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i dont think there has been a thread on oliveros, or the deep listening band, and i'm not entirely sure what i want to ask either, so, for the moment, why don't we leave it at you, telling me, what you think of pauline oliveros. i'd like to hear abuot that stuff that was in a big well too

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

'no mo' is a CD of her electronic pieces from '66/'67.

Gonna have to get round some of her 'deep listening' stuff someday. Can anyone tell me what's the distinction between that and ambient as defined by eno et al (if any)?

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

she is having a deep listening retreat next week.

she sat next to me at a TFUL282 show about 6 years ago.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

i've only heard "Beautiful Soop" and one deep listening band track but they are both superb.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

She played in the one of the original performances of In C.

She's a total hippy as far as avant-garde composers are concerned.

While she's mostly known for the more meditative deep listening related pieces, she's composed some really cool more intense/rhythmic/minimalist type stuff, like on The Wanderer LP on Lovely Music, which is scored for an accordian marching band/symphony or something and rocks thoroughly.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

im playing the lp with dempster and panaiotis at the moment, and its tremendously exciting. lysergic and empty, it makes me feel like i can go and do anything right now

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 25 June 2004 21:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

I got to participate in what I guess was a deep listening piece at UC San Diego once. It was fun. Everyone laid on the floor with eyes closed and we were supposed to make vocal sounds imitating other sounds that we heard.

― Tim Ellison, Friday, 25 June 2004 22:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

Pauline came to oberlin in 96 or so(a year before she came on staff as a composition professor for a bit) and did the same thing. It was an extended excersize where you're supposed to breathe deep and sing a tone, then try to match a tone someone else was singing then try to sing a tone nobody else was singing. It ends...when it ends. At Oberlin it took 40 minutes and there were other parts as well, some very interesting rituals of sorts. Recently she did the same thing at Town Hall for the Kitchen benefit(there's a thread about that, w/ Glass, Reich, Ashley, Monk and Anderson) and it lasted 10 minutes. I didn't think it would work there but it was pretty amazing.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 25 June 2004 22:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Julio, I thought Eno's ambient music was music that you didn't necessarily have to listen to at all (a la Satie: "Can't you talk?!"). I think deep listening would kind of be the opposite in intention, even if it sounds similar.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 26 June 2004 00:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

(Maybe that was during an intermission though. I forget my Cage stories now.)

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 26 June 2004 00:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Satie Musique d'ameublement performance WAS a group playing during an intermission of...a play, I think.

― Tim Ellison, Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

Thanks.

― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

Alien Bog / Beautiful Soop is pretty great. That Deep Listening stuff creeps me out a bit tho

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 26 June 2004 05:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

of all the pretension pioneers of the American avant-garde, she's probably the least stuffy. her performances/ workshops are the most engaging. (i'm comparing her primarily with Glass and Reich)

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 26 June 2004 19:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

The Minexcio Connection collaboration with Reynols is good stuff, says me.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Saturday, 26 June 2004 20:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

pauline oliveros = YODA obv

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

i meant 'pretentious' rather than 'pretension'

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 26 June 2004 23:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

gareth: that one with Dempster and Panaiotis is the first Deep Listening Band record, so stay on course with them: my favorite DLB record is 'Non Stop Flight', a live concert with an expanded band of Mills students; the first 25 minutes wanders a bit but locks in on track 6 with an extended 50 minute acoustic expanding drone, a real good one.

The one that's most like the first is 'Ready Made Boomerang', same lineup, same 45-second water cistern reverb. That lineup also recorded 'Troglodyte's Delight' in a cave filled with waterdrops dripping into deep pools, and the way the acoustic instruments rise out of the sounds & gradually go electronic is definitely worth hearing.

Her solo recordings can be roughly grouped into two: the 60's electronic tape-music improvisations, and the later works for solo microtonal accordion.

The tape music pieces range from huge slabs of drone to wild oscillator freak-outs, all manipulated with multiple tape delay & decay systems running in parallel, to build & layer her sounds in real time. I'd start with 'Electronic Works' on Paradigm: 'I of IV', 'Big Mother Is Watching You' & 'Bye Bye Butterfly'. I also like 'Alien Bog / Beautiful Soop', more diffuse. I never got into 'No Mo' as much as the previous two, not that it's bad music.

