Do we like Juana Molina?

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haven't heard anything yet, but looks interesting. Slsking - what should I hear first?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i have the one with the hair on the cover. it's pleasant and all, but a bit blah after a while.

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a bit blah before the disc is even over.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 8 August 2004 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link

She's no Julieta Venegas.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 8 August 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Listen to "Segundo"--best thing so far. Very nice stuff, though I may not know better. Keyboards highly influenced by Robert Wyatt, which is something you don't see every day.

It is maybe one or two songs too long, it's true.

nono, Sunday, 8 August 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

both segundo and tres cosas are excellent; I think I like tres cosas a little more than segundo.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 August 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

It's pointless music.

Lazza, Sunday, 8 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I know, it's all in fucking "spanish" or whatever too.

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 8 August 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Agree with Josh in Chicago. Julieta Venegas stomps all over Juana Molina.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 8 August 2004 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Josh in Chicago as well. Molina is no Venegas; in fact, the two have nothing to do with each other.

nono, Sunday, 8 August 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Molina's breathy folky melodies and synth beats are nice enough but not that unique. It depends how much you like that style. The one Venegas cd I have I like, although I read that her latest, Si, is more electropop than the one I have(I forgot the title)...

sk, Sunday, 8 August 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Si features electronic drums and some keyboard textures here and there, but it's way too primitivist to be called "electropop." It's still very definitely her.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 8 August 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Juana Molina is music for lovers of sunsets and sangria... or some shit.

King Pasa (scottkundla), Monday, 9 August 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

New Juana Molina album Un Dia: So. Good.

I know, right?, Saturday, 11 October 2008 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

cool! I love all three of the albums she's put out over the past few years.

akm, Saturday, 11 October 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

This one pushes the weirdness a little which is what I always wanted!

I know, right?, Saturday, 11 October 2008 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Amazon.com thinks it's reggae.

M.V., Saturday, 11 October 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The reaction to Segundo from four years ago is so completely off it's hilarious.

Un Dia is interesting -- much more varied instrumentation than her previous work, more production, poppier, and she's almost completely done away with lyrics. The result may be a little too Enya for my taste; only time will tell. But it does away with the pesky problem of people who can't understand Spanish not knowing what she was singing about. They still won't know, but they can be confident that it doesn't matter much.

At this point (after only a few days with Un Dia), I still believe that her previous CD, Son, is her masterpiece -- much more sophisticated and assured than Segundo, and oodles more interesting than Tres Cosas. Check out its centerpiece track, Micael, which is available on her MySpace page and in some live versions on YouTube. It's a stunner, and the live versions are really impressive at showing how she works.

Vornado, Monday, 27 October 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

A little too Enya!? Wtf are you talking about? Agreed about Michael and Son in general but this is really great and more ostentatiously weird and electronic.

I know, right?, Monday, 27 October 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

still thing Salvese Quien Pueda: Juana's Epic Re-Version (Edit) is the best thing she's ever done

I know, right?, Monday, 27 October 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Enya -- as in, lush, overdubbed, rhythmic, atmospheric, hooky soundscapes, with all vocals layered 10 times and reverbed to a farethewell. On Un Dia, Molina seems to think that if she's going to sing, it would be better if it sounded like there were five of her singing in an echo chamber. Not that I dislike it, but I like her actual, solo voice a lot, too, and I miss it on this one. I also liked her lyrics, so I miss something, too, when she sings the same three words over and over, and then breaks down the syllables into nonsense. Not that I would mind that sometimes, but it bothers me some all the time. But I'm being too negative. I like the album, just not as much as Son, yet. That's not faint praise. Son is one of my favorite album ofs this decade.

I, in turn, am a little wtf myself about your describing Un Dia as more ostentatiously weird and electronic. Until now, most of Molina's music in her actual adult, full-time-musician mode has been pretty strictly guitar + laptop, and sometimes just laptop. Two or three tracks had percussion, even. This record has all kinds of things that sound like actual instruments on it -- piano, drums, accordion, horns, bass -- and on almost every track. They may all be synthesized, but in the past her electronic music didn't ever sound like anything other than electronic music. Plus, in the past (and central to her ability to give credible live performances), almost everything was some kind of loop, albeit usually in different phases. There's lots on this record that couldn't be done with loops, you would have to have multiple musicians or backing tracks. Again, nothing wrong with that at all, but the effect (for me) is to sound much more mainstream and less weird/electronic than she ever did. Plus, it's all upbeat and poppy, and all fiver or ten of her are singing la-la-la instead of complaining about her mother or someone's dog. I would call this her bid at accessibility.

Vornado, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah well, I don't speak spanish so I never realised she was singing about her dog or whatever or even that she wasn't really singing lyrics on this one, so that whole element sailed directly over my head in fairness and actually relistening to both Son and Un Dia, you are actually completely correct. The thing I'm missing most now actually is the field recordings... Still I thing this has a pulsier richness that I'm really enjoying.

