― Patrick, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Omar, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
I can't get worked up and annoyed about Bruce in the way I can about
some other rockers. He has an ear for a great line (the opening
of "Hungry Heart" for instance) and I can forgive him a lot for that.
He doesn't resonate with me and like the Replacements I think that's
a cultural thing.
I also - and this is totally subjective - never get the impression
Bruce ever thinks he's particularly cool. Which is not something I
can say of most other 'real rock'n'roller' types, mainstream or
― Tom, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
File under yet to be discovered. I was listening to an apologetic defence of his
work from Sean Rowley on the radio the other day, and it got me wondering
again. People of my generation's first real exposure to him was the 'Born in
the USA' air-punching era and that obviously wasn't likely to engender much
interest. Yes, I know it was all ironic.
What I have heard of his 70's stuff sounds like I might grow to love it. That
midwest blue-collar world his songs inhabit seems harder to relate to than
any other, but even in 1988, I had the feeling Paddy McAloon was missing the
point with the song 'Cars & Girls'.
At the moment, I'm afraid the song of his I like best is a 90s one - 'If I Should
Fall Behind', which I only know from the Grant McLellan cover version.
Badly Drawn Boy is a Springsteen obsessive, which I thought was quite cute.
― Nick, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― matthew stevens, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Simon, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
And yes, Tom, he's got a very good ear for a line.
― Ally, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
I heard the version of "Santa Claus Is Coming To Town" when I was
young and that is pretty spiff, I freely agree. Circa 1984, liking El
Bruce was unsurprising for me as that was a pretty damn good radio
year -- Chuck Eddy specifically called it as such in _Stairway to
Hell_, and he was goddamn right. Thus liking all that stuff he made
was a matter of course alongside all those singles from _Purple Rain_
and _Like A Virgin_ and etc.
Time went on and I proceeded to not care. I never cared enough to buy
an album anyway, and the 'classic early singles' only made sense in my
classic rock phase, which lasted about nine months in senior year.
Then I ended up in LA and encountered the first of Robert Hilburn's
345,234,843 printed sermons on How Bruce Springsteen Heals the Sick,
Raises the Dead and Means More to Human Existence Than the Combined
Efforts of Louis Pasteur, Billie Holiday and Charles Schulz. I
encountered other blowhards. The music touched me with the impact of
a dying flea. A roommate was obsessed with him to the point of near
mania. I cried.
Frankly, the Walkabouts any day of the goddamn week, month, year,
decade, century, etc. If the relative fame levels were reversed, I
would cling to this assumption with even more deep, abiding passion
because then I would have The People on my side. Even alone, though,
it's comfy. And Frankie Goes to Hollywood's version of "Born to Run"
is my fave.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Sterling Clover, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
i actually liked born_in_the_u.s.a when it came out at age 7, but
later, i found it to be an obstacle in getting to love bruce, and i'm
sure there are a ton of artists out there whose work at that time has
kept people away from them.
as sterling said, it's funny what driving a car can do, especially
when it's another dark and lonely night out on an empty anonymous new
jersey highway and "born to run" comes on the highway. but i've been there, so i'll move on.
you can get by on the first five or so albums on the music and
production alone -- unless of course you hate phil spector and are,
therefore, destined to spend eternity in hell -- and the later stuff
will stick if you find something in the lyrics that rings far too
true. sure, he mines the same territory in a lot of his songs, but so
do belle & sebastian and so did the smiths; except the kids in
bruce's songs could kick the ass of their counterparts in the
ned, i think you have the same problem as tom: it's a cultural
― fred from new jersey, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
It's not a cultural thing; I mean for god's sake Motorcycle Emptiness
might as well be Bruce Springsteen on a literacy trip in terms of
subject, and I know Tom likes the song, and I believe Ned does too.
Whether that particular statement was tongue in cheek or not, it's a
tired excuse and reasoning, one usually used by the saddest of Bruce
Springsteen fans, the ones who "identify" with his sentiments,
seemingly losing track of the fact that BRUCE'S CHARACTERS NEVER
ACTUALLY MAKE IT OUT. Some positive role models to rock out to.
The thing is, I think it's the voice and the earnestness, which was
already said. The stylistic values of it....the basic cultural and
escape sentiments, lyrically, of Motorcycle Emptiness and Born to Run
might be very similar in tone, but the style and vocalisings are
entirely, 100% different. Bruce has a very sarcastic bent, a very
dark bent, lyrically, but his style of music softens the blow and
sometimes people just don't like it.
