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does ILM like fugazi?

as, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am not ILM but I LOVE Fugazi. Although I should add that I like'em more on stage than on record.

nathalie, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

iain mackaye = first american rocker i evah saw weariong big shorts = somewhat dud therefore

mark s, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

share name with Marillion album = they are dud

m jemmeson, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nice to know the answers so far are so insightful. Sheesh. We already covered Fugazi in Classic or Dud once. As for the new album, I didn't even know it was coming, let alone out (ever since I traded in being a record store manager for a writer, more releases have been sneaking up on me--I feel so out of touch). I'll be getting it after work today, so may have some comments first thing tomorrow.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

New album (The Argument) = fantastically good--actually my personal favorite of theirs to date, I think (though I'm sure a lot of people will still prefer Repeater). New single = not quite so good as that, but entertaining. They're still locked in at the sockets, but the beams are a little more flexible, if you see what I mean.

Douglas Wolk, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like "Merchandise" and "Margin Walker" but usually can't stand Fugazi live or on record. Ian MacKaye is the biggest hippie I've ever talked to; I half expected him to start talking about a recent voyage to Tibet. Whoever's their singer is one of the worst vocalists ever. Minor Threat was awesome, though.

Kris, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't like it as much as Red Medicine, which is my favorite album of theirs, but liking it that much would take a lot of listening. It's very very good though; I'm much more pleased with it than I was with End Hits.

Josh, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

yes, red medicine is by far their best album and will be difficult to top. i've only had the argument for a few days and i'm still trying to register it cos i'm looking for a sound that doesn't seem to be present in this cd. but that doesn't mean i don't like it...yet. also life and limb totally rocks.

ernest, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Okay. I've now had a chance to listen to it several times over, and I quite like most of it, though I've noticed something slightly disturbing. I like the fact that they're actually trying to sing instead of hollering their way through every single line, and the harmonies are actually fairly good, and their singing voices are better than they have any right to be. But sometimes it reminds me vaguely of the Police or Love and Rockets. Not that it's necessarily bad, it's just...jarring.

Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
This bump (where's the post?) got my hopes up...

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 14 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

man...i dunno...that punk planet evens cover interview pretty much killed my hope, fugazi seemed so "past tense" in that interview...

...still...i think the argument is probably their best album, and would be a great conclusion....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked The Argument a lot, and it sort of felt like a mellowing-out album (like In Through The Out Door, maybe?) Perhaps it is best that they quit while they were ahead. My understanding is that at least Joe and Brendan are dads now and devoted more to their families. I know Ian has the Evens thing, and I'm sure he's also busy preserving/promoting the Dischord legacy. It's possible that these guys could squeeze out another good album (they don't have a bad one yet), but maybe not.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Joe and his family are living in the Los Angeles area these days. Brendan has been performing with Bob Mould recently.

curmudgeon (Steve K), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Fugazi. Fucking. Owns.

nancyboy (nancyboy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

i used to think it was the pick of their catalog, but now i think the sound of it didn't age well. something about it is too serious and "mature".
i prefer Red Medicine or Kill Taker, which are rawer,dirtier and less calculated.

nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

more real?

moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

don't get me wrong, i like The Argument, but it's maybe just a little too "arty" for me.epic problem.

nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

not real enough

moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

epic problem owns

turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it does

nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

All the tracks with prominent double drum kits are amazing. Just played this through my serious headphone rig for probably the first time and it was amazing. Proper spellbinding.

i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

I was just thinking about how hard End Hits rocks. Must listen to The Argument again.

owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

Although I'd probably chop the last couple songs off it and Arpeggiator goes on just a tiny bit too long

owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

the argument rules as do all fugazi albums

mh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

Eh, I think End Hits and Argument are patchy enough.

The aggressive stuff is good, but some of the other stuff...take or leave it.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

In On The Kill Taker, for example, is vastly superior.

And its more subdued tracks like Sweet and Low is much better than any of the last two's examples.

