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very polar reaction to these guys, as to be expected. lots of gossip abounds but at any rate what's your take? kinda of a chameleonic career: early shoegaze roots gave forth to ambient-prog then sraight-up indie rock (only lasting for an EP) to british invasion and then finally bent psych-folk.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Search:
Better Can't Make Your Life Better (either LP version)
A Brief History Of Amazing Letdowns EP

More later when I'm more awake... sorry.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 03:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

my friend is always lameting why the shins are so big and the lilys aren't. I don't have a good answer for that. search eccsame the photon band, though. Destroy the 3 Way.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, "the 3 way" was kinda where he hit the wall a bit. i haven't heard "precollection" or the new self-titled one though so he may have picked up the ball again. my favourite is still the mbv-flavoured debut and "better can't make your life better", but all the other records have their excellent moment. "february fourteenth" literally changed my musical landscape permanently.

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

moments

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 04:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

ECCSAME = BLISS

That is all.

― Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 05:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Elevator Is Temporary" from "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is one of my all-time faves.
Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

― mzui, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 07:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

What was their proto-Neu album like? The Darla Bliss Out series?

(that's probably the wrong word, but you know what I mean, anyway)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

it was probably the best bliss out release, which is to say it was still duller than dishwater (actually it was ok but nothing special)

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 09:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Can anyone tell me why there are two different mixes of "Better..", one more sixties sounding than the other.

The album came out in the US with the original mix, but after Nanny In Manhattan appeared in a UK commercial there was enough of a buzz that Kurt was able to remix and beef up some of the tracks. The two versions also have slightly different tracklistings.

Precollection sounds utterly forgettable (and almost like mixing was never finished) on first listen, but it's a real (albeit slow) grower.

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

This band is one of my top 5 favorites, but it is real work being such a fan. Everything through Better Can't Make Your Life Better is untouchable, especially Brief History of Amazing Letdowns. I still haven't been able to get my bearings on Precollections after having it for about a year, but I am sure in time I'll get around to liking it. Why oh why can't Kurt just go back and give us something amazing again like Eccsame? Woe is (nerdy) me.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

I adore--absolutely adore--the first half of Lilys' career. From that period, absolutely search:

"February 14th"
"Claire Hates Me"
"Periscope"
"Touch the Water"
"Elizabeth Color Wheel"
"Threw a Day"
all of Brief History of Amazing Letdowns
all of Eccsame the Photon Band

"Ginger" and "Claire Hates Me" are two of my favorite songs ever. Several others of theirs aren't far behind.

But, much to my guilt, I simply don't much like Lilys' second half. The Kinks thing just really doesn't do it for me--I liked them so much better even when they were just ripping off MBV. So I guess destroy everything post-Eccsame, except:

"You Win"
"A Nanny in Manhattan"
"The Perception Room"
"Precollection"

maybe one or two others. This band breaks my heart.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

ARgahargafdadazzzzzz...

Sorta my take on them, really. Yeah, the MBV knockoff is bemusing and all but otherwise, no. I forget the exact nature of the withering comment I delivered after their yawnsome set at Terrastock V, but whatever it was was sufficiently cold and dismissive enough (and involved a negative comparison to Richard Ashcroft's solo work...which I hate) to surprise even Elvis Telecom. Kurt Wossname is a fine and excellent fan of many good records and sounds who should never be allowed near a recording studio.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Nanny in Manhattan, esp. running out your front door in the morning, late for work.

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yay Dr. Bill -- "Clair hates me" is my favorite song.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 13:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Awesome. For some reason, no one ever talks about that song when discussing Lilys. It's the one that really made me love the band.

If only it ended better!

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Does anybody have the "Send In The Subs" bootleg of unreleased material? I have a few MP3s off of file-sharing but never the complete album. What I've heard is pretty great.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 14:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

I used to have it...if I'm remembering correctly some of it came out (as finished songs) on the Aspera Ad Astra split. It was mostly instrumental, right? (I love the lilys, and I remember very little of Subs, which makes me think I didn't like it.) A gazillion live tracks here:

http://www.diamond.ssl.physics.ncsu.edu/lilys/

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 15:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

haven't listened to 'eccsame' in years, but i used to quite love it. (in fact, i haven't SEEN it for year, i wonder if i haven't lost it.)(the album, that is.)

