DJ RUPTURE'S TOP 5 PROBLEMS WITH TOP 10 ALBUMS OF THE YEAR LISTS

bang-up job beccy

whiney, i don't get it, what's funny about rupture's list?

and really? blurbs of a sentence or two have achieved TLDR status?

― pshrbrn, Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It was funny to me because I thought the initial post was like a diatribe against boring artist top 10 lists and then he goes and does a boring artist top 10 list.

But I was wrong. Milton Parker pointed out to me that I just misread the initial post. And, btw "misread" is really "didn't really read"

I took back my LOL like two posts down.

What's boring about the list?

it's tl!

"misread" is really "didn't really read"
guess is "misread" you in the same way. sorry!

("guess i," i mean.)

worth reading every year.

Various Artists: Give Me Love: Songs of the Broken Hearted, Baghdad 1925-29

What is this? I don't remember anything about it. Will have to investigate.

This thread is most valuable for the posted DJ Rupture album list.

dj rupture was killin it when i saw him live

just followed him on twitter. rupture's one of the most interesting, thoughtful artists around.

i saw him live & the girls i brought were bored \oO/ all the dudes were excited to hear joy orbison out tho

lol he played live here last month & totally killed it - even girls seemed to like it

the girls i brought preferred the opening dj who was playing more danceable ish like in this vein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSgcOuh9j7Y

I find his live sets pretty hit or miss. His mixtapes are much more consistent--although Solar Life Raft was a bit draggy compared to his better ones.

Deej that Bag Raiders tune is good (I like how they're going increasingly mersh clubby) but this one is their classic I think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feA64wXhbjo

Then there are the hardcore music fans with a reasonably well-paying day job, honorable folks who actually purchase CDs by artists they like. These same people probably vote regularly in local and national elections, and if their savings aren't tucked away in some sensible investment portfolio yet, they will be soon.

...spot on, unsurprisingly.

i saw him live & the girls i brought were bored \oO/ all the dudes were excited to hear joy orbison out tho

― *plop*ism rules (deej), Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

in world of young women

[my]

i saw him dj recently and thought he was really good - afraid i was too busy dancing to work out the gender breakdown of the rest of the dancefloor

will try better next time

so eye-rolly when ppl act like im saying that NO ONE WAS DANCING -- IT WAS QUIET AS A STUDY HALL

obv music nerds who know who dj rupture is & are feeling the latest in dubstep tracks blended into reggaeton into night slugs or w/e are gonna be feeling it .... girls or guys ... just sayin, i invited some girls & was like "yeah the dj is a big deal / covered in nyer / travels all over the world" etc. & then they were having fun when the 1st guy was on playing some populist dance ish, then when rupture came on w/ his world music thing it just didnt feel like he was maintaining the vibe & he lost folks who werent already in it

i guess the gender thing is a BIT of a troll -- i mean, i thought his mix was 'interesting,' musically, but as a dancer it didnt really hold my attention either

the ppl i invited werent 'music nerds' theyre, like, elementary school teachers who like going out to dance on weekends & if you cant see why rupture wouldnt appeal to ppl who dont really care about how many difft countries hes sampling then yr being intentionally obtuse imo

it was the dubstep stuff that toally lost them -- that stuff is, like, hard work to dance to! you have to be invested in that kind of groove -- its alienating

is funny that a lot of djs seem to think dubstep-based stuff is malleable enough to mix up with other stuff (i think in many cases it is) when as you say it can be as 'alienating' as angry dnb

well it raises the question of whether dude wants to be an "everybody fun time" dj or a guy who's being , i guess, a bit more didactic with his dj sets? i don't really have an opinion either way, i do hate it when djs ignore what the crowd clearly wants, but at the same time i can see that /rupture is on a bit of a different mission

i mean thats the hard part about DJing! ppl venerate harvey partly because he'll spin a set where you know zero tracks but he sequences/selects so well that it doesnt matter ... thats incredibly hard to do

fair point!

i mean its fine if rupture wants to spin for rupture fans -- i just felt a lil sheepish inviting ppl who arent really into that kind of thing like "you guys will have a good time" & then they're all like :-/

i'm not sure i'd take that sort of casual dancer to a dj rupture show?

