any excuse to post this:
― some know what you dude last summer (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Just another relaxed day at home:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/01/08/prince_ann_500.jpg
And he talks a bit.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 January 2009 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
nice. i am anticipating MPLSOUND.
also watch 'em while you can:
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Friday, 9 January 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ the pains taken to avoid his purple majesty's bare cheeks
― Et tu, Crut? (The Reverend), Friday, 9 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm very curious about what he does with ProTools. Could be really interesting.
― Matos W.K., Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
not like it's the first time, he's been using it since 3121 at least
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:48 (fifteen years ago) link
earlier i had a crossword clue that was "part of TAFKAP" and even after i had filled in "ARTIST" it still didn't register for a minute
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Saturday, 10 January 2009 03:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Utterly of non-interest to anyone anywhere. Unless you are, you know, alive and breathing:
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/watch-while-you-can-prince-rehearsal-videos-1984/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 February 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Is Matos sittin' down?
― iago g., Monday, 15 February 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Cool. Extended "When Does Cry" and "Erotic City" sound good.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/PRINCE_OFFICIAL/status/8476096110
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Shhhh, don't tell Prince about the Youtube videos
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Like his little routine in "17 Days."
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link
His James Brown rooted and updated moves were/are always fun to watch plus the extra little hopping and running around stuff here
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 February 2010 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Cave17 Matt C should be checking these videos out also
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Matos, what do you think?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
oh dear lord. this is fantastic.
I love how he goes through his moves, knowing they're already mastered, and keeps a more critical eye on the band. what a fun loving task master!
― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
......aaaaand they're gone
― Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:19 (fourteen years ago) link
got to see 5 of them, haha. oh well. hopefully someone capped 'em while they were up
― Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Damn, I only got to watch "When Doves Cry". I hope these can make their way onto Dailymotion or something.
― otto günne (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
new song to debut friday on The Current radio:
http://www.startribune.com/blogs/85053272.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUss
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
.....and it's awful:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/the_current/features/2010/02/prince-cause-and-effect/index.shtml
man he has so completely and totally lost it.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
bad wrong false prince
― Fetchboy, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
wow yeah that is bad
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
WTF is Prince using MS Songsmith now?
― might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to say "nothing can ever erase the work he did in the 80s" but i somehow wonder if this song is actually capable of erasing the master tape to "if i was your girlfriend"
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
With the amount of stuff going on in the background it sounds like he recorded over the top of something. In case anyone is wondering what the reverse bit at ~3:30 is, it's Prince saying "contracts just make you smaller".
― might seem normal but is actually (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the problem with all of prince's stuff from the 90s on is that i think he fundamentally misunderstands what made him great at one time.
he's a great minimalist that thinks he's a maximalist.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
eh he's done some good minimalist stuff since the 90s - Black Sweat, for ex.
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
but yeah I agree that in general he's better when he's doing less
Am I crazy or has Prince benn listening to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=CXCiS2FpmIc&feature=related
― mottdeterre, Friday, 26 February 2010 17:47 (fourteen years ago) link
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 26, 2010 5:44 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
black sweat....and....black sweat...and..um...black sweat ; )
j.k. but yeah that's the only song i've heard in years i thought was GOOD good not just "hey this is pretty good for prince now, i guess"
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't listen to this at work but it's probably for the best.
it's funny, i just listened to mplsound again and thought it wasn't that bad (if you have no expectations except for dad-prince).
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
oh what the fuck
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
like I could put up with the verse and I could put up with the chorus, but not both together in the same song; that is exactly the wrong thing to do, dude
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i should do a poll, this song versus his vikings playoff song, which sounded like the work of a slightly deranged lutheran church choir director
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
at least the Vikings playoff song was awesome in its insanity; this is boring, mild-mannered shit that thinks it's shit-hot
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
replace lutheran w/ witness and you just about summarized prince 2010
― I'm so 3000-and-8080 (The Reverend), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
title tracks of musicology and 3121 were pretty good and stripped down imho. there was some other track on musicology that I liked but I'm blanking on it at the moment... but yeah his hit-to-miss ratio is pretty sad.
