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A band that were so ubiquitious, nearly everything that needs to be said, has been.

Or has it?

Say something regarding the Beatles that as far as you can reasonably ascertain, has not been said.

OK, my go.

The "With/Meet the beatles" album. One day, I thought, that's a joke isn't it? that picture, I mean. I.e. Ringo is not that much smaller than John/Paul/George (who were the exact same height at the time)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

beatles records make good toilet paper for cyborg platypi

― latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

I read somewhere recently that in 1966 Bowie got his hands on an acetate of Velvet Underground & Nico and was blown away. Which is weird because he then went on to record The Laughing Gnome, after he'd been blown away by VU! Which leads me to wonder when the Beatles first heard VU and what they thought of them - considering that the Beatles and VU are probably the two most influential bands of all time. Did they hear VU before Sgt Pepper? Does the White Album show some VU influence (Helter Skelter, Revolution 9)?

― climate of punter, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 12:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Perhaps there are some new things said in this thread:

Say Something Interesting About The Beatles

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

All their songs were written by Francis Bacon.

― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

wasn't b.epstein explorin signing the VU around the time he died?

(warning: i may have dreamt this)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Brian Epstein was assassinated by the Mossad.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

After comparing their solo trajectories, one concludes that if the Beatles stayed together into the mid-70s, they would have almost surely become a synth-driven disco group.

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr was actually a pseudonym for Bobby Kennedy. They chose an out-of-work binman to play him at public appearances.

― Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

Is "A Day In The Life" a ripoff of "Mrs O'Leary's Cow"?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Beatles' performance on the Ed Sullivan show was used by aliens to broadcast mind control rays.

― latebloomer: correspondingly more exaggerated mixing is a scarifying error. (lat, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

wasn't b.epstein explorin signing the VU around the time he died?
(warning: i may have dreamt this)

-- mark s (mar...) (webmail), March 9th, 2005 1:31 PM. (link)

No, you are quite right. The story was, he received a copy of their album and took it away with him to Ibiza or somesuch on holiday with a friend. On his return, he said it will always bring back happy memories. Guess he liked it.

I assume the Beatles heared it too.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

George Harrison had five spleens.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

If you play "Drive My Car" backwards, you can clearly hear a seven digit numerical code which is actually a bank account number at Zurich Inernational Savings. If you call Z.I.S. at Wednesday morning at 5:00 AM (y'know, as the day begins)....you'll get an answering machine (they don't open until 9:00 am).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr played all the drums on Rammstein's Sehnsucht album. Only three people know that, and the Mossad has already "taken out"" two of them.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

Run, Alex. Run!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

Paul McCartney is a huge fan of GG Allin.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

That talking between I'm so Tired and Blackbird - Sure, if you play it backwards it says Paul is Dead - but if you play it diagonally it actually predicts, quite clearly, that "someday Emanuel Lewis will have a strong comeback career as a serious actor, playing John Lennon in a film about his rise to fame as a bird-tamer in Equador."

So, you know all that masking stuff was bullshit.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

George Harrison almost acrimoniously quit the Beatles to go join Ted Nugent's Amboy Dukes, until he lapsed into a near fatal sugar coma (that would later inspire his White Album track, "Savoy Truffle").

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ringo Starr played all the drums on Magical Mystery Tour completely in the nude.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

The animal noises in the fade-out of "Good Morning" on the Sgt.Pepper's.. album were all vocally simulated by venerable Shakespearean thesbian extraordinaire, Sir John Gielgood.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

They never did anything as good as Mr Brightside by The Killers.

― Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

John Lennon made a rare, post-death cameo on Duran Duran's Rio album, but his contributions were stripped after an argument concerning the addition of a sitar solo on "New Religion".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

They never made an album as good as Dog Man Star by Suede.

― Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh come now, even fuckin' Birdland made a better record than Dog Man Star. Get ahold of yourself, man.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Walrus was Bernard "Pretty" Purdie.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

There are a fair number of groups nowadays trying to approximate the bass / drum sounds of Beatles records (cf. the Fiery Furnaces' 1st LP, for one).

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

according to lou reed in dave thompson's (or simpson's? can't remember) 'beyond the velvet underground' epstein offered to manage them but they turned him down as they knew he would always concentrate more on the beatles. sounds apochryphal to me.

in 1966 paul mccartney told roger mcguinn to ditch the rickenbacker and granny glasses as he didn't much like them.

― debden, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Should I? Shouldn't I? Oh, fuck it, why not. At least it's something *NEW*...

