Aphrodite's Child - 666

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Tell me about this potentially awesome or awful thing, please.

Musical Scientist, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

it's both; I recommend it.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

'the four horsemen' is a total classic.

:| (....), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah that's the 100% successful song. that and the 'infinity' freakout.

it's a pretentious, noodly mess, lots of boring overextension. but so many points just for existing. fun review at HIPPY.COM, I've been meaning to buy the Babylon the Great comp

I think Vangelis' first solo Earth was more successful, transitional where he's still punctuating with vocal pop & rock tunes, but increasingly getting into bliss out rhodes delay, greek string tunings & drum machines...

(Jon L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"Four Horsemen" was my favourite song on that album, too. I haven't heard it in years, but I remember it being quite an eyebrow-raiser of a record; really all over the place.

"Earth" wasn't his first solo record - the first, if I remember, was a soundtrack called "Sex Power" that's impossibly expensive and the second was something in french that was like a dream being longer than the night - I can't remember the title, but I've never seen a copy of that, either. The earliest ones I have (both recorded in '71), "Dragon" and "Hypothesis", are apparently both less than legitimate - I once heard something about a guy excusing himself in a restaurant only to make off with the tapes. The third, or fifth, I guess, is "Apocalypse des Animaux", which might be my favourite after "Beaubourg". "Earth" came after all those. That purple "Demis Roussos Magic" album has a couple of versions of songs that appeared on "Earth", with Vangelis's participation, if you're interested.

Pangolino again, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Babylon" (that dancey aggressively acoustic guitar & bass anthem) has the best fake roaring audience ever...

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The breakbeats on this record are amazing.

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Earth was before Apocalpyse, but you're right, there were two before it. It's his first full on post-Aphrodite's Child record, though. Apocalpyse and Beaubourg are definitely two of my big favorites as well.

I sure would love to hear this:

Fais Que Ton Rêve Soit Plus Long Que La Nuit (1972)

This extraordinary album ("May your dreams last longer than the night") handles the left winged student-riots in Paris, 1968. The music sounds like a collage of newsrecordings, soundrecordings, folk songs, pianothemes, and indeed: a few early synthesizers used in quit a progressive way for the era. Some lyrics were taken from inscriptions on the walls at the riots.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

is that Demis Roussos album good?

(Jon L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's good, though I don't like everything on it. Have you heard "...e Tu" by Claudio Baglioni and / or "Concerto per Margherita" by Riccardo Cocciante? I love both those albums, and Vangelis is all over them. He worked on "Phos" by Socrates and I remember that being great, too, but I don't own it. All of those I would recommend even more than "The Demis Roussos Magic". I'm looking for one called "Tanto" by Patty Pravo that Vangelis produced / arranged; I have a couple of other albums by Ms. Pravo that I really like, and what more could I ask for than Vangelis arrangements?

Pangolino again, Wednesday, 22 December 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Play "All the Seats Were Occupied" off 666 while tripping and understand the immortal power of Vangelis.

I also highly recommend Beaubourg and Hypothesis, the latter with the amazing drummer Tony Oxley.

Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post; didn't know; definitely want to hear.

searching turned up this site, looks nice: http://www.vangelismovements.com/70.htm

(Jon L), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link

so if we add the vangelis album to the bayle piece that directly features recordings of the may 68 riots, what else is there? what is the ideal May 68 playlist? I know there's a Stereolab tune on the Peng! LP whose lyrics are pretty directly about Situationism, but I don't want to go off on a Lipstick Traces tangent (as that book does a fine job by itself)- what other direct may 68 pieces of music could we come up with?

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone know anything about the vangelis/socrates (drank the conium) collaboration?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Vangelis "Let It Happen"= absolute classic.

neil tacus (tacit), Thursday, 23 December 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

listening to 666 last night... it's a fun mess. listening about once every few years probably enough.

then I put on Doctor Faustus and Hathor and made a promise to listen to Wakhevich a lot more often

(Jon L), Thursday, 23 December 2004 21:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I've got my Dad's copy of Vangelis's Albedo 0.39 but have never actually listened to it? I understand it's synthy and cosmic. A bit like Tangerine Dream then?

stew, Friday, 24 December 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

four horseman was also my favourite song, was that demis roussos??

