Martha & the Muffins - C/D?

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I listened to "This is the Ice Age" last night for the first time in about 10 years. I love Mark Gane's deadpan singing. I was never into their other albums as much as (that one I just mentioned. - TitIA, for short - hA!) A little too "dancy" for my taste. So my question, apart from classic or dud, includes putting your response in context of what else you like. Because if you're a 80's Madonna fan, maybe you like M+M for crap like "Black Stations, White Stations" - and if you're a King Crimson fan, maybe you like M+M for "Boy Without Filters."

Discuss.

Dave225, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

... And Robert Forster does a great cover of "Echo Beach."

Dave225, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The attempt at making a them sex symbols in the "Black Stations" video was funnier than shit. "Oh stop it Mom!" indeed.

dave q, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I remember liking the Dancepark (I think that's the name) album when I bought it, enough to buy one or two others (used), but I haven't listened to it in many years, I'm sure it must sound pretty dated.

nickn, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Andy Haas, the saxophone player from Martha and the Muffins, now mostly plays didjeridu--he made a kind of fantastic album, _Arnhem Land_, of didj-and-whatever duets on Avant a few years ago (highlight: "Green Ant Song," a duet with Makigami Koichi), and used to sit in on didj with God Is My Co-Pilot.

Douglas, Saturday, 22 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I had a couple things by them back in the day... still the only thing that stands out is "Echo Beach".

Sean, Sunday, 23 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
Listen to or get hold of a copy of Modern Lullabye (obtain via http://www.thecia.net/users/hamilton/muffins/merchandise.html) it's the best thing they've done since This is the ice age and nothing like 'The World Is a Ball' or 'Danseparc'.

Graeme Pilkington, Saturday, 9 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Metro Music is fun to take out and look at due to a map of Toronto on the cover. I guess 10 years down to the road or so Hayden came from the same neighbour hood north of the city.

Mr Noodles, Saturday, 9 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The thing that always gets me is the Gane connection: from all indications, Tim Gane went on to become one of the founders of Stereolab, but you never hear much about that connection. This is, of course, unless it's a different Tim Gane.

By the way, the cover of This is the Ice Age is also interesting to Torontonians, because you can see the top of the Bank of Montreal building back when there wasn't a Scotiabank building nestled right up beside it. Anyone with the album know where the building in the foreground is located?

Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
BLACK STATIONS WHITE STATIONS IS NOT CRAP

It's great, that bassline, the Flippery/James White (but less screechy) sax, "This is 1984!"

Hate their bandname and Echo Beach sets my teeth on edge but *this* song needs to be loved and put in the long-forgotten-classics-that-need-rehearing part of your brain.

And here's a YSI of it: http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2TUY9ZTY6O2S72SEIW9UXHD8CK

Affectian (Affectian), Friday, 13 May 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"Song In My Head" owns.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 13 May 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

They must've been good at choosing sax players based on what Douglas said; John Oswald played sax on Danseparc.

Vic Funk, Friday, 13 May 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
So no love for the fine reissue of This Is The Ice Age? I picked up their first album, Metro Area in the spring, and it's fun but somewhat dated. However, I just got Ice Age, and I'm blown away by how great it is. Talk about a lost classic. It's one of Daniel
Lanois' first productions, and he shows a strong Eno influence, with
lots of interesting incidental sounds and keyboard effects. The drum
sounds are amazing -- like they used giant rubber mallets -- I'm
wondering if perhaps Tricky sampled them on Maxinquaye. This band
should have been recognized as Talking Heads' Canadian brethren.
Don't know why they weren't more popular.

I downloaded Trance and Dance (second album from 1980, weakest
effort), and Danseparc (1982), which is nearly as great as This Is
The Ice Age. Both remain out of print, as is Mystery Walk,
which features players from the NYC funk scene, and completes
Lanois' trilogy. I haven't found even a dl of this yet, but I'm hoping more reissues will follow.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Damnit I always wanted to like Martha & The Muffins a little more than I ever did. "Black Stations White Stations" was a fascinating song/video at the time. A friend of mine named his radio show after one of their records way back when. Maybe I should try them one more time.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"Swimming" has made it on many a compliation tape/CD over the years. Always loved introducing people to that. "Boy w/o Filters" holds up really well too, I think.

The thing that always gets me is the Gane connection: from all indications, Tim Gane went on to become one of the founders of Stereolab, but you never hear much about that connection. This is, of course, unless it's a different Tim Gane.

Someone here must know. I've always wondered...

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Mm. Seems a bit far fetched that it would be the same Tim Gane. Tim Gane from Stereolab was previously guitarist in McCarthy. Whereas Martha & The Muffins came from Canada, if I recall correctly. Not impossible, but not quite probable either.

Bimble The Nimble, Jumped Over A Thimble! (Bimble...), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

sure wish I hadn't missed that YSI last May.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Wishes do come true :-)

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0OZF6UX7Z05L42XF1EA3OVECYM

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

yar!

This Is The Ice Age is now on my shopping list.

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

>John Oswald played sax on Danseparc.

!!

I like his sax playing, he's spent years making sure he'll never play anything resembling a melody, even by accident

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 30 September 2005 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding my inquiry about the remaining unissued albums, Mark Gane wrote:

"Our biggest obstacle to getting the back catalogue out is the almost total disinterest of our two former labels, Virgin UK and BMG Canada. If it weren't for EMI Canada, most of the above reissues would be still gathering dust in the vaults. There is still the second Dindisc/Virgin album, "Trance and Dance" to be reissued, hopefully again by EMI Canada, and the three albums originally released by BMG Canada. If we had the money, we'd do it ourselves!

