Eddie Palmieri

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what to buy? i really like 'Puerto Rico' but don't know anything else. a primer please

gareth, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

there was some nice Eddie Palmieri stuff on the NU YORICAN soul comps (soul jazz)

jk, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

He's got a huge catalog and I have only heard a few things. I didn't like "Palmas," which seemed too close to simply being jazz, for my taste. I bought an old CD (as part of a larger package), "Azucar Pa' Ti," this past year and I was happily surprised by how much I liked it, from start to finish. Some very suave sounding tracks, but also some tracks where the groove sounds like it's going to bust open from the sheer energy of the music. I like the relatively recent "El Rumbero del Piano," but not as much. "Malaguena Salerosa" is a great salsa song for dancing (and listening, though I find it hard to merely listen when it comes on). I didn't especially like the CD he recorded with Tito Puente before, though it has some good tracks. I wish I could be more specific about what I don't like about Palmieri's sound sometimes, but there's something about the way he uses horns that I often don't like. Incidentally, he's a lot of fun to see live, if you get the chance.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, check out www.descarga.com if you don't already know it. (This is not spam--I have no connection to it.)

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ed knows about this shit........how about charlie palmieri?

ambrose, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ed doesn't really know. I've got a few discs, search charlie palmieri the montuno sessions, on mr bongo's inhouse label I think. I can't find my other discs. I used to play some of his tunes and I can't remmeber any of it.

Ed, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
Palmieri's got a lot of stuff out there. His older albums are considered classics. Do a web search on him (you can add "discography" or "album" if you wish). There is quite a bit of his stuff available on the web.

kaysee, Sunday, 18 August 2002 23:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
I just obtained a copy of Palmieri's Lucumi Macumba Voodoo (which I thought I had mentioned here). This is really pretty good. In some ways this last track, I think it's the last track, is stretching out in a way similar to the end of Unfinished Masterpiece, but the sound on this whole album is much better than that, or for that matter, better than the audio quality of many of his 70s (and maybe even early 80s) releases. It's nice to hear some older Palmieri that doesn't sound crap on an audio level.

WXPN used to use part of the title track on one of their station IDs, although I didn't figure out until the past few years that this was the album it came from. I was walking around today in sunny, warm (but not too humid, amazingly), Philadelphia singing "Lucumi Lucumi Macumba" to myself (with that little "salt PEA-nuts salt PEA-nuts" like sudden jump at the end of "Lu-cu-MI Lu-cu-MI")--very catchy. The second track is a discoesque (what's the correct adjectival form?) number, probably my least favorite on the album, but okay.

I think this album deserves a better reputation than it seems to have. (I'll take it over boring Palmas any day, but I also think it's better than the 90s-on Palmieri albums I've heard, not that there aren't good individual tracks here and there on those recordings.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I don't know about this final track, the "Highest Good" which sounds at time like a Coltrane-inspired (but not really?) disco smooth jazz mess.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 May 2005 15:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
Palo Pa Rumba is very good.

He's got a new one but it's going to be very jazzy, not really aimed at a salsero audience but rather at a very mainstream jazz audience, with guests like Regina Carter and Michael Brecker.

(I'm sad that gareth has lost interest and moved on to flea market 70s Christian rock vinyl.)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 18 June 2005 15:57 (eleven years ago) Permalink

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Ellis From Die Hard, Saturday, 18 June 2005 16:33 (eleven years ago) Permalink

haha, rs, i got the gold 1973-1976 record the other day

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 20 June 2005 02:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

charlton, I'm listening to Gold now for the first time (since I wanted to hear what you would be hearing), and it seems like a pretty good collection.

My favorite albums so far are:

Azucar Pa'ti (Sugar for You) (1965)
Lo Que Traigo es Sabroso (1964)

[Those are both very early and the sound is especially bad, but the energy is good.]

Palo Pa' Rumba (1984)
Unfinished Masterpiece (the last half of which is somewhat ruined by bad recording)
Lucumi, Macumba, Voodoo (1978)

Vamonos Pa'l Monte (1976)
La Verdad - The Truth (1987)

[I need to listen to these two again though. I've just heard a bunch of these for the first time recently and it's all a blur.]

