Jimmy Eat World - Classic or Dud?

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Now here's a band I wouldn't mind seeing vault to superstardom. They're probably too emo (or not emo enough) to make it big, but this is seriously one great band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Didn't they already make it big? "The Middle" was #5 on the Billboard Hot 100, and was #1 on Billboard Modern Rock.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I mean, like, huge. Like, Blink-182 huge. Yes, I have lofty hopes for this band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Sweetness" is fantastic, easily my favorie single of theirs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sweetness indeed. Haven't heard any songs that match the good tunes on Bloody Americans though.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I like "The Middle," "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint."

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They are corny as all hell.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I also like "The Authority Song," "A Praise Chorus," their cover of the Wedding Present's "Spangle." And a few of their early 7"s are great. I like that guy's voice. And the "Middle" video, with pretty young people in their underpants. Ah, fuck it, classic.

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i think "Lucky Denver Mint" was on the Never Been Kissed SDTK!

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It was. A version of the video featured clips from the movie interspersed with them playing football with jocks or something. It was on the radio quite a bit during a summer I spent as a dishwasher.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I haven't really cared about anything I heard off the new album.

mi¢¢io (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

there is a blissful idiocy to their singles that remind me of andrew wk. or more appropriately andrew wk's kid brother who is a sissy. they need to hole up in a studio and make the emo Hysteria that Clarity and Bleen American only hinted at. maybe miccio could suggest an appropriate producer.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Mutt, Don Gilmore or Eric Valentine

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

they have a dumb name and the dude has a terrible haircut. that's just too much right off the bat to ask me to care further.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

OTM

Aaron A., Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i just noticed that Trombino produces Clarity.

that is a great album

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

We coulda just stopped this thread after this comment.

Though the idea of a Mutt produced JEW record is kinda novel, I think they'd need to revisit their songwriting before committing to it. Well-polished turds and all that.

Maybe if the dude took a hiatus and got accepted to Harvard...

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to Futures at all. I'm guessing that it's not worth it at all, even if I like Clarity.

I wouldn't mind Jim Adkins coming to school.

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward, but when I met Jim Adkins he was rather pleasant!

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Classic classic classic, in the way that some bands you love without considering them objectively Important or World-Changing or whatever, they just make me impossibly happy to hear them and I want to dance down the street singing along and sometimes even do, and my breath catches in my throat and everything feels for the space of sone song right.

About 50% of Futures is really good, I think; some of the rest is very meh.

cis (cis), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"The Middle" is greatness, but everything else I've heard from them was so-so or terrible (starting with Clarity).

I'll take the first couple of Get Up Kids albums for my whiny midwestern suburbanites fix.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i'd like them more if they weren't so goddamned tasteful.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward

tell us more!

chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Bleed American" is hard to dance to.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it's apparently quite easy to dance to if you're a pretty young boy or girl in underpants.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Some European video station the other day played like seven or eight back to back tracks featuring bands playing at parties where people were scantily clad. "Bleed American", Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar", some godawful song by Incubus...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 January 2005 00:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Complete dud. Every song I've heard from them is like eating a big bowl of air.

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:06 (twelve years ago) Permalink

About half of Clarity is classic and about half of Bleed American is classic, yet the band is oddly total dud.

suki suki suki (Alvaro Espinoza), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Their new song, "Pain," is possibly my favorite rock song of last year.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I find these guys a cut above in the genre that I'd get castigated to mention; mainly because there's so much terrible stuff floating about in there.

I thought 'Clarity' was excellent but the last one didn't do much for me, although I tried and tried because apparently I was missing out on something, according to some.

I bought 'Futures' cos I couldn't find anything else at the time. I played it twice and thought it was flaccid awfulness to the extreme. Something was telling me to persist, which I did, and it's becoming worthwhile with its hooks and harmonies. Yeah, so what, it's 'nice' but sometimes that suits.

Not really bothered by bad names and bad haircuts. I find it's the music that counts.

Who did the song " If Jimmy ate the world I'd be pretty pissed off" Made me laugh anyhow.

