The least worst of Nu-Metal

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I know, 99% of Nu-metal is pure crap. But there is a whole 1% that it is not that bad.

Help me make a 3 cd compilation.

Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

'Blind' - Korn
'Crawlin' - Linkin park
'Rollin' - Limp Bizkit

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link

system of a down's cover of 'shame on a nigga'

jake b. (cerybut), Friday, 30 July 2004 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Slipknot - "wait and bleed" or "spit it out" were their best moments, I reckon, mostly for the dog barking noises and bizarre percussion.

System of a Down - "Chop suey" or whatever it was called. The good one.

The motion man remix of Linkin Park "in the end" that was on their remix album.

Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah! I forgot SOD, totally unjustly. Best Nu-metal band ever.

Wooden (Wooden), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link

system of a down's cover of 'shame on a nigga'
this really exists? wow, i need that.

System of a Down and Tool(if they count) are the best IMO.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

'Rollin' - Limp Bizkit
-- Wooden

Fantastic song. So good it hardly deserves to be tainted with the term 'Nu Metal'.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

As much as i think they're dreadfully silly, "Dig" by Mudvayne.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

System of a Down is great. It is the only nu metal band i have an album. I am listening toxicity right now.

But I need more. The plan is a 3 cds compilation.

I found a page in internet that suggests that the following bands are good:

Disturbed
Soil
Saliva
Mudvayne
Deftones
Dry Kill Logic
Chimera
36 Crazyfists
5 pointe 0
Static X
Sevendust
American Head Charge
Ill nino
Spineshank
Machine Head
Agresion
Adema
Slipknot
Stonesour
Kittie

I don't know any of these bands...

Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Disturbed

Good lord no!

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link

"butterfly" is a truly great record (if it counts)

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:19 (nineteen years ago) link

normally i try to stick up for genres or artists that are routinely shat upon by discerning types, but almost all of those bands are fucking awful.

jess, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:21 (nineteen years ago) link

"butterfly" is a truly great record (if it counts)

By Crazy Town? Man, you're so wrong on that point you should be locked up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"Disturbed
Good lord no!

-- David Allen (Davidalle...), July 30th, 2004."

Disturbed may suck. I don't really know. I just need one goog song from them.


Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

that Deftones song "Shut up and drive (Far Away)" is pretty good.
kinda MBV-ish guitar sound.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"Minerva" by the Deftones isn't entirely terrible.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Would AMEN count as Nu Metal? They have their moments.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah Alex otm that one's alright too. I have both of the CDs those songs come from, and they're a little boring on the whole, but "Minerva" and "Shut Up and drive" are the two best songs between them.
x-post

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, Alex. In fact, I don't know. But i trust in you.

Elvis is Dead, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Deftones.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OTEP!!!!!!!!!!

and System of a Down, and a few Deftones songs.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 01:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"butterfly" (which i think of as more of a hip-hop record than nu-metal really)

(1) is funny
(2) has cool woosh noises
(3) has filled the dancefloor every time i've played it

deftones are fucking horrible

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'll second "Wait and Bleed" and System of a Down and will nominate Korn's "Freak on a Leash." You gotta love that faux-DJ Muggs bassline.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

the best thing about butterfly is the guitar line. That makes the song bearable but only just

hector (hector), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

linkin park is consistently superb
evanescence's first single was good
i am reevaluating "rollin" but have always found the music too boring for the ott clowning in the verses to amuse

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Jess very much OTM here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I've always liked Soulfly, and their new one is surprisingly solid. Killswitch Engage is pretty good, too.

I can't stand that new Otep album.

abegrand, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I heart the Deftones.

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

Simon H., Friday, 30 July 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

linkin park is consistently superb

...if you're deaf.

Linkin Park: Defend them. I dare you.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Any nu-metal other than them and SOAD is pretty much worthless.

