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this is a question directed towards pinefox especially. lloyd cole is one of my favourites but nevertheless which album is the one you would need on a desert island. rattlesnakes, don't get weird on me? tell us why we should still listen to mr cole pinefox. the smiths were much better at this weren't they?

alex in mainhattan, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I saw a copy of Easy Pieces for 99 cents this week. Since I like everything else I've heard that Pinefox raves about (i.e. the Smiths and MBV), I held in my hands for a while, very tempted even though I've never heard LC. But it was hideous-looking so I didn't.

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 25 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sundar, "Easy Pieces" would be another contender for best album of Lloyd Cole. 99 cents. You must be really poor not to have bought it.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm trying to get the Pinefox to write an article telling us exactly this (and other things) for Freaky Trigger, so hopefully he won't be too prolix here ;)

If I had to pick one it would be "Easy Pieces" actually.

Tom, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Commotions best-of is good. After that, the first solo album.

Mark, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

First, thanks to Dr Mainhattan for his request, and for taking an interest. And props to Sundar for his nicens words too.

For me, it comes down to Rattlesnakes vs X (aka Lloyd Cole, aka the first solo LP). The choice is difficult - the first has a swet, garrulous naiveté, the second has a weatherbeaten Classic Rock stubbly soaraway clichéd live-in-studio-ish spontaneity, a sudden overflow (13 songs) of invention, attempts to sound hard ('Sweetheart', 'Mercy // Killing') mixed with effortless sweetness ('Loveless', 'Undressed'). Both are crucial and reflect different aspects of Lloyd. I could go on about others too (Weird on Me, yes; Easy Pieces? I don't think so), but that would quite defeat the object of the question (which was 'desert island disc' stuff).

The broader question - why should we (someone, anyone) listen to LC? - I am still keen to try to answer in the way Tom E suggests, so will not go into it further here, maybe. (Whatever I might say, I wouldn't expect to convince most of the world to listen to Lloyd; only to explain, perhaps, why I still like him.)

Actually, let me answer the question definitively, from my POV: despite the crucial importance of the debut, X (1990) is the one.

the pinefox, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

swet = *sweet*.

the pinefox, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shurely Mr Pinefox has already written said article, way back in papercuts #2? Admittedly, repeating the article word for word would be an ironic, nay Menardian, comment on Mr Cole's career of the last ten years.

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh, my *goodness*!!

the pinefox, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

First, thanks to Dr Mainhattan for his request Thank you Prof. Pinefox for the Dr. But I would like you to omit the Dr next time as it makes me feel like an unintentional impostor. I have studied at university that is true but that is it.
It is funny the self-titled solo record is the only album by Lloyd Cole I do not own.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 26 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
REVIVE

easy pieces, by a mile, for me. I find Rattlesnakes a little too self-conscious, and he never quite had the same hooks after this one.

Favourite song "why I love country music".

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Lloyd is pwerforming soon - somewhere. Is it Windsor? I will have a look.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. It is a tad pricey though:

Saturday, August 12 at 11:00 PM
Svengalifest presents Svengalifest featuring Lloyd Cole / Lorraine / Jah Wobble / James Lavelle / Levellers / Hayseed Dixie / Alabama 3 / South / Don Letts / Go Kart Mozart / Unkle Bob / Syrus / June / Raising Sand / Loki / Self Esteem / Epeestriday / Subdue
at Royal Windsor Race Course, England - South
£60.00-£100.00

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Have I left the bold on?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

No.


Phew!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"Easy Pieces" for me as well, wish I could ever find this on CD, my 20-year-old cassette is ROTTING

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I found it in The Works Bookseller one day for about 3 quid. Sadly, I was going through a disowning-all-my-old-music phase and didn't purchase. Never seen it for 3 quid since. This is the only pre-recorded cassette I still bother to play.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the first three albums, used to like them a lot.

Now I look at the albums and wonder why.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Although I will always love "Forest Fire"

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I got hold of My Bag 12" just recently. It's so nice.

Makrugaik (makrugaik), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The 1990 eponymous album has many minor delights, as well as the major one of listening to a backing band (Robert Quine, Fred Maher, Matthew Sweet) more compelling than Cole himself sinking their teeth into the material.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

My favorite was always Mainstream, actually, which seems to get eschewed by most of the Lloyd faithful. B-b-but "My Bag"! "Jennifer She Said"! "Sean Penn Blues"!

