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A band that were so ubiquitious, nearly everything that needs to be said, has been.

Or has it?

Say something regarding the Beatles that as far as you can reasonably ascertain, has not been said.


OK, my go.

The "With/Meet the beatles" album. One day, I thought, that's a joke isn't it? that picture, I mean. I.e. Ringo is not that much smaller than John/Paul/George (who were the exact same height at the time)

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

beatles records make good toilet paper for cyborg platypi

latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I read somewhere recently that in 1966 Bowie got his hands on an acetate of Velvet Underground & Nico and was blown away. Which is weird because he then went on to record The Laughing Gnome, after he'd been blown away by VU! Which leads me to wonder when the Beatles first heard VU and what they thought of them - considering that the Beatles and VU are probably the two most influential bands of all time. Did they hear VU before Sgt Pepper? Does the White Album show some VU influence (Helter Skelter, Revolution 9)?

climate of punter, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Perhaps there are some new things said in this thread:

Say Something Interesting About The Beatles

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

All their songs were written by Francis Bacon.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wasn't b.epstein explorin signing the VU around the time he died?

(warning: i may have dreamt this)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Brian Epstein was assassinated by the Mossad.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

After comparing their solo trajectories, one concludes that if the Beatles stayed together into the mid-70s, they would have almost surely become a synth-driven disco group.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr was actually a pseudonym for Bobby Kennedy. They chose an out-of-work binman to play him at public appearances.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:37 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Is "A Day In The Life" a ripoff of "Mrs O'Leary's Cow"?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Beatles' performance on the Ed Sullivan show was used by aliens to broadcast mind control rays.

latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

wasn't b.epstein explorin signing the VU around the time he died?
(warning: i may have dreamt this)


-- mark s (mar...) (webmail), March 9th, 2005 1:31 PM. (link)

No, you are quite right. The story was, he received a copy of their album and took it away with him to Ibiza or somesuch on holiday with a friend. On his return, he said it will always bring back happy memories. Guess he liked it.

I assume the Beatles heared it too.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

George Harrison had five spleens.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If you play "Drive My Car" backwards, you can clearly hear a seven digit numerical code which is actually a bank account number at Zurich Inernational Savings. If you call Z.I.S. at Wednesday morning at 5:00 AM (y'know, as the day begins)....you'll get an answering machine (they don't open until 9:00 am).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr played all the drums on Rammstein's Sehnsucht album. Only three people know that, and the Mossad has already "taken out"" two of them.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Run, Alex. Run!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:03 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Paul McCartney is a huge fan of GG Allin.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That talking between I'm so Tired and Blackbird - Sure, if you play it backwards it says Paul is Dead - but if you play it diagonally it actually predicts, quite clearly, that "someday Emanuel Lewis will have a strong comeback career as a serious actor, playing John Lennon in a film about his rise to fame as a bird-tamer in Equador."

So, you know all that masking stuff was bullshit.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

George Harrison almost acrimoniously quit the Beatles to go join Ted Nugent's Amboy Dukes, until he lapsed into a near fatal sugar coma (that would later inspire his White Album track, "Savoy Truffle").

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr played all the drums on Magical Mystery Tour completely in the nude.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The animal noises in the fade-out of "Good Morning" on the Sgt.Pepper's.. album were all vocally simulated by venerable Shakespearean thesbian extraordinaire, Sir John Gielgood.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They never did anything as good as Mr Brightside by The Killers.

Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

John Lennon made a rare, post-death cameo on Duran Duran's Rio album, but his contributions were stripped after an argument concerning the addition of a sitar solo on "New Religion".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They never made an album as good as Dog Man Star by Suede.

Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Oh come now, even fuckin' Birdland made a better record than Dog Man Star. Get ahold of yourself, man.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Walrus was Bernard "Pretty" Purdie.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

There are a fair number of groups nowadays trying to approximate the bass / drum sounds of Beatles records (cf. the Fiery Furnaces' 1st LP, for one).

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

according to lou reed in dave thompson's (or simpson's? can't remember) 'beyond the velvet underground' epstein offered to manage them but they turned him down as they knew he would always concentrate more on the beatles. sounds apochryphal to me.

in 1966 paul mccartney told roger mcguinn to ditch the rickenbacker and granny glasses as he didn't much like them.

debden, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Should I? Shouldn't I? Oh, fuck it, why not. At least it's something *NEW*...

