Dexy's Midnight Runners: Classic Or Dud

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In terms of the cultural gap thing I thought it would be interesting to run Dexy's by the collective ILM readership. Revered to the point of total adoration by a certain sector of UK fandom and - I would guess - a one-hit novelty act in the US. Were Dexy's all they are talked of being, and why didn't Kevin Rowland's vision travel?

Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

two words: save ferris

ethan, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Classic for sure. "Searching for the Young Soul Rebels" is just about perfect. A pure vision, great songs, big ideas (and a great cover). "Too-Rye-Aye" is almost as good, a step forward from an artist not afraid to change, not scared to be different from the rest.

Why didn't it travel? Did they even try to crack the USA? Despite the familiar soul influences, I guess Rowland was/is just too cussed to try and change his behaviour in order to sell records. His control freak nature probably precluded a 150-date assualt on the small towns of America in the name of 'promotion', and it's doubtful if the band would have lasted that long anyway. Imagine being cooped up with Kev in a tour bus!

With the Soul/Stax/Northern Soul influences Dexys should be accessible to a US Audience, yet are somehow quintessentially British. Maybe someone from the US of A can explain better than me why they don't translate.

Dr. C, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

You know, I've a funny story about Dexy's Midnight runners. I was in the back seat of the car of my girlfriend's stepdads-mobile and for some reason I said some song reminds me of "Come On Eileen" and then I said, "Who was that, anyway? Toto?" and the stepdad went and had a fit, "You have got a lot to, learn young man. To-to! That is NOT Tow-tow (overenunciating to show his disgust, I guess). That is Dexy's Midnight Runners who are definately NOT Toto." He went on and on. I don't know enough about either Toto or Dexy's Midnight Runners to give a crap.

But, that's the only Dexy's song I've ever heard.

Anyway, I got the stepdad back next time when I said Korn were a bunch of Marilyn Manson ripoffs and that both of them suck anyway. He said, "Nu-uh! No way! Fraid not, young man! I remember Korn way back in lahk (Texas accent) 1988 or some shit and Manson wasn't even a thought in his drunken daddy's mind..." Welp, research confirmed Manson formed in 1989 and Korn in 1992 or 93. And they DO both suck.

john yonderboy, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

When it comes to America, Dr. C, they sure as hell did have a big ass hit here with "Come on Eileen" -- went to the top of the charts. Furthermore, I do remember them on mainstream pop music shows not on MTV pushing the single, so they *did* try, but I don't know if they toured. Beyond that, nothing else ever went anywhere in the States, and I knew nothing of their semi-mythic reputation over in your neck of the woods until the very late eighties, really.

I like 'em -- got the first two albums, and they're both very enjoyable.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Classic! Searchin for... is just an amazing debut - they managed to cross punk and soul and not make it a mess. Bonus points too for There There My Dear as its about someone called Robin...

Dont Stand Me Down is just as great but in a different way. Whereas the first album is about the gang mentality, this one is more based of a personal thing for KR. who waould have thought that some bloke mumbling over slow backing tracks could sound so good? Only Arab strap have managed to do this anytrhing like as well...

As fot the second alblum, I'm not so sure coz I havent listened to it much, put off by come On Eileen. I even like come on Eileen at the beginning until the Chorus kicks in and I start running. I obviously dont like this coz normally over playing doesnt put me off songs: I could listen to Dancing queen every day and be perfeclt happy. Oh, those pianos...

Robin, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

So we're really going to discuss every single band of the 80s? :)

Omar, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

The first incarnation of the band was good...but the Come On Eileen phase? oh dear.

on napster someone thought Come On Eileen was by The Clash.

, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Oh good heavens, the Clash? I want to shoot myself for fear of what the world has become.

Ally, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I'm apalled too. "Come On Eileen" is clearly better than anything the Clash recorded. I may have heard it a million times but the first verse still gets me - "broke a million hearts in mono". Fantastic stuff: that, for me, is pop.

And the third album is unprecedented. I'm sorry if that makes me sound like Chris Roberts or someone, but it's true.

Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I wish I could sound like Chris Roberts.

Or someone.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

"Come On Eileen" is NOT clearly better than anything the Clash ever recorded; surely "Train in Vain" and "Should I Stay Or Should I Go?" are quite equal to the task. That being said!