And somewhat grudgingly:

Eddie Palmieri (1981) which I should love because it has three tracks featuring Cheo Feliciano, one of my favorite soneros, but I'm not totally bowled over by it. A lot of the songs have lengthy semi-classical danzon (recently mentioned on the genres that don't get discussed thread) type intros which isn't my favorite sound.

Justicia has some good stuff on it, but the political spoken word bag is a little passe.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 June 2005 13:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
I like all the recordings I've heard with his band La Perfecta (not necessarily the more recent La Perfecta II recordings though). The first was from 1962. (The first two albums I listed on my last post are from that period.) For no reason I can put into words, I like the original "Cafe," while the version on El Rumbero del Piano doesn't quite do it for me.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 4 July 2005 21:55 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I like one I have called El Sol de la Música Latina, which has a Spanish language cover/knockoff of "You Never Give Me Your Money."

k/l (Ken L), Monday, 4 July 2005 22:01 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Eddie Palmieri & Cal Tjader: Bamboleate (1967), which I've just heard all the way through for the first time tonight, is also quite good, especially the title track. The usual cliche is: Latin hot meets Latin cool, but that's basically what it is, and it works rather well. (I'm not big on Tjader's own work, but I see there's a Palmieri-selected collection of it that I might pick up.)

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 00:16 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I again borrowed a copy of Unfinished Masterpiece which has some really amazing stretches. I've seen people recommend this as a starting point, and I think it could be a good one. Closer to a free jazz feel than most of what I've heard from him, but with a very heavy groove.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 9 July 2005 22:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Super-excellent first track, "Un Puesto Vacante" from Unfinished Masterpiece:

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1RP1IBE3OSBVI2UGCIQCHAHAOB

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 10 July 2005 16:49 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Eddie Palmieri/Cal Tjader: "Bamboleote":

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HMGDZ0AWXWKY0F693ORI12PS9

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 10 July 2005 23:42 (eleven years ago) Permalink

This is not quite as frenzied, "Lo Que Traigo Es Sabroso":

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1GBBZ4JDRNYU70L5E9D9VS4RFZ

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Sunday, 10 July 2005 23:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I've gotta get some of that old Palmieri stuff. I recall reading about it in a nice feature in Latin Beat Magazine from awhile ago. I like his Latin-jazz stuff, including his current cd.

Steve K (Steve K), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 03:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It is a very great album, very fiery and sweet. The violin solos from Regina Carter are enough to make one fall in love with her, and I'm not sure that Eddie P's piano playing isn't overshadowed by his bandleading. Hotly favored to be in my top ten this year.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 14 July 2005 13:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I really don't expect to like this, based on the samples I've heard, and since I don't like Palmas or Vortex or really any of his more jazz-oriented albums. Anyway, I like his 60's through early 80's work more than what he's done since then, in general. I wouldn't mind hearing it though, just to be on the safe side. (That's not exactly a hint that I'd like a burned copy, since I'll probably be able to download a copy sooner or later, although I wouldn't object to a burned copy.) I think it's good that he's working with set of musicians he hasn't worked with previously (AFAIK).

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

RS hit me up at expresso 2222 @ gmail dot com, I still owe you a little somethin somethin

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 14 July 2005 15:39 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
(H-nym, I don't know why I haven't emailed yet except I keep forgetting.)

People asked about Charlie Palmieri earlier on this thread. On one listen, I'm pretty sure I like Charlie Palmieri Y Meñique: Con Salsa y Sabor (1977) and Charlie Palmieri Y Vitin Aviles: Con Mucha Salsa (1977) sounds good so far. Charanga Palmieri y la Duboney: Charanga! is not so much fun, but as I've repeatedly said, charanga usually rubs me the wrong way, especially relatively traditional charanga.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Damn! This Vitin Aviles, whose name I don't even remember hearing or seeing before, is really good! (He does sound similar to Cheo Feliciano at times, but I don't know whether or not he's an imitator. He seems to be a contemporary of Cheo's.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Vitín Avilés - Puerto Rican-born vocalist known especially for boleros, who sang with the orchestras of Lecuona, Xavier Cugat, Charlie Palmieri and Tito Puente among numerous others, who released several albums of his own including 1995's Canta Al Amor, died Jan. 1 in New York City at age 79.