Recent stuff replaces the oscillators with her specially designed microtonal accordion stuff, which she plays into a range of digital delays, recently Max/MSP. The accordion produces flurries, air sounds, and bizarre sustained drones. Microtonal music can be an acquired taste, these are not soothing drones, they are drones that wake you up.

My favorite record of hers is 'Roots of the Moment'. Solo accordion, live recording. Moves through the flurries to some queasy landscapes to finally arrive in the last twenty minutes at an incredible mammoth chord that's simultaneously rock solid and skittering all over the place. Not pretty like Palestine's 'Strumming Music' but if you like La Monte Young or 'Four Violins' you need this record.

― (Jon L), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

>Not pretty

I mean 'pretty' here in the light sense; 'Roots of the Moment' is an incredibly beautiful piece of music.

One more reference point for it's conclusion is James Tenney's 'Critical Band'.

― (Jon L), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

I love you Milton.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

I feel like I should apologize

& one last recommendation if you like 'Deep Listening': seek out Stuart Dempster's 'Underground Overlays From The Cistern Chapel', where he returns to the water cistern with 9 other trombone students following his lead, mirroring his notes. From the 'Deep Listening' record you can pretty much imagine what this one sounds like.

― (Jon L), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

listening right now to electronic works on the paradigm label. its really great. ill have to try out some of the deep listening stuff...

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have a Deep Listening album - I've listened to it once and not very deeply I'm ashamed to admit

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

... it's called "Suspended Music"

― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

i've seen Pauline perform once or twice (amazing) and took a deep listening workshop with her (just for a night, but REALLY amazing), but i find listening to her records a bit of a bore in most cases

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

>"Suspended Music"

with Ellen Fullman. Not too big on that one as an album, though it sounds like it could have been a great concert. Ken's right, her music often loses a great deal in recorded form.

can't lose with these though:
Oliveros / Dempster / Panaiotis - Deep Listening
Deep Listening Band - Non Stop Flight
Oliveros - Roots of the Moment
Oliveros - Electronic Works

― (Jon L), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

...is a very nice lady

― Russ (Russ), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

She is! And brilliant and profoundly influential on my own thinking about music and playing and writing. I recently played "Six for New Time" with some other Yorkies. It was a great experience to work on that. Challenging and fun and it really forces you to listen carefully. The score is wonderful - a model of how to create an attractive and inviting open graphic score that still clearly explains everything the performer needs to do in simple language and concise form. Strikes just the right balance between leaving you room to play something different and give the piece variety and actually providing you with guidelines and a compositional structure you can work in.

Her ideas about breaking down performer/composer/listener boundaries, about deep listening, about interaction between performers, about music as therapeutic process are all things I've found really valuable.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i should take that back... it's not a 'bore' per se... it's just that her compositions are SO site-specific and make use of such complex sound systems (the octophonic system she used in detroit just destroyed me in the best way possible) that listening to a 2-channel CD recording of them does the performances a complete and total disservice

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 20:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

http://www.deeplistening.org/dlc/65olive.html#soop

i think that piece of equipment is familiar. (nudging gygax!.)

― msp (msp), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha,

scroll down (the pic links don't work anymore):

New Buchla analogue synthesiser modules!!!!!!!

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

i feel awfully wrong doing this but i just can't help it...

http://gnv.fdt.net/~christys/light/oliveros.html

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

are you threatened by the sexuality of women, ken?

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

or just their magic batons?

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

that web page embodies everything that was wrong with web design in 1995.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 03:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

if anything i was threatened by the weird lasers n shit going on in the background.. Disco Nihilist OTM

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

i guess what i felt awful about, though, was that that pic just might completely offset the praises that we've been singing about pauline on this thread

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Oliveros: "when I was young I had a red courdouy hat"

(loud offscreen noise interrupts her, long pause)

Ashley: "that means you're telling the truth"

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

corduroy

episode five

start there

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

http://www.ubu.com/sound/aether.html

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 17 September 2005 07:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

i like the deep listening album a lot, what should i get next?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard Deep Listening, but my fave Oliveros album is "Pieces For Accordion & Voice."

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 1 January 2006 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I would go with Milton's recommendation upthread and hunt out "Roots Of The Moment". Good stuff.

― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 1 January 2006 21:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

deep listening band's 'non-stop flight'
stuart dempster's 'underground overlays from the cistern chapel'

― eva, Monday, 2 January 2006 04:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Wow, just WOW.