And I agree with this too! But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

SOAD have a couple of good songs, Linkin Park too. Papa Roach are going to age well as a silly retro artifact.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

to artiste: saying Crazy Town>Deftones = *raspberry*

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal. They sound more like Lamb of God, and Lamb of God is PURE AMERICAN METAL the way GOD intended!!!

what don't you like the new Otep? I haven't checked it out yet - it's been on a pile of stuff I haven't gotten to for a few days. The last one - especially "Blood Pigs" - was pretty great. Plus, Wifey and I really wanna have a threesome with her.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i've actually never heard any other crazy town songs i don't think!!

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

but i bet they are better than the deftones

artiste, Friday, 30 July 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

If you pretend that Mad Capsule Markets are a nu-metal band then they would be the best nu-metal band.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 July 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely Tool don't count as nu, neither Soulfly - as they're so connected to Sepultura in my mind.

Can't say i like any of these, except maybe SOAD's Chop Suey coz at least they sounded like they were doing something different, & maybe the odd Deftones track.

piers, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I like disturbed's "The Sickness".

fk, Friday, 30 July 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Duality" - Slipknot
"Toxicity" - System of a Down
"My Own Summer (Shove It)" - The Deftones (if it counts)
"Bring Me to Life" - Evanescense
"Faint" - Linkin Park
"Just Like You" - Three Days Grace
"Got the Life" - KoRn

Those are all pretty good, some even great.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Lostprophets "Last Train Home"!!!!!!!!

Al (sitcom), Friday, 30 July 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

lostprophets are like emu-metal

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 30 July 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"Butterfly"'s one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Deftones/Slipknot have their moments, can't remember what they are tho.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

some earlier Korn stuff.
System of a Down, definately.
Slipknot.
Mushroomhead.
Otep.
early limp bizkit stuff.

yeah, who cares.

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Friday, 30 July 2004 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link

abegrand - Killswitch Engage is totally not nu-metal.

what don't you like the new Otep?

Yeah, you're right about Killswitch.

The new Otep sounds great, but it just grates after 40 minutes, it's an emptyheaded Slipknot clone, with none of the melodies. Otep claims to be a big poet, but all it amounts to is adolescent whining, and badly done at that. Hearing, "I hate my life!" over and over just gets tiring after a while. A tale of sound and fury, etc. etc. etc.

("Warhead" is an okay tune, though)

abegrand, Friday, 30 July 2004 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link

well put. But that's what makes her cuddly, I think. "I use my fists to empower my hate!" - I wanna give her a big kiss on the cheek. Probably not the reaction she's looking for, but...

Seriously, though, "Blood Pigs" knocked me out. I was a little disappointed with all the 'rapping' on their last record - is there less this time? (I should just go listen to the damn thing!)

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 30 July 2004 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a good band trapped inside of Linkin Park that will never, ever get out.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

...and I think that that's a shame.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

does the rasmus "in the shadows" count? single of the year, no less.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 30 July 2004 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"But I also think Linkin Park are a not-bad pop band."

Yeah, it's probably better to appreciate them as "pop" rather than as a hard rock band.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Stonesour rate a mention surely? They're pretty good, though I couldn't name one of their songs.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 30 July 2004 10:37 (nineteen years ago) link

...trying to TAKE a difficult shit..., I meant.

chuck, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Saliva album isn't horrible. They're apparently trying to sound like '70s or '80s hard rock now, definitely a commendable idea, though the singer doesn't quite have a good enough voice to pull it off--usually he still reminds me more of fred durst than of joe elliot or mark farner or whoever. but at least he's TRYING....

chuck, Monday, 2 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Saliva were kinda like that before though too. Working the 70's thing, i mean.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 2 August 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Disturbed are terrible. I remember "Stupify" being good but as I haven't heard it since middle school I'm not trusting myself on that one.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(Bill: The Rasmus are probably one of the ten biggest bands in the world at the moment, but they don't seem too bothered about cracking the US yet).