So he goes back a ways. (He might even have been a source for Cheo Feliciano's style.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 August 2005 10:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

How much of this stuff IS there?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 4 August 2005 11:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
To re-summarize, my picks for Eddie Palmieri starter albums would be (in this order):

1. Unfinished Masterpiece
2. Azucar Pa' Ti (early material with La Perfecta)
3. Palo Pa' Rumba (which includes a lot of covers of his earlier material, but all well done)

Unfortunately, all of these, except the third, suffer from very poor audio quality.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:07 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
I was listening to Mozambique a couple weeks back, when a carpet-clearner showed up at my door to do some (unsuccessful) touch-up cleaning near the entrance of my new (unsatisfactory) apartment. He seemed to be enjoying the music, whistling along with it, something I might normally find annoying, but his whistling was pretty musical, and it fit in well enough with the flute playing.

(Hey FW, you should post comments about Palmieri to this thread.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:08 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(I know you don't ever check these boards, however, which is why when I start a thread about Puerto Rico you manage to show up within five minutes.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Eddie's gonna be at the second weekend of the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Fest with the Big Easy's Donald Harrison:

Sat., May 6, Allison Miner Music Heritage/Lagniappe Stage, 4 p.m. (interview w/ Palmieri); BellSouth/WWOZ Jazz Tent, 5:45 p.m. performance

Then he's touring the US again (I think). I know he's doing a bunch of nights in June at tiny Georgetown DC club Blues Alley

I think he's fun to watch live even if you don't like his noisy jazzy side. He is just quite a character...

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:59 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
I own Arete, which is interesting enough to tilt me in a salsa direction, which isn't necessarily natural. B+? A-? I don't even remember how I got hold of this. I guess I thought of him as a represenative dude, and a contemporary NYC one. No idea why I picked this album.

How is he a character? Those groaning noises?

I am surprised that gareth picked him, but I guess I shouldn't be!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

gabbneb, I'm not sure I've even heard Arete, but, as much as I like salsa, I want to warn you that Arete is much more on the Latin jazz, than the salsa, side of the fence. So to be sensible, you might like Vortex, which is also Latin jazz (or mostly--I can't remember), which came out around the same time (and which I happen to like more than his other Latin jazz albums I've heard, for whatever reason). You could also try Listen Up! from last year, which was extremely well-received. Do you want to make the jump to a salsa album, or do you want more recommendations along the lines of Arete?

I will send some helpful links as well.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

So check your yahoo account in a bit.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:52 (eleven years ago) Permalink

thanks for the info RS, but I should warn you - I'm a big dilettante and not likely to pursue him further in the near term. If you want to mention others I might like that would be interesting, but again I probably won't go too far too soon.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:14 (eleven years ago) Permalink

That's fine, I won't be harassing you about whether you've gotten anything.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:19 (eleven years ago) Permalink

(I actually have little idea what other music you like.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:22 (eleven years ago) Permalink

The Palmieri album from last year was Listen Here! not Listen Up!!

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:46 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three months pass...
There's a great piano duet(/battle?) in "Colombia Te Canto" on Lucumi Macumba Voodoo. This must be one of the tracks on this album which include his brother Charlie.

There are some fantastic passages and moments on this album, perhaps as intense as anything else in his catalog. I think it tends to be a bit overlooked because it's so oddball (for salsa, anyway): the Palmieri album with the most overt references to African-based religions also has the most overt disco moments, along with the occasional sudden appearance of European classical instruments seldom heard in Latin music.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

It was a commercial flop. Certainly if the disco moments were an attempt to crossover, they were a failure.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I like one I have called El Sol de la Música Latina, which has a Spanish language cover/knockoff of "You Never Give Me Your Money."

Hm, is The sun Of Latin Music an entirely different album from El Sol... , then?

tiit (tiit), Friday, 15 September 2006 06:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, same thing.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 15 September 2006 11:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
Look for the remastered Fania reissue of this classic album, coming soon:

(That's not exactly what the reissue will look like, but presumably close.)

