The Sound of Music: Greatest Musical of All Time?

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Not the plot, the music:

1. Prelude and The Sound Of Music
2. Overture and Preludium (Dixit Dominus)
3. Morning Hymn and Alleluia
4. Maria
5. I Have Confidence
6. Sixteen Going On Seventeen
7. My Favorite Things
8. Do-Re-Mi
9. The Sound Of Music
10. The Lonely Goatherd
11. So Long, Farewell
12. Climb Ev'ry Mountain
13. Something Good
14. Processional and Maria
15. Edelweiss
16. Climb Ev'ry Mountain (Reprise)

If SoM is not the greatest musical of all time, what is?

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

ugh. tis all about Rocky Horror

lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

I would personally vote for Singing in the Rain, but looking at that list, Sound of Music does have some great songs

jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

eff a hammerstein
West Side Story pwns

1. Overture [Instrumental] Listen Listen
2. Prologue Listen Listen
3. Jet Song - The Jets Listen Listen
4. Something's Coming - Jim Bryant Listen Listen
5. Dance at the Gym Listen Listen
6. Maria - Jim Bryant Listen Listen
7. America - George Chakiris Listen  
8. Tonight {From West Side Story} - Jim Bryant Listen  
9. Gee, Officer Krupke! - The Jets Listen  
10. I Feel Pretty - Suzie Kaye Listen  
11. One Hand, One Heart - Jim Bryant Listen  
12. Quintet - Jim Bryant Listen  
13. Rumble Listen  
14. Somewhere - Jim Bryant Listen  
15. Cool - The Jets Listen  
16. Boy Like That/I Have a Love - Marni Nixon Listen  
17. Finale - Natalie Wood Listen  
18. End Credits [*]

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I would probably vote for Meet Me in St. Louis but that might just be because Judy Garland >>>>>>>>>>> Julie Andrews.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Looks like the Listen family is cleaning up on songwriting royalties

jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Cole Porter would choke out Rogers and Hammerstein.

Austin (Austin), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think you'll find the correct answer is 'paint your wagon'.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoops sorry about all the listens, that was a copy/paste from amazon

DAMN IT DAMN IT I AM SO STOOPIDz

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

1. Prelude and The Sound Of Music
2. Overture and Preludium (Dixit Dominus)

This actually reads more like the start of a prog album tracklisting.

3. Condemnation in D Flat
4. OVATIO! A Movement.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

BOWEL! A Movement.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dude, Broadway gold. Mandy Patinkin is there for you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Flashback to the times I'd visit London with my mother. We'd always go to a musical on those vacations (Sound of Music and Annie being my faves). I'd stand up in the middle of the show and sing along. I was 8/9 yrs old, I didn't yet realize there was such a thing as etiquette. :-)

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 16:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sound of Mucus is end-stage Rodgers & Hammerstein, and it shows. The most irritating of their superhits. (I was dragged to the film at least 3 times by the time I hit fourth grade, so that could account for my hatred.)

I'd likely vote for Carousel for R&H, Guys & Dolls among all Golden Age musicals.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

'once more with feeling'?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

'Cole Porter would choke out Rogers and Hammerstein'

Indeedy - my vote would be for Anything Goes

Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

what about Bert Williams--"In Dahomey," "Abyssinia," way back a hundred years ago?

I'm kind of kidding, but Jesus, "The Sound of Music" makes me vomit.

es hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like a couple things from SofM but vastly prefer Guys & Dolls or My Fair Lady.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

are we talking film or stage musicals here? cuz if its film I gotta go with Singin the Rain.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

One more vote for Cole Porter. R and H are fine but neither their tunes nor lyrics are as sophisticated. Kiss Me Kate is ace. As for the best musical, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg is my vote.

everything, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Cherbourg is something more than a mere musical. So I'd say "Mary Poppins" is best of all, not least of which because I can imagine every song being covered - well - by Tom Waits.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

I guess I'm biased b/c I was in two productions of Sound of Music by the time I was 12. But if you don't get anything at all out of "Edelweiss" I'm sorry but you're dead inside.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Highpoints of "Mary Poppins:"


8. Spoonful of Sugar - Julie Andrews
14. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious - Julie Andrews
16. Stay Awake - Julie Andrews
18. I Love to Laugh - Julie Andrews
20. Feed the Birds (Tuppence a Bag) - Julie Andrews
24. Chim Chim Cher-Ee/March Over the Rooftops - Julie Andrews
25. Step in Time - Dick Van Dyke
28. Let's Go Fly a Kite - Dave Tomlinson

Taking Sides: "Edelweiss" vs. "Feed the Birds"

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Broadway Melody of 1940 has both "Begin the Beguine" and "I Concentrate on You." I'd take either one over the entire R&H catalog.

Austin (Austin), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Feed the Birds" scared the shit outta me as a kid, probably cuz the Bird Lady (played by Ma Joad) looks like she's gonna be feed herself in about 5 minutes.

I read "musical" as "stage musical," which thanks to Disney recycling "Poppins" has now become.

Rodgers & HART certainly were sophisticated.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sound of Mucus is end-stage Rodgers & Hammerstein, and it shows.

Yeah - The Sound Of Music isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles. Carousel all the way for me.