And those people are wrong, incidentally :P
― Ally, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
Nebraska is half good but doesn't deserve the plaudits it gets as the
Springsteen album it's cool to like.
The rest is pretty much DUD.
― alex thomson, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
Nevermind that Born in the USA was my first record not meant to
be played on the Fisher Price record player (with the STEEL
Nevermind the fact that Born to Run is one of the best driving
albums ever when your top is down and it's summer and the
road between Ventura and home stretches out and empty at
night with no cops...
Nevermind he has out Dylan-ed Dylan
Nevermind that he can outrage The Man as he pushes the dark
side of life. (41 Shots)
Nevermind the line "The record company Rosie, JUST GAVE ME
A BIG ADVANCE!"
Nevermind the Live box set, reminding us just how powerful he
Nevermind Time and Newsweek
Nevermind The cover of Jersey Girl
Nevermind the MTV Unplugged set where he scrapped the entire
notion of an acoustic show and just plugged in and tore down
Nevermind everyone on this list who called him a dud.
― JM, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
well, Bruce isn't *that* bad! ;)
― Omar, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
La Bruce just collectively calls to my mind a stunted bastard vision of
music that presumes he was the sole carrier of the 'spirit of rock and
roll truth' that the Beatles and Stones 'started' in the sixties. A
CLAIM I HAVE ENCOUNTERED MORE THAN ONCE, though thankfully not here,
and happily never from the man's own lips either, at least to my
knowledge. Without that rhetoric I would just shrug and ignore him for
somebody more interesting, but with it, frankly, he becomes a very very
useful target to kick against. Perhaps only a straw man, but one I
wouldn't mind seeing go up in flames.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
The boy has fallen off of late, but... I'm reminded of the Bangs
article where he describes how he dismissed this Maoist band as
sounding like Bruce, and the band replied "oh, good, the working
class like that stuff" or something of the sort, and I'm reading this
thinking -- no. no. no. The correct answer is "oh, good. Bruce
What I appreciate about Bruce is how he can capture the majesty of a
major chord. How so many of his songs have the same progression, but
you don't realize it 'till you try to play 'em yourself. How he can
take gospel music and write it to a girl instead. And yes, more of
them damn anthems.
I mean.. I know that anthems aren't an alien concept to the
UK -- after all, The Who were full of them. But maybe British anthems
are a different type a "get off of my cloud" or "sod off" type, more
cynical and pissy than dreamy and wide-eyed. Maybe this is, after
all, because America is The Big Country, The Great Bitch, et cet.
Maybe to get America you have to get just how there's always
somewhere you might go, maybe.
Along these lines, "Not Fade Away" which is a novel by Jim Dodge is a
great rock road story, sort of like the lighter side of Richard
Hell's "Go Now" or the more earnest(?) side of Bruce
McCullough's "Doors Fan" sketch (on his album, Shame-Based
Man). Yes. Get that spirit of the open highway.
― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 25 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Michael Daddino, Sunday, 25 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Mark Richardson, Sunday, 25 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
I will say, though, that I do lack a car and have never had one. That
might serve as a better explanation. ;-)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Patrick, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
I wish I wasn't misinterpreting.
― Otis Wheeler, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
Inspirational in some ways. I have often felt that England needed a
Springsteen, albeit not just a a copycat 'rocker'; I mean, someone who
would write about all the lost and found small-town lives. But to be
fair, I suppose there is already a UK tradition here: the probably
Jarvis Cocker is a case in point.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 2 March 2001 01:00 (14 years ago) Permalink
― Michael Bourke, Sunday, 4 March 2001 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
1. they don't understand that he's actually not as "pro-america" as
they might think he is
2. they don't have as close a connection to "old school" code (which
includes "old school" rock)
3. they are mostly college kids on their way up to some office job or
whatever that is removed (if not far removed) from the "underworld"
(the "blue collar" or "real" world) to get the lyrical sentiments
4. well, and...sometimes people just don't like something 'cause they
just don't like it
I, however, do not apply to any of those 4. For I actually do "get"
some of the appeal of Bruce (albeit, it took my until my mid or late
twenties to get there). Sure, his overly sentimental (downright
broadway or maudlin) look at the working class can be a bit (or a
bunch) too much. And sure, his music can be too simple and/or too
derivitive. But, that's a part of the whole. Familiarity in both music
and lyrics, is a large part of the appeal of his stuff (and those like
him, ala Mellencamp, etc). He just had the concept to put nearly a
whole career on the working class/blue collar life like no other has
(not in such a wide reaching broad sense, at least - other than
Mellencamp, but Bruce did it a bit better and first).