(I dunno, these schmucks off the Internet and their Exclusive! Undiscovered! Rarities!)

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

During the Let It Be sessions, they discussed having Flava Flav guest rap on their next album.

― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

Dog Man Star is fab.

Here's another:

They never did a song as good as Little Animal by the Raveonettes which is quite possibly the second best song of the past ten years.

― Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

PAUL you need is love.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Well, that's never happened before.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

The walrus was George.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ed Sullivan, a true patriot, recognizing the Fabs' true rivals not as those limey Stones, would introduce The Beatles on his show as "The BEACHles." Listen.

― the hard structure of the world, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

the title "Flaming Pie" was actually suggested by Yoko

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

.. only she didn't say "Flaming"

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Or "Pie", come to think of it...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

They left a legend that will last a lunchtime. No wait.

― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Beatles were responsible for the famous Kia Ora 'too orangey for crows' advertising campaign, but refused to take credit after a disagreement about the style of the crow's hats ended in an emotionally distressed and bare-chested Paul McCartney being forcibly removed from one focus group by police and delayed the UK launch of the popular fruit squash by over a decade.

― coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

Exactly who the "fifth Beatle" was has been endlessly debated. Yet virtually no-one has ever called into question my personal status as the 315477th Beatle.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

I meant crows', obviously

― coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

I think he already sold those rights, as he couldn't afford to keep them. You have to pay quite an amount for a good lawyer, you know...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

> "someday Emanuel Lewis will have a strong comeback career as a serious actor..."

Coincidentally (or not!), today is little Emmanuel's birthday.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

If you sit motionless and stare at the front cover of Magical Mystery Tour upside-down in a mirror long enough, you'll eventually die of starvation.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

An estimated 80% of heroin addicts started by using cannabis. And a startling 98% of alcoholics started with milk.

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 9th, 2005.

I love Geir! So true...

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

OTOH, "Penny Lane" "Paperback Writer" "Eleanor Rigby" "Drive My Car" and a thousand other Beatles classic are actually kinda lame

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

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I don't think it's so bad if you hear it in the voice of rich parents trying to figure out why their daughter ran away after trying to buy her off for years.

― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

paul says in 'many years from now' that they wrote it together: "(john) was doing the Greek chorus, the parents' point of view: 'we gave her most of our lives/we gave her everything money could buy'."

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

also, how can you say "so evocative for paul" when he was writing stuff like for no one and and eleanor rigby and penny lane around that time??

Those are also especially evocative for Paul. They're the exception, not the rule. For the record, I'm one of the biggest Macca supporters I know - I just had issues with that one line.

And Pete, I do think the line makes sense if you imagine the parents saying it - something that's reinforced by the fact that John sings all of the parents' lines. I'd never noticed this before. I do believe you've saved the song for me!

― Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

paul says in 'many years from now' that they wrote it together: "(john) was doing the Greek chorus, the parents' point of view: 'we gave her most of our lives/we gave her everything money could buy'."

See, this is why I love ILM. I can now listen to this line with contentment.

― Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

you're content because john wrote it??

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm content because I'd never imagined that particular line as the parent trying to rationalize their daughter's departure - "oh well, fun is the one thing we couldn't buy for her."

― Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

parent -> parents

― Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

indeed - problem solved!

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Man, I was on fire on this thread.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

also, how can you say "so evocative for paul" when he was writing stuff like...

Ah, I think you misread Davey D. He meant that the line was evocative for paul! Since he knows that it was, obv "Davey D." is Paul.

...when he was writing stuff like for no one...

oh come on, even though Davey could only describe his own feelings about the lyrics, I'm sure he was aware that there was an audience out there as well.

― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

1st comment is funny but you lost me on the 2nd one!

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if this has been said, but the version of "I'm Looking Through You" is much, much better on Anthology 2, not just for the superior arrangment and sonics, but because it doesn't yet have the bridge, which is weak musically, and which corners the song into being about love, when it can be about many other kinds of relationships otherwise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eedLQ006ciM

Bridge:
Why, tell me why, did you not treat me right?
Love has a nasty habit of disappearing overnight

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

I prefer the Anthology versions of 'Something' and 'Can't Buy Me Love'. 'Something' has more of a sitar-y guitar and a new verse, and 'Can't Buy Me Love' has a call and response structure that works really well, too bad it was scrapped.

― musically, Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

IIRC john wrote all of the parents' chorus and took it largely from things his famously cranky aunt mimi used to tell him ("never a thought for ourselves...")

