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I still need to get the third unheard comp. and i really wanna hear the steinski megamix 12 inch of that record. i'm not really feeling that prince po record. i need to listen again though. i like that he's all over the place sound-wise, producer-wise, song-wise, but some of it just sounds kinda uninspired to me.song-wise and production-wise. i was scared of the plant life record cuz of big ups from mos def and song titles like, "luv 4 the world (why they gotta hate?)" but i like it! i like the stevie/prince/whoever retro sound and nothing makes me cringe on it. maybe there is more undiebohoretro love in me than i thought.and i like the dj rels album too and i usually run screaming from anything that is described as "jazzy" in the world of beats/rap/dance. don't ask me why. i just do. i can't help it. but i like his beats be they broken or breaking. sounds cool to me. so, anyway, search and destroy the label if you wish. and comment on the rels and plant life if you have heard them. for some reason i would think the plant life would be a real love/hate kinda thing for ilm. a la outkast.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahahaha!! Disregard my plant life talk. they aren't even on stones throw. what do i know? i thought i got the rels and the plant life from the label. Plant Life are on Counterflow.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe i'll start a plant life thread. has anyone heard it yet?

anyway, i still want to know what's worth getting on stones throw.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll watch and be quietly intrigued!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Jaylib - Champion Sound is definitely worth it. My favorite record last year. Quasimoto's Unseen is pretty good too. IIRC, Madvillain is also on Stones Throw.

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Saturday, 19 June 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Peanut Butter Wolf, My Vinyl Weighs a Ton - super-blunted great DJ stuff with some of that west coast scratch-sculpture stuff that I dig. I'll second the Quasimoto album, though it's hard to listen to all in one sitting.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the unseen is definately dense, but it makes the great parts within all the more rewarding.

OXNARD REPRESENT.

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Saturday, 19 June 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I like dense! I will check it out. And I've always meant to pick up some Peanut Butter Wolf, the stuff I have heard I have really liked.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 19 June 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i've never heard anything approaching unworthy at all on stone's throw. one of the better-run and more consistent labels around these days it seems to me.

duke jackal, Saturday, 19 June 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

the bluenote remix thingy was a little too sleepy and acid-jazz for my tastes. funky 16 corners is goodness, however.

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

if you like madlib, get the Lootpack album.

Funky 16 Corners is worth having. That Jukebox one isn't.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 20 June 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't like the Lootpack album. sub-pharcyde. unlike the Charizma and Peanut Butter Wolf disc which sounds like Big L's nice, hyperactive younger brother rapping over bouncy native tounges beats. they reissued this obscure funk/psych/jazz band called Stark Reality's Now which is loosely based on a children's album by Hoagy Carmichael or something. And one dude plays distorted vibraphone. I reccomend that. Madlib also has a Stevie Wonder cover album under a pseudonym thats pretty cool, but I wouldn't buy it.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Sunday, 20 June 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

dont get anything by yesterdays new quintet. and dont get sucked into the 'its produced by madlib so it must be great' vortex either.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

dickvandyke on YNQ = OTM

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

dickvandyke on madlib = OTM x 10

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll say it again: if you like Madlib's production, get the Lootpack album. that being said, dickvandyke is indeed OTM.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 20 June 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone have any opinions on "Blunted in the Bomb Shelter"? I'm not sure if it's on stones throw or not but its madlib.

Anyway yeah the Charizma and Peanut Butter Wolf album is terrific, and the description of it above is ridiculously dead-on. The first thing I thought of was Big L minus the new york thug posturing.

The Lootpack album is great, saying something is "Sub-pharcyde" is not an insult as the Pharcyde's first album is nigh-untouchable. The Lootpack album is still wonderful.

Madvillain is obv. greatness.