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
its weird how humorless his recorded output has become. dude was funny as hell when I saw him um... 10 years ago
― dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, when even the people who defended The Rainbow Children are like "yo this is hot trash" it's time to reconsider your artistic vision
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey, I really like The Rainbow Children!
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I do, too! This is bullshit tho
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Prince has been churning out the doo doo for a good long time now. Last thing I really liked by him was that "P=Funk" track. He's creatively bankrupt IMHO.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
How Prince managed to lose it this badly makes a pretty great case for contracts, editorial guidance, et al.
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean - he's always crammed as much as he could get away with into his songs and it usually worked. Probably because they were songs. Stuff like this new track just makes my eyes glaze over.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, this is a song, it's just not a very good one
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, February 26, 2010 6:41 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i disagree what is "crammed in" to, say "Kiss" or "When Doves Cry"?
both those songs are prince at his best....a peculiar, brittle minimal digital funk.
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The problem with that statement is that Prince at his best is not only "Kiss", "Alphabet St", "Housequake" and "When Doves Cry"; it's also "1999", "I Wanna Be Ur Lover", "Mountains" and "Gett Off".
― Jack the Dude-Kicker (HI DERE), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i think we may have different tastes in prince....
still i don't see those songs as being particularly busy or overstuffed like recent stuff
(though full disclosure: last album i heard was the one my wife got free when she went to a concert...it seemed just "fine" in the same way i guess like a new mark knophler solo album would seem to a dire straits fan)
― for HOOM the bell tolls (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 26 February 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Jeff Gold's great story about working with Prince.
An excerpt:
I was WB’s new senior vp of creative services, responsible for the art department and much of marketing, and when I saw Prince’s proposed album cover—a tight close up of his face, with two fingers in front of his lips, and his tongue sticking out between them, I thought it was kind of…ridiculous.
Since the album was a major priority for the company, I went to Mo and Lenny with my concerns. They suggested I have a meeting with Prince, and so Benny Medina, who worked closely with Prince, set one up. I was a major Prince fan, having seen him on Purple Rain tour and a few other times, and while I knew of his difficult reputation, figured ‘what have I got to lose?’ What followed was surely the most difficult meeting of my career.
Benny’s office was dark and sort of cave-like, with no windows. I entered to find Benny at his desk and Prince sitting in the middle of a couch, with the obvious spot for me a couch opposite Prince. There was no small talk, then or ever, with Prince. Benny got to the point, introducing me and telling Prince that I wasn’t particularly fond of his album cover concept.
Just as Benny finished delivering the bad news, there was a knock on the door, and Benny’s attorney stuck in his head. He needed Benny right away. Benny left, and I was alone with Prince, in full hair, makeup, and clothed like he was about to take the stage (as he always was), sitting about 5’ across from me, not particularly happy. In hindsight, I’m not sure anybody at Warners had ever offered up a negative opinion about his album artwork. He’d earned the right to call the shots, and expected to do so. But still, that photo was so…weird.
We had an hour or more of very difficult semi-conversation, mostly about what I thought he might do instead. Prince had enormous charisma, knew it, and knew how to use it. He also knew how to use silence and pauses in conversation to intimidate people, and he did a great job with me. I spoke respectfully and generally about why I thought a different image might be better. He glared. At one point, he asked with incredulity ‘What do you want me to do, wear overalls like R.E.M.?’ A bit later he said ‘Maybe I should have some clothes made for you’. I was wearing jeans and a button up shirt; he was wearing lime green skin-tight pants, high-heel boots, and a day-glo green, pin-striped, see-through shirt.
After one pause, he said ‘show me some album covers you’ve done.’ I ran upstairs to my office and collected about 20 cd’s I’d worked on, most from my previous job at A&M Records. He looked at each one, saying something dismissive about it, until near the bottom of the pile, he saw a holographic limited edition package I’d worked on for Suzanne Vega’s album Days of Open Hand (which I’d won an art direction Grammy for.) ‘Now this is great’ he said. Why can’t I have a hologram?’