Widen it, and I'm a big fan of posho Slade-Reynolds. Salad Days and Free As Air.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

where's the Fosse love!?!? Cabaret, All That Jazz, Sweet Charity...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Cherbourg is something more than a mere musical."

How, exactly?

everything, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 18:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

Phantom of the Opera?

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

clearly, it's mary poppins.

but i will also nominate dancer in the dark.

reo, Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh, anyone for grease!?

reo, Thursday, 3 February 2005 00:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fosse's the man. All That Jazz rulz.

"Once More With Feeling" is the only great recent musical.

Cole Porter--d'oh! And American in Paris has great stuff.

Anything with fred Astaire is a great musical, even if there's no music.

iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

I mean, if we're talking film I'm almost inclined to put "All That Jazz" ahead of "Singin in the Rain".

and what, no votes for "Velvet Goldmine"??!??

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

There's great stuff in it, but the studio's last minute edits make it pretty incomprehensible.

We just happened to watch "All That Jazz" the other night. Just amazing.

iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 01:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh shit, how about "a song is born" !?

reo, Thursday, 3 February 2005 05:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

"stop the planet of the apes, i want to get off."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 3 February 2005 08:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Into The Woods, people...

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 3 February 2005 09:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'd go for My Fair Lady, The Music Man or Pirates Of Penzance. Maybe Kiss Me Kate, but it's been a while since I've heard it.

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 3 February 2005 10:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

What about best ORIGINAL film musical, ie all songs written for the movie? I think that eliminates almost every one that's been mentioned save Phantom of the Paradise?

btw, The Lonely Goatherd and So Long, Farewell could be used on me for torture.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

another vote for UofC hear

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is a movie defined as something that shows in a theater?

If not, "Once More With Feeling" still wins by a landslide.

iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 17:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Sound of Music has a great story but I can't stand most of those songs. I'd rate Cabaret, Singing in the Rain, Rocky Horror, Hair, Top Hat, West Side Story hell even Evita, Man of La Mancha, and Jesus Christ Superstar over Sound of Music any day. But I guess in a broad popular sense Sound of Music is the "greatest ever." The Wizard of Oz would be a close contender though for popularity.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

Just for the record, if you don't give a rat's ass about Buffy (like, say, me) "Once More With Feeling" is a complete waste of time.

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

seriously though, mary poppins? aside from 'feed the birds' there's nothing 'musical' about it. rodgers has pooped out better melodies.

irrigation can save your people, Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wait wait wait wait -

where's the Fosse love!?!? Cabaret...

I thought Fosse was "just" a choreographer (& director) - Kander & Ebb wrote the songs for Cabaret, right?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Just for the record, if you don't give a rat's ass about Buffy (like, say, me) "Once More With Feeling" is a complete waste of time.

I love Buffy and I can't stand that fucking episode. I second the "complete waste of time."

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

If you love musicals I can't see how you couldn't love "WMWF" (although clearly, you guys have done just that.)

Whedon's commentary track alone supplies a nice checklist of influences worth following. The song Tara sings to Willow is the best Kate Bush song in years, the counter-point multi-melodies are prime, the 30s screwball pastiche is a hoot--I don't get the love lack.

iang, Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut

Matt Chesnut, Friday, 4 February 2005 00:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't get the love lack.

The music sucks and none of the actors can sing except for Anthony Head. It came across as a really forced and self-indulgent chance for the wannabe singers in the cast to show off their "musical talent." Plot wise, it's not even a particularly interesting Buffy episode. But then I suppose I don't really love musicals. I love certain musicals that happen to have great music (much of the stuff mentioned in this thread), great dancing (Fred Astaire, Gene Kelley, Fosse), a great story (Sound of Music, Cabaret, anything with Nazis really), or any combination of the above. But I don't just "love musicals" in the unconditional manner that would be necessary to enjoy that Buffy episode.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

I choose "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory"

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

I concur in Morbius' opinion with a separate vote for The Most Happy Fella

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think I agree with B2D.

I like Sound of Music, but there are better R&H works.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I mean, I agree about WSS pwning.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

OK, it took me a while to think about it but I have to go with the safe and obvious choice: Singin in the Rain.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was half tempted to say South Park: BLU myself, but I'm glad somebody else did. While not the best musical ever, it's probably the best constructed screen musical in many, many years (as I confirmed to myself the other day when I rewatched it).

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 4 February 2005 10:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Another good recent musical is 8 Women. Plus it has Catherine Deneuve and Ludivine Sagnier in it...a pity I can't speak French....

jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

If you love musicals I can't see how you couldn't love "WMWF" (although clearly, you guys have done just that.)

Strikes against OMWF:

1) The singing is atrocious.
2) The songwriting is nu-Broadway rock-opera hell.
3) Did I mention the singing is atrocious?

My favorite musicals:

West Side Story
Singin' In The Rain
Candide
Joseph and the Amazing Techniocolor Dreamcoat
South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
Chicago
Damn Yankees
The Lion King
My Fair Lady

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

7 years pass...

can you imagine how hard it must have been for wealthy land owning austrian families in the 1930s? those poor von trapps.

Mordy, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:24 (1 year ago) Permalink


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