A) Come On Eileen is great. Not as great as The Safety Dance but NO SONG IS. The breaking hearts in mono line is genius, but Tom already knew I agreed with him because we once actually had a conversation about Dexy's, no idea why now but I remember it occuring. B) Dexy's and the Clash sound about as much alike as Kylie Minogue and Madonna. For those of you not paying attention, that means they're nothing alike. But that's what Napster is fun for, searching for a song and staring in amazement at either the wrong band names or made up song titles. It's like a look into my mom's mind.

Ally, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I rather feel that Dexy's Midnight Runners are way overrated. But if they weren't, I'd feel sorry for them. There's a whole other interesting emotional-musical category: Bands You Like Cos You Feel Sorry For Them. Far more common, in my life, than Bands You Like To Annoy Somebody Else (and other improbable variants).

the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

it really depends on what side of the Atlantic you're on. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone over here who champion "Classic." And over there you have that recent Kevin Roland solo album debacle to erode respect.

brent d., Saturday, 3 March 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
Whether classic or dud - I think they were a bit of both, to be honest. They were so committed to what they did, that made them a classic - but at the same time, it blinkered them to their faults. If there's only one thing I admire about them - it's their gang mentality, them against the world. That makes a pop group something to aspire to - they had that mentality in spades. No other pop group since has had this . . .

Vaughan, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

.....except for Killing Joke!

HONOUR THE FIRE!

Sorry, sorry.

Tom, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...
I'm listening to "Don't Stand Me Down" as I type, and wanted to chime in with a "classic." FWIW, I can't think of a band I've loved as much this year as this one, partly because Kev caught me by surprise. It's so earnest, but it comes across as so honest as well. Songs such as "My National Pride" and "One of Those Things" would have encouraged snickers from me in the past, but now this Recovering Indie Boy is pro-sincerity and this is about as sincere as it gets, and rather beautiful as well -- and those are probably the weakest tracks on this record. I just believe every word that Kev sings or speaks. Sister Ray had a copy of "My Beauty" while I was traveling in October and, were I more nimble, I'd kick myself for not buying that.

KR has beauty and soul -- and not a regard for anyone else but himself, which I applaud. As singular to me as Struan in the good ol days, Travis Morrison or Isaac Brock at their more adventurous, Darren Hayman at his most pointed, or Jarvis. Daming praise to a lot of you, but, hey, when it comes to literate pop I guess I'm in Nitsuh's "music for you" pen.

scott p., Saturday, 1 December 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
I`ve been a DMR fan since they bought out Searching for the Young Soul Rebels. It was so fresh and new it blew my mind. Of course I had to turn the volume down on some of the songs with cuss words in them, but on the whole I was very impressed. I was 16 when Geno came out, and everytime I listen to that song it takes be back to 1980 when there wasn`t all that much good music about. I remember I had a poster on my wall of DMR. Kevin Rowlands et al were on a running track and were posed getting ready to run. I don`t know what ever happened to that poster, but whenever I hear Geno it takes me back to my teens and having posters on my wall such as DMR, Squeeze, and Paul Weller! Tom...I don`t understand why DMR were only a one hit wonder in the US either. They obviously didn`t appreciate them as much as the UK did. Their loss! :-D

Wendy B, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
I hear that EMI Liberty has a reissue of "Don't Stand Me Down" slated for 15th April. This one will be "The Director's Cut" apparently: KR having been unhappy with the sound on the Creation CD. Also, at least one additional song: "Kevin Rowland's Thirteenth Time" and - get this - VIDEOS for "This Is What She's Like" "Knowlegde Of Beauty" and "Listen To This". Not sure if those videos arer with the regular audio CD issue or something else, btw. I didn't know such things existed.

Tim, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Previously unissued, according to Robert Elms the other day.

N., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I've now seen these videos and they are great, particularly "This Is What She's Like": manages the balance between intensity and a sense of the ridiculous (and the ridiculously ordinary) in just the way the song does. Kevin's freaky dancing is a joy to behold.

The band they assembled for that "DSMD" looks even crazier on video.