― birdistheword, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:06 (eight months ago) link
Looking over this set, I may probably hold off as well. I like the album, but it's not one of my favorite Prince albums - he had yet to successfully integrate rap elements into his music (I don't think that really happened until The Gold Experience, partly because Tony M was gone by then and Prince handled it himself). The original CD was already mastered fine, that was the primary format, and non-album stuff that's been out there already like the single edits and remixes never really interested me. The three discs of vault items are interesting, I'll check those out, and the live material may be great, but it's possible I'll just be fine with the album I already have.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:41 (eight months ago) link
Apparently eight tracks from a preliminary version of that D&P set (and ultimately removed from the final track list) has leaked. Have not heard them myself but supposedly some good stuff in there.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 24 September 2023 06:19 (seven months ago) link
i found an up of lauriann on YT, i won't bother linking because it'll probably be down by the time i finish posting, it's fucking _great_ tho
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2023 18:14 (seven months ago) link
I’m going to be aggravated if this turns out to be good and I buy a damn Diamonds and Pearls box set.
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 24 September 2023 19:26 (seven months ago) link
If this further fucks up and delays their Super Deluxe reissues, I'm going to be really pissed.
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/prince-estate-lawsuit-heirs-attempting-seize-control-1235580400/
― birdistheword, Saturday, 13 January 2024 09:06 (four months ago) link
have his films been polled?
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 15 March 2024 04:32 (two months ago) link
ran across the lyrics from New World off Emancipation, both anti-trans and anti-vaxhttps://genius.com/Prince-new-world-lyrics
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 01:05 (one month ago) link
Ahead of the curve, as always. But srsly folks, was there anyone in the 80s up to and maybe including Boy George who blurred the lines between every boy and every girl than prince? Physician, heel thyself.
― It was on a accident (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 04:41 (one month ago) link
As much as I love Prince, he's always been a wildly uneven political commentator, moreso after he became a Jehovah's Witness (which happened not long after Emancipation). His discography has tons of dubious lyrics and plenty of critics flagged them in their original reviews. It's a credit to his tremendous gifts that the musical elements of his work was usually more than enough to overshadow his lyrical deficiencies.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:04 (one month ago) link
i can see how you could project an anti-trans reading on that but it seems like a stretch. how do we know that's what he meant?
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:09 (one month ago) link
he was a jehovah's witness for one
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:18 (one month ago) link
i'm sure he had some fucked up views, i just don't get that from the lyrics in this song
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:20 (one month ago) link
well obv i get the anti-vax thing from these lyrics. but which part is anti-trans?
As bird stated earlier, the song was recorded well before he became a JW. Likely around 1994. He converted around 2001. Also it stole its premise from Brave New World and likely didn't reflect any strong opinion of his own. Were anti-vax or anti-trans positions even on his radar at that time? Probably not.
― sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:27 (one month ago) link
or he's always been much more conservative than we thought
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 19:32 (one month ago) link
i don't know, a guy like prince, all you can is "it's complicated"
he wasn't always a JW, but he always loved god, he was always a Christian, and in those days, everything he learned about God was that God hated queerness. and something in him loved queerness, loved lesbians especially. "vagina was half boy and half girl/best of both worlds"... i mean, that's a gross way of looking at lesbians, but there's a _fascination_ there, at least. his closest collaborators were wendy and lisa, the work he did with them was the best of his career, and then he fired them for, well, being lesbian, mostly. he loved women, loved being around women, and he abused women. abused everyone around him, but especially women. he sings about wanting to be alone, and at the same time he kind of hated being alone. he sings about not taking pills and he took them, took them to deal with chronic pain, pain that stemmed in large part from his spending all those years walking around in high heels, and they killed him.
life gets complicated. sometimes. i mean, you look at little richard... with prince it was always a two-step, prince was never openly _queer_, he just had a, uh, sexuality. but little richard, him and queerness and god... it was complicated. little richard hated himself, and that's really sad to me. he shouldn't have had to go through all of that. it doesn't excuse anything. it's just what happened.
