relationship and the Briefcases" got to number one in the Vitaminic "Alt/Lo-Fi" chart, because that week I bought two copies, one for me and one for the other guitarist on it.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 08:09 (ten years ago) link
ARE THERE ANY WHISPERS THAT THIS MIGHT COME OUT ON LP? HOW IS ONE SUPPOSED TO GET IT WITH NOTHING BUT A RECORD PLAYER? ITS NOT FAIR! PLEASE DO SOMETHING SOMEBODY
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 26 January 2018 07:56 (six years ago) link
OK, check the album chart today, this could be one of them if there are some in there...
― Mark G, Friday, 26 January 2018 09:27 (six years ago) link
24.09.80: Container Drivers – Jawbone And The Air Rifle – New Puritan – New Face In Hell
This is quite some radio session. Didn't realize, or had forgotten, that "Jawbone" dated from the "Grotesque" era.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Friday, 26 January 2018 09:39 (six years ago) link
OK, check the album chart today, this could be one of them if there are some in there...This could be one of what if there are which in where?
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link
there could be some fall lps in the new album chart (published in about an hour)
and if there are some in there then one of that some in there could be the peel session box.
― koogs, Friday, 26 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link
that seems... wildly unlikely
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link
though tbf there are three copies from 3rd-party sellers on Amazon. If someone pays the £732 asking price that counts as 2000 sales, right?
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
Nothing in album or single chart that I can see
(And downloads count now, don't forget)
― koogs, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link
Ah well
― Mark G, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
(And downloads count now, don't forget)Which e-tailers have it for download? I only tried Amazon, iTunes/Apple, 7digital and Boomkat, but I thought that should have been a representative sample
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link
Oh, I didn't mean the peel box specifically, was just pointing out that you don't need to buy CDs for something to chart.
(In fact, don't streams also count now?)
No idea where this stuff is available. Maybe the obvious interest will mean that improves.
― koogs, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:40 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing that if Discogs/second-hand sales were chart eligible, there'd be a few in this week.
― Mark G, Friday, 2 February 2018 08:15 (six years ago) link