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i like "the bug" on rephlex. who else is making great experimental dub and/or dancehall right now?

― notfazed (notfazed), Saturday, 17 April 2004 22:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

This is great.

I bought it cuz of Strongo.

― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

ward 21 - u know how we roll

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

And there he is. It's like magic!

What's the Ward 21 all about?

― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's just their album from last year. all their big 2003 riddims. they're like the acceptably "experimental" face of straight dancehall.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

also all that german shit that zemko hates, like "pharoah" riddm.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

dj /rupture

― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

please talk more about german dancehall. it was mentioned as being on the new /rupture disc.

also check out Rhythm & Sound w/Tikiman. basic channel minimalist dub with an mc

― JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

I don't really understand how Ward 21 are more experimental than anyone else in dancehall (although Jess is right in that this *is* the general perception). Maybe their riddims were a couple of years ago but everyone's pretty much caught up.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

i liked this for two weeks, but then i got sick of it. funny how that happens.

― frankE, Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

the al-haca soundsystem record on different drummer from last year is pretty good. vapour trail dub w/toasters (eg sizzla)= kinda rhythm & sound-y

― mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah. are you typing english there? what the fuck does that mean?

― frankE, Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

fuck off frank

― mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 18 April 2004 07:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

notfazed, you could also track down ice and/or techno animal, which are kevin martin's pre-bug bands. techno animal tends toward a metallic dub-techno with lots of bass. ice more like an industrial dub mix; both ice albums and the last techno animal one have numerous guest rappers who, while good, don't quite inhabit the songs the way he got them to on "pressure." this means the sounds & noises are a bit more foregrounded though, so that's cool.

both get a parental E warning for el-p content, just fyi.

― rgeary (rgeary), Sunday, 18 April 2004 08:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

the split ep with the bug and dj rupture is also worth tracking down just for "imitator," another even noisier bug track with daddy freddy going bananas.

― rgeary (rgeary), Sunday, 18 April 2004 08:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Isn't the last Pole record "Basic Channel minimalist dub with an mc"? That one was terrible.

(Sorry JaXoN)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 18 April 2004 10:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

was it? i must have a listen.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 18 April 2004 10:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rhythm & Sound w/Tikiman

I think you are probably better off with the Burial Mixes as dub, but it is dub that's nothing like the Bug, but is excellent.

― ___ (___), Sunday, 18 April 2004 12:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Isn't the last Pole record "Basic Channel minimalist dub with an mc"?

no, it's not that at all (i wish it was). it's very much unlike his previous three albums which do have similarities to bc.

― tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 18 April 2004 12:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

rhythm & sound are pretty u+k if you ask me - there's a nice contrast between the bug's claustrophobia and freneticism and the space and float of r&s.

― tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 18 April 2004 12:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Isn't the last Pole record "Basic Channel minimalist dub with an mc"? That one was terrible.

(Sorry JaXoN)

why r u sorry?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

knifehandchop (not a lot on this site at the moment, but useful links) put out a killer track called "Bounty Killer Killer" last year.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Shit. I didn't notice the terrible pun until I clicked submit. 'pologies.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

i do reference tech-dub in my bug review, i think.

the 12" with cutty ranks is totally predictable and totally SLAMMING but sounds little like the album.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

for jaxon: http://www.germaica.net/

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 April 2004 19:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

jess, i did a lil googling yesterday and found that site (and it's linked to from soundquake.com. i noticed the riddims you guys mentioned (pharoah, electric riddim, etc). what's the beef? so i'm assuming there's a whole german scene (producers, mcs, etc)? is it just an authenticity issue?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 18 April 2004 20:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

beg pardon, er the german stuff comes under experimental now? because of what, dislocation? this is exactly what i meant when i thought its krauthall championers were more concerned with "mutation" and such. except it's not krauthall really, there's no especial stylistic diff, ranges from (quite sweet!) cure riddim to stoopid tech shockwave riddim (still hott, u gon learn! but this might not be german actually) mehness like pharoah to utter dreck like electric boogie. it's not distinct, it's ok, pretty average but how come this stuff always ends up with the bug and dj/rupture and wayne lonesome? when there's so much HEARTBURSTING GOLDEN AGE POP REALNESS out there at the same time seemingly ignored! fuck 'fuck u sign' too

