The Thread Where We List The People Who Put Kanye As Their Token Rap Album on an indiecentric top 10 2004 list

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yeah annie's relatively huger than girls aloud in the u.s.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Girls Aloud lose a lot in translation. What Annie loses in translation I suppose is part of its charm.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I spent a good five minutes yelling to Swyggart that America doesn't need no goddamn Stereophonics or Robbie Williams or any of that shit when I was in London. We take the one good song and send your merry ass on your way unless you're cute (Hugh Grant, Franz Ferdinand) or write good ballads (Coldplay, Oasis)

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link

big props for annie in local indie schmindie alt-weekly! enough to make me think "this guys has to lurk".

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi, Blur. We'll just be taking that "woo-hoo" ditty and letting indie anglophiles worry about whether your pretensions are worth tolerating.

(x-post, or read Pitchfork)

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"song 2" wasn't blur's biggest hit stateside!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Was it "Coffee and TV"? I'm pretty sure that was a "Weapon of Choice" deal.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Just think, if Annie actually sold records in the UK, then she'd have no indie cred, and she'd thus be unable to sell records in the States.

How queer.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

re: Blur's "Song #2" - uh, it wasn't? I can't think of any other songs of theirs being played during football games, or being in constant radio rotation, or being sold to major US advertisers... (by all means correct me if I'm wrong)

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― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

just checked and well I'll be! "There's No Other Way" and "Girls & Boys" were bonafide modern rock hits! I knew they tried with those two but I didn't know it worked. And I doubt there's any question that "Song 2" is the track that's the most familiar, whether or not other songs made the Modern Rock Top 10 (the chart peaks vary by two digits). You watch ESPN, dude.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

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― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

"there's no other way" was in a car ad also (cf 'the republica rule')(variation of 'the elastica rule')

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"Coffee and TV" was on The Sopranos!

Like Jet!

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link

How did Busted's plan to crack America go then?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

"There's No Other Way" is such a crappy substandard Madchester-bandwagon-jumping shit song, and completely emblematic of why I have always hated Blur (and still do).

but I do remember it being a KROQ/120 Minutes sort of hit (just like as "Girls and Boys"). But "Song #2", that shit was *everywhere* it seemed like. Hell, I STILL hear it.

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― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Jet has more hits in the US than Blur.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

well "Roll Over DJ" didn't totally connect and I'm kind of in disbelief that "Look What You've Done" is actually going up the chart.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"coffee and tv" got mtv play too, "tender" got some rock radio airplay too though thankfully not alot. busted was on mtv2 and mtv hits some but really that market's kinda glutted and exists still as a default option on rock radio pretty much ie. barely exists at all. the better acts are in their 'maturing' phase (which is paying off pretty well).

haha miccio jet might have more modern rock hits (might - have they technically had more than one?) than blur but it's a different era, that pond's ALOT smaller now than in 97 or 94 or 91, ymight as well say wynton marsalis has had more hits than benny goodman.

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"Are You Gonna Be My Girl" and "Cold Hard Bitch" went top 40, dude.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

and they're also mainstream rock hits. "Look What You've Done" appears to be heading up the same trajectory despite being a really lame ballad.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link

haha "top 40": where'd they peak - 32? modern rock is a notch above jazz in terms of it's impact on 'the greater pop culture' right now, ESP in comparison to clinton era or even pre-nevermind era (haha - "the golden years"!) eg. where did 'seven nation army' peak on the pop charts? where did 'groovy train'? and believe me 'groovy train' was not the modern rock juggernaut of it's era (that'd be emf's "unbelievable", an actual number one single, back when modern rock radio hits were actual hits).

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

jesus jones had TWO top five hits, jet's biggest (and believe me, "are you gonna be my girl" is and will remain jet's biggest hit) peaks at 29. with HUGE promotional push behind it (hello ea sports!).

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:00 (nineteen years ago) link

dude I was comparing them to BLUR. I know they aren't as big as Jesus Jones.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

and Jet's definitely having more success off one album then Blur did stateside. Blur gets points for longevity

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

My point remains that Big Brit Acts are stripped for parts in the US unless they're balladeers (Coldplay, Oasis). Franz Ferdinand may beat it by resembling Hugh Grant more than any band previous (no artistic ambition, just wry sex-obsession and dance beats).

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Elwisty: did he see his mention?

I doubt it, he seemed confused by ILM, as in is I don't think he quite understood the layout and had other more important things to do than spend days exploring (and that's what you need to make sense of this place) websites recomended by smart arse students. I don't really want to comment on his list itself 'cos he was nice though it was only an elective and I doubt I will see him again. He told us he used to be The Guardian's Northern music corespondent which seemed very impressive.

― elwisty, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I suddenly got this mental image of the lead singer from Jet becoming embroiled in a huge controversy after claiming that his band is "bigger than Jesus Jones".

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Blount would go all Byron Crawford on his ass.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

haha miccio AMERICAN rock acts are stripped for parts in the us unless they're balladeers, jet might be bigger in comparison to the rest of the modern rock field than blur was in 97 or 94 or 91 (MIGHT) but they're still relatively smaller since the modern rock field's presence on the pop landscape is incredibly smaller than in 97 or 94 or 91. you're effectively arguing that that bright eyes number one selling single is a bigger hit than bruce springsteen ever managed!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

that 'are you gonna be my girl' video is vaguely similar to the 'real, real, real' video

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

you're effectively arguing that that bright eyes number one selling single is a bigger hit than bruce springsteen ever managed!

dude.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

you're like the guy who wants to win the chicken race so bad you fly off the cliff

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

you're like the guy who wants to believe anyone still listens to modern rock radio in 2005!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

10 million Linkin Park fans can't be wrong

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

haha ROCK IS BACK!

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

when modern rock radio can produce a hit as big as clay aiken let me know

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

um. I just mentioned one that's bigger.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Measure Of A Man went double platinum. The new one is platinum. Hybrid Theory did 8. Meteora's done 5.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I admit they're not as big as Shania.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm sorry, what was linkin park's number one hit again?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hybrid Theory was the best selling album of 2002.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link

and what was that linkin park song that you just heard EVERYWHERE, what was the name of that one again?

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"In The End."

I like how you got on this kick just cuz I said Jet had more hits than Blur.

you're like the guy who wants to win the chicken race so bad you fly off the cliff

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

are you gonna ask me when Linkin Park was played at a wedding now?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never argued that modern rock was the most popular genre in the country, but people are clearly still listening to it.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:08 (nineteen years ago) link

De La only token rap alb that matters 2004 holla.

― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:09 (nineteen years ago) link

if ten million bought it, eleven million heard it and dude i'm pretty sure more than eleven million people have heard "song 2" (nevermind "groovy train"). rockophiles a slightly larger cult than anglophiles: big deal. noone else cares. what was the last modern rock radio hit to go top ten without adult contemporary help? (feel free to include british balladeers here too)(though turns out they get more ears than american balladeers)("toppins, toppins").

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

and actually, in the case of Linkin and Jet (the two bands I've mentioned), we're talking about modern/mainstream/crossover

(x-post)

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

and "song 2" wasn't even their biggest hit, right?

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno about latest, but Linkin's "In The End" went to No. 2 on the Top 40 (no. 1 Top 40 mainstream). And adult contemporary is way more friendly to modern rock crossover than rap (I mean they played "Bring Me To Life")

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

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