Tim, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Being a youngster, I had a laissez-faire attitude towards Dexy's for many years, despite being excited by their awesome brass playing. But then I started a band with a couple of old control freaks, one of whom was obsessed with the way Kevin allegedly ran his band - making them go jogging and all that. He seemed keen to bring this kind of cult-y discipline to our group, and of course failed, but hearing all these stories about Kevin Rowland's rampant meglomania kinda put me off them. Now when I hear them I just think of frustrated shouty little men. I'm all in favour of great rock tales of mental band leaders if the resulting music justifies the means, but with Dexy's I just don't think it does. I'm sure you people disagree; maybe it's a generation thing.

Ondes Martinot, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Being a youngster, I had a laissez-faire attitude towards Dexy's for many years

That's the greatest start to a post in history.

Ally, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
hi there. the final word on it is that dexys are perfect. all their faults make them even more perfect because they show you what kevin was putting across.

"were just human and were just putting human feelings across"

not his words exactly but they looked right this way.

del a robbo, Thursday, 2 May 2002 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
I never knew or cared who did "Come on Eileen" until last night. I was riding in a taxi with my current love interest and the song came on. She asked (cautiously, in retrospect), "Do you like 80's music?" (meaning, I think, this kind of 80's music). I said, "Not particularly, but I like some of it." "Do you like this song?" "No." "Why do people like this song so much?" "I don't know. It probably has to do with things that were happening in their lives when the song was out." I like her more for asking why people like that song.

DUD

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:38 (11 years ago) Permalink

You are Nick Hornby, what did I win?

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 21 November 2002 18:44 (11 years ago) Permalink

b-b-but saying the dexys are only 'come on eileen' is such a false start. there's much more than that behind it.
and 'come on eileen' isn't such a bad song, it might just be that it's been so overexposed throughout the years (other examples like 'losing my religion' come to mind...).
in my book, the dexys are totally CLASSIC.

joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:34 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ally wins again!

Aaron W, Thursday, 21 November 2002 19:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

rockist- they made three records you know. I've heard the odd track from each of them and they are all quite diff in stylistic terms so don't dismiss 'em just for the one song.

thisreminds of the subway sect thread where pinefox dismissed them on one song.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

yes but the pinefox is the grebtest living englishman

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:35 (11 years ago) Permalink

"ooOOooh, we shall be exceedingly clevah and name ourselves after dexedrene and it's after-effects. How saucey indeed!"

I hate bands with clever names. They should have names that aren't trying to be clever at all, like Ray Gae & Skadorfis Skadorfis Skadorfis Skadorfis (featuring members of mid-90's ska stars, Orafice Skadorafice).

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:38 (11 years ago) Permalink

to judge a name by its name is so...that's kinda like judging a book by its cover dude!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

Joan and Julio, "Come on Eileen" is such a quintessentially annoying 80's song of the sort that is so popular around these parts, but fair enough: I have not knowingly heard any of their other songs.

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 21 November 2002 22:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

"Come On Eileen" is the best record ever made. If you don't like that there's not much hope for you vis a vis the rest.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

What Tom said.

Aaron W, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

why didn't Kevin Rowland's vision travel?

I think for precisely the Soul/Stax/Northern Soul influences cited by Dr. C, 1980s Americans wouldn't have found Dexy's accessible because of the soul influences but in spite of them. Americans don't have the same tradition of Blue Eyed Northern Soul as the British (we have the original) -- I have always been curious about Nothern Soul, actually. What is it?

Dexy's only made sense to me in the context of British post-punk -- artists like the Jam, Secret Affair, Magazine -- because Kevin's Rowland's vocals and attitude make the overall effect come off more like the Boomtown Rats than conventional soul artists. He sounds more angry than hurt. 1980s American angry was more along the lines of JFA and the DKs and, you know, so Dexy's wouldn't necessarily appeal to that audience, either. And Dexy's do the weird, 2-part song thing that we American's don't usually understand (like in "Geno," the Jams's "Little Boy Soldiers;" Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" . . . ) Ok there are exceptions, but it usually presents a major stumbling block.

Classic, by the way. I never, ever, ever tire of of Don't Stand Me Down. I think 25% of my ILM posts mention it.

(Here is where I can put in my plug for Kevin's solo album "The Wanderer" --no, not that horrible covers record from a couple years ago but a county and western album from 1988 or so. Has anyone on the face of this earth besides me ever heard it?)

felicity (felicity), Friday, 22 November 2002 02:45 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

"Come On Eileen" is the best record ever made.