Lairy Hair (hullcity), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

have they ever explained why they did that? is it jew by accident or was it intentional?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"The Authority Song"?!? Do they cover Mellencamp?!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it's an original! that sounds like Jessie's Girl!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

weird.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

no weirder than mellencamp covering the bobby fuller four but changing the title and the songwriting credit!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

also, if i remember jimmy eat world circa 2001 correctly, "the authority song" was the one song of theirs i really loved. that's the one with all the classic power-pop call-and-response harmonies on it, right?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

are you referring to "i fought the law?" you think those songs sound the same?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

is it jew by accident or was it intentional?
Ya, they got together - distraught over the fact their label wasn't kosher with them naming the band "JEW" (already a compromise over their previous name "Jimmy Jew and the Hebrews") - and came up with "Jimmy Eat World" instead.

These guys went the same way as The Promise Ring for me. I had them on a pedestal and then they blew it. All their songs sound too similar now and they seem to have replaced their authenticity with production.

Pre Bleed American - Classic
Overall - DUD

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

(x-post)
i think they sound the same in the same way that "mystery train" and the carter family's "worried man blues" sound the same. steal a concept here, steal some words there, and your own chords, and voila! i have no problem with this. but i think the debt is plain as day.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

*add* your own chords, i mean.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh it's just appropriation, not stealing.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i agree. i also think that appropriation involves stealing. and i think it's ok. necessary, in fact.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i know i am just joshin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Trick Daddy stole "Let's Go" from Apples In Stereo!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think "The Middle" is a fantastic single. I knew a handful of people in college who used to big-up them Clarity-era, and who act all disappointed by them "selling out," but I never heard that record much, so I guess I don't care. I'll have to hear "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint" to see if I like them as much as "The Middle."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Plus, their acronym is JEW. That's funny!

(from one of Ryan Pitchfork's lowest moments)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

they always sounded like sell-out dumbass raspheads to me (which doesn't mean they can't make a good single or five). "Lucky Denver Mint" sounds MORE like Jamie Walters than "The Middle" does, and that's on Clarity!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

unless you're just gaga about timpani.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"The Authority Song" is about how the singer is in a bar and wants to hear "The Authority Song," so he plays it on the jukebox.

I think "Praise Chorus" is the one that cites the other lyrics -- "Crimson and Clover"; The first song from "Nothing Feels Good" by The Promise Ring; "Don't Let's Start" by They Might be Giants.

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's 'praise chorus'.

kickstart my rock'n'roll heart (cis), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward

tell us more!

-- chaki in charge (chaki.tim...), January 6th, 2005.

Mostly he just talked about how he really liked meditation, and a bit about Boston bands that were around when he first went to school. Nice enough guy, just impossible to get him to say anything really. Shy in a way that unnerves.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i have never heard these guys and they may be fantastic for all i know... but i do have a certain association in my mind, so i have to say i was pretty surprised to click on this thread and find out that it was not a joke.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What is your association?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

like a blink182 version of emo (which i don't know if i ever liked a band that would be appropriately termed emo... i liked at the drive in to a point, and i liked a sunny day real estate song once... and i've heard people call radiohead emo, but that doesn't seem right.)

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I would loveit if someone would explain to me what JEW has to do with emo. I keep reading or hearing that, but if this band is emo then what band isn't emo? It sounds like good ol' straight-ahead guitar-pop to me -- a good thing.

There's lots that I like about JEW, and Bleed American was a really good (pop) album. So was Clarity, for that matter. Futures -- I've listened to it through 3-4 times. The more attention I'm paying, the better it sounds; lots of craft there, and nice touches. But five minutes after the disc ends I can't remember a single song on it. (I probably heard Pain on the radio 5 times before I focused on what it was. And I still can't remember what it sounds like.) That's not a good thing.

These guys totally screwed themselves by waiting too long to sell something new after Bleed American finally took off.

Vornado (Vornado), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I would loveit if someone would explain to me what JEW has to do with emo.
The only thing not emo about them is the fact they haven't broken up.
How can you hear that whiney voice and not think it's emo???

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Don't agree. Using the guy from Dashboard Confessional's whiny voice as a baseline point, I'd say the guy from Jimmy Eat World only rates about 50% emo-whiny.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

listen to static prevails.

they used to do splits with christie front drive and the like. definitely a part of that "midwestern" emo sound. shimmering arpeggiated indie rock with a boner for loud/soft dynamics.

i don't want to get into an emo thing. go to fourfa.com

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Using the guy from Dashboard Confessional's whiny voice as a baseline point
That's hardly fair!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

what the fuck does dashboard confessional have to do with ordination of aaron or moss icon? today's "emo" has no musical connection to yesterday's emo. the term really should have died with sunny day and mineral. maybe even before.