(I dunno, these schmucks off the Internet and their Exclusive! Undiscovered! Rarities!)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

During the Let It Be sessions, they discussed having Flava Flav guest rap on their next album.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dog Man Star is fab.

Here's another:

They never did a song as good as Little Animal by the Raveonettes which is quite possibly the second best song of the past ten years.

Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

PAUL you need is love.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Well, that's never happened before.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The walrus was George.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Ed Sullivan, a true patriot, recognizing the Fabs' true rivals not as those limey Stones, would introduce The Beatles on his show as "The BEACHles." Listen.

the hard structure of the world, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the title "Flaming Pie" was actually suggested by Yoko

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

.. only she didn't say "Flaming"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Or "Pie", come to think of it...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They left a legend that will last a lunchtime. No wait.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Beatles were responsible for the famous Kia Ora 'too orangey for crows' advertising campaign, but refused to take credit after a disagreement about the style of the crow's hats ended in an emotionally distressed and bare-chested Paul McCartney being forcibly removed from one focus group by police and delayed the UK launch of the popular fruit squash by over a decade.

coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Exactly who the "fifth Beatle" was has been endlessly debated. Yet virtually no-one has ever called into question my personal status as the 315477th Beatle.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I meant crows', obviously

coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

I think he already sold those rights, as he couldn't afford to keep them. You have to pay quite an amount for a good lawyer, you know...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

> "someday Emanuel Lewis will have a strong comeback career as a serious actor..."

Coincidentally (or not!), today is little Emmanuel's birthday.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

If you sit motionless and stare at the front cover of Magical Mystery Tour upside-down in a mirror long enough, you'll eventually die of starvation.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

An estimated 80% of heroin addicts started by using cannabis. And a startling 98% of alcoholics started with milk.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 9th, 2005.

I love Geir! So true...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

OTOH, "Penny Lane" "Paperback Writer" "Eleanor Rigby" "Drive My Car" and a thousand other Beatles classic are actually kinda lame

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The bridge is the best thing about "I'm Looking Through You"

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

The 'pre-' version without the bridge is better.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles. i don't know how long you expect it to go on.

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

It reads like a Minor Threat song without the bridge.

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 20:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Stephen King shot John Lennon.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles.

Not as much as it ought to. Other than progrock, pomp pop and Britpop, not a lot of post 60s music has built that much on The Beatles.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

(And powerpop obv)

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Nirvana

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Geir, contemplating the musical future you envision is boring me to near suicide.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

I hope you have fun listening to Ben Folds and the Friends theme song for the rest of your life.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

pomp pop?

(tell me less)

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Pomp Pop Defined.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

ta.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

There's no frickin' way John is saying "cranberry sauce" at the end of "Strawberry Fields."

At about age 10, after finally recieving the courage to listen to it all the way through with headphones (cos the end is really fucked up sounding and scared the shit out me at age 7 and kept me up at night and I literally had bad dreams about those sounds haunting me), I thought he was saying "clap very slow."

billstevejim, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Man, I was on fire on this thread.

Alex in NYC

I confess to nearly laughing out loud at my Magical Mystery Tour comment above. (And I usually hate encountering my old posts

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Did anyone else know about this?!

timellison, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:07 (four years ago) Permalink

When the Rush vs. Yes vs. Beatles poll happens, I expect the Beatles will win.

clemenza, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:10 (four years ago) Permalink

xp - now I want a Mellotron even more than i used to.....

Lee626, Monday, 6 August 2012 07:25 (four years ago) Permalink

In my early teens the family had a CD player that had buttons for intro and repeat. You could program a single song and use both buttons so that it'd play the first ten seconds endlessly. I discovered this worked rather well with "Girl," such that you get asked "Is there anybody going to listen to my story all about the girl who came to stay?" over and over. What was once a rhetorical question starts to seem rather desperate after a while.

― eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

ROFLing at this.

Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Monday, 6 August 2012 09:20 (four years ago) Permalink

There was no fifth Beatle, the substitutes all wore the number 8 shirt

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Did anyone else know about this?!

wow no! wacky

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:41 (four years ago) Permalink

Beatles guitarist George Harrison was the starting linebacker for the 1968 New York Giants. He recorded 40 tackles and 4 1/2 sacks.

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:48 (four years ago) Permalink

The Beatles formed in Tower, Minnesota in 1958. They started out playing polkas at local dance halls, but quickly added popular country & western songs of the day to their repertoire.