I was just listening to this right now, being as I'm listening to Too-Rye-Ay, and now my memory of this song is the exultant sing/dance/shoutalong to it at the ending of Tom E's wedding FAP in London last October -- and Mike Daddino dancing on a chair to boot.

Yeah, pretty damn classic.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 19:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

so classic right now.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 June 2004 20:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I got into a fight because of "Come On Eileen" on Friday, which just re-emphasized the classic status of Dexys to me.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

This thread is not vast - yet it has been frequently revived.

I can essentially stand by what I and the lovely Msrk S said.

A question unanswered here is: why do Geezers love Dexy's?

the junefox, Monday, 7 June 2004 21:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

A fight! Details, Nicole!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I just got 'The Bridge', their live video thing today. Haven't watched it yet though.

Classic - Come on Eileen is one of the greatest pop songs ever written, and each of their albums is my favourite in a different way. If forced I might opt for Don't Stand Me Down as their masterpiece, but that's only because it's the last one I listened to. One of my favourite bands...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Monday, 7 June 2004 23:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

7 years pass...

New Dexys album in 2012. Involves Mick Talbot.

http://thequietus.com/articles/06562-new-dexys-album-in-2012

Alba, Monday, 11 July 2011 00:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Obviously there's been talk of this before but it feels like something might actually be occurring this time...

Rebekah Brooks Ate My Country (Doran), Monday, 11 July 2011 00:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kind of extcited and very nervous for this. I did like the two new songs on the best of and that demo they put on Myspace a few yeas ago was pretty cool so I'm hoping this will of a similar quality. The reunion show I saw them do in 2003 was the best gig I've ever been to, so much love for this band.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 11 July 2011 01:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Guitarist is this fellow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Hubbard

Seems like quite a lineup.

timellison, Monday, 11 July 2011 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink


Mark G, Monday, 11 July 2011 10:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Here is the influence "Don't Stand Me Down" had on the course of popular music.

None whatsoever.

You are all stupid scum and deserve to die, but that's another story."

http://www.hungoverdrawn.co.uk/dexys/03.html

piscesx, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 01:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

only the plinth remains.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Chris Roberts all over the MFing money

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dug this out last week (I took a long time to find the DVD edition when I bought it. It should have been made obligatory)

The improvements (missing tracks added, general sonic improvements) and the fact that there were at least two singles that should have been issued, means that this was designed by KRowland to be a 'neglected masterpiece'.

As it was, the LP version was dominated by the conversational bits. It needed more songs, and now it has them.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

At the moment, I am listening to "The Projected Passion Revue" on Spotify, I recommend this.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

wd have to listen to it separately, i will never contradict K. Rowland's decisions on anything

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well, he decided it should come out, so yeh.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

As it was, the LP version was dominated by the conversational bits. It needed more songs

I dont agree with this at all.

Tim, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well, that's how it seemed to me at the time.

(Yeah, that does read a bit Geirlike: purely my opinion there, probably should have played it more at the time.)

.. buat having "Kev Rowl's 13th dream" opening it now makes so much more sense, why did they not have it there in the first place? Running time issues?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

BECAUSE IT'S PERFECT AS ORIGINALLY RELEASED

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

otm, 13th Dream a huge opener. Occasional Flicker makes sense, sort of, as statement of intent, but it's slow burn.

Quietus article mentions it, but in case Londoners do not know, Rowland DJing at How does It Feel on Saturday. I enjoyed it last time - he plays some 70s soul, sings along a bit (led crowd in acapella continuation of 'Let's Go Round Again'), generally A Good Time (though I spent large part of evening working myself up to say thank you for all the music, meant a lot to me etc etc to him). Will try to get along, but may have to persuade girlfriend. Not her crowd.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

sorry xp otm, nv offtm

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

how often does he do this?

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

once every couple of years I think. This is the third time.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

maybe in two years i'll go

er, the director's cut looks way better at cd size, the original only works at vinyl size, so y'know

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

only saw the 12 minute This Is What She's Like Video (dailymotion + adverts, couldn't find a full youtube, soz) a few months ago – really show how great that look is/was.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

The CD+DVD version sold for around £10 recently on ebay.

