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Bonjour,
can you tell how many minutes is the track "marquee moon" by Television on the original LP of 1977 ? (it seems different from the reissue LP and CD).
Thanks to let me know.
Robert.

robert clerc, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It is indeed. The original LP had 09:58, i believe (off the top of my head), whereas on the CD (old version as well as the new remaster) the track runs to completion and is 11 mins or thereabouts.

Ahh, Marquee Moon. Is there anything it can't do?

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i listened to this for the first time ever-like yesterday.

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

really? (jaw drops)!

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i ended up liking it. at first i wrote my editor and said -- geez, i prefer felt -- is that wrong? ha ha. he wrote back: THAT IS SO WRONG.

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I would say, he was right, but in truth I know about two felt songs. One about a face that goes "Oh nooooohooo" and one with her from the cocteaus.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I will take Felt over Television anyday.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i dunno. felt are sort of television copyists with better organs.

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 08:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

doomie, it's not wrong to prefer TV over Felt!! I'm kinda shocked that you hadn't heard it yet. I'm not trying to pull some bullshit rockist remark by saying that. I'm only trying to express my surprise, in the sense that, I think this is the kind of record that would be right up your alley! Anyway, it's a fantastic record, if pretty top-heavy. The second side does bog down, just a bit. I just wish you could combine the best songs from Adventure and Marquee Moon. But yeah, MM is pretty much tops.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

This word "rockist". I'm tired of seeing it here. I want to know the definition.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Marquee moon contains the best songs. But Torn Curtain, I could lose.

Adventure, I love all of it. Now the title track is there, "The Dream's Dream" isn't quite such a 'wanders off and gets lost' ending to the album.

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, broheems, weird that i've not listened to it until now! alot of music i love seems to be directly influenced by it!

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

doomie: closet interpol fan

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ha ha. i reviewed them live before the record came out -- i thought it was nonsense live and then got it when i heard the record.

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

bimble, "rockist" pretty much refers to any time some lame writer says something that pretty much equates to "I am cooler than you." In other words a rockist critic lacks the ability to convincingly argue their case for the value of the music they champion, and instead resort to lame cliches about the supremacy of what THEY SEE as the best type of music. A rockist would say "Justin Timberlake sucks because he was in a manufactured 'boy-band'". That's a bit of the gist of it. Anyway, it's a silly term. Even the expert himself, ILX's own beloved mark s., claims to use the term somewhat in jest. I trust mark. So I'm gonna vote with him on this one, even as I await his book-length explication of the concept...

In other words, 'rockism' is what I do every time I get on ILX!

hahah, just kidding! sort of. But yeah, it's way lame. Bimble, your opinion, your reaction to music -the way it impacts your life - is as valid as any of these cockfarming rock critics who post on these boards. Believe dat.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Bimble, your opinion, your reaction to music -the way it impacts your life - is as valid as any of these cockfarming rock critics who post on these boards. Believe dat.

That is very true. Hell critics get free music -- i trust the opinion of someone who has paid over someone who gets things for free!

doomie x, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Whereas I have to pay a fiver for my promos.

Track one) Roadrunner
Track two) Up the Bracket

and so on...

mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Tom Verlaine went up to Lawrence after a Felt gig and shook his hand. Lawrence said that Verlaine's girlfriend explained it was the only gig she'd ever seen him enjoy. Even if he did enjoy gigs, there was never any physical manifestation of his enjoyment. But Felt made him happy. Obviously, Felt were influenced by Television, but in equal parts by Dylan and Patti Smith, too.

Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm a much bigger Felt fan than I am a Television fan. But, like I said on another thread, I swear by the live versions of Little Johnny Jewel and Marquee Moon on the ROIR tape. They are beautiful. Much better than the studio versions. And I never even thought about Television in relation to Felt until someone brought it up on ILM a week or two ago. That's how blinded I am.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 9 May 2004 12:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I also never would have drawn a connection between the two bands.

bimble (bimble), Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to Felt in a long time, but I'm not sure I get it either. Is it in the songwriting style somehow? The singing style? They were very different as guitar bands, no?

