the spinanes / rebecca gates

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we haven't had a thread devoted to them/her, i've discovered -- just a few stray postings.

what do people think of the spinanes and rebecca gates?

a friend of mine bought me two spinanes albums some time ago--strand and arches and aisles.

strand strikes me differently roughly every other time i listen to it. i don't think it's a great album, but sometimes i can live with it, other times it sounds gratingly "arty" and thin on musical ideas. arches and aisles (i guess this is basically a r. gates solo record) is a very dependable album of its kind--i'm not sure i can say precisely what "kind" that is, but it has something to do with a kind of low-stakes indie that i mostly stopped listening to five or so years ago. i would really like to hear more than the few early spinanes songs i know.

i think gates is a very good singer, and i'm not sure the spinanes' records always make that evident. i've seen her perform solo several times in the post-spinanes days, and while her songs were hit and miss, she had an unerring sense of how to sing them. at a curtis mayfield tribute you, she sang "the makings of you" and her improvisations on the melody had great merit. she has good control over her voice too.

anyway, i last saw her perform maybe two years ago, or a year and a half. she was opening for smog and the crowd was way too noisy for her music to come across at all. sometimes i think the direction she seems to be moving in (fairly melodically simple, if sometimes intriguingly structured, songs with very delicate and thought-through vocals) has kind of made her obvious performing milieu (indie clubs) a risky bet.

anyway, anyone know what she's up to now? does she still live in chicago?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 20 September 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

the spinanes were one of my favourite bands of all time at one point. the early singles on Imp are so lovely lovely, "hawaiian baby" still gives me the most wonderful chills.

some of the production on their records is patchy and the songwriting on the third album wasn't quite as consistently strong as the first two, but i think the three albums are a pretty strong body of work in general. her voice is wonderful. and when she did a solo tour in australia she played a cover of the pretenders' "talk of the town" and melted my heart completely.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 20 September 2004 05:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"Spitfire" takes me back

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 20 September 2004 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i once spoke to her briefly about that song. she told me "that song is very close to my heart"

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 20 September 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, those first few singles are astonishing. There was an EP with the two Imp singles on Merge a few years ago--not sure if it's still in print.

Best mix-CD segue I've ever done: the semi-famous recording of postal workers at the University of Ghana post office canceling stamps --> "Spitfire."

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 20 September 2004 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link

First record is stellar. Saw them support that one and saw them years later supporting the last one and they were exceptional each one. Manos is really great, every song, particularly "Sunday."

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

: the semi-famous recording of postal workers at the University of Ghana post office canceling stamps

? Do tell me more, please.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, I forgot about that postal-worker recording! My friend gave it to me on a mix tape in '92 as a seque between two rap cuts, I think Grand Poobah and Brand Nubian. It worked really well. Is there an MP3 of that laying about somewhere?

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

MANOS PWNZ.

Scott Plouff's (sp?) drumming on MANOS is KILLER JAMZ.

ddb (ddb), Monday, 20 September 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

rebecca gates covering "talk of the town" sounds great! it think she should record some well-chosen covers.

i should really hear manos. the title always reminds me of manos: the hands of fate--serious cognitive dissonance.

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

if anyone wants a copy of the postal workers of ghana mp3 then click here, i'll leave it up for a couple of days.

zappi (joni), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

gah for some reason VOLUME is disabled on my work computer

amateur!!st, Monday, 20 September 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The Spinines did a very nice little 7" single where they covered two Rolling Stones "Between the Buttons" tracks. Cute cover homage to the Stones as well. I don't think it ever came out on CD.

dlp9001, Monday, 20 September 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

The Spinanes did a very nice little 7" single where they covered two Rolling Stones "Between the Buttons" tracks. Cute cover homage to the Stones as well. I don't think it ever came out on CD.

dlp9001, Monday, 20 September 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

that postal workers track is from the excellent Wolrds of Music comp - it's 3 CDs, textbook style, covering everything from Peyote chants to gamelan music - I think Mogwai sampled something from it. There's a Native American rock band who cover "Folson Prison Blues," that's amazing, and a group called Chinle Galilieans (sp?) who do this song "Clinging to a Saving Hand" that is just tremendous. Ned, you oughta get it! The accompanying book is cool too, explains all about morning / evening ragas, Western influence, etc. Really great. Big influence on me in college.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
would anyone happen to have a mp3 (192+) of "hawaiian baby"?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 25 December 2005 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Or how about Gates doing a TLC song. I saw her doing a wonderful version at the Black Cat in DC some years back. Silly me suggested to her after the show that she should do more covers like this and record them, and she quickly poo-pooed the idea. She had been mentioning onstage how much she was listening to r'n'b/rap radio, so I didn't think my suggestion was that out of the ordinary.

curmudgeon (Steve K), Sunday, 25 December 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

love love love her/them. Saw Spinanes once in Manos era, saw Gates acoustic last year with a cello player, she played Arthur Russell's "A Little Lost" and now I can die happy, it was that good.