― Rock Hardy, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

to which one? get the dempster ones too

― 600, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

Mostly Crone Music, but also Electronic Works and Deep Listening. It's all amazing.

― Rock Hardy, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Ready Made Boomerang is my favourite but yeah it's all amazing (apart from that Unquenchable Fire thing w/ Joe McPhee which sucks).

― jed_, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Roots of the Moment was reissued last year, and it's probably on amazon

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=22230

― Milton Parker, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

i did a deep listening workshop in glasgow with Pauline O about 18 months ago. she's an incredible, inspirational woman.

― jed_, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

I concur with the love. Just today I found the "Accordion And Voice" album on Lovely Music from like 1981, so psyched to hear it. My favorite is Deep Listening I think. The one in the cistern.

― sleeve, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have corresponded with her girlfriend, whose ancestor was a famous black politician during Reconstruction. She wrote a book about her family. I've been researching something that touches upon her family history. Skot's g-g-g-g-grandfather knew Pauline Oliveros's ancestor.

― Maria :D, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

Not PO's, rather PO's girlfriend's (a family tree version of 7 degrees of separation)

― Maria :D, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

finally listening to the new CD reissues of Accordion and Voice and The Wanderer -- happy that other labels are picking up the slack since Lovely doesn't seem as interested in reissuing some of their earlier albums, like Blue Gene Tyranny's Out of the Blue. the reissues are great -- these were her first full length solo albums I think? and notably all acoustic, no electronics at all, though the microtonal tuning on the accordions really give an edge. and the mini-gatefold covers are beautiful, the covers really make the albums

Accordion and Voice keeps things meditative & drony -- this heralds what she'd get up to later once she added real time electronic processing on Roots of the Moment, and sounds like what she brought to the group improv on Deep Listening. The Wanderer has uptempo ensemble works, a 23-strong accordion orchestra playing hopped up 7/8 swingtime minimalism, and there's a bonus track of her playing accordion with david tudor playing bandoneon -- also no electronics, and very pointilist / atonal, not droning, a few noisy outbursts. if you want to hear them improvise using electronics, there's the 17 minute noisy feedback sprawl "Applebox Double" from 1965 where she and Tudor rub and strike amplified wooden appleboxes with various household objects, it's on the ONCE Festival box set -- http://www.newworldrecords.org/album.cgi?rm=view&album_id=80567.

lots of new Oliveros CDs out, there's evidently a 30 minute bonus track on her reissue of Primordial Lift from the same sessions

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

& thanks to dleone for spotting the discs, man does a terrifying version of toto's "africa" I forget almost everything from kevy b's kareoke party after the cuervo was opened

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

If you haven't heard it yet, you should chase down the fairly recent HAT reissue of Roots of the Moment, too. A really fine record, perhaps the best of her with accordian.

New World is also reissuing the David Behrman produced Columbia LPs of early Cage and Feldman piano this month/next month. Super psyched about that. I feel bad for those who threw down the $43 dollars for just the Cage 2CD Sony-Japan edition after seeing it on the recent FE update when both sets are going to be available together for about $30/$35

― oo, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

is the HAT reissue different from the original HAT CD of Roots (besides adding track marks?)

yes! http://www.newworldrecords.org/album.cgi?rm=view&album_id=81273

I love New World, I recently heard a tape of that 1959 Feldman album and it's kind of ground zero

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Actually, I wouldn't know if the Hat reissue is different. I only said that because it's what's available. I've got the original and I like it just fine, maybe better because I prefer the artwork on the old edition.

Is "ground zero" a good thing? Blue Gene does liners for the Cage/Feldman reissue.

― oo, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 22:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

I prefer the original packaging too

'ground zero' = the Feldman most people heard first. Feldman's 'Piece for Four Pianos' (where four pianists play the same score but choose their own tempo, staggering out the chords) is huge for me, and when I realized it was first released in 1959 it seemed like a missing piece of history because the way the piece sounds takes a certain precedent over the later Riley / Reich / Oliveros / Eno pieces that explore phasing & overlapping motives using tape loops. Riley's 'Music For The Gift' and Eno's 'Music for Airports' in particular are very much following up on 'Piece for Four Pianos'. so it's great to see that coming back into print.

