― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:24 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (9 years ago) Permalink
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:27 (9 years ago) Permalink
I've heard Amarillo Ramp when it came out, and it sounded really good at the time.
His Sonic Youth songs are always pretty great.
― ddb, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:28 (9 years ago) Permalink
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:29 (9 years ago) Permalink
I want Thurstin' to record something with Corsano & Flaherty, though. FREE JAZZ IS THE NEW PUNK DUDES.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:30 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Stewart Gardiner (Stewart Gardiner), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:30 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:32 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
I know. I blame the girlfriend.
I hate the lockgrooves...maybe it's better on CD???
well, is it?
― ddb, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:35 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Stewart Gardiner (Stewart Gardiner), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:35 (9 years ago) Permalink
― ddb, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:37 (9 years ago) Permalink
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:38 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:38 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:39 (9 years ago) Permalink
"I had two CD's that came out in the last couple of months. One was this trio with William Hooker and Roger Miller on Atavistic, and another one that's just a duo of me and this young electronics kid from Toronto: we did a duo set up there. Stuff like that comes out when you have a live recording that sounds really good. And there's more stuff like that about to hit. I've got this other group that I play with called Text Of Light, an improvising quintet that weplay with old experimental avant-garde films. And it's Alan Licht, another guitar player from New York, and DJ Olive, or this other DJ, Christian, and either Hooker, or this other drummer Jim Bond. It's like a five piece, and the saxophone. We're having a CD that's coming out in May, and a couple of vinyl releases about to come out."
― Stewart Gardiner (Stewart Gardiner), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:40 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:44 (9 years ago) Permalink
Chuck Eddy was OTM 'way back when he opined that you'll never listen to it, but it's fun to look at. (Only reason I still have mine!)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:46 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:53 (9 years ago) Permalink
This is exactly why I no longer enjoy noise-the waves of condecension are so thick 'tis not even funny.
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:48 (9 years ago) Permalink
kekekeke.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
least usefull post ever. I'll look them up when I'm home, I've always been a big fan of Lee's and have enjoyed his solo stuff and am suprised to see no mention of Scriptures of the something or other.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:58 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:59 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:59 (9 years ago) Permalink
― chris andrews (fraew), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:01 (9 years ago) Permalink
totally agree on "Genetic," btw.
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:02 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:16 (9 years ago) Permalink
A solo record of songs was completed this summer and slated for realease early in 2012, with band contributions from Steve Shelley, Nels Cline, John Medeski, Alan Licht and Bob Bert.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Awww, Bob Bert. Where did this come from? Cool news, regardless.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lee-Ranaldo-Official/158711314207687
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
so fucking pumped for that
― some dude, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, why wait? Would listen to that right now. Really excited, though not sure what to expect. It does say "solo record of songs", but don't want to get my hopes up too much.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think in general the word on this record has been that it's going to be much more of a singer/songwriter deal than his previous solo joints. if people want to take a few months to set up a record they put a lot of work into i have no problem with that.
― some dude, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm seeing this thread title as a topic on maury
― goole, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
xpost: I get it, was kinda kidding cause I feel like this kind of record has been talked about (and anticipated) for a long time. Am cool with Lee making it as great as possible, if that is indeed what he is doing. Will actually buy it no matter what at this point, just to support Lee for all the joy he has brought me over the years.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Nels Cline being on it is some serious icing on the cake for me
― some dude, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seriously.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Could have thought of a better word than seriously, but shit yeah, fuckin A
― grandavis, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
summery
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
keep lee away from that faggot beat poetry shit.― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:33 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
:(
i bet i'd like this lee record? i always liked his sy songs. sy were my fave band in high school.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
would def like to see lee play in hoboken with Rhyton, cuz rhyton are a good band.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey, if it makes you feel any better, i don't think i've ever heard a lee ranaldo solo album.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 January 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
i got a LOT of stuff to listen to...