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've got a copy of Send in the Subs. It was mostly outtakes from Eccsame, alternate mixes and instrumental takes. Interesting to listen to, fer sure. It might have the stuff from the Tigerstyle split; I can't remember. I'll have to go home and look at it.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

i think a lot of the lilys success [or lack thereof] is due to heasley being unable to keep his band situations on an even keel.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

there is a new record called 'the lilys'?
i think precollection is great, adds some xtc to his kinks worship. the shoegaze stuff was a bore. i remember when i lived in DC an ex-lily was working the cash register at vinyl ink and got very upset at me for buying in the presence of nothing, told me it was crap, he was right.

they are a thousand times better than the shins. but pas/cal is making the songs i wish the lilys would make now.

the manual blissout is better than the lilys blissout.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 02:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

new on rainbow quartz: lilys "s/t"

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

i stopped paying attention to blissouts after the lilys one

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

Is the actual cover that Edward Gorey drawing? That I'll grant as spiff.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

this is a weird release, huh

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 03:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

I hit the link and can't tell if this is some sort of re-treaded Precollections with 3 or 5 new songs (depending on which part of the web site you read). Of course the label hype makes it sound super. I guess we'll see. Doesn't look like it is generally available yet. Maybe someone here has their mitts on it?

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh and about the the second version of Better Can't Make Your Life Better... mostly it's a handful of quick edits and a whole lot of string and brass arrangements added. Some vocals were brought up. "Elevator Is Temporary" is made even more dramatic which is the real winner... also "Returns Every Morning" has this epic crescendo before the coda.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Right on Gygax & dlp, thanks very much for the info..!

― mzui, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I finally got to hear the "The Lilys" album. The three new songs are very good. Not *incredible*. Not average. Kurt seems to be looking for a way to combine several of his band's sounds: there's still the 60's thing (with his voice sometimes sounding like Robert Pollard, which doesn't thrill me so much) but he's starting to fill in all the space in the mix as in the older days. It's actually a pretty nice sound, though I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola. I still think he's got the best chord changes around, at least since Scott Miller stopped recording.

I hadn't heard the original album in a while, so I can't tell the difference w/the remixes...whatever the changes are, they don't smack you in the face. The sequencing is better than on Precollection.

― dlp9001, Saturday, 31 July 2004 14:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

I sometimes wonder if he's just taken an incredibly circuitous route to arriving at a place very similar to Lenola

Glad I stuck with Lenola, then!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 August 2004 15:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

If you've wandered over to the Returns Every Morning fan site the discography mentions a lot of recordings between 1990 and 1992, as well as some video of the band from that period. Any one ever come across the audio or video? Any helpful hints for tracking it down? I'm within spitting distance of owning all of their commercially available material, and I've got Send In the Subs and the other fairly available boots. But this early stuff, both audio and video, doesn't seem to want to reveal itself to me.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

i remember NME giving better... a 9 on its initial release but then they quickly soured on them after the nanny in manhattan commercial and decided to give the reissue a 2. the reissue has the nice b-side from nanny in manhattan on it, i forget what it was called. i remember having the sub-pop single and i taped it and for some reason it played slightly too fast and after i fixed it i realized it sounded better sped up slightly but i had already taped over the songs. he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing but i imagine his ego is too out of control for that.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 01:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think the Nanny b-side is "More Than That is Deserved."

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

weird, i woke up this morning and put on history of amazing letdowns just to hear "ginger".

if you've got a moment, folks should check out this philly band called THE A-SIDES [http://www.a-sides.net/]. they started off as this rudimentary garage / 60's throwback on their first single but their recently released full length is as close as you're going to get to the second coming of classic lilys. and the thing is, when i listen to the record, there's no blatant ripping off of heasley's style -- its just got a similar vibe to the classic records. best local release of the year, hands down.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

Purchased and eagerly awaited. Thanks for the tip.

― BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Monday, 25 April 2005 12:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

he needs to make a record with andrew prinz producing

he certainly does. actually a lot of people do. he's the twee nigel godrich.