Actually, I need to just get the best-of - though dear Lord, he/they deserve a nicely remastered one, maybe 2 discs? - and the Deluxe Edition import of Rattlesnakes.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Mainstream is clearly the best one by a mile.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

"I hope you don't mind. I got drunk last night and did your taxes."

http://www.border.se/Press/Lloyd%20Cole/Lloyd%20Cole7.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I like Mainstream best too, even now that "29" is behind me.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, he's looking much more hot these days!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 19:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I still listen to everything up to the Negatives, but
Easy Pieces with X close second
I finally found it thru GEMM. Nice Australian seller promised to play it first to guarantee condition. $15US (previous month it had hit $40 on ebay and it looks like there's one on Amazon for $70)

the higgs, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

His last couple of albums have been really weak compared to the rest of his catalogue. I think The Negatives is tremendous and shows how much better he is when working with a real band.

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

And _Bad Vibes_ is THE example of an artist trying to stretch beyond their borders and failing spectacularly. And yet I think it's great but I recognize the lameness of much of it.

Mr. Odd, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Which is more lame, Bad Vibes or the "with strings" side of Don't Get Weird on Me, Babe?

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 23:23 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

free rough mixes here:
http://www.lloydcole.com/rough/

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Ongoing, apparently, so bookmark it.

Favourite song "why I love country music".

-- hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 12:25 (1 year ago) Link

OTM. Love the fact that the title results from the lyrics, rather than coming from a chorus.

Hard to pick a favorite disc from his catalog. Figuring that one listen would spark much further interest, I'd start with The Collection and branch from there. But if forced to just take one, I'd go for Rattlesnakes, by a narrow margin.

scampering alpaca, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

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Out in the UK on September 28, 2010.

Acclaimed singer-songwriter Lloyd Cole plans to release Broken Record — the former Commotions leader’s first full-band album in a decade — this September, and reports that he’s “happy we got these songs finished because I’m not sure I’ll make another record like this again.”

The 11-track album, Cole’s first since 2006’s Antidepressant, finds the musician ending his “self-imposed exile as a would-be folksinger,” according to a note posted along with samples of three of the album’s songs (”Oh Genevieve,” “Like a Broken Record” and “Winters Retreat”) on the Tapete Records website.

Cole enlisted the members of his “baby bluegrass band,” the Small Ensemble, as well as Joan Wasser, aka Joan as Police Woman, and ex-Commotion Blair Cowan. The project is being funded, in part, by 1,000 fans who paid $45 for the deluxe edition of the album before it was even recorded (they’ll get a second disc with 15 outtakes).

The experience of working with a band again, Cole writes, was “rewarding, perplexing, fabulously enjoyable and heinously stressful.” He adds that, “Singing with a rock and roll band in the studio I felt exactly as I did in 1987 or 1995, and then I would see my reflection in the glass of the gobo and wonder who this old guy was…”

Cole is planning to do press for the album in Europe in July and September and play solo dates during those trips; he’s also working to schedule a European tour with the Small Ensemble in October and November, plus he’s tentatively planning to play shows throughout the U.S. and Australia/New Zealand in early 2011.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Like A Broken Record
2. Writers Retreat!
3. The Flipside
4. Why In The World?
5. Westchester County Jail
6. If I Were A Song
7. That's Alright
8. Oh Genevieve
9. Man Overboard
10. Rhinestones
11. Double Happiness

Bee OK, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Will be interested to hear this, I love Lloyd with a band. Less convinced by him solo. 1995's Love Story was very nearly the best thing he's ever done.

Nice cover too. The 49 is probably a reference to his age.

margana (anagram), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 07:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone else heard this yet? I love it, very much a classic Lloyd-plus-band album. Some winning wig-outs and a few wistful ballads. His voice is in great shape. If this is really the last band album he ever does, it's a great way to go out.

margana (anagram), Sunday, 24 October 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"Broken Record" is the best thing he's done since "The Negatives". He really needs a band to work with, his two strictly solo records are bland. I hope he doesn't return to that mode of recording.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 24 October 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Lloyd Cole's Twitter has blown up with the news that he no longer poaches eggs but sautes them in butter
.

I am now a world class egg cook. It's taken a while, but I could work in a French brasserie, now. My secrets? ask me anything. Hint - there's no need to poach an egg, ever, unless your allergic to butter.

— Lloyd Cole (@Lloyd_Cole) September 27, 2019

Dan Worsley, Friday, 27 September 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

Lloyd … Cole … rendered "you're" as "your"?
* world disintegrates *

Vast Halo, Friday, 27 September 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

Was going to say ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 September 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

He’s one of the ppl I regret following on Twitter bc I thought he was a lot more interesting before I saw the many boring things he shares via that website.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 September 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link

looks like a bad kisser too

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link


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