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link
that's an even-handed and generous reading of prince imo.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:57 (one month ago) link
i've cooled on him since his death tbqf
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 20:58 (one month ago) link
yah great post Kate
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:02 (one month ago) link
Excellent post Kate.
Also, just in case it wasn't known, Prince was raised as a Seventh-day Adventist, so he was probably surrounded by very social conservative brands of Christianity his entire life. And IIRC the Star-Tribune published an epic oral history after Prince's death where Wendy Melvoin mentioned that during one attempt at reconciliation (well after Prince had converted to JW), he asked her to renounce her sexuality and convert as well - pretty bad, but it's probably something I would've predicted given what was publicly known about his faith. It was a bittersweet remembrance though - Wendy knew the path he had taken and what it meant in terms of their friendship, that things would remain a mess, but she forgave him.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 21:56 (one month ago) link
Thanks to Kate and bird for the nuances
― sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 22:13 (one month ago) link
https://polishedsolid.substack.com/p/my-2023-prince-year-in-review
The person who does this Substack just had a Prince conference this weekend in NY and am seeing lots of folks speaking highly of it online
― curmudgeon, Monday, 15 April 2024 14:54 (one month ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi9nlmMA12Y
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 15:05 (one week ago) link
A good bit of pre-1999 concert footage is out there, but it's usually in-house video feeds or video shot from a distance, so professional multi-camera videos like this are kind of startling for me to see for the massive jump in production quality. I really hope they do an early Prince box set soon, especially of the Dirty Mind era - for whatever reason I gravitated more towards that stuff when I was binging Prince the week after he died. Just amazing to see them as this hungry little band that was still trying to make a career of their music. (And tbf, at least one of them ended up with a regular day job despite their talents.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 18:48 (one week ago) link
According to IMDb, this was his first national TV appearance. I think he did American Bandstand shortly afterwards, and a little over a year later he was co-musical guest (with Todd Rundgren!) on the notorious episode of SNL where Charles Rocket said "Fuck" on-air (supposedly Rocket said he only did so because we thought it was okay since --he believed-- Prince had already just done so in his performance of "Partyup").
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 18:59 (one week ago) link
I have an incredible pro-shot single-cam video (torrent) of:
PRINCE LIVE DIRTY MIND TOURNEW YORKTHE RITZMARCH 21 1981
but have never seen any other early stuff out there
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 19:04 (one week ago) link
Wolfgang's Vault has a whole show from the end of the Controversy tour - they may have taken down the complete show and left up a selection of clips, but other channels have uploaded a copy of the complete show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdUPjdEciqA
Also, from the tail end of the Dirty Mind tour (basically the European leg), this show from Théâtre Le Palace, Paris, France (June 4, 1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w2THFyyy24
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 20:08 (one week ago) link
assless chaps or GTFO ;)
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 20:09 (one week ago) link
Should mention, the first show is from January 30, 1982 at the Capitol Theatre.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 20:09 (one week ago) link
Prince on American Bandstand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krEXzOEsP9I
DICK CLARK MADE HIM WEAR PANTS
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 20:29 (one week ago) link
The further we get from it the more 80s Prince feels like a miracle, an impossible thing
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 21:16 (one week ago) link
Here's the "Partyup" from SNL, which is actually live, unlike the Midnight Special and Bandstand performances.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/TdDTtEYLRZd42znK/?mibextid=oFDknk
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 21:26 (one week ago) link
ah here's the Ritz show, assless chaps start at 17:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x1P84W5fa8
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 21:58 (one week ago) link
Technically, all chaps are assless
― Millennium Falco (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 23:45 (one week ago) link
pedantry
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 00:20 (six days ago) link
That guitar solo at 42:30 is worth a few minutes of your time.
― enochroot, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 01:53 (six days ago) link
wow at that Ritz video!
― Bertold Brak (bendy), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:26 (six days ago) link
holy shit i don't think wow quite covers it but yes wow at that ritz video!
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 16 May 2024 13:40 (five days ago) link