Having said all that, 'Nebraska' and 'Ghost of Tom Joad' are the only
two full albums that I would declare anywhere near a "classic" state
of existence (with 'Nebraska' being the one clear-cut vote). Many of
the rest of his 70's and 80's albums have some good solid worthy
singles on them, but. I can't go so far as to get 'The River' (for
example) anywhere near a "classic" nod. That one, in particular, I
find to be overrated (though still having the wonderful track "Stolen
Car" and the title track deserving of 'Nebraska'-like attention).
― michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
Anyways, I forgot to mention to huge (to the point of shadowing)
element as to one of the why's (or why not's) of enjoy/appreciating
Bruce. Which is: DRIVING. Cars and driving is such a central and/or
reoccuring figure/subject in his work that...I can't believe I forgot
to touch upon that (only after reading some of the others posts, darn
it). But yea, I do LOVE to drive. Which also helps to explain the
appeal of Springsteen (to me, at least).
*By the way, I do own that McCulloch album 'Shame Based Man'
and...love it (some really funny stuff and one of the very rare
comedy albums worthy of many plays - if not it's own discussion here
on "I Love Music"...anyone?). Every single one of my girlfriends (one
present, others past) hated it. "And if (after torching the stolen
car) you can still hear the Doors playing...then you have become...a
DOORS...FAN!" I'm not a Doors fan, however.
― michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
― the pinefox, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
I hadn't listened to this record in a couple of years, but god, it
still sounded great. Actually, I kept getting shivers down my spine
when it was playing and it had me close to tears a few times (mostly
on "Thunder Road" and "Backstreets.") Listening to this today finally
settled an ILM debate for me: Music can never affect me quite as much
now as it did when I was a teenager. No record I've heard in the last
few years, including Loveless, has had as much affect on me as
Born to Run did this morning, and I know it's not just
because Born to Run is such a great album. This is a record
that got to me when I was young and emotionally vulnerable in a way
that I'm not anymore, at the age of 32. I still feel music very
deeply and appreciate and enjoy a wider range of music than ever, but
music doesn’t completely overpower me the way it did when I was 15.
Springsteen is still a big classic, by the way, despite all the
incredibly corny lines on Born to Run.
― Mark, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
― DeRayMi, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (13 years ago) Permalink
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:18 (12 years ago) Permalink
"candy's room" is the grebtest song ever written about being in love w. a prostitute when you sound a bit like david bowie
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:22 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:25 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:29 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:31 (12 years ago) Permalink
Is this a new genre? Cos that'd be fucking incredible.
I still love Bruce Springsteen. Put on Rosalita and you will see me go insane.
― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:01 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:23 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:24 (12 years ago) Permalink
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:24 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:34 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:39 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 05:21 (12 years ago) Permalink
― alext (alext), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 11:58 (12 years ago) Permalink
Books he has been reading
Who is your favorite novelist of all time, and your favorite novelist writing today?
I like the Russians, the Chekhov short stories, Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky. I never read any of them until the past four years, and found them to be thoroughly psychologically modern. Personal favorites: “The Brothers Karamazov” and, of course, “Anna Karenina.”
Current favorites: Philip Roth, Cormac McCarthy and Richard Ford. It’s hard to beat “American Pastoral,” “I Married a Communist” and “Sabbath’s Theater.” Cormac McCarthy’s “Blood Meridian” remains a watermark in my reading. It’s the combination of Faulkner and Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns that gives the book its spark for me. I love the way Richard Ford writes about New Jersey. “The Sportswriter,” “Independence Day” and “The Lay of the Land” are all set on my stomping grounds and, besides being poignant and hilarious, nail the Jersey Shore perfectly.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
He has done a lot of book reading since the age of 29
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 1 November 2014 17:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
it'd be cool to be bruce springsteen and rich and have a lot of time to catch up on great novels you've missed
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, he's such a rich slacker, isn't he? Just sitting home year 'round, counting his money.
― the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
on Friday i turned on my local classic rock station and they were celebrating 'Springsteen Halloween' and playing nothing but Bruce the entire day. they were playing a lot of cuts not usually played on the radio much, it was fun, although i can't imagine any other stations are doing it.