Rockist Scientist, Hippopoptimist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 4 February 2007 01:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Eddie Palmieri's Lucumi Macumba Voodoo is linked to here:

http://revolucionno.wordpress.com/

A must-hear album if you are interested in 70s Palmieri (and maybe if you are interested in weird late 70s Latin/disco fusions, not that that describes more than two or three tracks). I think I already gave my reasons above, and possibly on some other threads.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

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deej, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Go download Lucumi Macumba Voodoo!

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

i will! when i'm not at work

deej, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 22:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Revive just to say that Ellis is OTM and a half--that Harlem River Drive stuff is deathless. "Idle Hands" is my favorite song of all time, this week.

ellaguru, Friday, 25 January 2008 22:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Revive just to say I am listening once again to Azucar Pa' Ti, and the original La Perfecta albums have gradually become my favorite part of EP's output, though initially I didn't like them much.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 9 October 2010 02:26 (six years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Barry Rogers, man.

Internet Looser (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 18 August 2011 04:28 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Eddie Palmieri is playing this weekend (in Philadelphia) and I don't have tickets yet

Just saw him live again (this time at the Kennedy Center) and once again when someone yelled for something old with a clave beat he said he didn't have a singer, so he couldn't. It's pretty clear he doesn't really like playing with a singer anymore and is more comfortable with his current Latin jazz approach. ALthough he did let his timbales, bongos, and conga player get rhythmic at times with he accompanying them in a more straightforward manner. He's charismatic enough and such a good player that I genreally enjoy him live no matter what (although this 1 hour 15 minute gig that was being recorded for NPR could have used an encore and less of his explaining the history of salsa according to him)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:01 (four years ago) Permalink

Maybe he can make more money this way than he would having to pay a vocalist. Maybe he's spoiled from working with excellent vocalists over the years and is not interested in grooming a new young vocalist.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:18 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't think its a money thing; I think its a music style thing--he doesn't want to have a vocalist standing around doing nothing when he decides to do noisy forearms on the keys solos

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:21 (four years ago) Permalink

Maybe. Maybe, but on plenty of his 70s/early 80s salsa recordings (with vocalist) he goes into dissonant solo passages, but maybe not as extended as he likes to do? I don't know. I think I only saw him perform one time, back in 1998 (or 99?), and I was practically brand new to Latin music at that point. Mostly he was promoting El Rumbero Del Piano.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

I still suspect vocalists would take a bigger slice of profits than other band members, at least if they are vocalists with an established reputation.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:55 (four years ago) Permalink

This Chris Washburne book has me thinking of salsa in very economic terms. The more I think about both the social and economic context of salsa in the past, the less optimistic I am about a large-scale recovery of the genre. Not that I was optimistic anyway. As great a genre as it is, I don't see how the stars will ever align in the right way to bring about a revival.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 23:57 (four years ago) Permalink

Well, what happened to Hernan Olivera? I have seen him sing with Eddie before and once I saw him with Chris Washburne who had invited him to the gig after a few shows with Eddie- Chris plays the La Perfecta gigs when either Conrad or Jimmy, your favorite, can't make it.

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 01:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have quite a few musicians complaining about the drying up of the lucrative Latin gigs.

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 01:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't know, but Olivera is no longer so new and he's got a pretty solid reputation, so again I wonder if someone like that wants more money than he's worth to a bandleader like EP who can just go instrumental. Then again, what has Olivera been doing lately? I'm not in New York, but recording-wise I don't think there's been that much. Could be wrong because whatever it is would probably just be some uninspired cover/tribute project.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 01:46 (four years ago) Permalink

I think Herman still sings with him, I just think he doesn't have a vocalist every show.

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 01:54 (four years ago) Permalink

He hasn't had a vocalist with him at a Washington D.C. show in forever. I don't think I ever remember seeing him with a singer here, and I've seen him here countless times over the years. We just get the Palmieri Latin-jazz presentation.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 14:57 (four years ago) Permalink

But I see that Olivera sang with Eddie out in Hollywood last year

http://irom.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/live-latin-jazz-the-eddie-palmieri-salsa-orchestra-and-ruben-blades-at-the-hollywood-bowl/

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:01 (four years ago) Permalink

I checked with some DC folks in the know and they said that way back in the '70s Eddie used to have no-name singers with him regularly in DC; but more recently just twice over the last decade; with the last time being around 5 or so years ago.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 17:16 (four years ago) Permalink

Actually that reminds me that I recently came across this video

One of the comments said the bass player looks like Oscar Stagnaro but I have since asked two people who would know who it was and they both immediately said: " Is it Oscar? No, that's not Oscar." I'm working up the nerve to ask his son if his dad has a doppelgänger.

Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 January 2013 03:31 (four years ago) Permalink

So I was reading a reference to Palmieri's Unfinished Masterpiece (1974) where he allegedly(I haven't heard it) started out trying to add more African rhythms to his salsa and jazz but he gave up on the effort; and then his label, band and producer decided to add more and "finish" it. But I see on Amazon that the album is out of print, and my quick look on Spotify did not find it either.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 January 2013 19:41 (four years ago) Permalink

I was reading a reference to it in the Will Hermes book on '70s NY music, but I see it was discussed way upthread here also.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 31 January 2013 19:46 (four years ago) Permalink

I bet the whole thing is up on youtube, and you might as well listen to it that way considering how lo-fi the sound of the CD is. Here's "Cobarde":

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 7 February 2013 17:50 (four years ago) Permalink

Of course. will do

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:49 (four years ago) Permalink

Found only one other song from the album so far, but need to look more. Wow, that one u posted is noisy and polyrhythmic.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:24 (four years ago) Permalink

It's not actually all that different, just maybe an extreme point in the 70s Palmieri sound. Also, as I said above, I hear Lucumi Macumba Voodoo as being pretty close. Not as raw, but also much better recorded.

I was just thinking lately about this funny post about that album:

Lucumi, Macumba Voodoo. Definitely one of his weirdest. To this day I never understood why? Why out of tune Cello's after that Brazilian rythm that starts off that weird modal piano solo, only to go into the son MI CONGO? Other than the heart of thsi song and Colombia Te Canto, I don't know what he was thinking with those other three tunes....

rec.music.afro-latin

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:12 (four years ago) Permalink

I still say rec.music.afro-latin was the best online discussion of Afro-Latin music I ever came across (as someone who only reads English, of course). It technically still exists but it's been essentially dead for many years. (Appropriate? Haha.) It was an education, and I assume I'll never be on the same level as most of the people who used to post to it. Also, for me personally, the timing was really good. I took my first salsa dance class in very late 1997. I started fooling around with newsgroups at around the same time, probably closer to 1998. (I was somewhat of a late adapter I guess.) The rise of the web happened to coincide with my entree into the world of Latin music and dance, and I think it helped speed up my learning curve (especially w/r/t the music).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:22 (four years ago) Permalink

I missed out on that.

Unrelated-

Fania/Codigo keeps renaming a 2 cd Eddie Palmieri compilation. First they confusingly named it "The Sun of Latin Music" which is the name of an actual earlier Palmieri album, then they renamed it "A Man & his Music" and now its called "El Virtuoso"

curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 February 2013 16:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Lol. Trying to be (Japanese band) Boris. Maybe they should call it Heavy Rocks.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 10 February 2013 17:30 (four years ago) Permalink

I have that comp. A Man & His Music is the name of the whole series (the Celia Cruz & La Lupe ones are called A Woman & Her Music, the Sonora Ponceña and Fania All-Stars ones are called A Band & Their Music, obviously), and each one has an individual title as well. The Sun of Latin Music is (or was) the official title, and I guess now they've re-named it El Virtuoso.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 10 February 2013 18:50 (four years ago) Permalink

I bought the cd as a gift and it showed up as "El Virtuoso" although Amazon does not list it by that title (the songs and photo matches us with the older titles)

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 February 2013 01:49 (four years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

http://lehmancenter.org/th_event/eddie-palimieri/

You New Yorkers should go up the Lehman College in the Bronx for this:

The maestro will be joined by Special Invited Guests Ronnie Cuber (Baritone Saxophone), Alfredo de la Fe (Violin), Donald Harrison (Alto Saxophone & Vocals), and Joe Locke (Vibes). Also joined by Invited Guests, Anthony Carrillo (Bongo, Bata), Luques Curtis (Bass), Vicente “Little Johnny” Rivero (Congas, Bata), and Camilo Molina (Timbales, Bata).

opening act:
The Mambo Legends Orchestra is comprised of former members of the Tito Puente Orchestra. Led by famed bongocero Johnny “Dandy” Rodriguez and musically directed by timbalero and arranger José Madera, the band is dedicated to keeping the ‘50s and ‘60s Palladium-era sound alive as it explores new musical concepts

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Would love to but don't think I can. Never seen Alfredo de la Fe in person.