We're currently exploring potential reissue labels to get the remaining catalogue out - we get requests weekly from fans around the world who want reissues and new material as well so it's in our interest to keep hammering away.

We'll let you know when there's any news."

I wrote a review of This Is The Ice Age.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 2 October 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey cool, PFS is back, and they interviewed Martha & The Muffins. Interviewer Tony Sclafani is a bit obsessed with their themes of alienation and displacement, but he has a point. Another good point is that M+M had too many weird sounds to appeal to mainstream pop audience, and were too pop for the avant-garde scene, and the albums would have fared better 25 years later.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

August 4th sees the release of the remastered Danceparc (1982), yay!

There is no relation between Mark Gane and Stereolab's Tim Gane.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 21 June 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Just to double clarify, there was also a Tim Gane in M&TM, and it's not the Stereolab one.

One interesting thing: they have a great song called Was Ezo (the single version is better than the album version) and parts of it actually do sound an awful lot like Stereolab.

dlp9001, Sunday, 22 June 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

The title of this band is actually my nickname.

VeronaInTheClub, Sunday, 22 June 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

My friend and I were thinking of videos to play each other on You Tube and somehow "Black Stations White Stations" fell out of my brain to play him. I wondered why I had sortof forgotten about that song and it occured to me that most folks who mention this band are usually fans of their earlier stuff and don't mention that one. So anyway, we played the video, he thought it was great, and it still sounded great to me too. Kinda wish I had a 12" mix right now...

Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 27 December 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

A voice inside my car drove me today

Don't Hurt My Pain (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 27 December 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Okay WOW WOW WOW I am having a FREAKOUT over these folks. Mystery Walk album! Woah ho ho!
I haven't heard the likes of "Cooling The Medium" or "Come Out & Dance" in so many years and they are damn fantastic. I used to have this album a long time ago but don't remember it very well.

I am also trying Dansparc. I didn't like much Martha & Muffins I heard before, that LP with the map on it...

Sacriligiously Dead (Bimble), Saturday, 23 May 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

velko, Saturday, 23 May 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to have all their singles at one time. "Was Ezo", referred to upthread, I liked a lot at the time. I don't think I've listened to this band in more than 15 years.

kr0p3r0m:a9ff (Pashmina), Saturday, 23 May 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDfLBY6PJrQ

its ok.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes! "Echo Beach!" I've been trying to figure why that song is so familiar and now I know.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 July 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Maybe should have posted these notes here instead, come to think of it:

Daniel Lanois solo work

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Mystery Walk, which features players from the NYC funk scene

Wasn't aware of this til now, but yeah, looks like there are a lot of studio guys listed in the credits -- for instance, Fred Maher from Material and Massacre drumming on one track, and Yogi Horton, the r&b guy who'd also done work with David Byrne and the B-52s etc, on most of the rest. Doesn't manage to flesh out the sound or make it any less bleh, though. And Lanois seems like a good person to blame for that.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I've just ordered a compilation of Echo Beach remixes. Looking forward to it arriving!

mmmm, Monday, 7 March 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

still undecided on this group; they seem like the dull, productive, literary type, which is respectible but not really prone to making great music...that said tunes like "Waz Eso" and "Indecision" that amp up the catchiness factor really do work well

frogbs, Monday, 7 March 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

I only just started listening to them properly after years of only knowing Echo Beach. The first album is really boring and it was quite a struggle to make it through to the end. This Is The Ice Age is really good though, like a different band. The fourth album Danseparc is even better, really funky and the production sounds pretty amazing.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 7 March 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

xp from reissue thread. Considering Trance and Dance was considered a disappointment after their debut Metro Music, probably for fans only. I think they should have done Mystery Walk (1984) first, as it seems more relevant to a lot of current bands, along with Danseparc (1982).

Martha and the Muffins - Trance And Dance (Dindisc/Cherry Red, 1980)
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/images/MARTHA%20AND%20THE%20MUFFINS.jpg
The long overdue reissue of Martha And The Muffin's 2nd album - originally released in 1980. From their New Wave roots the band became one of Canada's most acclaimed and respected bands. This 18 track CD features the 12 tracks of the original album plus six related bonus tracks. Upon its original release a limited edition bonus 4 track EP of live recordings accompanied the album. Those four tracks; ‘Indecision’, ‘Cheesies and Gum’, ‘Primal Weekend’ and ‘Paint By Number Heart’ appear on this compilation. Other bonus material features the b/sides: ‘1 4 6’ (from "About Insomnia") and ‘Girl Fat’ (from Suburban Dream). The original album featured three singles ‘About Insomnia’, ‘Suburban Dream’ and ‘Was Ezo’. The album has been remastered by Peter J. Moore - a leading mastering specialist in Canada. The CD booklet will feature many of the original sleeves, a full UK discography and sleeve notes. The album was produced by the respected producer Mike Howlett whose credits include A Flock Of Seagulls, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Comsat Angels, Blancmange and Joan Armatrading amongst others. The band were formed during 1977 in Toronto, Canada. The band released an indie single ‘Insect Love’ that helped the band secure a deal with Dindisc (a Virgin subsidiary). The band's first single on the label was their biggest hit ‘Echo Beach’ that hit the Top 10 both sides of the Atlantic. The band have released eight studio albums and two compilations in the last 30 years.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

oh wow

katherine, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link

I can't tell if this reissue includes the single version of "Was Ezo" which is different from (and better than) the album version. Hmmmm.

dlp9001, Monday, 4 November 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Cover of Echo Beach by Aussie postpunkers took me by surprise, and is really great.

http://listen.tidal.com/album/48880195

dlp9001, Thursday, 5 May 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link


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