I know, right?, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:14 (fifteen years ago) link

So is she now,4 years later, getting more pop ala Julieta Venegas?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

did anybody see her with the "live band"? i saw her last year solo and it was soooo awesome and entertaining and mesmerizing...

kinda surprised there isn't more talk about here around here? (i didn't vote in the albums poll) but "un dia" was one of the best albums i heard all year... love ALL her albums (haven't heard "segundo") and they just seem to get better and better, if you ask me

winstonian (winston), Monday, 23 February 2009 08:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Unfornately I missed her show here in São Paulo in 2007. I thought 'Un Día' really deserved a spot on the 'best of 2008' lists. This record is dope (literally)!

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 23 February 2009 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Impressive cd. While most of her shows on her current US tour are with a band, she's doing a few solo ones, including Friday night at Iota outside DC

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 February 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i saw her the other night. it was stunning. she played keyboards and guitar and did a lot of looping interaction between the two. her bass player reminds me a bit of ben stiller

kamerad, Monday, 23 February 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

With or without beard?

M.V., Monday, 23 February 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

stubbly, not joaquinish

kamerad, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

saw her in san francisco a week an a half ago, great set. little goes a long way though, I thought it could have been shorter, because it gets samey; she did do a chunk in the middle without the band.

akm, Monday, 23 February 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

un dia is a great record!

Dominique, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link

agreed! and she's playing FREE in NYC two days from now
http://newyork.timeout.com/events/reggae-world-latin/292147/juana-molina-curumin-el-g
good deal

kamerad, Monday, 6 July 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

damn, i LOVE this

lol dope (Tape Store), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

"this" ? "Un Dia" ?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

folks have gotta see her live, it's magic

hobbes, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i love how the cover of "un dia" looks like the album sounds

hobbes, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I want her to propel even further into lunatic rhythmic propulsive territory. Like I love "Un Dia" but Un Dia could use a bit more gaboomph throughout. Still, very nice and thanks for reminding me through a revive - will have to dig this out (of the iTunes menu) and play it on the way to work tomorrow to put me in a good mood.

(Sunn 0))) on the way home from work today, so that tells you what kind of week it's been.)

a reprehensible gentility of trouser (staggerlee), Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i like son the best overall, i think. it has just the right amount of dynamics. part of what i find interesting about her sound is how.. well, gradually throughout her songs, things get chaotic and intense, but there are these moments that hit in a very sudden way. she has an interesting way of combining/interweaving tha drone w/refreshing bursts of energy without derailing the trance.

hobbes, Thursday, 27 May 2010 04:42 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i think i know exactly what u mean

plax (ico), Monday, 14 June 2010 12:05 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

New album out this fall!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/15855-juana-molina-eras/

This new track is great, even if it isn't much of a departure from her style on Un Día.

Remember! The cormorant is a big brrd. It has got a long neck. (unregistered), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I need to listen to that

curmudgeon, Friday, 25 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

It's the first thing she's done in years that has really chimed with me. Really enjoyed listening to that.

Doran, Friday, 25 October 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

I want her to propel even further into lunatic rhythmic propulsive territory. Like I love "Un Dia" but Un Dia could use a bit more gaboomph throughout.

this is exactly what Wed 21 does. the production is clearer, more bass-heavy, and less reverbed-out than Un Día, so the drums really cut through the mix, and her increasing use of a drum kit (as opposed to handclaps and improvised percussion, which sometimes faded into the background on her past records) makes a big difference. this is definitely her most layered, most meticulously produced album yet, but it's also her most ferocious — it's like her appearance on the Congotronics tribute album inspired her to record a whole album of rhythmic workouts in that vein.

despite the fact that she plays all the instruments on the record, the material sounds awesome with a live band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzzq5b0lSM8

(I wonder if she'll tour that way in the US)

when skrillex just stood there (unregistered), Monday, 20 January 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link

I just wonder what her recording process is like. does she loop and layer the instruments live in the studio and record everything in one take, or does she record the parts separately and do a ton of overdubs afterwards? I'm guessing it's the latter.

when skrillex just stood there (unregistered), Monday, 20 January 2014 02:29 (ten years ago) link

My lady friend hipped me to WED21 and it became one of my favorites of the year.

We are awaiting an American tour date close to our neck of the woods.

Austin, Monday, 20 January 2014 04:57 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

Wed 21 is amazing

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 March 2014 22:09 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

she is amazing. don't sit this tour out. totally mesmerizing

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 05:11 (ten years ago) link

Saw her in HK; very good, but after a few songs paja boludo

Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 06:12 (ten years ago) link

She's out in Virginia suburb of DC club tonight, but I can't make it

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 14:16 (ten years ago) link

"paja boludo" = "thatched asshole"? (google translate isn't being very helpful here)

I saw her in Cambridge on Monday and she was great! so I'll second what qualmsey said.

unregistered, Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link

I was pretty astounded by her show recently, definitely hypnotic and took me places at times

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 17 April 2014 04:15 (nine years ago) link

not sure what "paja boludo" means but i feel like seeing her live is the closest i'll ever get to watching damo suzuki front can. her witchy rhythmic sense is that inspired. love her vocals and how the songs constantly shapeshift. plus the drummer sorta looks like a young keith richards

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 April 2014 06:59 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

This is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he-eAyHRfFg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 June 2014 05:11 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

I am here for this

http://soundcloud.com/crammed-discs/juana-molina-cosoco-1

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

New LP on May 5th

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 March 2017 01:46 (seven years ago) link

ooo

schlump, Sunday, 5 March 2017 04:02 (seven years ago) link

yesssss

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 6 March 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

yay!

