Does one need to be British to enjoy Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis & AR Kane?

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or is it just too late to get it?

over the past few weeks, because of such high praise of said bands, i've picked up cds by each of these artists. Disco Inferno's "Technicolour" was listened to once, and sold back. sounded like some bad brit pop something or other. Bark Psychosis' "Hex" is a little better, sorta reminds me of Talk Talk, but i've only put it on once or twice, and i just got AR Kane's "69" yesterday, and it's kinda cool, but i just don't know. luckily they were all pretty cheap, so i don't mind.

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link

wrong disco inferno... you need d.i. go pop, and it's fantastic, and i'm not british even as far back as 400 years

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

JaXoN, dear friend, there have been all sorts of Disco Inferno threads where surely you've noticed that while Technicolour gets positive note it's the five EPs and D.I. Go Pop that we collectively explode in delight over, and which I encourage you to check out without hesitation.

Or it was just too late for you to get it. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link

figures Ned would get something in immediately.

i am not british so I say no. i also like that you can buy a lot of this type of stuff for a couple bucks. i just got Euphoria for like 4$ (including shipping).

― artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

ned, i knew you'd be one of the first to respond.

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

what is it that im' missing? i've had MBV forever, i got into Flying Saucer Attack and other droney bands, but i just never got into Brit Pop. is that the missing link that keeps me from liking them?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm, no. but technicolour is not a very good album, I don't think. let me make a cdr of the eps for you. hex will grow on you, I think, though maybe you'd like the new one more; I didn't like hex much at all when it came out, it was several years before I really appreciated it. ARKane too!

These records aren't very immediate, to me; they are a little hard to grasp at first. I'm not sure why. I'm not english so that can't be it.

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

What's Brit Pop got to do with it?

― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I can see why JaXoN is bringing up Britpop in that Technicolour is the most 'traditional' album, for lack of a better word, that the band did. In Debt is the explicit Joy Division/Durutti/Wire tribute, to be sure, but after that is when everything suddenly turned into jawdropping glory.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

technicolour wasn't even what they wanted to release, was it? the master tapes got lost or stolen and they had to do it all over again?

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I love Technicolour anyway. I can't see how it sounds remotely like britpop, bad or otherwise. Maybe the wrong CD got put in the box?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I 1000% knew this was a JaX0n thread. Don't say I didn't warn you!

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i know, but i keep trying? dunno why?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

here's another thing. maybe it's not a british thing. maybe it's a 90s sound thing i can't get into? i'll hold onto these for another 10yrs for the 90s revival to come into sight and maybe i'll be glad i have them?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

These records aren't very immediate, to me; they are a little hard to grasp at first.

but that's the kinda stuff i look for. i think maybe i listened to so much american post rock and other experimental music that this stuff seems, i dunno, too immediate. maybe there's a non-immediate immediacy that i need to wait for to get it?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link

JaX0n, one more hint: do not, no matter how many pages s1m0n r3yn01ds decides to devote to them, DO NOT fall for the Rollerskate Skinny hype.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Gygax speaks very, very wise words. VERY wise words.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i've never really read any r3yno1d5, i think i blame ILM

― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember enjoying AR Kane for a while....and am not British.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like the new Bark Psychosis album and I am not particularly british.

With a last name like Rodriguez I could almost be the inverse.

― hector (hector), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow!

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I thought you said 'universe'.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I grew in pop.75, rural Virginia on a farm, still live there too and I have no problems stacking my copies of Hex,69 or D.I. Go Pop right next to Honky Tonk Heroes or The Pressure Is On. They're all fine to these ears regardless of their country of origin.

― db_va, Monday, 16 August 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

the new epic 45 is more like the bark psychosis album i was hoping for.

― keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 01:02 (nineteen years ago) link

someone should do a mix of these records for jason and maybe he will be able to appreciate them more. Of course these albums are very dear to my heart but I can also see where, as full albums, they're just a little monotonous or something (honestly, though I listen to it all the time, I can't really tell you the names of any of the songs on Hex by listening to it). If you juggle these things together though, I think you get a better sense of the unique qualities.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 02:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I can never find full Disco Inferno albums anywhere. They have the worst name to search online EVER.

― David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 06:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha. True.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link

The trick is probably to search for a song title with less common words from the album you want, such as "In Sharky Water" from D.I. Go Pop (along with the band name, of course). When results come up, examine the names of the folders where the owners keep the track, and browse user files to see whether the promising candidate folders are complete.

― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link

With our usual exquisite timeliness, there's another DI piece up on Stylus today, in which young Mr Unterbergergerbegerbegerbegebr dices and splices DI Go Pop with some EP tracks to make a more user-friendly track listing.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's Andrew's piece - http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1176

And here's summat I wrote which kinda has listening tips if you read it backwards in the dark - http://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=1062

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also it might help if you thought of DI specifically as PostPop rather than PostRock. Also only listen to Bark Psychosis at night when it's hot and weird.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:01 (nineteen years ago) link

They're highly over-praised although have some good points. Except AR Kane, who are absolutely dire.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! AR Kane are the worst of the three, definitely, but there are some great songs on "i". 69 does nowt for me apart from the first track.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i want to live in the world where disco inferno, bark psychosis and ar kane are over-praised. how do you get there from here?

