― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 15:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
― captain easychord (captain easychord), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
like most (all) that goes under then name of grime.
most overrated genre of 2004!
― xenografia, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
― xenografia, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:44 (4 years ago) Permalink
most overrated genre of 2004!"
nah, it is overrated but theres some good stuff there. dubstep is generally the superior thing.
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
― captain easychord (captain easychord), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:46 (4 years ago) Permalink
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 16:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
― xenografia, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink
right or wrong?
― xenografia, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 17:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
― xenografia, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
I think that's the one, I'll hook you up later today. It's all about the "Dub Plate remix".
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
It is!
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 18:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
Toasty "the Knowledge" (Hot Flush)Search and Destroy "Food Chain" (Texture)Slaughter Mob vs. Search and Destroy "Saddam" (Soul Ja)
Check out the Search and Destroy pirate radio shows if you are in London, a friend hooked me up with a CDR of Dj Prior's set on there and it's really heavy, super cool stuff.
ps: people seem to be calling the above records/scene "breaks" (yeah, dumb name, I know) rather than dubstep proper, but anyway to my ears it sounds like slowed down (to 120 bpm) jungle purged of its breakbeats but with those heavy heavy basslines, ecstatic/dark strings, and vocal/percussive tidbits getting tossed into ominous delays and reverbs. In other words, menacing and rad.
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
destroy:horsepower productions, zed bias and any other lightweight wine bar shit.
― scg, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
― scg, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 20:55 (4 years ago) Permalink
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
I don't think I've ever been to a wine bar.
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
― scg, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:24 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:32 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's very Horsepower Productions also obv.
I have to disagree. The arrangement is much more whacked out whereas Horsepower is almost nu-jazzy - although maybe it's because I only listen to the dub (can't remember the a-side mix at all).
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:34 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
dubstep... money... don't make me laugh!
― martin (martin), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
This is was the beginning of dark swing. As the Groove Chronicles' "1999" and El-B/Ghost's "2000" suggest, these predate the Pay As U Go /Musical Mob strains of dark garage that grime evolved out of in 2001.
― martin (martin), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:17 (4 years ago) Permalink
February - Scientist, Youngsta, J Da Flex & mc Crazy DMarch - Plasticman, Kode9, Wonder & mc Crazy D
― Jon B, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
― i am right (cs appleby), Sunday, 30 January 2005 11:39 (4 years ago) Permalink
72 results found:
― DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
dj younsta - dubstep allstars volume 2 - features the massive neverland coming to vinyl on DMZ005 soon - also includes a variety of forthcoming hotness
DMZ004 - Coki - officer &
N-Type - Square Off
the new one from D1 (SOULJA008)
the utterly essential HYP003 - kode9's Kingstown
Benny Ill vs Dinesh & Mark One (VEHICLE5)
very old now but dub child's - voodoo tears it
plus many others - excellent period right now
check mr blackdown and mr dusk's keysound radio mix
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:33 (4 years ago) Permalink
And jed sent me Kingstown. Dusk and Blackdown's Keysound mix is REALLY good.
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:47 (4 years ago) Permalink
― don, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:52 (4 years ago) Permalink
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
I guess....
― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:02 (4 years ago) Permalink
t/f dubstep has fragmented in a way similar to what occurred with drum and bass?
― t (tricky), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:24 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
That track seems like a parody.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:27 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Except it probably isn't.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
I'd say false, but mostly cuz I'm not dubstep was ever coherent enough to be a good parallel with dnb/jungle in the first place.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:29 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Lucas I'm glad someone agrees with me about the Silkie album. In overall feel (though only partly in specific sound) it reminds me a lot of the second disc of Roni Size/Reprazent's first album, which is one of my favourite ever jungle albums but tends to be... damned with faint praise by a lot of people for very similar reasons - samey, too "straight" in its underlying adherence to the rhythmic approaches of the broader style to seem avant, but not actually straight enough to be dancefloor bangers. And, similarly, refined and jazzy and "musical" in ways that strike people as boring and obviously "insipid" oh noes. And yet... with both the grooves just seem so perfectly judged.
even the 'heavy' tracks with boring names like 'techno 22' have these awesome playful bits (like when it drops to just some frisky bongo before throwing in the happy "youve beat the level!" synth or whatever that sound is) that, instead of cheekily undermining the track, just give it some fun perspective
This bit is amazing - I agree with your description but specifically it's like completing a level in a game hosted by Stevie Wonder.
― Tim F, Friday, 30 October 2009 22:36 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
no problems with that wobble track that got posted earlier on. it does its job and does it a lot better than most. lots of fun!
― dog latin, Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:11 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
it goes on a bit though, dunnit?