Jaylib is...ok.

scott seward...why the revulsion towards "jazzy" hip-hop? I hate the words used as a description because they are woefully inadequate to describe sample based early 90s hip-hop and are rock critic terms. It seems to me like you might be reacting more to the critical diction rather than the actually music.

djdee2005, Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i recently bought the blue note cd untinted with all the songs madlib reworked for his blue note tribute cd and was quite amazed at how bizarrely, yet oddly charmingly bad, his less than rote keyboard thumbing and prodding really is.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

What do you mean "keyboard thumbing"?

djdee2005, Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

well i dont really think he plays the keyboard as much as he sort of timidly taps, thumbs, presses it, etc.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Um what are you talking aobut? He doesn't play the keyboard at all, he samples. SP1200.

djdee2005, Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

huh? have you not heard any of his YNQ meanderings?

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I was talking about the Blue Note album but I was under the understanding that YNQ was all samples as well.

djdee2005, Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, nope. it isnt. the only thing programmed on it is the drums really. everything else is played by madlib, whether its vibes, keys, whatever. im sure theres a few samples in there too, but its not the bulk of it. i think he should just stick to the SP1200.

if you have the blue note cd he did, check out the untinted cd. its on blue note as well, and is basically all the originals madlib remade for his album. its cool to compare.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never been a big fan of jazz/rap hybrids. I was never a big fan of acid jazz. I've never been a fan of "jazzy" drum & bass. Samples of laid-back smooth groovy cool jazz drums and bass never did much for me. Whether in dance music or rap. There are exceptions of course. I like big brassy horn samples. But I like them whether they are r&b or jazz or funk samples. I like flutes! Even "jazzy" flutes. I mean, if a sample is used well I usually don't care where it came from. And obviously a great breakbeat is a great breakbeat and a great bassline is a great bassline and there are only a million great ones on jazz records. And I liked Red Snapper and the brit instrumental group Sand that had jazz leanings. But mostly, I just listen to jazz if i want to hear the sounds. And i'm sure there are tons of people who incorporate jazz elements into their sound and do a great job.(i was a fan of that first Dream Warriors album!)

And the promo stuff for the Rels album is working the nu-jazz tag hard. But I like it a lot anyway. It's cool. Great beats.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i think he should just stick to the SP1200.

Agreed. Or he at least should, y'know, actually practice and learn how to play keyboards before releasing any more of that material.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 20 June 2004 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

ah, practising is for commoners. madlib is a genius, he doesnt need to practise or learn anything. he knows it all already. this post goes out to peanut butter wolf.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

captain funkaho

the man behind funkaho also did the best zine of all time "jank"

ddd, Monday, 21 June 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

S: Madlib, Lootpack, Quasimoto, etc. Super Duck Breaks, Persevere 12" (great scratching, I actually sold my copy and regret it), Rasco "Unassisted" 12", PBW "Run the Line" 12", the Charizma/PBW stuff, that early Encore record (I forget what it's called). I should probably qualify this by saying that after 1998 my attention span mostly waned.

D: Yesterday's New Quintet, Breakestra, etc.

Also, I have Funky 16 Corners and it's kinda cool.

mcd (mcd), Monday, 21 June 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

i assumed people would start ripping Yesterday's New Quintet, but I liked a couple of the songs. i don't really remember any of it anymore though and i probably liked it mostly because i had listened to like 7 boring indie guitar bands before i listened to it and I will probably never listen to it again. but for 10 or 15 minutes there it was enjoyable. so i guess i am a yesterdays new quintet apologist then.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Monday, 21 June 2004 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...
add BaronZen to the roster. Curiously WHY??

cs appleby (cs appleby), Thursday, 25 November 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link

new stuff to discuss surely ?

i have the Oh No album (Madlibs bro) whcih has some superb tracks as well as filler .. and then there is the return of Quasimoto soon. i never heard the unseen album .. but i have the new ep .. aint sure what i think just yet .. its a mixture of superb loops and the trademark helium vocals which i suspect after a few spins could really annoy ..

anyone jumped on the recent cd/DVD set .. worthy of hardearned ?

or a one spin only DVD ?

also .. my copy of Vinyl Weighs a ton is on Copastetik recordings - not Stonesthrow .. did Stones reissue it ?

so much. so little time..

mark e (mark e), Friday, 26 November 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008V5YB.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

doesn't percee p have a record coming out on stone's throw?