Tim Ellison, Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

From what I can tell, it's vocal delivery and general literacy. Other claimed influences include Vic Godard and Lou Reed.

Evanston Wade (EWW), Sunday, 9 May 2004 17:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well I'm a bigger Television fan than a Felt fan only because I haven't heard Felt. So what Felt whould I track down?

mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 10 May 2004 05:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"primitive painters" which i bizarrely heard in a computer store in bourke st today

the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Monday, 10 May 2004 05:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think there are other threads on what Felt to listen to, but if you're going for the Felt/Television interface, the best starting point would have to be Poem Of The River.

Canada Briggs (Canada Briggs), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

But, like I said on another thread, I swear by the live versions of Little Johnny Jewel and Marquee Moon on the ROIR tape

scott, what is it you prefer about the ROIR tape? I'm curious because I have it and I find it nearly unlistenable. What am I missing?

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Broheems, that's the lamest definition of rockism evah!

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 06:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

'Days' on Adventure sounds EXACTLY like early Felt stuff, I always thought.

bham, Monday, 10 May 2004 07:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"lamest definition of rockism evah"

Yeah, rockism="It's gotta rock!" and "It might be good, but it still sucks because it doesn't rock!"

Best definition evah???

Tim Ellison, Monday, 10 May 2004 14:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Lawrence actually got the name of Felt from a television song. It's from Venus off Marquee Moon. He liked the way Tom Verlaine exaggerated the line "How I FELT". So there you go.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Monday, 10 May 2004 15:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

could someone explain what lawrence's "new puritanism" consisted of ?

i've had the felt records for years, and up until recently i couldn't be bothered to be to inquisitive about them as people.

mike bott, Monday, 10 May 2004 17:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, rockism="It's gotta rock!" and "It might be good, but it still sucks because it doesn't rock!"

also the idea that authenticity is the gold standard of everything good and meaningful, that something new will almost always be inferior to something time-tested and "classic," that there are two categories, rock and "everything else," and nothing in the second category so much as exists in the rockist consciousness unless it (a) serves as a constant antagonist to all that is good and meaningful in music (b) brushes up against rock in some way that validates it.

this is all pretty reductive but it's a good place to start.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 May 2004 17:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna hijack this thread for a second to express my deep and abiding lurve for "Primitive Painters"(which I'm listening to right now).That is all

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Is the definition in Matos's book (which I liked, but don't want to try to quote here for fear I would get it wrong) the first/only place that the term has appeared in print? Or at least the first time it has been defined? I kinda think it is, but maybe someone should call William Safire and double-check.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

no it is not. i've seen it in print dating back to the early '80s, but i'm sure it's older than that.

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the term has been around probably 25 years now. it originated in the UK press and was vigorously bandied about there. see also this: http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bk-cg80/in_meaning.php

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OK, well I am going to continue to pretend like it is anyway. Cuz, like, I don't have any of those old pieces of print and I've only seen it on the internet. Ignorance, man. I don't want to go so far as to say that it's bliss, but, yeah, it's pretty sweet.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

in fact, much of the ideology that's taken for granted by long-time ILM folk is very directly and knowingly derived from those early-'80s debates, especially where Mark S and Tom E. are concerned.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

scott, what is it you prefer about the ROIR tape? I'm curious because I have it and I find it nearly unlistenable. What am I missing?


Oh gosh, unlistenable, really? I always thought that tape sounded fine. I really fell in love with those versions when I first heard them. I had the Blow-Up tape and then the cd, but i think i sold the cd so i can't listen to it right now, but i just remember it being so tense and powerful. It kinda made me wish that i had a cd that was nothing but old live versions of those two songs. The studio versions never hit me half as hard.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Am I a rockist? I forget. What the hell am I?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My pot-addled memory places the origin of "rockism" to NME ca. 1981, accompanying the rise of disco-damaged postpunk bands and the first glimmering of "new pop" (now called new wave). I've always thought of it as a form of musicial prejudice, a knee-jerk belief in the inherent superiority of rock over all other forms. Judging by genre is always a bad idea, whether it's music or people. But the term got tossed around by a lot of cloth-eared trendoids too -- I doubt Soul Jazz is going to put out a Blue Rondo a la Turk retrospective. So "rockism" always seemed a little snobby and over-the-top as well as being completely accurate.

lovebug starski, Monday, 10 May 2004 21:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The sheer length of this record is an affront to the great jazz musicians of the 20th century, my colleague Will should play them a trombone concerto that I contend would rout them into respectful behaviour. He is a man with little tolerance for so called "diversity".

