What do you reckon of SCOTW, aka Foetus, aka Jim Foetus, aka Jim Thirwell?
I've only get the Hole and Nail albums, and a remix of Andre Williams/JSBX's 'Lapdance, all of which I reckon is great.
Any further recommendations?
Anyone know what he's up to now?
― Sasha on a different PC, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:29 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:01 (8 years ago) Permalink
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
― bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:28 (8 years ago) Permalink
― anode (anode), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:32 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
Anyone heard that Baby Zizane album that came out last year?
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:46 (8 years ago) Permalink
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:49 (8 years ago) Permalink
Favorite Foetus tune: "Bedrock"Runner-up: "Free James (so he can run me down)"
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:01 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:02 (8 years ago) Permalink
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:04 (8 years ago) Permalink
― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:04 (8 years ago) Permalink
Wash It All Off
I'll Meet You in Poland, Baby
Wiseblood LP
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:08 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Sami Jheryllkanyga, Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:40 (8 years ago) Permalink
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:42 (8 years ago) Permalink
I didn't much like Deaf or Ache and never really went much further..
― Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 4 November 2004 08:27 (8 years ago) Permalink
― bulbs (bulbs), Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:17 (8 years ago) Permalink
Nail is the classic, though Thaw is particularly gruesome and makes a lot of appearances even now
yes Gash was ace (the mad jazz of Slung is a highlight), despite it getting a little to close to industrial stereotyping for much of the 60 mins, though the spinoff Null ep with remixes was far more concise and enjoyable, but the latest album Flow was seriously back on form with his mutant horns and dark fun. which was remixed to death by various electronica folks for Blow (Young Gods, DJ Food, Amon Tombin being my faves of this set)
recently though he has been discovering the inner workings of his laptop with Manorexia (??) and i have to admit i aint heard that yet.
new Foetus stuff on its way i hear 'Love'
Story : London T&C (1986) - Thaw release - backing band The Swans.
Jim was getting seriously wound up by some kid in the full on mosh pit, the bass monster from the Swans (??) - A LARGE man - also giving ugly gesticulations to said people in the mosh was slapping the bass sooo hard that a string snapped and recoiled around his finger, he than pulled his finger out of the coil string only to create a spray of blood. naturally he continued pounding the instrumnent to the gorebeat.
within a few minutes Jim jumped into the moshpit and started beating the shit out of somebody before climbing back on stage.
not a note was missed.
it was the most intense gig of my life. whether it was staged or not.i suspect not.
avoid Boil, not a good live album, especially up against the excellent Male live cd.
enjoy.
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:13 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Braces Tower, Thursday, 4 November 2004 10:19 (8 years ago) Permalink
As an introduction, the Foetus live album 'Male' is pretty much untouchable for beginners. It has pretty damn great versions of my favourite Foetus songs ("I'll Meet You In Poland, Baby", "Butterfly Potion", "English Faggot", "Someone Drowned In My Pool", "Free James Brown") and two astonishing covers ("Faith Healer" and "Behemoth"), aligned with probably the best backing band Thirlwell ever had (Kizys, David Ouimet, Norman Westerberg).
Studio albums: 'Nail' and 'Hole' are the two real essentials, and the Wiseblood album.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 4 November 2004 11:22 (8 years ago) Permalink
'hole' is a total masterpiece. totally changed my life. 'ache' has actually aged really well, much better than i'd have thought it would.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:02 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
a perfect evenings entertainment.
bloke next to me was On something .. naked from waste up .. girating constantly .. as if at a Rave .. weird as fuck considering the noise being made by the band.
one freaky time.
only to be followed up by wearing the Foetus Interruptus T-shirt in Leeds a few days later - and being accosted by some girl that it was appalling ..
― mark e (mark e), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:15 (8 years ago) Permalink
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:19 (8 years ago) Permalink
― everything, Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:26 (8 years ago) Permalink
How the hell did I remember all those lyrics?
HEEEEEEELLLLLLLO operator give me no-man's landCollect call to no one at allBeen yellin' into an empty closetTo the point of no return and no deposit
killer stuff.
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:12 (6 years ago) Permalink
― John Cougar Mellencamp sucks and you know it (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:15 (6 years ago) Permalink
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:28 (6 years ago) Permalink
(xpost)
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:43 (6 years ago) Permalink
― third uncle (davemotion), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:13 (6 years ago) Permalink
Where next? Gash, Flow or Nail?
― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink
WHEN YOU'RE DESTINED TO LIVE IN A STREET OF SHAME!
oOOH ah, DESTINED, destined to live in a street of shame,
STREET OF SHAME
― John Cougar Mellencamp sucks and you know it (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:22 (6 years ago) Permalink
Sounds like a good idea, following the discography back in time like that. LOVE is very different from the older albums, and if you follow that order the trip back could be (slightly) easier, I think.
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:30 (6 years ago) Permalink
― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 7 October 2006 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink
― everything (everything), Sunday, 8 October 2006 05:17 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Edward III (edward iii), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:00 (6 years ago) Permalink
I've probably listened to my 12" of "Wash It All Off" about 3000 times over the years, but today is a great day because I finally heard the original 7" version from 1982. Ha-ha. That is totally off the hook. What a treat. I love him all over again now.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
Seriously, the period from 84 - 87 when he released not only "Hole" and "Nail" but also "Calamity Crush", "Wash It All Off", "Finely Honed Machine", "Bedrock" and "Ramrod". Just.....whew! Fucking amazing. Absolutely fucking amazing.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 00:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
yup, that was an amazing period. got to add 'motorslug' and 'dirtdish' too.
i couldn't find them at the time but have subsequently and also really love the early records- 'spite your face', 'custom built for capitalism', 'wash it all off' (7"), 'tell me what is the bane of your life', 'deaf' and 'ache'.
i wonder whatever happened to the proposed foetus on the beach triple lp and 2nd f.a.t. 12"?
FORTHCOMING RELEASES ON SELF IMMOLATION/SOME BIZZARE & ASSOCIATED PRODUCT
WOMB FGH 12.8: YOU'VE GOT FOETUS ON YOUR BREATH "Wash It All Off"/"Today I Started Slogging Again" - 12 45rpm ( Jan '85 )
WOMB UNC12.7 FOETUS UBER FRISCO "Finely Honed Machine"/"Sick Minutes" - 12" 45rpm ( Jan '85 )
WISEBLOOD ( featuring CLINT RUIN of SFOTW & ROLI MOSIMANN of SWANS ) "Motor-slug"/"Death Rape 2000" ( on K422 ) - 12" 45rpm ( Feb '85 )
"THE FOETUS OF EXCELLENCE" - EMPTY BOX/ T SHIRT ( Feb '85 )
FOETUS ART TERRORISM: 2nd twelve inch - ( Mid '85 )
SCRAPING FOETUS OFF THE WHEEL: 2nd L.P. - ( Mid '85 )
WOMB 6T33: "FOETUS ON THE BEACH" - triple L.P. ( Late '89‡ )
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 01:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
all early Foetus rules, yes. the singles are great, both early albums also excellent. Thirsty Ear reissued them on CD some years back.
don't forget the Foetus Of Excellence T-shirt!
― sleeve, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 04:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I forgot about the Motorslug 12" - a work of genius, obviously. What a guy!
I have to get those first two albums sometime. I wanted them for years but when they were reissued I'd kind of moved on and it wasn't so urgent anymore. But I'll pick them up someday.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 06:07 (5 years ago) Permalink
ahh motorslug. but seriously - who can listen to Death Rape 2000 all the way through ? the lead track is just sheer class, but i never manage to make it all the way through the flip. 12" came with a great comic as well .. agree - this really was an amazing period in Jims career. the Dirtdish cd version is totally worth tracking down, just for the different versions of Someone drowned in my pool (surely one of the funniest/darkest tracks ever ?), and the genius that was Stumbo. Ahh the days I used to wear my dayglo orange/pink Savage Pencil Stumbo T-shirt and revel in the disbelieving stares, whereas now its banned to the archive as my wife refuses to be seen out in public with me wearing it. Naturally, he fell in for the Sony dollar, and things were never quite the same again, though the internet only album Damp seems to have some cracking stuff on it, once i get back into the Foetus mood.
― mark e, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 07:29 (5 years ago) Permalink
who can listen to Death Rape 2000 all the way through ?
Weah, what a headache. David Gedge once chose it in a list of his favourite records along with Spike Milligan's Tape Recorder by the Membranes so he must have an ear for such things. They even played a little bit of it on the radio.
― everything, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 14:19 (5 years ago) Permalink
Who knew Dave Gedge liked Foetus!
― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
have to admit my head was spun a little by that fact.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 August 2007 13:19 (5 years ago) Permalink
I've been on a Foetus kick for the last few days. The timelessness of these recordings is astounding. The absence of band photos or videos, combined with the facts that he's always been difficult to pigeonhole AND the superb quality of the recordings means they could have been released anytime in the last 30 years. Things like "Diabolus in Musica" or "Sick Minutes" sound so contemporary alonside groups like Battles, for instance.
― everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
I'm not surprised David Gedge likes Foetus & the Membranes - apparently the name The Wedding Present was inspired by his being a fan of the Birthday Party.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:40 (5 years ago) Permalink
And the early Weddoes stuff was super-intense too.
Currently listening to Stereoid Maximus's "Gondwanaland". Wild. And GROOVY!
― everything, Thursday, 23 August 2007 18:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
Along with everybody else, I just fucking LOVE the mid-to-late-80s Foetus stuff. Esp Nail, but the singles and side projex too. Fucking Wiseblood! Amazing music and the lyrics are even better. Stuck in that "confrontational" 80s fake tough guy mode, but still so smart, funny, self-lacerating and perversely joyful. I like how he frames the stereotypical pigfuck tropes as 40s hard-boiled noir. Gives it a big wink and makes the nihilist mutilation angle seem a lot less pretentious. Damn fine producer of other folks' music, too (Boss Hog, etc.).
― Bob Standard, Thursday, 23 August 2007 19:09 (5 years ago) Permalink
thanks dan. "hole" was my foetus entry point and for years i thought it was the greatest album of all time, but now it's "deaf", "ache" and the early singles i listen to the most, so i really need to get this.
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
ordered.
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
ok. i know ysi is a no no but this is long out of print and it's a lo fi mp3, so.....
"kid hate kid"
genius.
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/712507604/587e3a44d33854437d81538080e67fb6
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
you know he played synth on the pragVEC! Lp before leaving London for NY? Their drummer Nick Cash was also in The Lines but Thirwell didn't seem to remember them when I asked.
― dan selzer, Monday, 13 July 2009 04:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh btw rife is available on emusic. Trying to resist the urge to burn all my foetus stuff and make a mint on amazon. One of the Marc almond singles is starting at $40!
― It's got a whole identity in the dick (jjjusten), Monday, 13 July 2009 05:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
Today is the first of september......
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
nice. there was a cringe worthy interview on resonance fm this evening with jg thirwell. he seems like a cool a guy who's heavily into music but the interviewer was a complete dick. he even mispronounced einsturzende neubauten
― damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Tuesday, 1 September 2009 02:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
I've been trying to find a podcast of this but cannot. Can you explain further?
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
(I mean, it just aired today and it's expecting to much that the host has uploaded a podcast and some website maintainer has put it up.)
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
too much
Feet are smellin' (Foetus Melon)
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 1 September 2009 03:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
Today is the first of september......― stirmonster
Meant to revive this yesterday then forgot all about it. Giving it a wee listen now.
― mccannesque outrage (onimo), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 17:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.last.fm/music/Foetus/_/I%27ll+Meet+You+in+Poland+Baby
Three years running this has had a "TODAY IS THE FIRST OF SEPTEMBER!" shout.
― mccannesque outrage (onimo), Wednesday, 2 September 2009 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
has Sink ever been remastered? I have an early Wax Trax and a later Thirsty Ear and now I see there is a 2007 Some Bizarre reissue, but no notes about remastering from the original 1989 version.
― sleeve, Monday, 5 October 2009 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't think it has ever been remastered. The 2007 version in the digipack is not a remaster although it has been described that way when mentioned collectively with the remastered versions of Hole and Nail.
― everything, Monday, 5 October 2009 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
thanks!
― sleeve, Monday, 5 October 2009 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
JOHN JUSTEN if you are reading, I have now heard the cover of Shrunken Man and I am obsessed with it as it is *PHENOMENAL*
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
altogether now ..
"Today is the first of SEPTEMBER !!!!"
[anyone heard anything from the new album thats in pipeline .. ]
― mark e, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 07:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
you beat me to the punch! :)
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 09:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
after my youngest woke me up with 'pinch punch 1st of the month' this morning, i was determined to hit this thread.
of course, reading the news yesterday that jim is to release a new album, hide, kind of got me in gear
― mark e, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 09:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
Am watching a LOT of awesome Foetus videos tonight
― acoleuthic, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 23:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
Like, tell me big-band jazz has been done better than this:
slung is the best thing on gash by far.