The world? You mean they've broken beyond Europe?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The new God Lives Underwater album is Anthony Miccio's new favorite album. Maybe.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Well I'm intrigued

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link

ah, God Lives Underwater. Notable for two things: that video where the kid spends four minutes eating things in reverse, and doing the soundtrack to some video game.

"All Wrong" was pretty good too.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Part of Street Signs by
Ozomatli could be nu-
metal, and is great.

I once interviewed
Kittie's drummer, she was cool.
So I vote for them.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

When the song first came out I repeatedly played the Taz-devil break from "Freak On A Leash" on the air for about 2 solid minutes.

ummmdaktaummmdaktaEEBA ummdaktaummmdaktaEEBA!

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

GO!

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"Disturbed are terrible. I remember "Stupify" being good but as I haven't heard it since middle school I'm not trusting myself on that one."

And I'm pretty sure that's the song I was talking about. ("I GET STUPIFIYYED! I GET STUPIFIYYED!) I don't have the cojones to download it.

Sansai, Tuesday, 3 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

And Hoobstank are post grunge, not nu metal, duh.

Its odd how "macho" has morphed and transmutated

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Post-grunge stopped existing with Semisonic and Fastball. It is no longer a viable genre.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's your inherent barrier: The crucial qualification for being nu-metal is that the band must totally suck. So any decent fence-sitting band that you might argue as nu-metal -- Static-X, System of a Down, etc. -- automatically does not qualify.

However, ignoring my argument entirely, I would never call Static-X nu-metal (unless you call Rob Zombie or Ministry or Prong nu-metal, which seems ridiculous). System of a Down is not nu-metal, either.

I would end this nutty little nu-metal compilation idea and throw yourself together a 3-CD Children of Bodom fest. You'll be much happier and healthier.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

racist.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

You caught me. OK, I actually sort of like "The Sickness" by Disturbed ... if I'm drunk and sing along with that "Oooo-wa-ka-ka-ka!" part. But I once tried to review them in concert and walked out during the second song.

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

cky has a few good songs, i've upped them on some of the other nu-metal songs.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

cky has a few good songs, i've upped them on some of the other nu-metal threads (edit).

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

hell yes mr deeds!
that song is the perfect comedy.

emma cleveland (emma cleveland), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, CKY has some great songs. Their guitar tones are too clean and mid-rangy though IMHO to be %100 nu-metal (a defining characteristic of which are those ridiculously over-compressed MesaBoogie-amped-up tuned-down 7-string guitar passages that sorta wash every other instrument right out), but otherwise structurally they fit the bill.

There's this one pretty great Mudvayne song with this awesome 3-part vocal breakdown and this totally Yes-esque (Yesque?) weird structural shit going on. A lot of their shit does that, they're kinda nu-prog, honestly.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Mudvayne are total prog. Half their second album is brilliant. The other half attempts to graft melodic choruses onto the prog-ness, always resulting in host-body rejection.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, I forgot about the "Oooo-wa-ka-ka-ka!" part. Never mind, maybe they're not completely worthless.

Anyway, Rob Zombie and Ministry are both a whole lot more industrial than Static-X (or "Push It" at least, the only song of theirs I know).

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Rob Zombie + Ministry = Static x

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

If I had to use Orgy, I would have picked "Stitches".

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a sucker for the New Order cover--I actually think they did an excellent job. Made for the centerpiece of a New Order cover mix I made once.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Urggggh. Orgy plays in my city in a few weeks. The promoter was lamenting it today, because the show has sold 32 tickets!
Ha!

I dunno about saying that Static-X isn't industrial, Good Dr. Static-X's "Wisconsin Death Trip" (or whatever it's called) encompasses a lot of industrial elements. Rob Zombie is more industrial just because he samples a B-movie 20 times per song? Frankly, Rob Zombie has gone downhill, now that I think about it. That's too bad. Viva "La Sexorcista"!