also clowning dubstep for being ~DIFFICULT~ music that only BOY NERDS are into doesn't work when, y'know, we get top 10 dubstep hits these days

on your island nation of boy nerds

i think for my personal taste the combination of eclecticism w/out the sparks of a, like, common aesthetic net (like balaeric or quiet storm or...etc) with obscurity make his sets harder to dance to for extended periods ... if he stuck w/ obscurity but kept a common groove (an all-uk funky set or w/e), or if he was all over the place but was dropping in more cheese/pop remixes (& the occasional wu sample sorta has the opposite effect, i think), then it would feel more 'balanced' for the kind of set i like to go out & dance all nite to

but otoh i do think his sets are interesting/educational. damning w/ faint praise maybe, but im serious about not being bored -- just not really feeling compelled to dance

naw i felt kinda the same way when i saw him...

i'm not sure i'd take that sort of casual dancer to a dj rupture show?

― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

haa. id think the 'casual dancer' is the guy downloading dubstep shows & checking out rupture live at the empty bottle, not the teachers who go dancing at evil olive every weekend

but that jab aside i know what you mean & i realize that now -- i guess i just had been given a diff impression abt his sets

max OTM

u can dance in olive gardens in chicago??

only the evil ones

when you're there, you're family

evil olive is a palindrome :O

Ned Rag evil Olive Garden

~whoa~

amazing

O:

did we just discover we're in the matrix or something

Ned Rag evil Olive Garden is also an anagram of

Ned. A Dealer, Glove Virgin.

Ned: A Gargled Revive Lion

"common aesthetic net (like balaeric or quiet storm or...etc) with obscurity make his sets harder to dance to for extended periods"

I actually totally agree with this btw. /rupture is a great dj, but he's not really a "let's all dance all nite to this great dj" kind of dj.

it just didnt feel like he was maintaining the vibe

yeah ok this is a thing -- the one time i saw him dj i did think he maintained a vibe, and i danced and kept dancing, and the people around seemed to be doing the same, but it's true that it was ~eclectic~. But unless I'm going out to a house or techno night I don't really expect the music to stick to one groove or one theme? And while recognising stuff is pretty fun, it isn't exactly essential. (also i fucking hate the whole 'cheese' thing)

idk, i really like dancing, so.

Ned: A Gargled Revive Lion

This I can see.

i love /rupture's original post. great think-piece by a respectable musician (which, i suppose, is simply par for the course for his writing). if i were to respond, in the midst of making my own year-end albums list, it'd be as such:

# 3. First off: pretty much nobody who bothers to write up a "top X albums of the year" list actually buys albums.

agree this is lame. which is why i don't put albums on my year-end list that i haven't gone out of my way to buy, listen through and absorb thoroughly (i.e. at least 4-5 times, often many more).

#1 My first problem with top 10 music lists is that applying hierarchies to artistic endeavors is absurd at best. It's like talking about the weather using superlatives ("April 9th was the best sunny day of 2004!").
I'm not into dudes with big record collections pretending they can build a canon, or even wanting to try.

agree. what if it's not positioned as canon-building, or applying a hierarchy, but more along the lines of, "here's a snapshot of what i really enjoyed listening to in 20xx"?

#4 My fourth problem with top 10s is my lack of a problem. People ask me to write Top 10 lists, I oblige. Everybody needs filters. Everybody has new stuff to learn from people whose tastes they trust.

precisely. i read year-end lists to learn what people i trust have enjoyed in a given year (and then explore many of those albums myself). i write my own lists because lots of irl family/friends/acquaintances are well aware i have a deep, long-standing interest in music, and are curious what i've been listening to, or would recommend. for me, it's a basic crowd-sourcing exercise, in both directions.

#6 Problem number six: why start & stop at music? I want to see anybody's Top 10 Scary Pieces of Legislation Passed in 2004. Or the Top 10 Non-imaginary Threats to Healthy Democracies in 2004.

The Top 10 Everything of 2010
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2035319,00.html