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 02:49 (seven years ago) link

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I like this. I bought Un Día, but I could never get into it, even though it seemed like something I should like. (Comparisons to Karuki Zamen Kuri No Hana, in some circles.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:42 (seven years ago) link

I kind of lost track after Tres Cosas (for no partic reason though, love those first three records, Segundo my fave). Am def on board for this one.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.npr.org/2017/04/27/525546136/first-listen-juana-molina-halo

New one is streaming. Subdued compared to her last album, but undeniably Juana Molina. The album art is horrendous, though.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 April 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

mellow for sure. simple album art is a cross between the opening allegory-of-tools/war->immortality' evolution sequence in kubrick's 2001 and russell banks' rule of the bone (after a long bong rip or two)

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Fascinating album, quite varied, lots of stuff to chew on. Quite easy to get into. The cover is ugly but the music is more than making up for it.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 5 May 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

The album cover makes me not want to listen to it. Still, when I have listened to it, it's just been okay. Cosoco was a good single, but it's not a good representation of what the album sounds like. Too snoozy. Maybe good for weed + headphones but that's not where I am these days.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 6 May 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

I think I like Sin Dones a lot

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

i feel like seeing her live is the closest i'll ever get to watching damo suzuki front can.
seriously?! this is a strong endorsement! i came to this thread to convince me to see/not see her show tonight and i think i got my answer! hyperbole or not :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link

I saw her like 10 years ago and it was awesome. You should go!!

brimstead, Saturday, 8 September 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

I did!! The Can comparison was actually quite useful -- her wordless vocal jams with the band really went there in a way that did remind me of some of my favorite Can jams. Enjoyed it immensely!! Really glad I went.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:02 (five years ago) link

she is great live

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Her new EP rocks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rSZ-t8e0o0

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgNRdjuUxUE

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 1 November 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link

good stuff, i quite liked halo but this seems something different.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

a concert she'd planned for tonight was cancelled due to coronavirus, so she's livestreaming it tonight -- pretty sick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNu1ievAbek

nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Saturday, 14 March 2020 00:56 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

North America tour happening in April and May

I lost touch with her music and just heard her punk "For Fun" ep tonight. Re her current tour she says:

during the lockdown i dove in some sort of contemplative state. time passed and there i was sitting outside by a fire pit in the garden, just thinking and looking at the sky. everything was so quiet and pristine. and so was i. it took me a long time to be able to play or do other things.

one day someone asked me if i wanted to play a live show via streaming and there was the reason to go back. it was like in the old times, when i was playing for hours improvising over and over on the same song. and then a question that have asked myself for years: why is that i never do this live? why being so structured and not get lost on stage like i do when i'm on my own at home. finally i decided to not die without doing it. and i did. and it was the best i could have done.

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/juana-molina-announces-spring-solo-tour/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 03:44 (two years ago) link

I also haven't heard her live in Mexico album from just before the pandemic in early 2020

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

Segundo album has been reissued and she did some live trio collaborations in Japan (I think) with Terry Riley and Jeff Mills.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

The Anrmal 2020 live in Mexico release has some punkier, noisier cuts .

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 March 2022 13:29 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Molina tells City Paper that previously, with her band, “the arrangements were fixed, and every night we played the same.” On this tour, Molina will “start a song as usual, and then [I] don’t know exactly how it’ll finish.”

Molina solo tour 2022
https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/554253/juana-molina-from-argentine-tv-star-to-experimental-folker/

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 April 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

Saw her solo DC gig last night. Pretty experimental. She uses her keyboard and pedals and loops and repeats her vocals or instrumental sounds and sometimes distorts her vocals. I liked the songs that were the most rhythmic and tuneful.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 April 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link

Killer set in Seattle last night. A tiny room & she had the audience captive every minute.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

I keep confusing Juana Molina and Javiera Mena, probably because I've only heard the latter

Nabozo, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:36 (one year ago) link

Something I wasn’t prepared for, and which definitely made the night better, is how funny she is.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Her comic actress roots are still there at times

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

I would love to see her, v jealous of you both

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

oh hey, i was there too, she was great!

JoeStork, Wednesday, 4 May 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvkdwcjl53g

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 September 2022 07:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLuarhVj4DM

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 08:26 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

RFI: Latina artist with similar number that was kind of an Other Music favorite for a hot minute. That’s all I got, sorry.

The Titus Andromedon Strain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 April 2023 00:33 (eleven months ago) link

Lucrecia Dalt?

Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:06 (eleven months ago) link


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