― mark e, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 09:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
big-bnad jazz has been done better than that
― Baron Strange of Knockin (DJP), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
big-nad jazz has been done better than that
― snehpetS s1truC (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Today is the first of Septembah!
― everything, Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
LIVE
― Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
i love this annual kick in the nuts to help remind us of jims excellence.
― mark e, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
there aren't many records that mean as much to me as hole and nail do. there's an element of intense personal expression that i don't really get from his subsequent work. in an interview years ago he said something along the lines of feeling like he was going to die in the course of making each of these albums, such was the effort he was putting in to them.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
so great
I listened to "Hot Horse" this morning in honor of the day.
― sleeve, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
― stirmonster, Saturday, 1 September 2012 03:18 (8 months ago) Permalink
so it is ....
― mark e, Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:34 (8 months ago) Permalink
Ach, missed it!
― everything, Sunday, 2 September 2012 02:49 (8 months ago) Permalink
jim actually did the same thing on his official facebook page yesterday ..
made me laugh.
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 09:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
I was wondering about remasters and sound and stuff. Have wanted to get OKFM in decent sound for a while, I love the 3D intro section on that particular track. Subsequently wanted it in best possible sound.
Also would love a copy of Mother I Killed THe Cat. I had the single but every time I put it on tape the tape broke and I wondered if that was just coincidence.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 2 September 2012 11:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
Has anyone else noticed what feels like an unnaturally enormous number of used Foetus LPs out there in the world? I feel like I encounter Foetus as much as Carole King, or at least Poco.
― Clarke B., Sunday, 2 September 2012 16:50 (8 months ago) Permalink
you clearly have some interesting charity/used record shops as i have never ever come across any used foetus albums !
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
I have two Foetus related trivia questions of my own devising:
1. Which song by the Dickies is apparently sampled on which Foetus song? 2. What's the connections between Foetus and Phyllis Diller?
― everything, Sunday, 2 September 2012 19:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
1. no idea2. no idea
and i thought i was a fan !
more fool me.
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 19:32 (8 months ago) Permalink
i mean i could ask him, but he does not suffer fools gladly, and i am fearful that this would put me on the 'this f*cker needs to burn in hell pile !"
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 19:34 (8 months ago) Permalink
hole - nail - thaw
best trilogy ever ?
i think so.
just given them all a spin tonight and to say i got the same blood rush as i did back upon their release would be an understatement.
unbelievable stuff given the studio restrictions of the day ..
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 19:54 (8 months ago) Permalink
Male is maybe the best live album ever recorded.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Sunday, 2 September 2012 21:00 (8 months ago) Permalink
i saw that tour
it was immense.
in london the support was gary clail and on-u sound.
which was perfect for me, but mad as a box of frogs for others.
and then when jim jumped into the moshpit and beat the living daylight out of one of the moshpit crew then the levels of intensity went up to a whole new level.
blood. violence. and elton john cover versions.
what more could you ask from a concert.
― mark e, Sunday, 2 September 2012 21:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, it was an awesome tour right enough.
I remember hearing the album for the first show in Prong's tour bus - Troy Gregory was unusually proud of it.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Sunday, 2 September 2012 21:23 (8 months ago) Permalink
Watch out for JG at 2:25 on this:
― everything, Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:32 (8 months ago) Permalink
i hope you guys vote for the Foetus albums in FORGET THE ROLLING STONE CANON HERE IS ILM'S HARD STICK OF 1980'S ROCK POLL ALBUMS/TRACKS VOTING THREAD. (Voting closes September 20) (all welcome to vote inc Lurkers)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
In a Rolling Stones poll?
― ms fotheringham (Crabbits), Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:05 (8 months ago) Permalink
Has anyone else noticed what feels like an unnaturally enormous number of used Foetus LPs out there in the world?
― Clarke B., Sunday, September 2, 2012 9:50 AM (7 hours ago)
yeah, though ime it's mostly the "finely honed machine", "ramrod" and "bedrock" 12-inches, along w/ the wiseblood stuff
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 3 September 2012 00:23 (8 months ago) Permalink
― don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Monday, 3 September 2012 01:30 (8 months ago) Permalink
lols at the orange juice clip!
― fit and working again, Monday, 3 September 2012 03:32 (8 months ago) Permalink