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

it's true. man he'd be perfect for the radio dept. too.

― keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 25 April 2005 23:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

hay guyz i dont know anything about these dudes but i think this record is amazing

― and what, Sunday, 13 May 2007 13:08 (6 years ago) Permalink

no foolin'

"returns every morning" and "welfare murder plot" both shit all over everything the shins have and could ever do, and i like the shins.

this is still true (except i like the shins less now)

― electricsound, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

I have every Lilys record on my iPod at ALL TIMES.

Maybe I am insane.

I think "Better Can't Make Your Life Better" is my favorite.

I still wear cords...

― Saxby D. Elder, Monday, 14 May 2007 03:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

the last lilys record was not good.

― keythkeyth, Monday, 14 May 2007 04:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

"ginger" from A Brief History of Amazing Letdowns" is catchy as hell. I can see Ned's complaints about their more-MBV sounding stuff. They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?). As dlp9001 sorta points out above, trying to do too much in some songs, not enough in others. When their songs are pop-y, they're quite fun.

― john. a resident of chicago., Saturday, 3 May 2008 17:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

i would listen to 'in the presence of nothing' before either mbv album any day of the week

― electricsound, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Eccsame The Photon Band is an excellent album.
That split with a Aspera Ad Astra is smart too.

Moving away from the MBVisms to the Kinks - I thought that 'Better Can't Make....' was wholly listenable for want of a less boring description.

I love me some Lilys. Talented geezer.

― Fer Ark, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

They aren't all that great at it (which, given the setting, is what you saw at that Terrastock set you mention upthread?).

I honestly can't remember. We're talking six years ago now!

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 May 2008 18:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Def. The Three Way, which is the most Zombie-like. "Socs Hip." I don't have that record anymore and can't find it anywhere.

― Kate, Sunday, 4 May 2008 15:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

I still listen to Zero Population Growth on occasion, but now I honestly can't remember much of their other albums.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 May 2008 16:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Some of the through-composition on The 3-Way is ridiculously impressive; I think it let itself get written off as a pastiche record, but it had that great pastiche-record quality where having heavy inspiration lets you make something a million times more complex and ornate and ambitious than a lot of the stuff you're drawing on.

There's a song on Eccsame called "The Hermit Crab," which I listened to once on a listening station in 1996 or so. I didn't buy the record, but the song stuck with me enough that I spent years afterward trying to re-write it myself, a bit, from bad memory: I'd try and write a song something like this great song whose details I couldn't begin to remember. I dug the song up, recently, and it was a bit weird to listen to: every other hook, riff, or melody has some distorted misremembered cousin in songs I've written since then. (Even one three-word snippet of lyrics!) I suppose a decent amount of the original wound up embedded deep in my head, and kept coming out without my realizing it.

― nabisco, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 35 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

I've been listening to 'Better' for years and it vexes me that I still don't know exactly why there are two versions, I even asked Kurt once.

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

isn't it plus orchestration or something? i don't think i've ever heard the second version of better. is it worth it iyo?

― dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's different tracks, additional instruments and production. You should check out both.

It's more the why than the what that has piqued me all these years.

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh ok, thanks

well there's that second version of precollection w/different production and extra songs...confusing

― dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

also what was his response when you asked him about it?

― dell (del), Monday, 28 February 2011 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah well, it was in a very noisy club, I was DJ'ing/trying to concentrate and I was kinda drunk and he's so frigging tall and I was a bit overwhelmed really, so I can't really remember.

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, I have located my 4 CD copies of Lilys' Better Can't Make Your Life Better:
1) US edition #1 on Primary/Elektra (tracks #10-11 = The Sammael Sea/Returns Every Morning)
2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
3) UK edition #2 on Che (remixed with strings, bassoon, bass harmonica, etc.), tracks #10-12 = Touch The Water*/Returns Every Morning/More Than That Is Deserved
*Apples In Stereo cover
4) JP edition #2 again on east/west Japan with bonus tracks which look like it is the Services For The Soon To Be Departed EP tacked on.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

2) JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)

welp there's one for the wishlist

― fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

cover arts:
1-2 have the pink/blue hand diamonds on peachy/yellow background
3-4 have the red/yellow hands on ocean blue back ground

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would love to hear those tracks on the first two.