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 21:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

paint me out as pedantic genre gatekeeper if that's all u got on me, it won't stick

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 21:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

There are some other 12" singles on Tigerbeat6's imprint Shockwave (with Soundmurderer, the Bug, /rupture--the only one I have and it's pretty good--and a couple of other people contributing riddims for Wayne Lonesome--mostly I think--to ride). I'd definitely recommend the Ward 21, Elephant Man and Vybz Kartel over almost everything mentioned so far (although I quite like the R&S Burial Mix collection, it's definitely more like the most quiet Bug tracks crossed with the quite nice roots vocals than anything dancehall-y.)

Also Jess is right the Gun Disease EP is currently the best Bug thing available (although there is some newer collection coming out on Rephlex which sounds like it might be quite nice, too.) I know next to nothing about German dancehall though (in fact I didn't know--and I can't imagine how it could be guessed--that any of the riddims fassy just mentioned weren't Jamaican in origin.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

I felt a shadow pass over the sun when I saw Rephlex referencing German dancehall. Dancehall comes from British and New York producers as well and is often k-great (ie. indistinguishable from quality Jamaican product - see Seani B's Spanish Fly Riddim obv!!!) but maybe that doesn't have the same sense of oddness as Germans doing it so that stuff doesn't receive the same level of attention.

This doesn't mean German dancehall isn't good (or bad or ugly or whatever) but it's one of those coincidences that will probably come back to haunt us (eg. who knew that when I spoke glowingly about Darqwan in '01 I was inadvertantly equating the best of 2-step with what would quickly become boring bludgeoning droning breaky dubstep crossover tedium??)

(although from the German dancehall stuff I've heard, calling it experimental is about as accurate as calling Bump & Flex experimental ie. it's kind of correct but only insofar as the *entire genre* of dancehall could be considered experimental (this ties into my thesis re Bump & Flex being the unintentional singular manifestation of 2-step's collectively morphing geist 98-01))

(crosspost with Alex in SF's last paragraph)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

alex there are record labels like germaican (e-boogie did have one with a german mc! it were odd) and sometimes there are telling strange tradewinds but yeah my point is sorta yours in that there's nothing in these tunes i can see that justifies experimentalist patronage. and well if they arent german, and/or no on knew then what kinda weird bad cherrypicking is that?!

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

(oops i'll switch on alert new messages)

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

cesar riddim was a good example of strange tradewinds, it came to odd shops, and that one was totally jamaican sorta so... it was still kinda good tho!

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha i just remembered how much i liked the first sensational lp! all bets is off!

― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

haha i never said that i thought the german stuff was any more "experimental" than the ward 21 i referenced above it, just commenting on the marketing aspects, re. indie-dub/dancehall. also, i am not stelfox.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 April 2004 22:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

i.e. don't get your panties in a wad

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

And if you have to wad your panties up please don't throw them out the window of a moving car on the freeway, okay.

― Short One Friend Because of THIS! (Alex in SF), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

strongo don't worry I didn't get that sense from your post. I don't think that stelfox would argue that german dancehall was more experimental either (although who can say what with the mysterious prima/stelfox beef vortex?). In a funny way it could just be a tyranny of persistance, like, if everyone keeps invoking german dancehall or a specific example of it the chances of it all going horribly wrong are amplified. Like Beatlejuice y'know.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

jess = hero 4 the ward 21 props. german dancehall can be good. it is notr more "experimental" (whatever the fuck that means re dancehall). germaican have been responsible for some good stuff that's worked "back ah yard" too. the german-jamaican axis is not completely divorced from what's going on in kingston and self-contained in any way (not that anyone's saying this), but i can't imagine something like the cure rhythm causing too much of a stir there 1) the references (don't think people will get that it's an interpolation of close to me) 2) it's not very good when you put it against lenky/vendetta productions. and they always have a good bunch of lady voicings on any of their rhythms. if you like the bug, try to get some stuff on the salt shaker rhythm its gutsy, electronic and sparse but (and this is the crucial difference between it and the bug) good! fyi, i detest everything kevin martin turns his hand to. he's a classic example of all things fassy *wrongly* projects onto rupture - "hey i'm making dancehall all edgy" fucking wally. white german mcs you can shove right up your arse, too. i mean, gentleman? i ask you...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

