New Jack Rose album? (Dec 2009: RIP Jack Rose)

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Apparently it's out but I was at Kims today and didn't see it. It's called Raag Manifestos and I think it's on VHF (??!?). Anyone heard anything?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 11 June 2004 03:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Roger, I think it was a tour thing but you can still buy it from a few folks. Midheaven have it listed here.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 11 June 2004 07:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's at Eclipse, too. Vinyl version forthcoming from Eclipse later this summer, apparently.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Friday, 11 June 2004 13:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

I heard him do a session on Resonance FM. Incredible. Anyone know a link for his mp3s/details/biog?

Kev hopper (spoombung), Saturday, 12 June 2004 07:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

'Tis good. A few more raucous things than his usual Faheyesque stuff, but there's that on there aswell.

Wandering Boy Poet, Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
"Linden Avenue Stomp" is the jam.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 24 September 2004 04:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

should i go see this guy live tomorrow nite?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 April 2008 17:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

He's been really, really good both times I've seen him. His solo stuff (judging on the two live shows I've seen, both of which were 3-4 years ago) is pure Fahey/Takoma worship in a very good way.

Is he with Pelt? Pelt are flat- out great, probably the best drone-y group I've seen.

BigLurks, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yes. I mean, why not? I saw him in a church in Chicago on a psych folk underground superstar bill (Espers, Heather Leigh Murray, Born Heller, Bridget St John, Fursaxa) and he was great! Have you liked solo acoustic performances in the past? If so, he shouldn't disappoint.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

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Trip Maker, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean i checked out his myspace and it seemed pretty cool, was just wondering if anyone had seen him before....seems good, totes fahey, bert jansch etc etc etc but good

i'd kill to see espers

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

You should go, Matt. He rips shit up with the slide.

ian, Thursday, 24 April 2008 19:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Agreed. His slide playing is great to watch.

krakow, Thursday, 24 April 2008 19:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Picked up a couple of this guy's albums last night, Raag Manifestos and the one with the black cover, also on VHF. Both pretty good, playing a bit more straightforward than, say, Chasny or Blackshaw or other guys doing similar stuff -- more Fahey-esque, I'm aware he's often compared but if the shoe fits... anyway, so far I like him a lot.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i've been listening to him (and Pelt) a lot lately. def. more steeped in blues/appalachia than the guys you mentioned, yeah -- for once the Fahey comparison is fairly accurate.

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 16:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

Looking forward to an upcoming collab album with the Black Twig Pickers.
I bought a Jack Rose record from Mike Gangloff when he was in my town doing music with Pelt and Spiral Joy Band. I think it was a Dr Ragtime thing, I'm forgetting the name right now. It's really good, collaboration record with a bunch of folks on it, instrumentals. Mike plays banjo on a lot of the tracks. I'll have to check on the name of the record at home.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 16:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

He is indeed Fahey-esque: so much so that he even does the spoof liner notes thing on a couple of albums, signed "Joe R Sack, blues scholar".

I like him a lot - I really ought to get some more of his stuff.

Duke, Thursday, 7 May 2009 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Details on that Jack Rose/Black Twig Pickers record. Guess it is out!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Members of Joy Band and Pelt join Jack Rose for the newest Jack/Twigs recordings - if you have enjoyed the collaborations on recent 7" and Dr. Ragtime records, then this is going to be a beautifulexperience!!! Shoudl be posted on Klang.org soon!!!!!

Raw and rocking collaboration between Jack Rose and the Black Twigs with some of the most swinging, hard-hitting string music waxed in many a decade. Rose’s solo playing has always had a tough edge, with his prodigious technique often employed in the service of dropping right-hand bombs – his use of a thumbpick originates from his years of duets with Twig Mike Gangloff, struggling to make his guitar heard over Gangloff’s crashing banjo. The front line of Rose and Gangloff’s strings are joined by Isak Howell’s no-nonsense guitar and harmonica and Nate Bowles’ variety of expert percussion. The four players lock together with a sure-footedness honed by frequent touring and a singularity of intent to rock. Gangloff takes the vocals, howling out standards like “Little Sadie” firmly in the old-time tradition – without reserve. A few of the tracks here are updates of Rose & family classics, with the group turning the stately “Kensington Blues” upbeat and an issuing an assured take on “Bright Sunny South,” first recorded by Pelt (w/Rose and Gangloff) back in 2001 on their gonzo classic double “Ayahuasca.”