― dog latin, Saturday, 31 October 2009 06:13 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 30 October 2009 22:29
You used to be able to move from Pinch to Loefah to Distance to Skream in the mix without changing the vibe at all. It was actually starting to splinter right as it first got big in 2007.
Skream used to be part of the experimental side, Pinch made some bangers. And Distance made Fallen, which is very eerie and beautiful. Its shocking how much things have changed, says the whiny 2004-8 head.
Tim was here before all of us really. I can see how Sully would look like an obvious endpoint if you started out listening to 2-step. Its just that that kind of really intricate style (Toasty does it too) is time consuming to produce. Toasty only puts out one single every couple years, whereas the Wobble crew crank them out.
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Saturday, 31 October 2009 09:50 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Yeah I love Toasty as well, though haven't heard any of his for a while (has he even done anything recently)?
― Tim F, Saturday, 31 October 2009 10:18 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
"You used to be able to move from Pinch to Loefah to Distance to Skream in the mix without changing the vibe at all."
And that vibe was for the most part. . . . yawnsome. I'm not going to lament that fracturing at all.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Saturday, 31 October 2009 14:05 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
For me 2-step is also the point where this kind of breaks-based music was at its most compelling/exciting. I like some broken beat and the bleepier broken downtempo stuff as well. Still totally blown away by Mala and by association Deep Medi I suppose, but I don't know actual tracks. I like what I've heard from Rustie and some Hyperdub stuff like that recent Darkstar single is very very good. Really like Shackleton and I've been meaning to check the Mordant Music lp. <-- it's hard to say what genre those are, which is pretty rad. I asked about the similarities to dnb because it seems like all of these steppy sub-genres have fragmented along similar lines: tuff electro, avant-jazz, populist anthems, etc.
I am listening to that Keepers of the Light mix right now Siah (the one you linked to in the funky thread) and it reminds me of FlyLo more than anything else. Pretty good! I like how the pressure is achieved through rhythm and weirdness instead of distorto-wobble.
― t (tricky), Saturday, 31 October 2009 19:50 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Last thing Toasty released was early last year, On Something was the track.
He's pulled down his Myspace and I can't find his VIRB.
He could have retired for all I know. Shame that.
2562 really really owns that broken beat / 2-step connection these days.
Which makes sense, considering he used to make bruk as Dogdaze.
Still need to check out his new album.
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Saturday, 31 October 2009 21:00 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
The stuff I've listened to (very, very briefly/preliminarily) of the 2562 and the Silkie album both sounds really great.
― EDB, Monday, 2 November 2009 16:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
http://rcrdlbl.com/artists/Harmonia__Eno_76/track/Sometimes_In_Autumn_Shackleton_Remix
Those of you who haven't heard this, you really should.
Shackleton's remix of Eno working with Harmonia. A dubstep remix of a synth based Kraut tune.
Between this and Mountain of Ashes on the new 3 EPs I'm pretty psyched to see where he's going right now. It sounds like he's learned a lot from remixing Villalobos, the tunes are happier and more linear. As Lex noted way way back there. When that first curtain of static drops its just spine tingling. People just don't get the man because his sound palette is in apocalyptic shades of gray, but these tracks contain an almost Dionysian throb to them. He uses dubstep's spatial sense with a hard edged minimal influence, think pissed off Luciano, like Peverelist without the techno superstructure.
These are deejay tools for a genre that doesn't exist yet.
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 08:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
enough with the fucking timbales or finger cymbals or whatever though, right? just program 1 track with completely new sounds plz.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 16:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
i like your Luciano/Peveralist equation though. i can def. hear that.
So Untold's new EP got a fairly ecstatic review on FACT. Anyone heard it yet?
― Number None, Tuesday, 3 November 2009 18:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
It's all on his myspace. Some interesting parts (with excellent use of cheeky scratching samples), some parts not as interesting. Need to give a more proper listen.
And yes, Shackelton, I love you, but even a few new sounds would be nice.
― EDB, Friday, 6 November 2009 03:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
remember when photek started using new sounds?
― cutty, Friday, 6 November 2009 03:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Yeah I like the same ol' sounds just fine.
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 6 November 2009 04:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Well, I don't want him to do a total about-face, it'd just be nice to hear a track or two where he diverged a bit, y'know, just for yucks.
― EDB, Friday, 6 November 2009 04:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
from blackdowns blog -
Geeneus has said in interview to me that he and Slimzee (an early champion of Benga), when they weren’t busy smashing up raves as proto grime godfathers Pay As U Go used to refer to dubstep as "safe grime."
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 6 November 2009 11:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Second half of that Harmonia mix is stunguns.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 6 November 2009 12:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
feeeling that falty dl album.
also, that emelkay track. people seem to be down on it for being another boring identikit wobbler but i think it goes beyond wobbledom just cos of those arching melodic joker like synths and female vocal sample. it feels a bit more sensual. not bludgeoning or itchy synth-riffy.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 9 November 2009 13:58 (1 week ago) Permalink
yo dubsteppers! should i go see
SUKH KNIGHTKARL HAZEKOMODOSHARIVARI
this saturday?