also jess, you never need to type "i am not stelfox" again. no one would ever confuse you with me. you are almost an entire foot taller.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

fassy, however dresses up as me at weekends.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 11:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

and i do have a feeling that volkanikman who guests on the interweb remix of brandy's turn it up (at the top of my chart right now) is both german and white. still the ersatz feel of his chatting works quite well here and he's not on the record long enough to get annoying. still think white dancehall deejays are a pretty wack idea in general, though.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

try - Tim Wright - The Ride (ft Toastie Taylor)

- scuzzy 2step with New Flesh emcees. I'm on the fence about this one, I expected alot from Tim Wright so I should love it, but it turns out I only like it. That said, there's some toasting mid-way thru that sounds like it's taken straight off the 'Grease' OST, but after Elephant's last album nothing's shocking.

Also check - KOOLPOP - a label I always listen to but never buy. And there are plenty of experimental 7"s kicking around in record shops but I've no idea what labels they were on.

white dancehall deejays are a pretty wack idea in general Er.. I can't agree with you on this but that's only in principle. I'd love to stick around and argue but I've really nothing to back up with.

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 19 April 2004 12:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

nick, i see you and raise you Snow!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

and what about sean paul? and elephant man? not to mention supa kat, lady saw!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

The last Venetian Snares album had a track called "Hand Throw" in a very similar vein as The Bug. I asked a similar question about this style of music a few months back and was generally ridiculed for it - god knows why as The Pressure is ruddy excellent.

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

and what about sean paul? and elephant man? not to mention supa kat, lady saw!

sterling are you saying these people are white or that people who like the bug shld check them?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

dave, I fold
I was gonna make some point about Yelloman but made the mistake of digging out Snow's - Informer 7" instead, thinking it can't have been that bad.

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

yellowman was albino - he does not count!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 19 April 2004 13:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

golly how am i supposed to come back. should i call yall a wack daft tosspot wally or something? tho it's true i am having trouble finding a wig quite like yours dave

recommending salt shaker to go with the bug seems a bit bizzaro disingenuous, but if youre drawing another better line wrt dancehall dislocations then i guess it's a thought yeah. i'm not sure i understand tho. but for good-bug-not-bug i'd heartily champ the new rat trap riddim, if that helps any. nor am i comfy with bug "classic example of all things fassy *wrongly* projects onto rupture - "hey i'm making dancehall all edgy" " (ps er do u really think that's all i meant when i criticized rupture?!), i think i'd leave it at him just having really bad bedroom headbanger gothmosh taste, he still sucks obv but that's not my point. tho perhaps that's just a backhanded way of saying i dont think k-mart is smart enough to be smug or whatever...

also again what's this about ward 21 being experimental?! yeah they tart up their riddims a bit but then so does elephant man, so do lots of mcs, and to much better effect i'd venture to argue. so are they experimental cos only half of their stuff comes off while everyone else's efforts are instant hotness (which then means it's Dancehall in General thats great and fab etc)

― prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 19 April 2004 23:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 25 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

bottom line: i am not going to recommend anything here that's **like** the bug, because i think the bug is rubbish. i will offer better alternatives. i do think ward 21 and tok are a little more edgy production-wise than a lot of other dancehall artists because of how they screw with the rhythms etc but disgree with calling them experimental. considering as how the genre is always trying new things, it all falls into that nonsensical pigeonhole for me. and if you want top call a stop to this fassy, i'd be very happy. it'#s fucking annoying and doesn't do anything for anyone.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 11:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

i wouldnt say this was a useless thread, far from it

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 11:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

the fact that i have hated everything kevin martin hase ever been involved with doesn't help the bug. i find he rountinely strips everything *good* out of every style he approaches, resulting in a similar dumb racket that in no way reinvents the genres in question. the result is always either totally irrelevant to me or just plain unpleasant.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 11:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

edgy/experimental aside you seem to give ward 21 more credit than others here, ie find their production more effective i assume, wanna do a list or something? i dont know if this is a taste thing or if i havent heard what you have

i dont deny that about the bug, but then he isn't putting kelis accapellas over it either is he