― some dude, Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
Don't forget the cross-country motorcycle trips that Springsteen regularly does
― DDD, Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think this "springsteen halloween" sounds made up
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 3 November 2014 00:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
Got a wife and kids in Baltimore, Jack / I went out for a ride and I never went back Baltimore Halloween, Baltimore classic rock radio Halloween
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 14:08 (3 months ago) Permalink
x-post--Didn't critic Dave Marsh start giving Bruce books?...
I skipped most of college, becoming a road musician, so I didn’t begin reading seriously until 28 or 29. Then it was Flannery O’Connor; James M. Cain; John Cheever; Sherwood Anderson; and Jim Thompson, the great noir writer. These authors contributed greatly to the turn my music took around 1978-82. They brought out a sense of geography and the dark strain in my writing, broadened my horizons about what might be accomplished with a pop song and are still the cornerstone literally for what I try to accomplish today.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 14:11 (3 months ago) Permalink
If Fred Goodman is to be believed, Jon Landau taught Bruce the alphabet, while Marsh propped Bruce's eyeballs open Clockwork Orange-style forcing him to watch John Ford films.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 3 November 2014 14:29 (3 months ago) Permalink
Screen door slamsMary's dressed weirdLike a vision she dances across the lawnWearing Mr. Spock ears
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 3 November 2014 14:52 (3 months ago) Permalink
The Marsh books also mention Jon Landau passing books onto Springsteen in the Darkness era, I think.
― cpl593H, Monday, 3 November 2014 15:32 (3 months ago) Permalink
yeah i think jon landau sort of self-consciously decided to turn springsteen into an "organic intellectual"
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:08 (3 months ago) Permalink
And now he has a book out himself
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:28 (3 months ago) Permalink
disappointed that Mo Rivera is the baseball reading he cites
― things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
Had no idea Keith Richards was also in the burgeoning business of children's books.
― cpl593H, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:38 (3 months ago) Permalink
Bruce's buddy Joe beat him to the punch by 3 years:
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:43 (3 months ago) Permalink
My friend Sarah wrote this and it's wonderful: http://consequenceofsound.net/aux-out/how-bruce-springsteen-helped-me-face-my-childhood-bullies/
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 21:25 (3 months ago) Permalink
Springsteen started off the annual Stand Up For Heroes event by playing an acoustic set, then offering the instrument to the highest bidder.When bidding reached $60,000, he threw in a guitar lesson, which someone offered $250,000 for. At this point, he offered up a lasagne dinner at his house, a ride around the block in the sidecar of his motorbike and the shirt off of his back.Bidding reached $300,000 between two clearly die-hard fans, who agreed to both pay the agreed amount and split the prize in two. Let’s hope that lasagne is home-made.The event raised more than $1 million, with Springsteen's packages making up over half of the contributions.
When bidding reached $60,000, he threw in a guitar lesson, which someone offered $250,000 for. At this point, he offered up a lasagne dinner at his house, a ride around the block in the sidecar of his motorbike and the shirt off of his back.
Bidding reached $300,000 between two clearly die-hard fans, who agreed to both pay the agreed amount and split the prize in two. Let’s hope that lasagne is home-made.
The event raised more than $1 million, with Springsteen's packages making up over half of the contributions.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 21:35 (3 months ago) Permalink
good old bruce, always looking out for the ordinary joe with 150k to spend on a sidecar ride and half a plate of pasta
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:47 (3 months ago) Permalink
yep, what a totes fraud getting that much money from rich superfans, and for a meaningful charity no less
― ichabron crames (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
He's a total shitheel, obv
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 November 2014 21:55 (3 months ago) Permalink
got a wife and kids in baltimore, jack / i went out for a ride and . . . wait, who called me a hack?