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 16:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I don't have a link but apparently Jack Rose passed away due to a heart attack in his sleep.
Fucking awful miserable thing to have happen. Too young.

ian, Saturday, 5 December 2009 20:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh shit, no way! how old was he?

tylerw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't know exactly. Forties?

ian, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i didn't think he could be much older than that ... RIP ...

tylerw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 21:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I really hope it's not true, where did you hear?

krakow, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

FUUUUUCK that. What?!

Trip Maker, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh man, also hope this isn't true. :-(

' ( *_*) ERROR HANDLING (^_^ ) (Alan N), Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

No sign elsewhere yet, so I have hope.

krakow, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

I just saw jjt post something on facebook about it.

ian, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

yikes, RIP. glad I saw them/him.

sleeve, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

holy shit

crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's true. Cory from Threelobed just posted it to twitter.

krakow, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Totally unexpected and terrible news.

krakow, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Awful. RIP.

twice boiled cabbage is death, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

That sucks - I've met him a few times and he was a really great awesome guy, in addition to being a great musician. The last time I saw him, there was this drunk dude heckling him, but I'm not remembering the details of it right now.

sarahel, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is fucking terrible news.

Duke, Saturday, 5 December 2009 22:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

sorry for the random update, but Three Lobed Recordings is extremely
sad to pass along news that our dear friend Jack Rose passed away this
morning in Philadelphia at the age of 38. This news is still fresh to
us and we're still trying to process it. Jack was a warm, caring
person and was always a pleasure to be around. His larger than life
spirit will truly, truly be missed even moreso than his inspired
musical ability. Our deepest sorrow goes out to his wife.

Rest in peace, Jack.

Cory

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

38! fuck me.

Duke, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

That's fucking miserable. Going to jam some of those records tonight for sure.

ian, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

couldnt believe it when that email arrived

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

this sucks, just saying that again.

sleeve, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Lord, I just saw a retweet from 3 Lobed about this. Hard to get my head around. Dude was barely a month older than I was.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

geez, 38! i guess we're lucky to have gotten all the great music from him while he was here, but you can't help but think he had a lot left to give ...

tylerw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

now playing: Pelt "Ayahuasca"

I'm 5 years older than he was...

sleeve, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

just played "Dr. Ragtime" -- such great, open-hearted stuff ...

tylerw, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

I saw him pestered by a heckler to play "Kensington Blues" over and over at an instore at the old location of The True Vine in Baltimore and eventually he played it, with great humor and force and compassion. A great musician and a life-force. As I understand it through the grapevine, the heckler was a troubled guy who died not too long ago of a drug overdose, and now Jack's dead too.

I can't believe he's dead at 38. Jeez, I'm 38.

twice boiled cabbage is death, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

:(

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is fucking awful. great musician, great guy.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Show at the house here in a couple hours.. I intend to be playing much Pelt/Rose in between sets
This is totally a bummer

"I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Sunday, 6 December 2009 01:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

nice long jam w/ peter walker here ...
http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Peter_Walker_with_Jack_Rose/
and a radio session here
http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2008/11/jack-rose-vpro-dwars-session-2007.html

tylerw, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

NO WAY.