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:36 (nineteen years ago) link

they're over-praised HERE!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:42 (nineteen years ago) link

the screen continues to present an impermeable barrier to me.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 08:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm British and none of those bands are much cop, and I do blame s1m0n r3yn01ds. Flying Saucer Attack, they're rubbish too.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

FSA suck ass. What a fucking onetrick joke of a band

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice article, Andrew U!

You know how these singles were even more fully ignored than the full-length, but that when compiled, these EPs make just as much of a classic album as Pop is

Yes, yes I do. ;-)

FSA suck ass.

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

It may have been a single trick, but it was a bloody good one.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:51 (nineteen years ago) link

if someone puts together an ep-compilation, could i get a copy, too?

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I am starting to think Ned has probably sent out more CD copies of the EPs than Disco Inferno sold in their lifetime.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm positive he has

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

If Ned wants to deal with American requests for the EP compilation, I will happily deal with UK requests.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

IamintheUKandwouldlikeoneofthese kthxbye

(I'll email you when I get home Nick, can't gmail at work)

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Okey dokey.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I am starting to think Ned has probably sent out more CD copies of the EPs than Disco Inferno sold in their lifetime.

That's both cool and frightening if true.

The offer to burn still stands as always -- Scott Seward and another ILXor are on the to burn list. Thanks for Nick for offering to take care of the UK wing; I'm more than happy to accept requests from literally anywhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

ned - ill email you my info from my gmail account

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Rockness. And of course what's turned out to be the major DI thread on this site is here:

Disco Inferno: please help me out

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice article, Andrew U!

Thanks, Ned. I owe much of the article to you for introducing me to the five EP comp.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, nice. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

These records aren't very immediate, to me; they are a little hard to grasp at first.

Moonshake's Eva Luna is very immediate, but then so is Technicolor to me and the title track is closer to Def Leppard than it is to britpo(o)p.

I wouldn't reccommend listening to Disco Inferno, say, in your car because it ends up sounding like a jumbled mess (or you could just turn it up really loud). I think if they wanted to be more successfull they should have put the vocals higher up in the mix (like Moonshake [except when the girl is singing and I spose they weren't much more 'successfull']).

― artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i think maybe i listened to so much american post rock and other experimental music that this stuff seems, i dunno, too immediate. maybe there's a non-immediate immediacy that i need to wait for to get it?

If you drink Sunny Delight for years and years, that first sip of fresh-squeezed Valencia might well taste a little strange and off-putting.

― Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Sim0n R3ynolds jock-ridin' ball-trippin' foolishness knows no political boundaries. That said I heard Hex once and it sounded kinda neat (can't remember anything though). A.R. Kane sounds like whales humping and I haven't heard Disco Inferno yet.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

YOU EXTOL THE VIRTUES OF LIMP BIZKIT ON A REGULAR BASIS BUT YOU HAVE NOT HEARD DISCO INFERNO YET.

Unlike Alex in NYC, I will not damn thee out of hand. But e-mail me your address NOW, you punk. You're getting a CDR whether you like it or not.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

shall I return the favor with the finest of droppings from Fred's Chocolate Starfish?

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you no. That I have heard. I curse myself to this day.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

feh. No copy of The B-Boy With The Thorn In His Side for you.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned your Disco Inferno proselytizing knows no bounds. I applaud you sir (but quietly so that the neighbors in my building aren't anymore frightened of me than they already are from the weird loud musics and weird smelling curries).

― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

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― artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I got the three albuns.

I really enjoyed disco inferno. Bark Psychosis is also good.

But AR Kane is just boring.

― Elvis is Dead, Sunday, 5 September 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

*enjoys A.R. Kane's 69 although he has heard people think it sounds like Cocteau Twins with something up their ass*

― Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

a.r.kane - baby milk snatcher - now playing on 6 Music

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 2 January 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

feh. No copy of The B-Boy With The Thorn In His Side for you.

this made me LOL ^

(all three bands excellent, btw)

― stephen, Sunday, 9 March 2008 08:54 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

reminiscent of the prettier DI stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LYCVz1r6XU

― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 22 January 2014 09:02 (ten years ago) link

I will openly admit to actively disliking AR Kane. I had 69 and the Lolita EP and I recently traded both for some Ohio Express records and I feel like I got the better end of that deal by far.

Love Bark Psychosis and Disco Inferno is fine by me.

― Austin, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 17:52 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Really, really want to love Bark Psychosis but every time I listen to Hex the vocals remind me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ERiI1epI4

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 3 February 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

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