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

y'all want #2 then? I can U/L the full CD and then just the last 2 songs.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

pls pls

― fat either way, of course (electricsound), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes would like to hear those! had no idea this record was so complicated.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 00:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

me too, thanks!

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 09:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

*uploading now*

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

:D
i spent a good part of last night trying to find video of the time i saw these dudes play at no life records in 96 or 97? no luck, though i could swear that someone was filming.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

JP edition #1 on east/west Japan with bonus: Welfare Murder Plot/Baby's A Dealer (aka Who Studies The Past? subpop single of the month)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/odb00f90qag4nd9/Better%20Can%27t%20Make%20Your%20Life%20Better.zip

If you just want Which Studies The Past?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bslxwe8b8rpg29t/Which%20Studies%20The%20Past.zip

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think in 97 his backing band was The Beachwood Sparks en totale so that would make sense. Aaron from KXLU/Aron's/NoLife was his drummer for a while there.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah --- i think that was before i knew who beachwood sparks were...

― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to this for the first time in a long time "Who Is Moving?" is really ace.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

love this band

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

steve, can you put the uk version up too? thanks for this!

― mizzell, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

at your request.

*U/Ling now*

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

fuck i love the way 'welfare...' is mixed

― some velveeta morning (electricsound), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, never thought I'd hear a CD sourced Which Studies The Past. Very cool, thank you!

― dlp9001, Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

1998 remixed/alternate BCMYLB:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/su2e7jb8ly546ah/1998%20-%20Better%20Can%27t%20Make%20Your%20Life%20Better.zip

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

So I guess the way Kurt wanted them labeled is 1996 version vs. 1998 version.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

A-B "Returns Every Morning" just the drums... pretty nuts.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

what i can pick up: oboe, bass sax, bass harmonica, cello (quartet?), drums to the FRONT, tambourine, a little more crunch out of the rhythm guitar.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

"welfare"'s opening organ/bass riff sounds like an homage to "it's so hard to fall in love" eh?

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Paz En El Hogar" sounds radically different as well... the 98 version cut by a minute or so.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, are there any weird-ass japanese versions of Precollection/The Lilys?

― dlp9001, Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Doubtful, seems like only major label stuff or certifiable indie hits got Japanese bonus track treatment.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

thx steve, you da man

― tylerw, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yep, thank you Steve!

― Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Awesome. I wish there was more rarities from their early to mid nineties days, too.

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

There was a whole instrumental demos bootleg called "Send In The Subs" that was post-Eccsame I want to say?

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

thx shasta!

― ridiculous, uncalled for slap (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that bootleg in the same vein as Eccsame?

― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it was bridging from Eccsame to A Brief History... I had it once (digitally) and now can't find it at all... it's on ebay japan though funnily enough.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

err it was on ebay japan, last year.

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

It has to be on the filesharing networks, it's 14 tracks over 62min, "released" around 1998 iirc?

― A Scanner Snarkly (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Never heard this Welfare/Baby single before, awesome!

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

1994:

1996:

1998:

― queequeg (peter grasswich), Sunday, 12 August 2012 04:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

Thanks so much for these!

― Evan, Sunday, 12 August 2012 18:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

― Evan, Monday, 13 August 2012 04:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

^^I can't ask for much more than an acoustic version of Claire Hates Me ^^

― Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

i dug it, but would have liked him to sing out more

― on a scale of 1 to Rhonda how hot are you today? (electricsound), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

I know styles have changed but there is something so refreshing about seeing such average looking joes playing shoegaze in that 1994 show. I grew up in a rural suburban town so I relate to guys that look like they could be in any old cover band on the outside, but are into messy music like stuff identified as lo-fi or american brand shoegaze.

― Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah he sounds a bit shy, I agree.

Shoegaze is my favorite genre to strip down in that way, since the melody is already so buried normally, but the progressions tend to be really wistful and bittersweet so it just sounds gorgeous.

― Evan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

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