"Hawaiian Baby" coming up later today unless someone does it first.

sleeve, away, Sunday, 25 December 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My first YSI, hope it works.

Hawaiian Baby

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 25 December 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

One of my favourite artists. Saw her ages ago in Adelaide, she did a beautiful cover of "I Don't Want To Hear It Anymore". I wish I could hear Rebecca Gates cover Arthur Russell. One of the few artists w/a perfect track record re: releases. What's she up to now?

jon dale, Sunday, 25 December 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link

strand is such a wonderful record.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 26 December 2005 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

My first YSI, hope it works.

god bless you, merry gentleman. i will now use it for a mix cd.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 26 December 2005 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Hey I love these guys. My favorite has to be Sotto Voce, which they recorded as 'Cradle Robbers' on the Red Hot and Bothered CD from the Red Hot line. Would not want this to get lost. If you ever have a chance, see this somewhere, pick it up. But it's a little rare. Yay.

humansuit, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 09:14 (sixteen years ago) link

i have that. it's gates and lois maffeo. a very lovely tune.

electricsound, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually named my blog after one of my favourite Spinanes songs.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Also I'm pretty impressed that on the Spinanes band website they still have a Rebecca Gates letter up from 1996 (!) as their latest update. I guess time moves slowly at Subpop.

humansuit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Finally got Manos (the hands of fate) last year for a buck or something. And it's indeed v. good.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I need that one and also this Sotto Voce track which I have never heard of.

sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

also am very glad Merge reissued their singles.

sleeve, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I got Manos on cassette on a Spring Break trip to the Rocky Mtns with my family and loved it. Still have that tape somewhere!

Trip Maker, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I need that one and also this Sotto Voce track which I have never heard of.

Yeah actually the Red Hot and Bothered CD is really a gem. Let's see - tracks from Juicy, Lisa Germano, Sea and Cake (I think), Built to Spill + Caustic Resin, etc. Very worthwhile purchase as a whole if you are hesitant to buy it just for the one track. Easily my favorite Red Hot compilation.

humansuit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I have the vinyl (I think there were two 10" vinyl editions) so am not sure the tracklisting matches, but there's a *great* Grifters song on this: The Empty Yard.

dlp9001, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

What's she doing now? I read that she performed at S x SW and lives in Brooklyn, but otherwise have not noticed anything.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Somewhat updated MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/rebeccagates

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Myspace link is excellent.

humansuit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Too bad she's not more prolific, I adore her Spinanes work but found her solo record completely unmemorable. I'm sure she's got more great music to offer the world.

Mr. Odd, Monday, 30 July 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Reposting from http://www.marfa.org/2008/09/ballroom-marfa-sessions.html

The Marfa Sessions, curated by Regine Basha, Rebecca Gates and Lucy Raven presents a series of individual sound projects, each engaging some aspect of Marfa's geographic, historical and unique social character. Basha, Gates and Raven have selected fifteen artists with specific interests in sound work and its potential as a transgressive medium within place and geography. Seven of these artists have been invited for individual site visits and residencies in Marfa, Texas in the year before the exhibition to collect field recordings, record interviews and document the landscape. The Marfa Sessions includes new contributions from Nina Katchadourian, Christina Kubisch and Kaffe Matthews, as well as collaborative work by Deborah Stratman/Steven Badgett, Steve Roden/Stephen Vitello and Steve Rowell/Simparch. Pertinent work from Emily Jacir, Louise Lawler, Inigo Manglano-Ovalle, Angel Nevarez & Valerie Tevere, Dario Robleto, and Julianne Swartz will also be featured in specific locations for the exhibition.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 September 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

portland, oregon september 16 with corrina repp and aux eutres
marfa, tx september 20,21
brooklyn, ny november 17 union pool

I bet that Arthur Russell thing she did in the spring was nice.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 September 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

nothing new from her?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

new album in a month, in fact

mookieproof, Sunday, 13 May 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

:D!!

Evan, Monday, 14 May 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link

I love the Spinanes, and they are very much not-the-sort-of-thing-I-usually-like.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 May 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link

Manos is really great, every song, particularly "Sunday."
― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, September 20, 2004 9:59 AM (7 years ago)

Good, I found what I would have said.

Evan, Monday, 14 May 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

Very good news. I think she's been working on that thing for a while. The Spinanes are great and Ruby Series was also great. I'm way looking forward to this.