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 January 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm kind of in a record rut right now. not excited by stuff as much. enjoyed listening to 45s for a while tonight tho.
i'll hear the new lee record because [CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT] but i'm not expecting it to become a favorite record of mine or anything. idk. maybe i'll be surprised. liked but did not love thurston's latest lp.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 14 January 2012 03:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh i thought you said 'un-gaunt' like they were getting paunchy, nevermind
― some dude, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
all i can really look at in that pic is mascis. so great.
― tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
lee is live on wfmu right now!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey, thanks man. Just saw this and am tuning in now ...
― grandavis, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ranaldo sounding great on FMU. Always was my fave SY member.
― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, talking heads cover!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hah, awesome
― grandavis, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, missed most of it I guess. Gonna have to dig through the archives to hear the rest.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
listening to the album this morning -- not sure if it's a masterpiece, but it's damn good. pretty much exactly what i wanted to hear out of a "song-based" lee record. would love to see this band live.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Really harsh Pitchfork review for some reason, not sure what the point of it was. I'll bring a point up with Lee that I do with SY all the time: how many other 50-whatever-year-old musicians still trucking in rock music would deliver a better record than this? Not a REASON to put a record out, mind you, but on the scale of similar efforts to his peers, this Lee record is pretty great.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I thought that review was overly harsh as well.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
It represents a chance for Ranaldo to nab a headline without having to talk about Gordon and Moore's Facebook relationship status.blecch. annnnyway.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
what a terrible, terrible review.
― brokering (pimping) (stevie), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've said this before, and I'm probably just projecting on the writers here, but I sometimes get the feeling that they toss a harsh review at sacred cows like this just to sort of prove they aren't beholden to the canon or something.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Kinda got that impression with this one, especially in light of the stuff that guy typically reviews/covers, but I am on a non-cynicsm train in my life these days, and would prefer to just chalk it up to a "dude was not feeling this album at all" moment. Bummer of a lead review and all that, though. Plus, calling the solos "banal" was particularly rich. If any dudes deserve to own their sounds on a record at this point, Licht, Cline, and Ranaldo are high on that list.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, calling Ranaldo out for using a trick like supplying menacing guitar underneath a pretty finger-picked acoustic is also trying a little too hard, as again: didn't SY establish a whole range of variations on this idea? Why not just criticize him for making a guitar record?
― grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really like Grayson Currin's writing in general and find him to be quite thoughtful in general but this review is embarrassing. I'm not even enamored of the record, but this just misses the point so much. The Lee band, minus Steve, played the whole thing at Other Music in NY last night and it was mostly great, despite it being only their fourth or fifth show together. Lee and Alan's guitar interplay live is terrific to watch. Two songs I don't like on the album didn't open up for me live, though: "Fire Island (Phases)" and "Stranded." I think it's a lyrics things but they also felt musically clunky live. V. good album overall though and will make a point to revisit it throughout the year.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
"in general"
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
You know what, hearing the live version of "Lost" on that WFMU broadcast has totally won me over. Lee playing with a fluid, accomplished player like Licht totally changes the dynamic (not that I would trade it for prime SY mind you), there are some great exchanges going on. I am excited to see this band now, with a few more weeks of playing under their belts they could be pretty fucking great.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
most of the the other reviews aren't so postive too..
http://www.metacritic.com/music/between-the-times-and-the-tides/critic-reviews
― nostormo, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't really look at Metacritic, but took a peak now. Seems that 10 out of 12 reviews are "positive", giving it a score of 75 or something. Which doesn't mean anything other than that this batch of reviews generally state that it is a decent to good record (or something like that).
Out of curiosity, I looked at the Observer review, which was the other negative review. It was one paragraph long, most of which made no strong statements whatsoever (and seemed pretty positive actually), then the last sentence states that the record is sonically interesting but the lyrics not so much. All of which somehow added up to 2 out of 5 stars. Worthless review.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
the gently major-label "Wish Fulfillment"
― da croupier, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
finally sitting down to listen to this now, sounds good so far. is it the same personnel for the whole album or are there liner notes online somewhere that say who plays on what?