Mr Deeds (Mr Deeds), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Back to School - Deftones

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

The "self-righteous suicide" and "dis-oooord-der" ones by System of a Down are great...

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny. Seems to mark the era better than any other song....It's epic hissy fit mosh rock.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Ned likes Linkin Park because they've got tons and tons of Depeche Mode in them! (which is why I like them too)

Dan Perry as well.

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

minerva is definitely the best nu-metal track.

purple patch (electricsound), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

What?! Not by humans! You must be like a half-mage alien elf or some shit, Ned!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Break Stuff by Limp Bizkit is pretty hard to deny.

And yet it can be done.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 3rd, 2004.

It's about the he said/she said bullshit.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I found this cool list of past Ozzfest line-ups in the U.S. Here are a few of the bands that have played over the years:

Cellophane
Slo Burn
downset
Drain sth
Snot
Kilgore
Ultraspank
Monster Voodoo Machine
Flashpoint
Pushmonkey
Apartment 26
Taproot
Slaves On Dope
Shuvel
Primer 55
Deadlights
Union Underground
Systematic
Godhead
Nonpoint
Spineshank
No One
Pressure 4-5
Pure Rubbish
Beautiful Creatures
Soil
Flaw
3rd Strike
Pulse Ultra
Glassjaw
Switched
Grade 8
Twisted Method
Unloco
Depswa
Motograter
Memento


YIKES!!! I think I've only heard Spineshank and Drain sth on that list. And I think I got an Apartment 26 album in the mail once, but I don't remember if I even listened to it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

This year's line-up is the best since the first year though. But, boy oh boy, they had 5 years in the nu-metal wilderness.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Does "Mash Out Posse" count as nu-metal?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Taproot, my lord theres a blast from the past.

Glassjaw were always good in at the drive in overly agitated kinda way and noone can deny the pure rawk (!) fury that is Soils "Halo".

Damian McCoy (dmc), Thursday, 23 September 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I can;t believe no one mentioned "My December" by Linkin Park! such a great ballad for teenagers

P26091983, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link

>Beautiful Creatures<

Great band, led by Joe Leste', ex of Bang Tango, I totally recommend both albums. Velvet Revolver wish they were half this good. But this ain't nu-metal

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Also they do very good ballads for teenagers.

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

good morning, chuck!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

guten morgen to you too scott!!!! it is the last morning of the year and I am drinking coffee and i just cleaned the bathroom and took out the bottle recylcables! soon i will pay bills!!

xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

that sounds exciting! i am watching the 2 boys. maria is asleep.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 31 December 2005 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Korn and Limp Bizkit have both done some half decent cover versions.

And that's about it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 1 January 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

new crazy town is ... a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHqNJxfMBF8

maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

i couldn't find a crazy town thread so i figured i'd resurrect this one

maura, Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

finally a nu-metal thread I haven't posted in yet

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

If we're talking about the least worst of nu metal again, I was always partial to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJC5WWPCtGY

"Say something for the record - tell the people what you feel"

"Fuck the record... and fuck the people"

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Monday, 22 December 2014 11:40 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

i have 'diary of jane' by breaking benjamin stuck in my head today after hearing it on the radio recently and i kinda dig it, though it might just be stockholm syndrome. it's almost like...bubblegum nu-metal? idk

ciderpress, Thursday, 29 January 2015 16:11 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

decided to listen to some samples of bands listed upthread that I never listened to after seeing a band that sounded like Korn shitting in Mushroomhead's mouth last night, followed by a pure Soulfly clone so ridiculous that they even have "fly" in their name!

Snot = percussive and funky, not ear grating. wouldn't voluntarily listen, but not bad
Kilgore = Godsmack trying to do doom, pass
Ultraspank = zzzzzZZZzzzzZZZzz
Primer 55 = Guy Fieri rapping over shitty g-funk 'metal'

ok back to thrash it is

Neanderthal, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link


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