Just saw this... :-(

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just posted my radio tribute to Jack over at the Holy Victrola weblog.
Songs from Jack in all his ensembles and solo, plus other things that may or may not have been the kind of music he dug.
I mean, I'd read his praise of the Pigpen led Dead burner "Easy Wind" before, and obviously Fahey was an influence, but I just kinda figured that maybe he was a Charalambides fan, and I just got to hear Market Square for the first time, so...anyway....
One of his friends told me to play something from Link Wray's self-titled, so I've got faith in that, at least.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 19 December 2009 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

cool! looks like a great playlist. Not that it would fit in with what you played, but judging from some of his friends' remembrances, Jack was quite the Doors booster ...

tylerw, Saturday, 19 December 2009 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Damn. Missed opportunity. We've got Strange Days at KOPN.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 19 December 2009 16:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

A Valentine for Jack Rose

http://issueprojectroom.org/2010/01/18/a-valentine-for-jack-rose/

Wow, Michael Chapman playing in Brooklyn. I wouldn't think that happens often.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 22 January 2010 17:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

He played in Harlam a few years ago!
He might be playing at the store too, but it's unconfirmed as of yet...

Joint Custody (ian), Friday, 22 January 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol harlam.

Joint Custody (ian), Friday, 22 January 2010 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yikes! Don't let me miss that one. The in-store, I mean.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 22 January 2010 17:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'll keep the internet posted.

Joint Custody (ian), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Feb. 13, Philly: A Record Release Party and Memorial Concert for JACK ROSE

"Jack Rose passed away suddenly at home in Philadelphia on December 5, 2009. He was widely regarded as the most profound exponent of acoustic guitar playing of his generation. Jack grew to be loved and admired by a great many people through his live performances, electric personality, serious cooking skills and a general mastery in the art of friendship. This concert is a release party for his new album Luck In The Valley and an occasion to celebrate and remember the good Dr. Ragtime. The artists performing were all dear friends of Jack’s and admired by him musically."

Saturday, February 13, 2010 – 7:00 PM
Latvian Society of Philadelphia – 531 N. 7th Street

Tickets: $18
Available now: http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/4067

Performers:
D. Charles Speer & The Helix
Thurston Moore | Paul Flaherty | Chris Corsano
Michael Chapman
Pelt
The Black Twig Pickers
Glenn Jones
Byron Coley
Meg Baird | Chris Forsyth
Megajam Booze Band
DJ Ian Nagoski
Video clips curated by Tara Young

More info: http://www.arthurmag.com/2010/01/19/memorial-concert-for-jack-rose/

jaybabcock, Friday, 22 January 2010 23:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, Strange Attractors has put up the first teaser trailer from the forthcoming DVD. Looks like it should be a winner and a half:

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 January 2010 03:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

whoa, that philly memorial show sounds great. i hope tickets are still available in two weeks, i don't think i can afford it now...

spastic heritage, Saturday, 23 January 2010 04:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

The memories continue:

http://citypaper.net/articles/2010/02/11/blues-for-jack-rose

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Miss this guy. Really looking forward to the posthumous album this year.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 11 February 2010 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Long form trailer for the upcoming DVD now up:

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 February 2010 05:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I've been fortunate enough to receive an early review copy of the DVD with Glenn Jones. It's a treasure, and it's just nice to see Jack again, in some way.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, here's the information again on the tribute collection, due for release in a couple of weeks online:

http://www.fina-music.com/catalog/index.html?id=104712

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 03:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Good to see some more Jack stuff being released. I admittedly still need to pick up Luck in the Valley -- will do that this week.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 13:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

jesus christ

what a joyous, mystical, wonderful record

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Agree -- it's fabulous.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

:(

am0n, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was just listening to opium musick this morning.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I played Raag Manifestos the other night. Really great album.

more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

A year ago today.

Rest well, sir. We all still miss ya.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^ this

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 5 December 2010 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 5 December 2010 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

love this guy 4eva

i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Monday, 6 December 2010 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yo La Tengo dedicated a song to him at Maxwell's last night.

Chonus, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't believe it's a year already. listened to z.m. dagar playing raga yaman the other night and thought of him.

ogmor, Monday, 6 December 2010 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

dedication in the new Six Organs of Admittance record:

"Missing you, Dr. Ragtime. Now who will call bullshit on the bullshitters?"

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Saturday, 12 February 2011 01:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Coming this month:

Thurston Moore - VDSQ Solo Acoustic Volume Five
12 String Meditations For Jack Rose

Solo, untreated, 12-string compositions in tribute to one
of the greats. An album of instrumentals in requiem.