Tim Dixon, Monday, 3 January 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Wow, I'm amazed I never posted to this thread. Bought this cd in about 1995ish after Richard Ashcroft kept going on about it. Love it. My parents had Demi Roussos lps when i was a kid and my dad bought a greatest hits cd this week and I put 666 on his Ipod. I wonder what he will think of it...

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 16 November 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

In case you'll get to know wot he thinks, please do report back. I'm seriously curious.
My dad (who's ipod-less, and in general not that keen on pop music per se) is a bit of a Roussos fan also, inna mild sorta way, but he's never suspected there's ever existed anything like Aphrodite's Child.

t**t, Sunday, 18 November 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think mine does either. My dad is total middle of the road or 60s chart pop etc. At the same time he ordered the demis, he got nana mouskouri cds, Foreigner(he likes one of their songs I bet you can guess which), he also ordered a couple of dire straits cds and the Boston greatest hits(guess who recommended that one to him).
At least it makes a change from him listening to Celine Dion,Katie Melua, Norah Jones or Robbie Williams.
He does like some Dylan though and he did once buy Donovan and Woody Guthrie cds, he also used to go to edinburgh folk clubs with his mates in the early 60s and saw the likes of The Corries, Hamish Imlach, Humblebums etc.

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 18 November 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

i was just listening to 666 last night. weird. i think it's "aegeian sea" that sounds like labradford twenty+ years before they existed. wait, that is the "they'll no longer suffer from hunger, they'll no longer suffer from thirst" song, right?

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 19 November 2007 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

(not good with song titles.)

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Monday, 19 November 2007 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Play "All the Seats Were Occupied" off 666 while tripping and understand the immortal power of Vangelis.
no shit. one of the best 20 or so minute epics there is. the neglect by people ever to mention them is almost racist against greek people

kamerad, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

great revive, long road trip to play a show in LA on sunday and needed at least one epic 2 CD set to bring and it's obviously got to be this

Milton Parker, Saturday, 23 January 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

this album is a lot easier to listen to than a lot of people are making it sound. i've heard all three AC albums and they're all worth getting though this is the best. Vangelis solo I don't really know about

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

Vangelis' first album Earth is still very much in AC mode. And See You Later is a late 70's return to vague AC-esque concept-album form with lyrics, only more influenced by Sparks & Moroder, and it is just bizarre. Of the other ones, the ones I truly love are Heaven and Hell, side 2 of L'Apocalypse Des Animaux, Beauborg, Blade Runner (Espers Edition). Other albums also have beautiful moments placed right next to some truly silly ones and if you're not careful you can get them mixed up.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

shhh

Milton Parker, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

no, really

Milton Parker, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I couldn't disagree more with what some of the people were saying 6 years ago. This album is a total classic, and while the 4 Horsemen is nice, it's one of the less interesting tracks to me. I don't get how you could consider it a "mess". My favorites are The Lamb, The Battle of the Locusts/Do It, The Wedding of the Lamb, and Hic and Nunc.

Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

i love the album but it is a "mess". a good mess though

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

what's messy about it?

Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

i just feel that way because it's really all over the place as an album and ends rather strangely with a collage piece. it reminds me a lot of some of Zappa's albums

frogbs, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

hmm, it sounds very cohesive to me. for a progressive rock two-disc concept album, it's pretty damn tight. I like basically every track, can listen to it all the way through, and everything flows together well. The concept is pretty well exploited and even if it's a bit silly, it's not nearly as off-putting as when English bands got silly and pretentious. It gives the album a nice weirdo mysterious greek vibe. The writing, production, playing, and arrangements, are all top notch. Overall, I think they managed to keep the perfect balance between experimentation and a strong pop sensibility. You never get the impression that they're going off into weird time signatures or doing 20 minute drum solos just for the sake of it. I don't feel like there any freakout parts just inserted to fill out a side of the record. The stuff that might come across as filler on another album is used well here to add to the overall flow and atmosphere.

Maybe something is wrong with your version, because mine ends with the song "Break".

But then I don't really find Zappa's albums to be messes either. Or rather the ones that other people might consider messes are his best albums IMO.