There's two on there now, but for £84 or £40, maybe waiting would be best...

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

I always thought the Creation issue was just fine. The "poor mastering" or whatever always struck me as total revisionist horseshit, an outgrowth of KR's tendency toward self-loathing (just as the "MY DEAR FRIEND VINCENT CRANE, RIP" stuff on the original DSMD reissue seemed way over the top in retrospect -- probably had more to do with the fact that the dude died and struggled with manic depression all his life than the fact that he was one of Kev's soul brothers).

Love the guy, but he's not the guy I go to for a strict accounting of the past.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

KR looks like Alan Partridge in the pic from the opened-up booklet

And we were wearing a lot of athletic shorts. (jamescobo), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

I've always loved Don't Stand Me Down but the Director's Cut made it an even better album for me. Kevin Rowland's 13th Time works so much better as an opener than The Occasional Flicker. I seem to remember in the sleeve notes Kevin said he didn't want it on the original issue as he thought some of the drums were slightly out of time, didn't hear it myself. Not many moments in songs make me smile as much as him telling his joke half way through the song, especially the other band members reactions.

The DVD is essential, This Is What She's Like is so much fun but it's the performance of Listen To This that sums up just why I love them so much.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

i've only ever heard the director's cut, haven't much tried to get into anything else they've done, but i fuckin love this to death:

You ever hear the one about the, ah, middle-class idiots, who sort of spend all their time analyzing their own emotions? And writin bullshit poetry? You know, that we're supposed to read? I mean as if we're fuckin interested.

j., Wednesday, 13 July 2011 05:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

where would that This Is What She's Like video have been seen at the time? i mean it's 12 minutes long and yet the single edit of the song was 3 minutes!

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 06:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Absolutely nowhere, that's where.

Which was (one of) the problem(s).

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

New record.

I'll admit I was scared, but on a first listen it sounds tremendous. And their LPs are always growers, right?

Tim, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Very Growers.

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm really addicted to Nowhere is Home at the moment, his vocals sound so strong. Really quite excited for the album now. Some days I think they might just be my favourite band ever.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is the book about them by Richard White worth reading?

fit and working again, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

This was them last night. They were brilliant.

nate woolls, Saturday, 5 May 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

How were the new songs?

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 5 May 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

It just gets stranger and stranger.

In G2 today, a confused piece by Barney Hoskyns about Southern rock (i.e. Allmans, Skynyrd) which basically says that Southern rock is great but actually it's not because of the area's history of racism. Great logical thinking there.

I don't get either why the Grauniad has suddenly decided to have a downer on Amazon. Lots of drivel both in print and on the website about poor benighted booksellers being put out of business by Amazon, it stops new writers coming through EXCUSE ME! Haven't I had a book out for the best part of a year? And who is stocking it in their shops? Precisely one in central London and it's not just me either - all you see when you go into Waterstones is the same old bullshit, celebrity kitchen nightmares and lots of loss-leader discounts. Take away the discounts and you have Daunt Books. Whereas Amazon actually stocks my book and that's where nearly all my sales have come from. If places like Waterstones were serious they'd tell their Finance & Marketing departments to go take a hike and actually take chances on stocking books by new or unknown writers. Rave reviews in The Wire and Mojo, called the best music book of 2011 in the Telegraph of all places - but none of that means anything to the chains - finance say shit, Waterstones jump on the shovel.

So I don't actually give a toss about how much tax Amazon are or aren't paying; they sell new writers, and bookshops do not, and until that changes bookshops have no right to have a go because they should be doing a hell of a lot more for the likes of us.

Tim, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wurgh? I don't know what happened there, some strangeness with my phone - It seems to have quoted some text by Marcello on a thread from a while back. Sorry about that.

ANYWAY I've lived with "One Day I'll Soar" for a week or two now and it has grown on me as much as - more than - I'd hoped. It sounds like Dexys, which is a great start. It's closest in feel to "Don't Stand Me Down" but there are some delicious flavours of classy '70s soul: some WIllie Mitchell feeling here, some Philly business there. Like DSMD it doesn't have anything as hooky as "Come On Eileen" or "Geno" but the songs insinuate themselves very nicely. As ever with Dexys, you wind up feeling you have learned quite a lot about Kevin, sometimes maybe too much, but I find there are quite a number of laugh-out-loud moments on here too.

