PSYCHODELIK by LFO is the best techno track dammit

That's a quote. I have no fucking idea what you're on about.

Although my mom weirdly referenced them in an email once, which made little sense to me.

'A Salute To Those Who Say Fuck You'

Jez Varley's little bro sorted out my first berry - what a claim to fame. Nice guy, but sorry LFO really aren't very good.

i fail to see what makes e.g. Plaid better or more interesting.

'Sheath' wears it's back to basics declaration on it's sleeve. i thought u-ziq's 'Bilious Paths' was probably better tho.

is 'Homogenic' the best produced of the Bjork albums?

"Vorhees", "Tied Up" and that other track Gez Varley worked on on the album are all throwaways to me though. I think Psychodelik should have been the single, obv, but that was about when I started to realize what other people liked about techno and what I liked about techno were often very diff. things (cf. "We Have Explosive" being the single off of Dead Cities and Ventolin being the single from ICBYO, wtf is that)

The little piano chord loop in Psychodelik with the goofy buzzing monotone bassline, I could listen to that all day really. I am, in my head.

Plaid can write tunes and don't sound like a four year old randomly hitting a cheap bontempi organ on the "special fx" voice.

No, I've tried all there albums and I've never been able to put my finger on why they were supposed to be so great. The noises sound cheap and tacky, the few hooks they have grate on me, none of the tracks give me any kind of vibe or feeling. It's just really clinical minimal techno and it just sounds amateurish to me. I know a lot of bedroom boffins who could pound something better than any of the tracks on Sheath within a couple of hours. Oh, and Homogenic's production isn't THAT good c'mon!

Bleep techno was some of the first music I remember liking and I loved "LFO" (the tune) when it first came out. I listen to the Warp "Classics" album now and it really does sound dated. There are a couple of good ones like "Join The Future" and "Testone" but I feel Mark Bell never learnt to make new sounds. Or get any ideas for that.

*phew* it's stopped now.

all going out of time and hitting itself. that's not good, it's lazy gypsy-skilled programming. please don't compare it to plaid chzthx.

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(xpost -- DL you're stepping over the line by talking shit about "Loch Ness"!)

What the hell are you talking about? Have you ever listened to the dancer in the dark sndtrk he did with bjork? I pretty much hate bjork outside of Birthday by the Sugarcubes, but that record is brilliant. His production is spot on, the writing is solid, and the arrangements are great. It is an objectively good record from a technical standpoint, regardless of your aesthetic sensibilities.

The problem with that last record was that it was poorly sequenced. It jumped all over the place between the deeper more abstract chill tracks, which were the best part of the record, and loud dance tracks which were so-so. The problem was Bell never gave the music a chance to establish a mood through the course of the record. A lot of people never gave that record a chance, and they missed out bigtime on some great tracks.

I took four of the more mellow IDM jams a lined them up in a row without the dance stuff on a mix cd last year and about 40% of the people I sent it to were shocked about how good those tracks were and how they regreted not giving the album more time. It was odd how much that sentiment was echoed in the responces I got from that mix. I think Freek got all the attention and it wasn't so hot, so everyone just assumed that it was a retro 90's rave album and let it slip through the cracks. The quiet moments are the ones that really shine on Sheath.

what's the best starter album to heard from LFO?

frequencies is one of my favorite warp albums too. actually it's probably one of my favorite albums ever.

Orbital's "Chime" and "Belfast" are also from that time period, and I think they will also draw a lot of votes in the poll.

why?

why is a CD copy of "advance" so hard to find?

because it has the best techno song ever on it, duh

I just really, really, really love the shuffle and the sounds on this one

Is it really that hard to find? A quick check reveals you can order the CD even through a local online record store (www.cdon.com), whose catalogue is probably a hundred times smaller than the biggest online stores.

Jez Varley's little bro sorted out my first berry - what a claim to fame. Nice guy, but sorry LFO really aren't very good.

-- dog latin (dog latin),

xpost i didn't say "hard to find in finland / the EU" dumbass

Oh sorry, I forgot you live in USA.

about Sheath:

I took four of the more mellow IDM jams a lined them up in a row without the dance stuff on a mix cd last year and about 40% of the people I sent it to were shocked about how good those tracks were and how they regreted not giving the album more time..

that sounds like a good idea actually

back to Advance ... TIED UP TIED UP TIED UP. i want to be killed by that song.

i have that mix of mike's and w/ the four LFO tracks and it's sounds as good as he says

Here's a gift for you LFO fans, in case you don't already have it:

LFO - Slow Down Speedy

I think this tune was only released on an ancient Volume CD, plus on The Best of Volume comp. It's quite fun!

here's the thing. you're right, tuomas, i could get a copy off amazon.com right now.

but alec empire albums from the mid-90s go for $1-5 dollars apiece on amazon and ebay. you can get plaid albums, squarepusher albums, autechre albums for a penny, 50 cents, 99 cents if you dig.

i've been looking for years and years and i haven't found a copy of advance *anywhere* for less than $10!

what gives

Maybe it's just better than the ones you've listed? I'd definitely sell my 90's ATR, Squarepusher, and Autechre records for cheap too, because I find them mostly crap these days and never listen to them.

There are certain records you never find in the used records bins either, 'cause people just don't want to sell them. In August I had to go through half of Berlin's record stores to find some old Air Liquide CDs.

are u not a downloady guy moonship

cos found a link for it straight away pretty much if u want

i have a burned copy, i just like the physical artifact.

Thanks for that Link Tuomas. Listened to LFO a lot last week actually.