Master of Treacle, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

IOTKT might be my fave

Still S.M.D.H. ft. (will), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

I was just appreciating Canty on "Recap Modotti" this morning.

bentelec, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link

smh @ "vastly superior," one of the most even discographies ever quality-wise

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

end hits kicks ass up and down the block just like kill taker

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

I feel like End Hits works so well because it gets the ratio between payoffs and proper 'moments' and left turns so right. I think Fugazi work best when they're not left to meander.

owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

There's some real 'Rock music' cliches in there, like the 'Hey man do the riff but this time without the bass for a couple measures'. Then throwing in a red herring at exactly the right times to make those moments more worthwhile.

owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

it's also full of other 'Rock music' cliches such as guitars and singing

del griffith, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

new fugazi leaked

am0n, Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

restart steam

turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the stature The Argument has over End Hits is so unjust imo

fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, just because it's better is no reason to ... oh, wait.

What I love about "End Hits" is, as the least accessible/immediate Fugazi, it still holds all these neat surprises, which is such a nice thing to have from a band that likely will never record again. So, sure, I listen to it less than all of the other ones, but it's the only one I listen to that, because I'm not as familiar with it front to back, still surprises me with each listen.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's got nooks and crannies

some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link

new fugazi leaked

― am0n, Friday, January 25, 2013 7:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ILM should pre-cover it, even though it's not real

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Saturday, 26 January 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

i never really gelled to end hits and the argument. you could argue that steady diet is fugazi's most subpar record and i'd probably agree but the high points (reclamation, dear justice letter, long division, latin roots) are soooooo much better than anything from their last 2 albums. accusing a band of sounding a little too derivative of themselves is kinda foolish but i feel that way about their latest stuff. maybe it has to do with the fact i listened to fugazi basically in chronological order, i don't know.

cock chirea, Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

I find that middle section of End Hits drags really badly....Floating Boy, Closed Captioned et al..I appreciate the effort but to me each song isn't compelling enough.

I think concise/focused Fugazi is their strongest suit...working 'experiment' elements to that is good (IOTKT, Red Medicine), but to me the focus drops too often on the last two.

I don't think their late-period meandering is their strongest point.

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link

How anyone can say End Hits kicks an equal amount of ass as Kill Taker...I dunno, we'll probably always disagree there.

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link

This could be a 1990-1995 vs. 1996-2000 argument too...in terms of how many Fugazi-type bands and peers turned the guitars down/experimented a bit

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link

xp I love End Hits as much as Kill Taker, maybe more. Rocks as hard (or harder), takes more chances.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 January 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

End Hits and Kill Taker are my two favourites but Brad is right, there aren't any bad Fugazi albums.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 27 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing on "End Hits" rocks as hard as the first two songs on "Kill Taker" alone.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

yeah there's not a single fugazi album i don't at least (at least!) like a lot, but in terms of "rocking hard" kill taker is pretty much the peak.

let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

they're all kinda doing different things, and there are certainly hard-rocking moments on all of them, but just in terms of songwriting/approach, there's probably a reason they went to albini for the first version of kill taker.

let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

is Steady Diet generally perceived to be "subpar"? my copy was stolen (along with the bulk of all my other CDs) in college and somehow I've never replaced it. but I remember it fondly.

actually, at the time i think Repeater got the least amount of play by me of any of the first four (counting 13 Songs as one of those "four" btw)

Still S.M.D.H. ft. (will), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

"Steady Diet" I think threw people off for being relatively chill and polished after "Repeater," which is such a raw disc (esp. compared to the EPs).

Albini I seem to recall at one point claimed the only two bands he would produce for free were Fugazi and I want to say Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet (!). Both of whom he eventually produced, the Fugazi getting scrapped and the Shadowy Men ("Sport Fishin'") not so hot.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing on "End Hits" rocks as hard as the first two songs on "Kill Taker" alone.

"five corporations"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

Steady Diet is unfairly maligned - it is only the "worst" Fugazi album because their bar is so high. There are so many classics on that record. I think its worst offense is its pacing - it's the only album that so rigidly switches between Ian songs and Guy songs, back and forth, back and forth. It seems to ignore a track listing that might lean more on the flow of the songs themselves rather than this weird democratic conch shell hand off.

I wrote about the Argument a few months ago - the one Fugazi album I'd never heard all the way through until just recently.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

i h8 end hits, def their worst

am0n, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2014/08/11/new-fugazi-music-well-very-old-fugazi-music/

First Demo (from 1988) coming out this winter

curmudgeon, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link

i h8 end hits, def their worst

― am0n, Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

boo

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Tracklist: 1) Waiting Room 2) Merchandise 3) Furniture 4) Song #1 5) The Word
6) Bad Mouth 7) Break-In 8) Turn Off Your Guns 9) And the Same 10) In Defense of Humans 11) Joe #1

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link


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