Jean-Luc (Jean-Luc), Monday, 10 May 2004 21:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Just as I clicked on this thread, the song Marquee Moon came on my iTunes in yet another demonstration of its psychic abilities.
Freaky.

David Nolan (David N.), Monday, 10 May 2004 23:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Scott: Rockist, no. Mentalist, yeah.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 00:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

okay, thanks, Matt. Sometimes I forget.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 00:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The ROIR tape, yeah!

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 08:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

re: Felt and Verlaine; Verlaine had little love for Lawrence et al on record, according to this Melody Maker interview from 1986: "I asked Tom Verlaine to produce us once and sent him this tape. He said he hated it cos it was too fiddly. Can you imagine that coming from him!! Honestly!" Ha ha ha!

Dave Amos, Tuesday, 11 May 2004 12:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I love Felt and it was only recently reading reviews of them on various sites that I heard about the Television comparison. Well, I'd heard the song Marquee Moon before (a bit overlong isn't it?!) and so I went out and bought the Marquee Moon album yesterday. And you know what, I can't see any similarity at all.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Well, I don't know Felt, but I've been listening to Marquee Moon a bit lately, and I'm certain that "elevation" is their best song.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

> a bit overlong isn't it?!

No, it isn't.

Palomino (Palomino), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

jimmy ripp has basically said it's done except for the vocals

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:56 (three months ago) Permalink

verlaine is such an odd case -- i wonder if he'll ever write a memoir of any kind.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:26 (three months ago) Permalink

ha, well, read that Lloyd article linked above -- they've been talking about a new album (and playing various new songs) for well over a decade now.

― tylerw

don't they just do "persia" for 20 minutes at every show?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:29 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah that might be the only new thing they do these days. in the early 00s, there were a bunch of things (handily compiled here): http://www.earcandyarchive.com/?p=24

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:34 (three months ago) Permalink

I wish tom v would write a memoir... as i've made clear i am a bit obsessed with him. There's no way he's ever gonna do it though. He never will, because we want him to. He can barely stand to be interviewed, even.

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:46 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah it's unlikely, though I think someone asked him about it (maybe after the Richard Hell book came out?) and he said he was thinking about it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:50 (three months ago) Permalink

he likes to think about doing things, does our tom

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 21:53 (three months ago) Permalink

haha yeah, i just wonder if he saw patti's book getting on the bestseller lists and thought "hey, i could do that!" probably just a matter of some publisher making a big enough offer ... which is probably not going to happen.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 22:01 (three months ago) Permalink

Looks like the 2003 expanded remaster of Adventure is OOP, is the MM from the same edition.
Shame would hope they'd try to keep both in print.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:25 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah the last CD reissues of the debut and Adventure were from 2003 (along with the essential live at the old waldorf disc). maybe the ship has sailed, but there really should be a Television boxed set of some kind.

tylerw, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 23:27 (three months ago) Permalink

I actually bought the third album in Oxfam this weekend! £1.99 !

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:24 (three months ago) Permalink

On CD, I should say.

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 00:24 (three months ago) Permalink

I love that album

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 03:33 (three months ago) Permalink

I didn't, really. I bought it on LP when it came out, it had that eighties reverb that they'd avoided with the other albums, and the songs didn't connect with me apart from "Call Mr Lee". Also, lots of other records about at the time.

Not played it yet, will let you know.

I know, you can't wait, right?