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
It is not the same personnel other than that I think Steve, Alan, and Lee are on every track. The bassist Irwin Menken plays on most of the songs, but apparently Jim O'Rourke plays bass on a song. Any keyboards are Medeski, so he is easy to pick out, and Nels Cline plays pedal steel (or lap?) and then some straight guitar, which is also pretty easy to pick out. Apparently Bob Bert is on there too. Obviously I did not look at a track-by-track list of who plays on what, and I am not sure that that is available yet, but the record is out now, so maybe Matador has it listed?
― grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
i was a bit disappointed with this record on first listen. will have to try again. :( i had hoped to be bowled over by it.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was expecting to be disappointed, I really wasn't moved by the first couple of songs that circulated (those live clips from the first show), so lowered expectations may have helped. It does make me wish he had done this in the 80s and 90s too though, as it has kinda convinced me that he may have pulled off some great shit without the SY modus operandi hanging over his songs. It makes me think that he may have a better record of this type in him as well, I hope he makes another.
― grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
What I like about this record is that it avoids the predictable guitar clashes of his work with Sonic Youth. I agree with the complaints about the lyrics, but other than that it's a very fine arranged and enjoyable record. The PF review is one of their worst. Today's review of the new O'Rourke/Ambarch/Heino cd is an example of how it should be: about the music.
― EvR, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
but the record is out now, so maybe Matador has it listed?
Picked up a physical copy yesterday, but unfortunately there is no track-by-track breakdown which is pretty annoying, imo, for a record with a varied cast like this
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
And yet there's Lee in the Brian Turner interview portion from his WFMU session Tuesday having rhapsodies about how nice it was back in the old days of the album as this magical unit of music-delivery, when you could sit down and read liner notes and look over personnel info and groove on cover art etc...lol.
― any major prude will tell you (WmC), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, that's too bad, but I do think you can pick out exactly who is playing what on each song, you just have to listen to them to figure it out. Seems like an odd thing to leave out of the liners though.
― grandavis, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah as a Nels Cline stan i had a similar frustration with an Eleni Mandell album he played on where the liners were not very specific as to what he played on but there were of course some tracks where it was obviously him
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like this better than the Thurston joint from last year!
― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^ me too.
Really loving this album.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah this is better than it has any right to be - pretty much confirms my feeling that I mainly stuck with SY for the Lee songs
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I read a couple of the negative reviews while listening to the first couple of tracks, and nearly bailed. I'm glad I didn't. This is a good album!
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 09:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
BBC review by Spencer Grady: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/reviews/6z5c
― EvR, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i Just. Don't. Get. people who can't write about this record without slighting SY's other work, etc, but i guess i'm pretty avowedly an SY fanboy by this point. this new lee album is thoroughly excellent, some of his best works, as was thurston's demolished thoughts, as was murray street, etc etc
― Nascar Pony (stevie), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
i preferred the thurston album. at least it had tunes whereas this is noodling along. thurston did evolve whereas lee just does not change at all. does the world really need this kind of stuff in the 2010s?
― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
what kind of stuff does the world really need? other than love, sweet love.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
I liked new Thurston and Lee both, though they're very different albums. Not the BEST by either, though.
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think maybe if Lee had given the Shelley/Cline/Licht ensemble a band name to credit the album under it would've gone down better as a Wild Flag-type supergroup thing
― Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lee Ranaldo & The Angels of Licht
― tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
just saw this: http://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/8797-lee-ranaldo/
― tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
fun article but i wish he'd been a little more personal and idiosyncratic with his selections, obviously Nevermind and Daydream Nation have personal significance for him but i dunno
― Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah not terribly surprising stuff in there. liked the anecdote about playing marquee moon in the lecture hall.
― tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Boring list, thought he'd stick a few more interesting albums for the 'guitarist' in there
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
And Pavement as favourite band of the 90s, jesus
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
the coda part of 'Fire Island' is lovely, wish it was the whole song
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:38 (7 months ago) Permalink