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"i don't want to get into an emo thing"

DJ Mencap0))), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

thank you, mencap. sometimes i need to be pulled back.

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

new record comes out june 11

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:24 (four years ago) Permalink

Yay, but wtf is with that cover?

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:21 (four years ago) Permalink

marry poppins themed

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:22 (four years ago) Permalink

still better than the new Yeah Yeah Yeahs cover.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:29 (four years ago) Permalink

and here's a new song

sounds pretty good imo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I agree, that sounds very promising!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:43 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

there was some awful "tweet to unlock the stream" gimmick going on but it seems you can listen to the new record without advertising it now http://damage.jimmyeatworld.com/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (three years ago) Permalink

record is great btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

JIMMY EAT WORLD ANNOUNCES FUTURES
10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY HEADLINE TOUR
BAND CONFIRMS VINYL REISSUES
(PRE-ORDER AVAILABLE NOW)
STATIC PREVAILS, CLARITY, FUTURES TO BE REISSUED ON 180G COLORED VINYL


Santa Monica, CA - June 24th, 2014 - Jimmy Eat World has announced a fall North American headlining tour to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of their lauded album, Futures. Slated to kick off October 2nd at the Ventura Theater, the band will perform their 2004 release from front to back.

A listing of confirmed dates can be found below. Fan presales to begin Thursday, June 26th at 10am (local time), with public on sales commencing Friday also at 10am (local time). Additional dates to be announced soon.

Visit jimmyeatworld.com/tour for further details.

Jimmy Eat World will also reissue three titles on double LP via Universal Music Enterprises in partnership with SRCvinyl. Static Prevails will be released on August 19th, Clarity on September 2nd and Futures on September 30th. Remastered from the highest quality 16-bit/44.1 khz recording and cut as 33 1/3 RPM, each LP contains bonus song(s). Pressed by Pallas, in Germany, and mastered for the reissues by Kevin Gray.

All three titles are available for pre-order now at: http://shop.jimmyeatworld.com/ and www.srcvinyl.com. An exclusive pre-order bundle is available via Jimmy Eat World's website. In this bundle, fans will find a limited edition numbered t-shirt and LP, for each of the titles. The LPs will be for sale at all major and independent retail outlets in the US and Canada.

Pumped about the vinyl reissues, but why no Bleed American?

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Okay I'm probably among the bigger mid-period Jimmy Eat World stan on this board, but jesus fuck not every album needs to be celebrated with an anniversary guys.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:39 (two years ago) Permalink

i agree? but far as i can tell there are a ton of ppl who are all about futures

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:55 (two years ago) Permalink

unfortunately i don't think i'll get an invented anniversary tour

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:57 (two years ago) Permalink

fucking classic just for THE MIDDLE and its 1979-aping video. BLEED AMERICAN the song also geat. SWEETNESS might be their best song

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.
― m1cc1o, Friday, January 7, 2005 12:49 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SO FUCKING OTM

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (two years ago) Permalink

DROP D CITY

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

once in a while I go through their whole discography and start thinking they're the best rock band ever

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

sooo ready for a new jimmy eat world record

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

what an awful album title
love them tho

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

Wasn't crazy about the first advance single, but I like this! Excited for the new record now.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yup, same reaction here re: "Get Right" vs. this new one.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

I have decided that Futures is my favorite JEW album. Integrity Blues has higher highs but also 3-4 tracks I have no use for.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:21 (one week ago) Permalink

fav overall?

Spottie, Monday, 17 April 2017 17:27 (one week ago) Permalink

clarity will basically never be supplanted as my fav, but integrity is prob my second favorite jew album at this point. it's def their dreamiest

for some reason i have found myself in a lot of conversations about this band lately (i didn't even bring them up!)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:39 (one week ago) Permalink

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:21 (one week ago) Permalink

I think if "Disintegration" and "Shame" made it to Futures it would have been more warmly received, somehow.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:34 (one week ago) Permalink

"shame" is so good, prob the least ponderous slow song from those sessions

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:59 (one week ago) Permalink

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, April 17, 2017 11:21 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for calling this one out. hadn't really listened to that one intently. sweet track.

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:38 (one week ago) Permalink


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