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 08:16 (three months ago) Permalink

These are Television fans. They can wait.

pplains, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:04 (three months ago) Permalink

This is all I could find from a lengthy, now deleted blog post by Steve Kilbey, singer from The Church. He toured with Tom Verlaine and wrote at length about it, not in a particularly flattering way.

i met one of my all time heroes
tom verlaine (nee miller)
he came on tour with us in 1988
he was a strange dude
penny pinching hilarious sarcastic weird man
nothing like what i expected
he treated me like a pesky kid
and i still vividly remember one day in the dead of winter
somewhere in the north east
we pulled into this hotel at about 6 am
verlaine rings me up 1o minutes after we check in
hey kilbey....you wanna go for a uh walk
ok tom i'll be right there
we walk to the top of this hill
where theres a kinda resovoir or something
and then we see a couple of cars of black guys
with some nasty looking deal going down
and we start running
theyre chasing us
so we run into these woods
and verlaine is sprinting down this snowy wooded hill
like a prize stallion
while i on my shorter legs struggled along behind
i thinkin how weird this is
escaping from these villains with a guy i used to idolize
(and fiends, marquee moon IS one of the best records ever)
later i meet his mom n dad
outside a gig in philly
and his mom says
you make sure tom writes to me

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:54 (three months ago) Permalink

haha that's great.
for the 40th anniversary of Marquee Moon, I traced the title track's development (via rehearsals/demos/live tapes) -- http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1438-televisions-punk-epic-marquee-moon-40-years-later/

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:23 (three months ago) Permalink

I dunno, that's reasonably flattering, the guy actually acknowledges support band singers existence. That's not bad going from any headliner.

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:30 (three months ago) Permalink

Wowee...can't wait to dig into that. Looks amazing.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:32 (three months ago) Permalink

So, where is that Portland 17 minute version, then?

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:33 (three months ago) Permalink

thanks, man, let me know what you think ...
there's at least one version of the Church covering "Cortez the Killer" with Verlaine on guitar floating around ... iirc it's not quite as good as it sounds in theory, but it's cool.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:34 (three months ago) Permalink

xp -- it's embedded in the article? showing up for me at least ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:35 (three months ago) Permalink

Ah, will have to, later. Ta.

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:36 (three months ago) Permalink

heads on the hunt for Television rarities should go here: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/tagged/television

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 15:38 (three months ago) Permalink

I dunno, that's reasonably flattering, the guy actually acknowledges support band singers existence. That's not bad going from any headliner.

I believe Tom Verlaine was opening for The Church. I wish I could find the rest of the post, but it's gone. I do remember him saying how TV would obsessively pour over lunch bills, and howl if he overpaid by as much as 25 cents.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 18:33 (three months ago) Permalink

penny pinching hilarious sarcastic weird man
nothing like what i expected

That's exactly what I would have expected tbh.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 18:35 (three months ago) Permalink

verlaine is such an odd case -- i wonder if he'll ever write a memoir of any kind.

TBF, Richard Lloyd is far from not odd.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 18:37 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah, they are both weirdos. if they didn't play guitar so well together, they probably would have never spoken to one another.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 18:38 (three months ago) Permalink

I believe Tom Verlaine was opening for The Church. I wish I could find the rest of the post, but it's gone

https://web.archive.org/web/20060630060143/http://stevekilbey.blogspot.com/2006/06/one-soft-infested-summer.html

new noise, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 18:51 (three months ago) Permalink

I played that third album today..

I remember now: it wasn't the 'modern production values', it was the feeling that it all (well, 90% of it) could be a Lloyd Cole and the Commotions album, songwriting, vocals,the lot.

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 22:09 (three months ago) Permalink

i like the third album just fine, but i highly recommend tracking down the Live at the Academy 1992 disc they sold at shows for a minute ... think it's even on Spotify.

tylerw, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 22:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Having read Lloyd's piece, I found myself sympathising with Verlaine though that clearly wasn't the intent.

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 22:56 (three months ago) Permalink

I saw them on the self-titled album tour, down in Washington DC. I had to go by myself, nobody was interested. But holy cow, it was one of the greatest shows I have ever seen. They were just so intense.

Fast forward about a decade later, I saw them again in NY. This time I had a bunch of friends. We left about 30 minutes into it. Slow, dull, no energy and they took about 10 minutes between each song to retune.