― samosa gibreel, Friday, 13 November 2009 00:27 (1 week ago) Permalink
http://www.sendspace.com/file/551eq6
Damn this is good, Ben UFO back to back with Bok Bok.
Belongs on the Funky thread too really, but I'm trying to not annoy them.
Dub chords over Funky = Future. Scuba + Roska + Cooly G.
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Friday, 13 November 2009 09:12 (1 week ago) Permalink
I don't know the other 3, but I wouldn't bother with Komodo.
― EDB, Friday, 13 November 2009 13:15 (1 week ago) Permalink
Yeah i enjoy those b2b sessions. Bok Bok did a great show with Oneman last year too.
― sam500, Friday, 13 November 2009 15:15 (1 week ago) Permalink
Big big fan of Ramadanman & Appleblim's "Justify". Reminds me of Hidden Agenda. So beautiful yet ominous.
― Tim F, Monday, 16 November 2009 10:23 (5 days ago) Permalink
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 10:25 (5 days ago) Permalink
Lol omg is that real deej.
Shoulda called it "Enter The Bedsit".
― Tim F, Monday, 16 November 2009 10:28 (5 days ago) Permalink
very real -- more reactions on the original wu tang meets indie culture thread
― hoos-kingofthedrugs (deej), Monday, 16 November 2009 10:35 (5 days ago) Permalink
much as i like hatchas shows as of late isnt it a bit sad/depressing that he *Seems* to be playing so much old material? not too into djs mixing it up too much between past and present personally as it confuses my sense of time (and love of new shit) but im guessing he isnt too into the various strands of modern dubstep?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:29 (4 days ago) Permalink
saying that though, just found the tracklisting for the oneman and hatcha set that im listening to and it seems back to back classics.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 17 November 2009 16:30 (4 days ago) Permalink
I still like dubstep but only because I can shut everything out when I listen to it. I am tired of searching for all of this dubstep. It is for listening to in a dark room, and then you go and hunt down some new tracks and they have all this distracting crap on top of them. Like, it shouldn't sound weak and wishy-washy.
― yellow eyes, so help me god, HE HAD YELLOW EYES! (u s steel), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 12:34 (3 days ago) Permalink
Oneman to mix Rinse 11! This can only be a good thing.
― sam500, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:07 (2 days ago) Permalink
I should listen to his Rinse show more but I can't get past the abominable sound quality of their podcasts.
― sam500, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:26 (2 days ago) Permalink
xxxp - I think a DJ like Oneman mixes up the old with the new very effectively. But it's not like he's exclusively playing dubstep. He comes into his own with his epic UK garage / dubstep blends. Haven't heard any Hatcha sets recently.
― sam500, Thursday, 19 November 2009 01:51 (2 days ago) Permalink
onemans amazing. maybe the best dj on the roster, next to brackles. though its arguably easier when you have all diff eras and styles to mix from rather than just new stuff like marcus nasty or youngsta or whoever.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 19 November 2009 09:45 (2 days ago) Permalink
not sure about untold myself, even though i liked anaconda. heard some samples from his new doublepack and when it didnt just sound like older genres (house, eski), it just sounded a bit soft.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:03 (2 days ago) Permalink
I guess I should go and see Brackles play tomorrow then?
― 19349 things paedophiles like to complain about (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:06 (2 days ago) Permalink
YES you should
i like untold but not to the "ong genius" extent that i've seen elsewhere
― lex pretend, Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:13 (2 days ago) Permalink
dont get the hype on these new softie-garage 'future garage' (ugh) guys
who needs to hear guys copy old grime beats, and not even that well?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:17 (2 days ago) Permalink
new dubstep allstars looks good btw, waiting for my copy to arrive, even though i read the effects on the 1st disc are a bit ropey.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 19 November 2009 10:21 (2 days ago) Permalink
Joker KILLED it last night in Athens
― Malcolm Money, Thursday, 19 November 2009 20:22 (2 days ago) Permalink
joker live set or dj set?
― la monte jung (cutty), Thursday, 19 November 2009 20:23 (2 days ago) Permalink
DJ set.....does he do a live set?
― Malcolm Money, Friday, 20 November 2009 00:51 (Yesterday) Permalink
that's what i was wondering
― la monte jung (cutty), Friday, 20 November 2009 03:09 (Yesterday) Permalink
jokers playing in sf next friday night
expecting nothing short of greatness
― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 20 November 2009 03:15 (Yesterday) Permalink
Woah he is? Where? How did I miss this?
― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 November 2009 03:43 (Yesterday) Permalink