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2007/07/pauline-oliveros-i-of-iv.html

― Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

― Dominique, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ha what a great picture! I've actually been listening to her a lot lately, actually this piece and the Primordial Lift stuff. It's awesome! I'm eager to hear more of her work.

― Mark Clemente, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

I missed a free deep listening workshop the other month cos I went to sleep. I am a fucking dope.

― President Evil, Friday, 20 July 2007 04:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Her turntablism

― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 22 November 2007 16:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

I got Accordion Koto with Miya Masaoka while I was in SF...so good.

― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

the new Sub Rosa compilation Four Electronic Pieces 1959-1966 is fantastic, especially the first two pieces. they are living beasts and ten mazes ahead.

I thought we'd heard the best of her 60's electronic music by now, but I was wrong, this one is just as sharp as Electronic Works. Alien Bog / Beautiful Soop, No Mo, & A Little Noise In The System are the other three releases of her 60's improvisations, unique and wonderful but in enough of a similar mode that I don't play them as often (though when I'm in the mood, 'A Little Noise In The System' is really enjoyably uncompromising & relentless, it's flat out noise but it's more about curiosity than a display of power)

But this new one! 'Mnemonics III' is basically an extra 18 minutes of the setup she used for 'Bye Bye Butterfly', but instead of the plunderphonic sample detour, the oscillators just keep stretching

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 22:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

a friend of mine is putting out a new record by her, please support his great label

http://roaratorio.com/

― mekka lekka hi mega-hiney hoes (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 January 2011 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

bump

― mekka lekka hi mega-hiney hoes (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

i am super broke right now but wld v much like to buy that record, at some point, in the near future

― Lamp, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

title is so great

― Lamp, Friday, 14 January 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh noes, vinyl only?

― earnest goes to camp, ironic goes to ilm (pixel farmer), Friday, 14 January 2011 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think his records come with download code

― mekka lekka hi mega-hiney hoes (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like roaratorio! i will stock this album.

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah great label and just a fantastically nice dude too

ian i would highly recommend "rag" by george cartwright and davu seru, great local mpls free jazz rec he put out

― mekka lekka hi mega-hiney hoes (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

fans of drone-y accordion compositions should peep this album by bosnian composer merima kljuco - this track is really unsettling:

― Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I bought that Roaratorio release, I like it.

― sleeve, Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Disc 1:
Pauline Oliveros Home Electronic Music Studio 1961
Time Perspectives

Disc 2:
San Francisco Tape Music Center 1964-1966
Mnemonics I
Mnemonics II
Mnemonics III

Disc 3:
San Francisco Tape Music Center 1964-1966
Mnemonics IV
Mnemonics V

Disc 4:
University Of Toronto Electronic Music Studio 1966
II Of IV
III Of IV
IV Of IV
V Of IV
III

Disc 5:
University Of Toronto Electronic Music Studio 1966
Team & Desecrations Improvisation
The Day I Disconnected The Erase Head And Forgot To Reconnect It
Jar Piece

Disc 6:
University Of Toronto Electronic Music Studio 1966
Another Big Mother
Fed Back 1
Fed Back 2

Disc 7
University Of Toronto Electronic Music Studio 1966
5000 Miles
Angel Fix

Disc 8:
University Of Toronto Electronic Music Studio 1966
Bottoms Up 1
Nite
Ringing The Mods 1 Heads
Ringing The Mods 2 Tails
Three Pieces I
Three Pieces II
Three Pieces III

Disc 9
Mills Tape Music Center 1966-1967
Big Slow Bog
Boone Bog

Disc 10
Mills Tape Music Center 1966-1967
Bog Bog
Mind Bog

Disc 11
Mills Tape Music Center 1966-1967
Mewsack

University Of California San Diego Electronic Music Studio 1967-1970
50-50 1 Heads
50=50 2 Tails

Disc 12
University Of California San Diego Electronic Music Studio 1967-1970
A Little Noise In The System
Red Horse Headache

― Milton Parker, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

sheesh

― lebron traveled (am0n), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

awes

― j., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 04:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wanna box that set.

― nobody gives a shit about the githzerai (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 05:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy fucking shit.

― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 08:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Only semi-related, anyone heard that whole C.C. Hennix album the same label put out? Sample sounds good.

