― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I dunno about "Irishness" - it seems to be a basic element of human nature that people of all nationalities become increasingly anxious to develop and cling to an increasingly romantic and idealised version of their homeland the longer they're away from the dreary realities of it, yes.
I imagine that if I were forced to spend the rest of my days on some horrible Caribbean island right now, within a couple of years I'd probably start singing mournful songs about how much I miss the joys of driving 'round the M25; the efficiency of South West Trains; the exemplary levels of cleanliness, service and excellent cuisine at the Moto services on the M4; and the wonderfully refreshing rain that occasionally interrupts the glorious sunshine than glints enticingly off the abandoned shopping trolleys that have been dumped in the Kennet canal.
There again....
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Graeme (Graeme), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link
This makes it sound like Ireland needs a Manic Street Preachers.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm saying we don't need a house band at all. My thesis is that we no longer have any stories worth singing about.
Actually, there's a native comedy troupe who occasionally appear (Mighty Wind-style) as fake-folkie balladeers, satirising the whiny, recriminatory self-pity that pervades so much of Ireland's "trad" songbook.They're called The Hairy Bowsies*, and their songs tackle Perfidious Albion (Ye Dirty English Bastards) and sacred cows such as the 1916 Rising (The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland) and the Potato Famine (Jaysus, The Spuds Aren't Lookin' The Best).
(*"Bowsie" is a Dublin slangword connoting a man of low breeding and unpleasant personal habits.)
― Palomino (Palomino), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 20 May 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― robin (robin), Thursday, 20 May 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 20 May 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link
philomena begley
― gershy, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I always wondered if "the ambulance . . . took little Jim away" in the Undertones' song because he committed suicide or because a bomb got him.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:37 (sixteen years ago) link
What, no-one's mentioned The Cranberries yet :-)
― ailsa, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link
No Foster and Allen? It's a disgrace, so it is.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Re: The supposed Irishness of the Pogues. The line-up in their mid-80's heyday was as follows:
Shane McGowan who was born in Tunbridge Wells James Fearnley who was born in Manchester Spider Stacey who was born in Eastbourne Jem Finer who was born in Stoke Andrew Ranken who was born in London Cait O'Riordan who was born in Nigeria (before moving to London) Darrell Hunt who was born in Hampshire
but(although he didn't join till Rum, Sodomy etc).... Phil Chevron was born in Dublin YAAAAAY!
― everything, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link
A lot of 19th century National Romantic composers, painters and authors preferred to live outside their home countries.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Their "home country" is England.
― everything, Thursday, 24 May 2007 08:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Bap Kennedy has a few songs that help this Yank relate to living in difficult times in Ireland.
― Mr. Odd, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link
The Divine Comedy - Sunrise
I was born in Londonderry I was born in Derry City too Oh what a special child To see such things and still to smile I know that there was something wrong But I kept my head down and carried on
I grew up in Enniskillen I grew up in Inis Ceathlain too Oh what a clever boy To watch your hometown be destroyed I know that I could not stay long So I kept my head down and carried on
Who cares where national borders lie Who cares whose laws you're governed by Who cares what name you call a town Who'll care when you're six feet beneath the ground
From the corner of my eye A hint of blue in the black sky A ray of hope, a beam of light An end to thirty years of night The church-bells ring, the children sing What is this strange and beautiful thing It's the sunrise Can you see the sunrise? I can see the sunrise
― Finefinemusic, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
the band that best addrsses 'Irishness' and the subject of Ireland ...inna reggae song?
― t**t, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Christy Moore was still the best answer on this thread, but it asked for a band, so it would probably have to be Planxty whose first three albums (at least) were pretty much peerless.
― Lostandfound, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link
planxty was such a good band, and pre-MOR paul brady was even better than christy moore imho (lol i just remembered luka bloom, christy's brother - is he still "around")
― gershy, Friday, 25 May 2007 03:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Mary Coughlan: "My Land Is Too Green" (abt sentimental self-mythologising alcoholics ect)
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:12 (sixteen years ago) link
No mention of Clannad or Enya?
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 25 May 2007 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link
the Virgin Prunes, see especially the song "Down The Memory Lane" or most of Heresie for example.
― sleeve, Friday, 25 May 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
must look these guys up, those titles are pretty sharp.
― U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
There's always the Horslips.
― THESE ARE MY FEELINGS! FEEL MY FEELINGS! (I eat cannibals), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I vote for Primordial. Easily the greatest Irish band of the last 20 years.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link
The Craic We Had The Day We Died For Ireland
lol
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
so beautiful...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link
There's clearly a gap in the market for a band of young(ish) men full of righteous anger spewing venom about falling house prices, the income levy, and the loss of Ranelagh's Michelin star restaurant.
― ecuador_with_a_c, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
or career rebirth for the Thrills, to give vent to the anger of their class....
― sonofstan, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I used to play football (soccer) with the lead singer of Primordial when I was a kid. He's one of my best friend's cousins.
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
my best mate was introduced to his GF by one of the thrills at a wedding, and subsequently given the use of his posh room to consummate said meeting.
that pic from the youtube primordial is five mins from me.
i got nothin else.
― U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
that was actually my dad
seriously tho, first sentence, are you saying your mate slept with guy from primordial's gf? or the dude from the thrills? i saw the thrills in aladdin's on brick lane last thurs. the circle is complete.
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
introduced to his own future gf, not a gf of any of the thrills. that i am aware of.
― U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ah okay, now i understand. the dublin indie scene is pretty small. a lot of bands/artists i thought were irredeemably shite turn out to be v nice and good fun and into techno.
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link
their music still shite tho...imo
― Local Garda, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
certainly.
― U2 raped goat (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7NV52UApGYWomen from the UK/Ireland area have the most soothing songs/voices. This girl, Enya, Leona Lewis, Dolores O'Riordan from the cranberries to name a few.Just something about celtic women singing that calms the soul.Jarsia 1 year ago 34
― pizza pizza and cult jam (crüt), Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
has never heard Dolores O honk like a sealion on "Zombie" i take it
― seapunk run. run punk run! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link
the band ronan was looking for singing about young posh middleclass upwardly mobile ireland (but well aware of cultural nationalism's importance to edge in the celt angle) are probably bell x1 tbh, cf reacharound
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
but i mean the chieftains were suckin diesel last night on jools holland and if we can go back to the dubliners, those are good answers too.
― diafiyhm (darraghmac), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
just think of all those douce celtic sirens like sinead o'connor, jessie j and the melifluous cerys from catatonia
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Saturday, 28 April 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link