My friend put it best, "Tom Verlaine seems like he'd rather be playing shuffleboard."

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 23:22 (three months ago) Permalink

I love that kilbey blog post
He hasn't deleted his blog in general has he?

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 23:40 (three months ago) Permalink

Discogs has a French promo single, unissued tracks, dated just after the issue of the third album.

Anyone know anything about it? Or is it a bunchafibs?

Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2017 15:58 (three months ago) Permalink


Tracklist .

1 The Revolution 3:13
2 Big Jo 0:35
3 Hoo

I have found a review, which I nick and repeat here:

This was released with copies of the Self-titled album when it came out in some French department store. It's extremely rare, so naturally one would wonder: is it any good?

Unfortunately no.

All of the tracks are spoken word. The first two are intermittently interesting to listen to one time but are total garbage. Not even songs. The last one sounds like Captain Beefheart or something, spoken word with an occasional song part thrown in. I love some of his music so maybe I'm too kind towards this, because I think with about a minute cut off, it'd be a decent song.

Also the drum sound is shockingly good. These two things each raise the rating by half a star. The last official Television studio release, and it's a complete throwaway -they clearly didn't take this release seriously-. Shame Tom Verlaine lost his mind, they were one of my favorite bands of all time. Hell, the live bootleg from around 2002 of unreleased tracks ("Call Mr. Lloyd" is the name and you can listen to it here: http://www.earcandyarchive.com/?p=24 ) is fantastic, so they clearly could make a successful comeback if they wanted. Sadly Tom is so nuts he hears aural flaws nobody else does whenever he tries to make a new album with the band. Resulting in: an excessively sterile/muted sound (on self-titled he'd only gotten to this stage), some huge fit, and lastly him scrapping everything they'd just recorded. A new album was supposed to come out around 2010 I think but it's now 2016 and not a word has been heard from him aside from occasional live shows... which used to be fantastic but are slowly getting worse.

May he find peace.

Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:04 (three months ago) Permalink

"Hoo" is 04:56 btw

Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:05 (three months ago) Permalink

that Revolution single isn't all that bad, but it's not a hidden classic or anything -- sounds like half-finished leftovers from the s/t sessions. Definitely not worth the $90 they're asking on Discogs.

tylerw, Thursday, 9 February 2017 16:29 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

A nice post-script to the evolution of "Marquee Moon" would be the live 13:58 version from the 1982 live disc on The Miller's Tale comp, just because the recording is so good, and an interesting example of Verlaine solo.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:52 (two months ago) Permalink

I think its the same as on the 12" b-side of "The funniest thing"

Edit: Apparently not, its from 1987, but its still good though.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh, "Revolution"is on it!

Riiiiight....

Mark G, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that 1982 gig is stellar. I think Tyler has some bootlegs that are equal to it on his site.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 2 March 2017 00:36 (two months ago) Permalink

This one?

brownie, Thursday, 2 March 2017 01:02 (two months ago) Permalink

6-4-82 at the Ritz does not quite have the sound quality of the millers tale gig but the intensity is even higher. On that MM, Verlaine takes a striking unaccompanied solo.

Bowery Ballroom 2006 is also a fantastic Verlaine band live recording showing what that year's songs album could do

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 2 March 2017 01:25 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i wrote the script for this little marquee moon video -- they found a few cool pics i hadn't seen before
http://pitchfork.com/tv/56-liner-notes/1967-explore-televisions-marquee-moon-in-5-minutes/

tylerw, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 21:34 (one month ago) Permalink

nice!

niels, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 21:41 (one month ago) Permalink

That's awesome Tyler!

iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:36 (one month ago) Permalink

thanks, jon -- obviously nothing too revelatory for heads, but I think they did a nice job with it...

tylerw, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:42 (one month ago) Permalink

love this pic of Lloyd -- i assume it was taken some time towards the end of "Satisfaction"

tylerw, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:49 (one month ago) Permalink

tylerw, Thursday, 13 April 2017 22:50 (one month ago) Permalink


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