sleeve, nope. The track from the Ys Street Band EP is "Colleen". This other one's a newer song she played a few nights ago in Rome.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 27 September 2007 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread demonstrates the limitations of the ILM c/d binary. I don't think she's a dud at all, but she hasn't really been around long enough for any kind of Classic status. I like many of the songs on Milk-Eyed Mender but I've heard less from Ys (only "Cosmia" I think, which is great) and another couple of songs here and there, including this new one linked to, which is also very good. I don't think she's really going for the twee hippie faerie thing at all, more a kind of odd slant on the periphery of folk (and orchestral folk on the last album, from what I gather), and she does do interesting rhythmic things (not just melodic) with her harp sometimes. It's not background music; you have to give it your attention. The voice can be grating, but so can Dylan's.
― Lostandfound, Thursday, 27 September 2007 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link
she does do interesting rhythmic things (not just melodic) with her harp sometimes
OTM. There's supposed to be some African drum pattern things in there, I think I've read?
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:26 (sixteen years ago) link
yes she acknowledges the influence of the mbira, which is actually more of a kalimba/thumb piano type instrument - primarily melodic not rhythmic, but it has its own rhythms. See the music of Thomas Mapfumo for examples.
― sleeve, Thursday, 27 September 2007 06:59 (sixteen years ago) link
but she hasn't really been around long enough for any kind of Classic status
Exactly. She's young, too. My answer upthread is provisional, of course, but considering her more recent output, she does seem to be evolving in an interesting way and has developed an unusual ability to write engaging songs, notwithstanding their length.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:01 (sixteen years ago) link
yes she acknowledges the influence of the mbira
Hmm? I've heard her go on about the kora influences in her playing/composing, but this wouldn't surprise me, either.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:03 (sixteen years ago) link
See, this is also why ILM is grate! My vague "interesting rhythmic things" becomes more fleshed out. I love Thomas Mapfumo, so I'm kicking myself that I didn't recognise it, but it explains why I was drawn in to some of JN's music, too.
Turangalila, I agree that she seems to be moving forward and toward... something. She's a compelling artist and I hope she does become classic one day.
― Lostandfound, Thursday, 27 September 2007 07:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I really miss when she used to put on that voice. She blanded out on Clam Crab Cockle Cowrie. The only letdown in an otherwise fantastic show she put on earlier in the year when I saw her.
― I know, right?, Saturday, 13 October 2007 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"At the regal Riverbend Centre on Saturday night, Joanna Newsom proved why she’s one of today’s most iconoclastic and oddly appealing musicians: not only did she mesh shockingly well with the ultra-classy Austin Symphony Orchestra, but she also managed to get in trouble for hauling a bottle of Maker’s Mark onto stage. And it’s in this almost-accidental appeal to both sides of the concert-going spectrum—as well as an almost embarrassing wealth of talent—that she has become a powerful force in sub-pop music."
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm seeing her at Disney Hall soon and I'm pretty sure I'm in for one of the best shows of my life. Seeing her on the first Ys tour was one of my favorite concert experiences.
― Bus Driver Stu, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
AWESOME re: Maker's Mark
xpost
― stephen, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
classic. i like her and her music.
― poortheatre, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Her show in Madison last year was appallingly bad. She showed up two and a half hours late and played a static and affectless set, or at least part of one -- I joined the stream of people leaving early. That said, when I later listened to the record I realized that the songs were pretty good. But I'd never see her live again.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link
she's rehearsing downstairs right now... playing here at BAM thursday and friday night. i can't decide if i should try and sneak in. maybe for a few mins
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I hope you did.
― Mr. Goodman, Thursday, 31 January 2008 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
the show is tonight! and tom night. will def sneak a peak
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 January 2008 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I like that she's a girl that's doing something kind of intellectual, but she just seems so privileged. I mean, there just isn't the kind of feeling of ... insecurity, or something, that I can identify with in music, or unfulfilled desire, or whatever. When you think about it, she plays a harp. There's a reason most musicians aren't playing harps. Like, where are you getting the money for a harp? Who's carrying it onto the stage for you? This is all a bit ad hominem, I guess.