She opened for the Decemberists show I saw. She was really good, and I was sooooo thrilled that she performed "Hawaiian Baby" (one of the best songs ever), but I got the distinct impression that 99% of the audience could not give even one tenth of a fuck. Such a shame.

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 May 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

Manos was one of my favorite records in high school, haven't heard it in so long. I never heard any of the following albums, would like to hear her covering Arthur Russell!

JacobSanders, Monday, 14 May 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link

We are about to begin fund-raising in order to complete and release the album.

Hopefully this has worked. She's on tour in the US SW now I see.

curmudgeon, Monday, 14 May 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

would like to hear her covering Arthur Russell!

it was so good!

I know I said this already but Imp Years is some of the finest indie rock the 90's had to offer.

I will totally listen to this new rec, need to catch up.

sleeve, Monday, 14 May 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

I wanna clarify, because I'm surprised by the relative lack of discussion of it in this thread (aside from the general agreement that it is, indeed, fantastic), that "Hawaiian Baby" is one of the best songs ever because it's maybe the best breakup song ever. It's pretty much the Platonic ideal of utilizing very specific and very personal details in the service of encapsulating a universal experience (in this case, the melancholy of sorting through post-breakup memories and miscellany).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvr75rZmZ2A

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

Manos and the stars are insane both remind of great high school late nights.

JacobSanders, Monday, 14 May 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

Also wanna rep for Arches & Aisles. That album is super underrated. It's different from the first two, but it has that amazing and sunny late-'90s John McEntire production and feels of a piece with TNT (and maybe Dots and Loops, to a lesser extent).

Bob Bop Perano (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 14 May 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link

the first time i heard the spinanes was on a mixtape i got from a girl who lived in houston (her grandmother lived down the street from us which is how we met, she had green hair and i was in love) anyway she made me this tape with Helium, Tsunami, Crayon field mice, even the Sundays and the Smiths and Spitfire by the Spinanes. i was a bus boy on the weekends and mowed lawns, after her first few tapes, i started spending all of my money through mail order catalogs.

JacobSanders, Monday, 14 May 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link

Also wanna rep for Arches & Aisles. That album is super underrated.

Co-sign. Just the way it starts, with the chippy-happy bongos (or whatever) immediately brings a smile to my face.

I was really underwhelmed by her solo mini-album, though. There was just... something... missing.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link

I wish they'd done a whole album....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPFXsdfjIII&feature=youtu.be

dlp9001, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link

Stupid youtube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPFXsdfjIII

dlp9001, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link

Co-sign. Just the way it starts, with the chippy-happy bongos (or whatever) immediately brings a smile to my face.

"Kid In Candy" = pretty perfect pop.

Gates was at the time experimenting with R&B, covering songs by Aaliyah ("Are You That Somebody?") and TLC ("No Scrubs") in concert, and the sultry vibe of that genre also informed her singing in the studio.

Haven't found these on youtube. I saw her do "No Scrubs."

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Rebecca has a full-length solo album out, "The Float". I've listened to it a couple of times and it's growing on me, though it's mostly gentle and I miss the swagger of The Spinanes. Still, the closing track in particular is great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 5 July 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

More tour dates for Gates and the Consortium. But grrr, I will be away on vacation when she's in my neighborhood

07/20/12 – Philadelphia, PA – Milkboy
07/21/12 – Brooklyn, NY – Rock Shop Brooklyn
07/22/12 – Somerville, MA – Radio Bar
07/26/12 – Washington, DC – Black Cat DC
07/27/12 – Chapel Hill, NC – Local 506
07/28/12 – Columbus, OH – Double Happiness
07/29/12 – Chicago, IL – The Hideout

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

oh fuck i missed those dates, was kind of hibernating in july. dammit.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 5 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

ten years pass...

moving down on taylor
dinner with your father
looking for a mailbox
someone's rolling in the mud
someone does it just because

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 04:50 (ten months ago) link

I should listen to them again. Always liked them. I think Gates is living In Portland again but I don’t think she’s put out any new music in a bit.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 18:28 (ten months ago) link

my love is well documented itt but I now realize I don't have that Stones covers 7", so thanks for revive mookie

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 6 June 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link

just heard "kid in candy" for the first time in ages and it is still a terrific pop song

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 21:44 (ten months ago) link

It’s so good

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 12:11 (ten months ago) link

As a NZer, did not expect the extended G.Downes nods in "Hawaiian Baby".

etc, Thursday, 8 June 2023 03:21 (ten months ago) link

Snippet of her Arthur Russell cover here:

https://m.facebook.com/lacastanya/videos/10155247285851737/

etc, Thursday, 8 June 2023 03:23 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

happy 30th to manos

mookieproof, Thursday, 26 October 2023 22:17 (five months ago) link


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