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 11:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

ha - i'm shite at remembering track names, always have been, pretty much have to have the record right in front of me when i write a review. happy to provide a list when i get home and can dig round. the quick answer is that i think the best thing is to listen to the ward 21 albums, to be honest, though. u know how we roll is their best. it's not even necessarily what they do with their rhythms, although the fact that they pay attention to what they do and are often not content to work over *exactly* the same rhythm as everyone else does seem to show a bit of willingness not to experiment per se, but to do something a little different to the rest. i don't think they're any more avant than any other good dancehall is, but they are certainly pretty quality conscious and bring the best out of the people they work with. they actually make good albums, which is a rarity in dancehall there's a great tension between the vocals of the crew. the hyperspeed maniacal chatter and kunley's molasses-thick, skunked-out baritone. because there's four of them often chatting different speeds over a rhythm, panning across the speakerfield you get a real sense of disorientation and a "wall of sound" feel from their stuff. these refined yet still challenging sonics are naturally more interesting to me than rasp, rasp, bosh, bosh headbang cod-euro-ragga. you also get to love ward 21 by listening to big chunks of them and them alone, that's why their albums work.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

havind said that, i like tok even more. the completely anarchic pop angle they have works better for me than anything else right now. i can't wait for their album.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

*nah we no beg friend nah we no beg friend*

― sorry, couldn't resist, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

re the kelis acapella thing, don't you think that's a bit more relevant than k-mart? at least it's music in conversation and whether you like it or not there's a bit of a conversation going on. with the bug, it's just totally redundant posturing and if you find rupture smug, i don't know what to make of martin's work: foolhardy, deluded, even arrogant, maybe?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

well exactly, and it's rupture's side of that conversation i have qualms about. it is relevant so it does matter. it wasnt v useful of me to bring k-mart into it on reflection, there are similarities but i find the bug harmless really. he's like mike from spaced

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

he's like mike from spaced

haha! i don't agree, but that's a great summation him all the same.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

and answering the question about realness etc, there is as you know a hella big crossover between hip-hop/r&b/dancehall in london, the major us cities and jamaica, too. i don't really see salt shaker as a mash-up at all when you bear in mind rhythms like snake, bollywood etc, plus the crossover w/ ele tok etc working w lil jon and so forth. it's real in the sense that it works in both scenes it draws from whereas the just bug wouldn't. imagine putting him on a proper bashment bill w/ renaissance or something, live. he'd get chsed off the stage, i should think. it bears no relevance to dancehall.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

i know that's not what he's necessarily trying to do and some people will say what does that matter (and i guess it doesn't in some ways), but it's a fact nonetheless.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

yip i agree. doesnt affect yr point at all but out of curiousity the salt shaker 7s are bootlegs tho arent they? i only picked up the capleton but it's his same chat as on rain drops riddim, and on the same label. yellow and red volcanoes, prettiest 7s of 04

― prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah they're kinda nice - i only got the tanya stephens one which is a vocal i've not heard, but i sort of presumed so. was really only a matter of time.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Bug might not work on a Bashment line-up any more than Prefuse 73 would go down too well in front of a Fiddy crowd, but to deny that he has any relationship to dancehall is pushing it a bit, wouldn't you say?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

not really... depends where your lines are drawn and mine are a bit before that. i'm no purist, but i don't think he has.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dave OTM re TOK and "anarchic pop" - great distillation there. BTW Dave I finally found Tanya's "Soft Inside" - great track! Up there with or even slightly better than the Chico version on that riddim (my favourite until now).