― sleepy, Thursday, 25 June 2009 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I dunno, she might have bought her first one in a bott sale
Ha, Boot sale, but I'm keeping that typo.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, I suppose you could say the same thing about a drum kit? Or those big marshall amps. Or whatever. Still, there's this sense that rock is for poor losers and it's like, come on, don't descend into our grubby realm with your amazing intellect and your beauty and your harp and walk all over us ... you already have your privileged sphere, what do you want with ours?
― sleepy, Thursday, 25 June 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link
It was like when all those punk bands came out with Fenders (particularly Pete Stride of the Lurkers, on the "I don't need to tell her" single, for some reason), and I was like "whoa, expensive guitar!"
"yeah, we nicked them", yeah uh-huh righto...
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2009 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Harp makes for a bit of variety though eh? Who cares how she bought it.
― Number None, Thursday, 25 June 2009 10:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Good job reviving a thread to make a specious complaint you don't even maintain the validity of for 15 minutes
― DJ MARTIAN IS A KING AMONG MEN. Dan Perry, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Joanna Newsom makes rock music?
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 25 June 2009 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link
she makes Rocke Musick
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i wz hoping the revive meant smth about a new album or smth
sigh
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't she play a bunch of new songs recently somewhere?
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
New album in Fall on Drag City
http://billions.com/avails
― StanM, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ah, that's cool. i like her quite a bit -- maybe not as nuts as some people are about her, but she is definitely very good. also glad she's sticking with Drag City -- for some reason I thought she'd jump ship for Nonesuch or something.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Still, there's this sense that rock is for poor losers
maybe this "sense" is what you need to think a little harder about, not joanna n. going to college to learn an instrument, which a lot of people do.
― goole, Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Still, there's this sense that rock is for poor losers and it's like, come on, don't descend into our grubby realm with your amazing intellect and your beauty and your harp and walk all over us ... you already have your privileged sphere, what do you want with ours?
Yeah not really going to explore this in too much depth because it's obviously retarded but this is all tied in to outmoded and artificial ideas about authenticity in rock music.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 25 June 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
http://naturalismo.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/joanna-newsom-played-upcoming-third-album-live-in-full-in-big-sur/
― StanM, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link
oh joanna
you can do no wrong! If you masturbated on stage and plucked the harp with your pussy, I'd love it!
...
ps. the first time I heard Ys I CRIED TOO
SO EMOTIONAL
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― Guy de & (country matters), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
lol so much projecting going on w/that revive
― spiritual giant Cubby Culbertson (omar little), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i only have ill feelings toward joanna because i saw her open for the incredible string band and all the people were there to see her! no one seemed to know who the old, weird headlining hippies were.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
not her fault obviously
that is pretty sad
― Suckanoosik Chamber of Commerce (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
that's so sad
xpost!
― my asian girlfriend (bug), Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link
the leopard skin tights she is wearing in that link are way more unforgivable than playing a harp
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
oh it was so sad then again, this is better on the eyes http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/01/06/joanna_newsom_narrowweb__300x450,0.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
than thishttp://www.wnyc.org/images/slideshows/incredible_string_band/IncredibleSB1.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
there's a shirley collins album where in the liner notes she refers to the incredible string band as 'a pair of handsome gypsies'
― thomp, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Callahan,you lucky bastard
― Zeno, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah, ISB had it goin' on back in the day, in that forest hippie kinda way, but in the 21st century, not so much.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
nah, it's Samberg now. (xp)
― Simon H., Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone ever seen her and Regina Spektor in the same room?
― Eazy, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
omg fernwood is gonna blow up now!
i went to so many of those folk yeah things in big sur, kinda bummed i never knew about this secret joanna newsome performance business
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Samberg and Newsom -
Love has no rules
― Zeno, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
also like Joanna for the fact that she's a Moore Bros. supporter -- those guys are like the 21st century Incredible String Band. So much handsomer too.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
"the 21st century Incredible String Band"
Animal Collective?
― Zeno, Thursday, 25 June 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link