― J.D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 00:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

There is nothing new to say about The Beatles. But their music is still great nevertheless. Both as a listen in itself, and as a source of musical influence for new generations of musicians to come.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

You are a true patriot.

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

musical influence for new generations of musicians to come.

That could very well be needless wishful thinking, Geir. I say let young people create their own music.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

They will anyway.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 02:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ah, I think you misread Davey D. He meant that the line was evocative for paul! Since he knows that it was, obv "Davey D." is Paul.

Have you heard my amazing new album, Memory Almost Full? It like, a stunning return to form, or something, y'know?

― Davey D, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I agree about the bridge cornering the song lyrically, but I prefer the original arrangement. Anthology 3's version of "Ob-La-Di" completely slays the White Album version, though.

― Davey D, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's been a long time since I've heard it, but I seem to remember the acoustic version of "All Things Must Pass" on "Anthology 3" being pretty amazing.

― novaheat, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

1st comment is funny but you lost me on the 2nd one!

Insert commas in your mind before and after "like".

― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

In my early teens the family had a CD player that had buttons for intro and repeat. You could program a single song and use both buttons so that it'd play the first ten seconds endlessly. I discovered this worked rather well with "Girl," such that you get asked "Is there anybody going to listen to my story all about the girl who came to stay?" over and over. What was once a rhetorical question starts to seem rather desperate after a while.

― eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

You know, I read recently that Paul wrote "for no-one" while on holiday abroad (switzerland?) with Jane Asher.

Must have been one hell of a downer holiday!

― Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

I say let young people create their own music.

Yes. But based on the legacy of The Beatles. Just like Beethoven created his own music based on the legacy of Mozart and Haydn.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

The bridge is the best thing about "I'm Looking Through You"

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

The 'pre-' version without the bridge is better.

― Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles. i don't know how long you expect it to go on.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

It reads like a Minor Threat song without the bridge.

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 20:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

Stephen King shot John Lennon.

― Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 21 June 2007 21:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

but geir there have already been generations that have done something with the legacy of the beatles.

Not as much as it ought to. Other than progrock, pomp pop and Britpop, not a lot of post 60s music has built that much on The Beatles.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

(And powerpop obv)

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Nirvana

― Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Geir, contemplating the musical future you envision is boring me to near suicide.

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope you have fun listening to Ben Folds and the Friends theme song for the rest of your life.

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 22:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

pomp pop?

(tell me less)

― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Pomp Pop Defined.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

ta.

― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

There's no frickin' way John is saying "cranberry sauce" at the end of "Strawberry Fields."

At about age 10, after finally recieving the courage to listen to it all the way through with headphones (cos the end is really fucked up sounding and scared the shit out me at age 7 and kept me up at night and I literally had bad dreams about those sounds haunting me), I thought he was saying "clap very slow."

― billstevejim, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

Man, I was on fire on this thread.

Alex in NYC

I confess to nearly laughing out loud at my Magical Mystery Tour comment above. (And I usually hate encountering my old posts

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Did anyone else know about this?!

― timellison, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

When the Rush vs. Yes vs. Beatles poll happens, I expect the Beatles will win.

― clemenza, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:10 (9 months ago) Permalink

xp - now I want a Mellotron even more than i used to.....

― Lee626, Monday, 6 August 2012 07:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

In my early teens the family had a CD player that had buttons for intro and repeat. You could program a single song and use both buttons so that it'd play the first ten seconds endlessly. I discovered this worked rather well with "Girl," such that you get asked "Is there anybody going to listen to my story all about the girl who came to stay?" over and over. What was once a rhetorical question starts to seem rather desperate after a while.
― eatandoph, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

ROFLing at this.

― Quickly, take hold of my hand, asshole! (dog latin), Monday, 6 August 2012 09:20 (9 months ago) Permalink

There was no fifth Beatle, the substitutes all wore the number 8 shirt

― Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

Did anyone else know about this?!

wow no! wacky

― giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

Beatles guitarist George Harrison was the starting linebacker for the 1968 New York Giants. He recorded 40 tackles and 4 1/2 sacks.

― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

The Beatles formed in Tower, Minnesota in 1958. They started out playing polkas at local dance halls, but quickly added popular country & western songs of the day to their repertoire.

― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the intro to the Kinks Phenomenal Cat is a mellotron preset too. And all of the flute and guitar in that song are also mellotron.

― wk, Monday, 6 August 2012 17:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

The Beatles' Paul McCartney is a lifelong devotee of knitting. He recently opened an online website, Paulspets.com, which specializes in selling handmade knitwear for pets.

― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

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