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 7 November 2014 21:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
Remasters are out now. "The River" sounds great. Biggest boost seems to be the clarity of the horns and Danny's organ playing, but there are all sorts of things I'm noticing - backing vocals, extra guitars. It almost sounds remixed, tbh. Definitely pretty different. FWIW, the little I've listened to the new "Nebraska," despite its lo-fi austerity, has been revelatory as well. Apparently even the recently remastered "Born to Run" and "Darkness' have been re-remastered as well.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 14:35 (3 months ago) Permalink
Actually, the bass on "The River" - like, there is bass playing - is pretty revelatory at times, too. "Crush On You," of all things, sounds great.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 14:39 (3 months ago) Permalink
I didn't properly appreciate Tallent until I watched that Houston show on the Darkness box. Really amazing player, as essential to the E Street dynamic as Max.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 15:21 (3 months ago) Permalink
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, November 7, 2014 4:58 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I got very confused for a sec because a "hack" is what they call a gypsy cab in Baltimore
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 16:53 (3 months ago) Permalink
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
Holy crap, "BitUSA" got a bottom end!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
And now there are some spooky synths or vox (I can't quite tell) at the end of "My Hometown" that I have never noticed before.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:10 (3 months ago) Permalink
Just officially released the 1978 Cleveland Agora show, a classic, one of his best shows of all time: http://live.brucespringsteen.net/live-music/0,11757/Bruce-Springsteen---The-E-Street-Band-mp3-flac-download-8-9-1978-Agora-Theatre-and-Ballroom-Cleveland-OH.html
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 December 2014 01:21 (2 months ago) Permalink
Winterland Night is also officially available now and would surely be the one to go for if you only need one '78 show.
There are also these two, which look unofficial to me but are being sold on Amazon so maybe they are kind of semi-official?
This one also from '78:
and this weird mishmash of live and radio recordings:
― you've got no fans you've got no ground (anagram), Sunday, 4 January 2015 10:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
I've long had a bootleg of that Agora show and it is terrific. My understanding is that these are the original source tapes and have been really cleaned up, so I may need to grab the official anyway.
― Οὖτις Δαυ & τηε Κνιγητσ (Phil D.), Sunday, 4 January 2015 13:38 (1 month ago) Permalink
Winterland my all time fave.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 January 2015 15:39 (1 month ago) Permalink
way to go, Bruce, for first and letting the bootleg circulate for decades, then finally release it when no one pays for music anymore.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 January 2015 15:40 (1 month ago) Permalink
Wow, had never seen this live page before.
― bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Sunday, 4 January 2015 15:54 (1 month ago) Permalink
Agora show RULES
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 January 2015 17:54 (1 month ago) Permalink
Looks pretty good.
― Dedlock Holiday (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:04 (1 month ago) Permalink
it's a real rowdy fun show
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 January 2015 19:31 (1 month ago) Permalink
xpost Winterland is not legit released yet, don't know where you saw that. Agora/Cleveland is the only '78 show he's selling right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:47 (1 month ago) Permalink
oh man that agora show is unbelievable and I'm not even the world's hugest springsteen dude.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 21:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
Winterland is not legit released yet, don't know where you saw that
Oh yeah you're right, I was looking at this and assumed it was official as it is being sold on Amazon but on closer inspection it is a bootleg:
Since when did Amazon start dealing in bootlegs, by the way? Or is this some kind of grey area thing like the two I linked above?
― you've got no fans you've got no ground (anagram), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 22:06 (1 month ago) Permalink
I will say, regardless, that anyone who has never heard the Cleveland show will be absolutely agast and baffled that it was never released in any form before now.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:45 (1 month ago) Permalink
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:46 (1 month ago) Permalink
yeah it is maybe the only springsteen anyone needs! ok, maybe not... don't attack me springsteen stans! bootlegs are always popping up on amazon these days, which does seem weird -- not sure if it has to do w/ copyright loopholes. or it's just illegal!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:48 (1 month ago) Permalink
I think the loophole is that it's a radio broadcast. So, technically/theoretically, whoever owns the broadcast recording (like the radio station) can maybe-not-entirely-illegally release it, or at least license it for release (in Europe, at least).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:52 (1 month ago) Permalink
tyler otm imo, it's pretty definitive
like if you only have one, this is the one to have
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:53 (1 month ago) Permalink
though it is also crazy that the agora show was the *norm* for 1978 (at least the recordings I've heard suggest this). dude was operating on a whole other level.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 23:57 (1 month ago) Permalink
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 00:02 (1 month ago) Permalink
Yeah, I don't think there is a single Springsteen show up through the breakup of the E Street Band that could be considered less than great, actually. He was famously grouchy during his I think No Nukes festival set, but it's a killer set, still, and I can't think of any of date he's ever played sick or less than 110%. The Tunnel of Love tour was a pretty set setlist, for once, but those shows were also great. Even post reunion there have been no real stinkers. He's a force of nature, really.
Hope they release Winterland, and Roxy. At least as far as 1978 goes. River and BitUSA, the band is still strong, but 78 is his peak. It's no small wonder that he just managed to stretch that peak for 10 more years of touring.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 02:37 (1 month ago) Permalink