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:51 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the intro to the Kinks Phenomenal Cat is a mellotron preset too. And all of the flute and guitar in that song are also mellotron.

wk, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

The Beatles' Paul McCartney is a lifelong devotee of knitting. He recently opened an online website, Paulspets.com, which specializes in selling handmade knitwear for pets.

Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:52 (four years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

this looks like it's going to do the opposite

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 01:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

Little did he know the bloke on his right would be making movies about his career

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 03:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

i think it'll be an interesting doc, there hasn't been anything that explicitly focused on one topic like that and while there is a lot of live footage around, it's of varying quality. but i'm a sucker for all this shit.

akm, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 05:00 (nine months ago) Permalink

Why hasn't The Beatles at the Hollywood Bowl ever been reissued on CD? Surely by now they have the technology to reduce the crowd noise further than was possible in 1977, and if not - shouldn't there be enough other live recordings out there of sufficient quality that they could cobble a real live (as in, before a paying audience) album together?

Anyway, cross your fingers that there's a soundtrack to the above-previewed doc. Even if there isn't, we already know that they're charismatic enough personalities to carry a feature-length, even one by Mr. Beautiful Mind himself.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 06:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

anyone here read the Albert Goldman book on Lennon? out of print, but worth buying online for a buck... very juicy, very trashy, extremely homoerotic...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 06:39 (nine months ago) Permalink

Was there anything made of the longterm Fluxus artist choosing to marry a populist pop star?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 07:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have that Albert Goldman book.

It's nowhere near as 'damning' as Bono (etc) have made out, it gives an awful lot of bumf and expects you to unpick it.

e.g. that whole "John hit Stu and that's why Stu died", bottom line there is that nobody thought that except for John himself, possibly racked with guilt over some fight they had.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 09:09 (nine months ago) Permalink

urgh Goldman. i'm glad that book's pretty much been forgotten about in the UK. his lack of any decent footnotes AT ALL tells the real tale there imo.

the recently-edited-together live footage from Shea on the '1+' dvd (as a video for Eight Days A Week) looks killer, and seems to suggest the Shea footage has been remastered/cleaned-up for an upcoming release. possibly tied with the Ron Howard film?

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:30 (nine months ago) Permalink

that book is poorly sourced rubbish

akm, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 14:22 (nine months ago) Permalink

It only had the one edition, I believe.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

oh yeah, a lot of it is bullshit, but it's a great, grim read. like the opening scene of Lennon in the late-70s "smoking thai stick" in his Howard Hughes period. dark as all hell. and Goldman is just an insane writer, he's so nasty and obviously repressed - it comes out in the prose. a lot of very flowery penis descriptions and allusions

flappy bird, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:50 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah the goldman book isn't necessarily "good" as a reliable biography of an actual person but it's kind of a sick masterpiece. def remember being somewhat traumatized by a lot of it when i first read it as a teenage beatles fan. goldman's style is undeniably ridiculous and over-the-top but writing a 600+ page book without a single dull sentence in it is some kind of accomplishment.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

Did you read the Elvis book too, J.D.?

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:57 (nine months ago) Permalink

yeah, the elvis book is amazing and deplorable for similar reasons. for pure unadulterated goldman nastiness, though, you need his other elvis book:

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

That Goldman book opening: it's a young guy (named Kit?) couriering heroin up to John's Dakota apartment and the ensuing wasted ennui he sees, iirc. V memorable, given I read it 20+ years ago.

albvivertine, Thursday, 23 June 2016 06:51 (nine months ago) Permalink

It's been a while since I read it but I remember the Goldman book being massively entertaining, and actually pretty good when talking about the actual music.

nate woolls, Thursday, 23 June 2016 07:12 (nine months ago) Permalink

feel like the mark lewisohn book was so good and actually made the early days beatles story feel fresh i never want to read anyone else write anything about the beates except his next 2 upcoming books

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

^^^

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

ha i should give it another try, got a little exhausted around page 150 ... though I"m excited for that level of detail on the actual Beatles years

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Lewisohn was very enthusiastic about the prospects for this film.

timellison, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

"Something new about the Beatles"

Mark G, Friday, 24 June 2016 11:05 (nine months ago) Permalink

Cool band

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 June 2016 02:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

As far as I can gather, the people of the Philippines are still more than a bit embarrassed about the way the Beatles were handled here.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 05:55 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, "We're sorry about Imelda Marcos", they've said that a few times.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 07:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

#9 Dream sounds an awful lot like an Ariel Pink song, doesn't it? (or the other way round if you're offended by this comparison)

niels, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 11:51 (one week ago) Permalink


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