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:00 (three years ago) Permalink

A local promoter brought de La Fe down to the DC area once and booked him in a tiny narrow little upscale lounge. Plus the promoter showed Fania era footage on a small screen beforehand. It was a great show.

Here's part of my 2008 review:

De La Fe waited until the third song, "La Negra Tomasa," to join the 10-piece combo. Juste Lounge does not have a stage, so the group positioned itself along a wall right in front of the salsa-dancing couples. Using his trademark electric violin that has six strings on a skeletal plastic frame, the dreadlocked De La Fe quickly made his presence felt, heading out among the dancers and passionately slashing at the strings with his bow. Keeping the interests of the rug-cutters in mind, De La Fe did not solo too long and was accompanied by the band's insistent clave beat via the timbales, congas, keyboard and bass. Although De La Fe has, rock-style, used a wah-wah petal, this evening he kept his technique within the bounds of the Afro-Caribbean tradition.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:13 (three years ago) Permalink

That is awesome, thanks for posting.

I Am the Cosimo Code (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:21 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Ben ratliff liked the show where Palmieri and an expanded group re-did his 1971 Harlem River Drive album, plus some other songs

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/arts/music/review-eddie-palmieri-reprises-a-tantalizing-harlem-river-drive.html?mabReward=CTM&moduleDetail=recommendations-0&action=click&contentCollection=Europe®ion=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&src=recg&pgtype=article

On the record, he used a mixture of his own musicians with others who were working with Aretha Franklin. One of his own was the timbalero Nicky Marrero; one of Ms. Franklin’s was the drummer Bernard Purdie. Luckily, both were present for Saturday’s show, and important parts of it

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 13:35 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Lucumi, Macumba, Voodoo is available on Spotify now. It's flawed (in crazy ways) but has some great material on it:

https://play.spotify.com/album/6rkKQA8OiqgdIiT0DrUWWE?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open

Not 100% sure that link will work.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 August 2016 15:20 (nine months ago) Permalink

It's a very well-recorded album compared to some of EP's albums from roughly the same time period, notably Unfinished Masterpiece, which was a bit of an audio botch.

I can do without the disco/fusion track or tracks, but the exploratory piano duel with his brother Charlie, and the other expansive stretches are good, as is the title cut (which I first heard as part of a station ID for WXPN in the 80s, without knowing who it was, many years before I ever got into salsa).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 August 2016 15:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

I just repeated my earlier post even more than I realized. This is why I am a semi-retired poster.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 August 2016 16:29 (nine months ago) Permalink

As far as Palmieri goes, in general, my favorite material now is most of the La Perfecta era (not so much the first album) and large stretches of what he put out in the 70s through very early 80s. After that it's a lot more hit and miss, but I don't generally care for purely jazz-focused EP, which tended to become more dominant at some point in the early 90s if not sooner. Not going to check to see to what extent I am repeating myself again.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 19 August 2016 16:32 (nine months ago) Permalink

Watched some of his solo NPR Tiny Desk appearance. No obvious dance rhythms till the third tune. The first two are nice and only occasionally get into the discordant banging he sometimes does solo.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/490480164/eddie-palmieri-tiny-desk-concert

curmudgeon, Thursday, 25 August 2016 16:16 (nine months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

http://www.villagevoice.com/2017/05/16/palmieris-wisdom/

Palmieri's been doing a bunch of Monday gigs in NYC at Subrosa-- some noisy, some slightly more rhythmic.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:17 (one week ago) Permalink

i saw him last year in a big outdoor amphitheater and it was SO FUN
so much dancing, lots of energy, awesome show

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 May 2017 18:19 (one week ago) Permalink


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