Ktulu says, I've come to hate my body (wk), Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

"BREAK!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WTNFuF6qiA

Funny:
1) Song is by the drummer
2) there are no drums on it.

Mark G, Monday, 20 February 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

What are the solo Demis Roussos lps like. Trying to find reviews but having no luck. Looks like at least the first one and Forever and Ever retain some prog/psych influence from the couple of reviews I've seen.

The scene in Abigail's party always had me thinking they must be far straighter MOR stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hXUehyRlE

and iirc he was thought of as a grannie's favourite on mainstream tv in the late 70s/early 80s. But received wisdom can be pretty distorted.

Stevolende, Monday, 20 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

The "Roussos Phenom" documentary had a fair bit of "Rock" on tracks like "I dig you" which was an oldie by "Odyssey" (not the Native NY lot) previously called "Who"..

Mark G, Monday, 20 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like at least the first one and Forever and Ever retain some prog/psych influence from the couple of reviews I've seen.

I've got the first one, have been too scared to venture further than that, and it's pretty good! Not sure about the track where he's going on about the Greek side of his mind, it must be said.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

But, yes, it's quite close to Aphrodite's Child - first 2 albums, not 666 - the schmaltz is encroaching however

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

here's a piece i wrote for FT last year that encompasses aphrodite's child

mark s, Monday, 20 February 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've always loved Vangelis's synth albums, but I don't really care about prog rock. Is any of the AC stuff worth checking out for a Vangelis fan, or is it all prog?

Tuomas, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

It's all prog/psychedelia/pop

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

prog/psychedelia/pop/fusion/classical/folk/reggae/techno/punk/swing/juju

mark s, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

i.e. Tuomas won't like it

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

he will if he approaches it on a swingin eurotica tip

(ok no he probably won't)

mark s, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

I picked up the 'Break' single recently, it's the happiest 'sad' song ever.

Mark G, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Altamont is such a jam

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 16 August 2014 11:37 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

that pale horse sure has a sense of timing

ear sirrom (imago), Monday, 26 January 2015 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, shame, 68 is too young. RIP Demis.

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link

RIP Demis - Four Horsemen is my second favourite rock song of all time and a solid lock for a desert island disc.

I was DJing on Saturday night and played I Dig You and that was the moment the entire night kicked off. It still sounds like magic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Q1HsPE5cQ

Doran, Monday, 26 January 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link

'The Four Horsemen' is a work of genius. RIP.

emil.y, Monday, 26 January 2015 13:37 (nine years ago) link

I've said here it till I'm blue in the face but I like his first solo album ... the later one with Vangelis is good too.

A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:38 (nine years ago) link

:(

Get Ducked (Cosmic Slop), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link

Love his performance on this one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwbr9EL0UJM

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link

showing lewis baloue how to do it properly:

http://eil.com/images/main/Demis-Roussos-Man-Of-The-World-425651.jpg

why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:48 (nine years ago) link

I always considered "My Face in the Rain" to be one of the most beautiful vocal performances ever, rest in peace man :(

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 26 January 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, this is a huge bummer. He basically had the voice of God.

And Forever and Ever is one of the most glorious, sun-soaked, harpsichorded, balilaka'd-out pop albums ever.

SUCH A BANGER:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a0XolnWKf4

J. Sam, Monday, 26 January 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link

Also, this gloriously schmaltzy Morricone collab:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnEH5gT0Mbc

J. Sam, Monday, 26 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link

From Andrew Male of Mojo on Twitter:

Yer @signifyingwolf points out that, in 2009, the late, great Demis Roussos recorded a song called Who Give A Fuck...Sorry, that should have read A NINE-MINUTE DEMIS ROUSSOS SONG called WHO GIVES A FUCK?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDJQy4vIwbY

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 January 2015 18:06 (nine years ago) link

RIP, what a legacy.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 26 January 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

so if we add the vangelis album to the bayle piece that directly features recordings of the may 68 riots, what else is there? what is the ideal May 68 playlist?

Daevid Allen, "And His Adventures In the Land of Flip" (from the "Banana Moon" album (he plays guitar on the Francois Bayle piece mentioned in the original post too))

Also this...

https://continuo.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nono-lp-front.jpg

This Year's Model Victim (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 July 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BUDrKiR49o

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link


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