Maybe I'm just dense but you guys *are* talking about "saltshaker" as in the Ying Yang Twinz, right? Or something else?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's a kind of boot. i'd not heard the tanya voicing of it (the only one i own) over any other rhythm, but had a feeling it might be, then mr fassy kindly clarified. sounds good all the same.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

o there u go, voom voom's german isn't it?

― prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

you wrong, fassy, but will probably come close to pissing yrself laughing when i tell you they're swedish!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

voom voom is way better than anything i've heard out of germany... i'll just see if i can dig up a website for them or something

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah they're based in stockholm. http://www.topazrecords.com/

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Hi here is VolkanikMan from the interweb remix of Brandy's Turn it up :D !

Just wanted to say hello, coz I found that discussion here in Google ;)!

Bless

― VolkanikMan, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 07:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

aww!

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

The new album is really, really fucking good, the tracks with FlowDan on especially. It's kind of the perfect environment for his vocals - nice to see his verse on Bounce make a reappearance here.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Just noticed this thread is for everything that isn't the Bug. Ah well.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

london zoo is very good, but i have yet been able to handle it all in one sitting.

― mark e, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's dark and heavy but i don't think as forbidding or hard work as it's been made out to be. loving the flowdan and warrior queen tracks as expected but i think it's hard to beat tippa irie's performance on 'angry'

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

talking of warrior queen, check her cut on the heatwave's piano riddim, 'things change' <3

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

"prima fassy"

― am0n, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

One of the all-time great usernames that.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

'Skeng' comes up on my WMP list as 'Skene' which is sort of off-putting.

― NickB, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

perhaps my problem is that Angry is just so good, the rest of the album falls off afterwards.
admitedly i do need to dedicate more time to this album

― mark e, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

The new record is good, but it's not aggressive enough for me; I prefer the Killing Sound singles comp, billed to Razor X Productions (Kevin Martin w/the Rootsman).

― unperson, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

One of the all-time great usernames that.

^^^this

I need to hear this but for me, over time, The Bug seems to have turned into something that's best experienced live - I've always had a total blast whenever him and Warrior Queen have played out

― DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

so weird, the first time i saw them live was at a house party for NYE 04/05, i think i drunkenly told warrior queen how amazing she was for about half an hour

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

what else should someone who likes king midas sound seek out of kevin martins? any of his 90s stuff? or any other ambient dub/reggae from other artists? KMS is really lovely.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 20 November 2009 21:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's some similar-ish stuff on Pressure (the Roger Robinson, Paul St Hilaire tunes obv.) Obviously Rhythm & Sound. The Pulshar is really good IMO.

KMS on some influences:
http://kingmidassound.blogspot.com/2009/11/texture-tone-and-grain.html

― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 November 2009 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

ta. would have thought massive attacks work with horace myself too but i guess thats obvious.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 20 November 2009 22:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

We published an interview with King Midas Sound (Kevin Martin, Roger Robinson and Hitomi) today and he plays down the Massive Attack comparison saying they were probably listening to the same albums as the Wild Bunch used to listen to when they were recording. Full interview here.

I know this probably constitutes spam but we've got a micromix of the album done by Kode 9 as well, which I thought may be of interest to hyperdub fans.

― Doran, Saturday, 21 November 2009 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

hes prob right, but it doesnt stop them sounding a bit similar (in a v good way).

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 21 November 2009 09:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

"the difference between us and Tricky is that for one, Roger sings"

i think its more that hitomi has a presence like martina that create the tricky comparisons

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 21 November 2009 09:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://www.factmagazine.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4031&Itemid=98

Nice.

― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 November 2009 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Anyone happen to have the King Midas Sound FACT mix archived...?

― Sensational Howard (admrl), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 01:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

anyone like the new ep, infected? i dig the reworkings of the two songs from london zoo.

interesting interview of him (by dj/rupture) in some journal called bomb magazine.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 January 2011 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm more interested in the adrian sherwood collaborations that are due out sometime.

― mark e, Monday, 17 January 2011 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Acid Ragga is pretty great yes?

― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:42 (7 months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWZqka5tqY

― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:42 (7 months ago) Permalink

― r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2012 11:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

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