M@tt He1ges0n, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

lol dj dee on this thread

Anyway yeah the Charizma and Peanut Butter Wolf album is terrific, and the description of it above is ridiculously dead-on. The first thing I thought of was Big L minus the new york thug posturing.

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

scott seward...why the revulsion towards "jazzy" hip-hop? I hate the words used as a description because they are woefully inadequate to describe sample based early 90s hip-hop and are rock critic terms. It seems to me like you might be reacting more to the critical diction rather than the actually music.

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

7 years later and i still listen to this album:

http://www.stonesthrow.com/images/djdesign/DJDESIGN.gatharound.400.jpg

scott seward, Sunday, 26 August 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i think i still have that wildchild cd somewhere. and there is one declaime(dudley perkins?) song thats good.

artdamages, Sunday, 26 August 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, how we used to talk

deej, Sunday, 26 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

theres like 30 threads from 2004 where you get butthurt by standard ilm dismissal of jazzrap

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:07 (sixteen years ago) link

its still weird to me dudes call things 'jazz rap' that arent jazzmatazz or the first digable planets album.

deej, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

-- djdee2005, Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:23 PM

am0n, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

You critizie our method of how we make records
you said it wasn't art, so now we're gonna rip you apart
Stop, check it out my man
This is the music of a hip-hop band
Jazz, well you can call it that
But this jazz retains a new format
Point, where you misjudged us
Speculated, created a fuss
You've made the same mistake politicians have
Talkin' all that jazz

artdamages, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link

-- djdee2005, Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:23 PM

-- am0n, Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

thats cuz hes next-level

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link

or maybe my sn wasn't intended to remind you what year it was

deej, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

deej defends 2004 screenname in shocking rebuttal to am0n

and what, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i was like 'what AM i doing w/ myself' and then i wondered how u justify spending this time either

deej, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

what was it intended to remind one of if not the year 2005

am0n, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

is this a good time to also ask about Al's "sitcom" and "hotelopera" screennames

am0n, Sunday, 26 August 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

so ahead of my time my parents haven't met yet

deej, Sunday, 26 August 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

wasnt feeling the j rocc album. sounded like a bunch of fake dj shadow tracks - not at all what i expected from j rocc as it just wasnt very funky really (liked play this too a bit though). the one sampling nas was great, and the very last track was great. the rest of it though, nah. sounded quite tired. shame as hes such a great dj.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

enjoying this a lot lately -

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51e%2BJ6ubz0L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

street date Nov. 1

about 3/4 of the production is straight Madlib, with guest appearances/productions by Aloe Blacc, Talib Kweli, Karriem Riggins, Georgia Anne Muldrow, Alchemist, Oh No, Kurupt

difficult to adjust to ilxor being a low frequency poster (ilxor), Sunday, 2 October 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Anybody heard 'The Stepkids' album...not bad not bad...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, its a good'un that stepkids album.
only problem is its too short.

mark e, Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, its a good'un that stepkids album.
only problem is its too short.

mark e, Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, its a good'un that stepkids album.
only problem is its too short.

mark e, Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

ooops .. wi-fi dropout results in mult. posts !
apologies.

mark e, Sunday, 2 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Georgia Anne Muldrow's new album drops in March with Madlib producing. First time he's produced a female artist too, I believe.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

well he produced a few tracks for NuAmerykah pt. 1

still, this might be something to look out for!

incredible shrinking man on euphonium (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

actually went back to strawberry incense on pt 2 yesterday, rad.
i heard the first song from this record & wasn't really feeling it, but'll listen to anything he's doing right now, so still optimistic

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I probably should give Olesi some more listens: last time I played something from that album, I was v pleasantly surprised at how much I liked it

incredible shrinking man on euphonium (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Olesi's a wonderful album... in partic, Leroy.

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

I should have said this will be the first complete album Madlib has produced for a female artist. Lots of potential, hopefully.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

well he produced a few tracks for NuAmerykah pt. 1

not to mention the best track on pt 2.

i wasn't too into that muldrow/madlib track i heard, but would kill for a full badulib lp.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

GAM hasn't topped Olesi but she's done a lot of good work since. Keen for the new one.

questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

is it gonna be on stones throw? anyone know if its being PR'd in the UK?