Really miss Jack. The few times I had the privilege of seeing him live are forever burned in my memory. A truly savage loss.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 12 February 2011 07:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

http://www.decal.org/file/2443

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 04:24 (9 months ago) Permalink

Nice syllabus

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

would enroll

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 22:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

idk what he wld have made of this. i wonder if it means money for his estate.

ogmor, Friday, 24 August 2012 11:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Four years.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, still sad. I am now older than he was when he passed.

New Pelt album has some heavy Jack-inspired moments on it related to their shared history, as well as a song called "Of Jack's Darbari" (the album is also called "Effigy", though I don't think it is solely because of Jack being gone). It is a great record and a very fitting way to pay tribute in some ways, barring just playing a ton of Rose's albums and the Pelt records he is actually on.

grandavis, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:47 (5 months ago) Permalink

three years, but yeah, still a bummer. listened to luck in the valley last week and it really seemed like he was just getting started. haven't heard the new pelt yet, but will seek it out!

tylerw, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:05 (5 months ago) Permalink

It's really good Tyler, and pretty unique to my ears. Still doing the all acoustic drone thing from the last 2 records or so, but even more of a strange mix of instruments/strategies.

grandavis, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

agreed that the new Pelt is great. soundscape with the jaw harp blows me away.

it's LP/Digital only...the record is nice. sounds great, too. out here: http://mie.limitedrun.com/products/504355-pelt-effigy

also can't believe it's been 4 yrs...saw him play just a month before he passed, and was lucky enough to see him & pelt at the last Terrastock. great shows.

dronestreet, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Forever missed:

http://soundamerican.org/jack-rose-is-real

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:19 (2 days ago) Permalink

Man, reminiscences of Jack are just so interesting, cause everyone feels compelled to lay a heavy story or two on you, which speaks volumes about the path this guy cut through music/life. Hope there are a bunch of unreleased beauts out there awaiting release, just cause it would be nice, but still sad there won't be new tunes.

grandavis, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 18:30 (2 days ago) Permalink

nice article... yeah, there should be some sort of big jack rose box set w/ unreleased stuff.
by the way, anyone have this? http://oh-be-joyful.blogspot.com/2010/11/nice-and-nasty-selections-from-dr.html [link is dead there...]

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:12 (2 days ago) Permalink

listened to "two originals of..." last night -- man, "red horse" has to be up there with the all time great Takoma epics. the whole thing is stunning.

tylerw, Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:47 (Yesterday) Permalink

Yeah man, that is killer. I need to own more Jack Rose records.

grandavis, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:05 (Yesterday) Permalink

I suppose red horse was the first solo piece he released? arrives perfectly-formed. that bit ~1.20-1.50, gaaaah. mb the only thing that withstands comparison to the great san bernardino birthday party. it was always a beautiful, melancholy piece but it feels so sad now.

ogmor, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

think i posted this over on the other thread, but if you missed it - http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/49362884245/jack-rose-peel-sessions-two-very-much-missed

tylerw, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:28 (Yesterday) Permalink

Whoa, thanks Tyler. If you posted it already I missed it.

I wonder how much of this (Red Horse)was improvised? Some of it is so damn good it is hard to imagine it being so, but it seems a lot of times pieces this long are "loosely structured" so say the least. I gotta say, that interview in Arthur was really enlightening, just full of cool details. Like I said, I gotta get more Jack Rose records.

Sad doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. The way he pushed himself, and the run he was on, made it pretty evident that he had some tremendous things ahead of him. Just a shame, but at least he got a pretty decent amount out whilst charging ahead.

grandavis, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

xp sun dogs! heard him play it in a church & it was the most incredible thing

ogmor, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:35 (Yesterday) Permalink

by the way, anyone have this? http://oh-be-joyful.blogspot.com/2010/11/nice-and-nasty-selections-from-dr.html [link is dead there...]

Yeah I have that. Pretty lo-fi (in both sound & packaging) CDr. Don't recall if I got it from Volcanic Tongue or Rough Trade.

Wandering Boy Poet, Friday, 24 May 2013 12:48 (48 minutes ago) Permalink


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