90's Acid Jazz: Classic or Deathly Dud!

Most other AJ I find pleasant enough, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to it. I don't know about the States, but in the UK a lot of the people that championed this stuff were the sort of soulless lifestyle-magazine-reading chumps that make me avoid expensive bars.

Actually, Acid Jazz predates Jungle to my mind.

yes i think so too. but there was a move in drum'n'bass toward the "real" instrumentation of acid jazz (rhodes in particular) - and a shying away from crazy jump cuts and unheard of juxtaposition - that signalled a move away from the hyper-real or surreal that was what a lot of people loved about jungle.

Oh, it does, I meant the change in more of a 'ah, let's get QUALITY now' sense. Which, as bulbs noted, meant a terrible dulling down of the original skew-whiff WTFness of early jungle.

didn't take wine-and-cheese party DJ Jason Bentley long to jump on it...

This is a perfect description.

Spot on, sir.

Matos is probably right as well, though I don't recall ever hearing anything consciously describing like that to me.

The difference here can be summed up in a key word you've left out -- 'boring.' You might feel PSB/Pulp are boring as hell with their polite turns, etc., I often feel LTJ is with his, etc.

Maybe, never heard it, but 'apparently nothing' not getting nommed for the best 100 singles of the 90's is a heinous oversight.

Got a 2 disc compilation of this today, mainly out of curiousity.

Sounds like House with late 80s session musicians?

Don't mind it, though.

Medeski Martin & Wood released some good records in the 90s....all three can actually play beyond stale jazz-funk riffing (their freer material is surprisingly good too), which kept their 90s releases from getting too bogged-down in coffee shop/lounge cheese. The two collab records w/John Scoffield are shit though, as are the last few funky-enough-for-the-jamband-community records (starting with 2000's The Dropper, go figure)

Please tell me there's no Aughties acid jazz...please...

The thing in a nutshell:

This genre basically got half of its credibility from its (wrong) use of the word "acid", and the other half of its credibility from its (wrong) use of the word "jazz".

This seems too polite and inoffensive to inspire any heated feelings at all, really.

Given the rigid border patrolling in dance music and the institutionalization of jazz as America's classical music, it's very easy to see why this genre inspires heated feelings.

Plus, "polite" and "inoffensive" have been the bane of rock-n-roll since Chuck Berry (at least). Come think of it, dance music and jazz don't have all that much use for them either.

THIS GENTILITY HAS NO PLACE HERE

There's nothing I'd rather hear less than Us3, which epitomizes the genre to me. I was into the Jazzmatazz albums and Brand New Heavies, and uh... some Ubiquity and Acid Jazz comps. The break beats aren't so progressive, and the Jazz aspect doesn't sound as nice as the original songs sampled.

bloody hell, sandals actually recorded a second album ..

http://www.discogs.com/Sandals-Yesterdays-Tomorrow/release/2049137

really love their debut album and ep ..

seriously fugged up and not really part of the whole acid jazz scene (more skunk funk before such a genre existed)

Ian Simmonds has made some great albums. Interesting guy.

tell me more.

Good albums under his own name and as Juryman. His Burgenland Dubs was recorded in relative isolation.

There's a interview here - http://www.freude-am-tanzen.com/podcasts/fatpod03/

thank you.

i have a spacer album hidden deep that i dont think i have ever listened to ..

going to dig it out.

sandals hit so many of my sweet spots before the whole mo'wax trip hop thing saturated the scene.

juryman .. ordered.

had no idea re this life after sandals.

ta for tip off.

I have a Spacer album that's hella boring but not acid jazz afair

just googled him and turns out he now teaches composition at the State Conservat0rium Of Music here in Sydney