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

not necessarily stones throw but that forge your own chains comp that now-again put out a while back is p incredible

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Come to think about it, I don't think Georgia's new one is on Stones Throw.

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

haha, it isn't - just received a tweet saying she's not been on the label since 2006

Harvey Weewax (stevie), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

Okay so I'm off by several years. Still looking forward to it. Ha!

Frozen_Warnings, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

amazing cover, good beats, passable retro battle verses ... but where's the dolemite?

there's barely any dolemite here except some sampled grunts.

lame

http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/store/covers_original/TEG21975CD.jpg

the late great, Friday, 6 July 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

new strong arm steady soundin good

very sexual album (schlump), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

thread bump inspired me to throw on the 10 years comp. now I want weed.

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

What About You (In The World Today) by Co Real Artists was on my wedding playlist -- sort of my little sly jab at adulthood I guess

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17367-alone-together/

has anyone heard this
i can imagine a karriem riggins beattape being just what i need but i don't know, & i feel like it's the kinda thing i'd have to live with rather than hear to suss out

absurdly pro-D (schlump), Friday, 9 November 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link

it's as hit and miss and all over the place as you'd expect, enough amazing moments to make it a keeper though. k. riffins and tom tom are both awesome. lots of wonky moog lushness and a bob moog shoutout iirc

Crackle Box, Friday, 9 November 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

this is fun, http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2012/06/stones-throw-podcast-74

~bacon trailblazer~ (schlump), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

The Stepkids album really stands up...love the P-funk vocal stylings on 'Brain Ninja'...the track they released late last year sounds really promising too...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

a little late, but I love this video, and song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3ahYMQA8TY

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

Neat Steely Dan-esque track from forthcoming stepkids record

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-stepkids-ponder-lifes-gambles-in-the-lottery-song-premiere-20130611

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link

I'm looking forward to the doc

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 11 June 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

alright listened to this stepkids track and ya

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the stepkids album is glorious

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

Really looking forward to this...loved the first album...'Sweet Salvation' and 'The Lottery' are sooo good

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 07:44 (ten years ago) link

diff between this and first album is like the diff between the b&w and colour scenes in wizard of oz

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 08:24 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.spin.com/articles/the-stepkids-troubadour-stones-throw-album-stream/ stepkids streamin here

memoirs of grey and the lottery are completely amazing but everything else is kinda so so on first listen

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

should I post this on the R&B thread?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

It's a grower, maybe. It's one of my favourites of the year.

Ottworks SKG (stevie), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 06:47 (ten years ago) link

really like this stepkids album

the late great, Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

really good, lilys vibe, other things as well, great listen anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgiTkd0AQRQ

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 14 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link

really glad that stonesthrow is sometimes just putting out whatever the fuck they feel like now, kind of like numero group putting out those unwound reissues or whatever

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 14 September 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

New Karriem Riggins - Headnod Suite is good stuff

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 3 March 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link

The Gabriel Garzon Montano album is so great - like weird early 70s soul (Shuggie Otis, Fulfillingness-era Stevie) shot through with some Til I Die-era Brian Wilson melancholy

Dysphagia Nutrition Solutions (stevie), Friday, 3 March 2017 09:53 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

totally agree and was wondering if i had started a thread for this guy yet. apparently not.

https://www.npr.org/templates/event/embeddedVideo.php?storyId=529874786&mediaId=530052899

cyclist "bones in motion" is full of spiffy melted C60 warehouse pacman toe tappers.
dj rels album super untouchable my most played of 2017

massaman gai, Friday, 26 May 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

there's a new dj rels??

pickety third (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

ps that's a bee gees rhythm machine just over gabriel's left shoulder in that video above

pickety third (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

no new dj rels, i just picked it up late, blown away.
love the way the cyclist disc is equal parts stock aitken waterman & _:zoviet*france:_

massaman gai, Saturday, 27 May 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Boleros Valses y Mas by Frankie Reyes is a nice, if weird record, basically boleros and waltzes played in MIDI-simplicity on an analog synth

niels, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link


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