― nobody gives a shit about the githzerai (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 10:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Damn

― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"A most important discovery and major influence on my work came in 1958. This discovery came with the aid of technology; I simply put a microphone in my window and recorded the sound environment until the tape ran off the reel. When I replayed the tape, I realized that although I had been listening carefully while I recorded, I had not heard all of the sounds on the tape."
The microphone did not selectively "listen" to sounds as she did, but rather documented the entire sonic environment. From that day on Oliveros decided to work toward refining and expanding her awareness of what she termed the total "sound field".

from the box's David Bernstein essay

― Milton Parker, Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:25 (11 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

yeah this box

I think the thing that really hits me most about it is how it's not only vintage, but all recorded in real time. Back in the 60's electronic music was still not really being conceived of by anyone, let alone 95% of its practitioners, as a medium for live performance. Audiences had no idea of how the sounds were realized, they just emerged intact on the tapes, and even the composers who you could imagine spending hours rocking out with an oscillator & reel to reel tape delay were hesitant to 'compose' any such pieces for performance, in the age of serialism everyone had to have everything meticulously scored out in advance.

So a 12CD box of pure uninterrupted live takes is kind of a revelation -- a couple of these pieces are perhaps a little tentative and there's a little bit of feeling around but the level of quality is so unbelievably high that these all do go down as early proof-of-concepts for electronic music as a live performance discipline.

Retail price is much much much higher than when you order it direct, but... still worth it

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:17 (10 months ago) Permalink

& yes as Owen said the 2 CDs worth of extra 'Bog' pieces from the Mills Tape Music Center, where she wires up the Buchla to engage in Frog & Insect concertos with the wildlife singing loudly in the pond outside the studio... those are particularly amazing (I think they're even deeper than Beautiful Soop/Alien Bog), but discs 2-4 with the early Mnemonics and all the alternate takes of the X of IV series are the ones I've been playing the most

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:21 (10 months ago) Permalink

Only semi-related, anyone heard that whole C.C. Hennix album the same label put out? Sample sounds good.

― nobody gives a shit about the githzerai (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:17 AM

'electric harpsichord'? its one 25min piece, on the ominous discordant side of drone

― am0n, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:19 (10 months ago) Permalink

Haven't cracked the Hennix just yet, only heard about her a couple weeks ago (?!)

― is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:22 (10 months ago) Permalink

ubu web has a 3hr long dutch radio broadcast of c.c. hennix that is def worth grabbing (when their servers get back up)

― am0n, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:29 (10 months ago) Permalink

talked about here - Catherine Christer Hennix

― am0n, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:31 (10 months ago) Permalink

That Hennix is wonderful

― sarahell, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

n e one ever attended pauline's "college"

http://deeplistening.org/site/content/certificate-program

― am0n, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

an ex of mine did, she loved it. I don't remember much of her descriptions other than lying on the floor with her eyes closed listening to various things Oliveros would play them.

― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

i took part in a full day programme with her when she was in glasgow a few years back. it involved waking up the body, learning how to walk slowly, learning how to sing slowly, walking and singing slowly (simultaneously) and, to be honest, it was.... really really beautiful. an amazing experience and she's an inspirational woman.

― jed_, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:58 (10 months ago) Permalink

Only semi-related, anyone heard that whole C.C. Hennix album the same label put out? Sample sounds good.

― nobody gives a shit about the githzerai (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 6:17 AM

I think he's asking about the new one, Chora(s)san Time-court Mirage: http://importantrecords.com/imprec/imprec354

I like it a lot; a long single piece very much in the vein of La Monte Young's "Map of 49's Dream", sharing the same sine wave major chord drone + sustained brass chords + alap vocal singing over the top. It's got slightly more forward motion than the Young piece. Doesn't come on as instantly as "49's Dream" or "Harpsichord" but if you like those two you definitely want this

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:10 (10 months ago) Permalink

o sweet, i want to hear that

here's the 3 hr radio thing - http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/sound/hennix_cc/Hennix-CC_Dutch-National-Radio_2005.mp3

some pauline stuff there too - http://www.ubu.com/sound/oliveros.html

― am0n, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:39 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

heads up bay area: http://musicnow.mills.edu/concert3.php

― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 02:19 (7 months ago) Permalink

yeah! i will be there.

― geeta, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:25 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

http://www.citypages.com/2012-12-26/arts/2012-artists-of-the-year/

See page 7.

― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 27 December 2012 20:13 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

http://monoskop.org/log/?p=6568

― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 22:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

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