I adore the thing he does with the in-song conversations, and I don't know of anyone who does anything even vaguely similar. Do you?

I am now extremely excited about seeing them play the whole thing on Tuesday, especially with Nate's positive report here.

Tim, Sunday, 6 May 2012 07:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry I didn't reply. The new songs really were great, although the un-song conversations were a bit strange to see live - KR leaning on the other guy's shoulder and whispering in his ear; singing to pictures of a girl projected onto a screen, and then acting out scenes with the same girl later on.

Also, seeing them play an extended version of Come On Eileen made me appreciate what a great song it really is. Overplayed to death, but actually a brilliant song.

nate woolls, Sunday, 6 May 2012 08:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blatant self-promotion post but my 7000 word, 12-page interview/feature on Dexys is the cover story in the new Uncut.

Still only £4.80!

Stevie T, Sunday, 6 May 2012 09:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tim, so glad to hear the new album is strong. Really can't think of anyone else that does the conversations in the same way, it's what makes Don't Stand Me Down such an incredible album. Is the new album out there now or do you have a promo copy?

Nate, I saw them on the 2003 tour and they did lots of strange skits and lots of banter during the songs. It was without doubt the strangest and best gig I've ever been to. I won't be able to catch them this time unfortunately but would love to see them again. I totally agree with your thoughts on Come On Eileen, it's so overplayed and not one of my favourite Dexys songs at all but when they played it, it was so great and seeing the reaction it got was really something. I think I've appreciated the song a lot more since.

Steve, I just bought Uncut yesterday (saving it for a long flight next week) It's the first music magazine I've bought in ages. Really looking forward to reading the article.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 6 May 2012 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got lucky with a promo - it's out at the start of June I believe.

Tim, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

I really enjoyed it

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is brilliant. I'm so relieved.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

im listening to it again right now funnily enough

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

This tour came to Australia for two theatre shows last week. It was ridiculously, heart-swellingly great.

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

People of a certain age will connect as deeply to this as I did to the records-over-the-phone sequence in The Virgin Suicides.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

This tour came to Australia for two theatre shows last week. It was ridiculously, heart-swellingly great.

This. I don't think I've ever had so much *fun* at any type of show/concert ever.

After Cease To Exist Button (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 10:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I have just:

a) bought my tickets for the Duke of York's residency

b) Listened to Projected Passion Revue & thumped a wall in excitement harder than I intended at moment where Soon goes into Plan B.

Excited, knuckles hurt slightly, can't wait till April.

woof, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Going in I was a bit unsure about the new album & wondering whether my head was in the right place for latest part of the journey of K Rowland, but that was spectacular, an amazing evening. Really really fun, charming & the band are in great shape. Cathartic.

obvs highlight was This is What's She's Like, but Old – 'I'm getting old! What can I do? Absolutely nothing!' - was immense.

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds great, wish I could have gone to see them this time round. The show I saw them do in 2003 was maybe the best gig I've ever seen.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw them in 2003 too - I don't think it was quite up there with that, but haha yeah that's a v high bar, those shows were something else.

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I went there not really knowing what to expect, just thought they would be doing a straight forward hits set I guess. I did not expect all the sketches and little details they added to those songs. It was funny, moving and just ridiculous at times. This Is What She's Like (like you said) was the big highlight for me but really the setlist was perfect. Love this band so much.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, this has a lot of those same elements - drama, intensity, self-mockery - & carried some bits over - like the 'how can I stop the burning?' Kev/Pete-as-Policeman routine (which was amazing again).

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah that bit was amazing! I really love the album and would have liked to see it performed live but sadly I'm travelling in New Zealand and think by the time I get back to the UK the tour might be over.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

& something I only saw recently - 9 minute Too-Rye-Ay era rework of There, There My Dear, w/ press-ups. So good:

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

just didn't realise they were playing the roundhouse on Friday, think I might go again. Interested to see:

Sadly, Madeleine Hyland is unable to do the shows, but we are delighted that Siobhan Fahey will step in to play the female role. We’re sad that Maddy isn’t with us, but really feel good about Siobhan’s involvement.

woof, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:19 (1 month ago) Permalink


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