Search And Destroy: Afghan Whigs

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BECAUSE SOMEBODY DEMANDED IT! Farewell Afghan Whigs. And as the ever-estimable Pinefox mentioned somewhere else, can we limit it to ONE thing searched and one destroyed (thing = album, single, track, tour, whatever unit of musical currency takes yer fancy).

Oh yeah, and let's tighten things up even more. If you're going to answer S you have to answer D, and vice versa.

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: "My Curse," with Marcy Mays from Scrawl doing the vocals. Lurvly.

Destroy: Greg Dulli's face fungus. Okay, fine, it's not *musical*, Tom, but as you've argued yourself, image is just as much a part of the situation, is it not? ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: their cover of the Ass Pony's "Mr Superlove" on the B-side of the Gentleman CD single. All your usual Whigs-tastic mayhem, but with BANJOS too!!

Destroy: 1965. Just 'cos.

― alex thomson, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Are you *really* saying that the Afghan Whigs have never recorded a bad song? ;)

Anyway. Search: The first side of '1965' - the sleekest rock they ever made but somehow the sexiest too.

Destroy - the second side of '1965' - a sudden descent into Primal Scream style Southern kitsch.

― Tom, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

they were quite funny live, all those monologues and stuff. I never really liked the cover of Gentlemen, a little creppy, but who am I to stand in the way of artistic expression?. bye!

― jel, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

creepy even!

― jel, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

You said something to destroy, Tom -- fine, I want *that* destroyed. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Gentleman (duh). Destroy: 1965. I still think they were the Blues Brothers on the last couple tours.

― Andy, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Big Top Halloween (they've done themselves a big disservice over the years by not reissuing this).

Destroy: All of 1965 *except* "Omerta/Vampire Lanois."

― J.Lu, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search and Destroy - what a great format!

Search: Bootleg copy of a CONGREGATION-era show I saw where Greg Dulli returns to the stage during Teenage Fanclub's set to put the lead vocals on TFC's "Everything Flows". Or was it "The Concept"...? I was in such bliss maybe I blacked out...

Destroy: A lot of BLACK LOVE. A few great songs but...

― Tim Baier, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Uptown Avondale, "Be Sweet", "Lost in the Supermarket"

Destroy: Most of Up in it & Congregation; second side of 1965 (but only because the album would be absolutely perfect without it; as it is, it's still pretty good); fat, drunken, bar-fighting Greg Dulli

― larmey, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search - "Milez iz ded" (dont forget the alcohol oh baby) Destroy - erm...

― simon, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

I just don't understand the acclaim for the Afghan Whigs. (Terrible name, by the way) The supposed soul influence just doesn't come through. How the hell does a few soft-porn lyrics and the occasional 'I wanna take you higher, girl' slapped on top of a grunge-ordinaire sludge equate to 'soul'? "Hey let's get a clavinet in, cos Stevie Wonder used to play one of those. Don't want it too high in the mix though".

'Gentlemen' - dire and tuneless - Destroy. 'Black Love' - little better. '1965' - the best of a bad lot. Search for "Uptown Again"

Yeah, I know there's other, earlier stuff that I haven't heard. Yeah, I know there's an EP of, no surely not, SOUL COVERS! Who cares.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Word Dr.C! They were shite, although you could search for the very funny NME interview with Dulli on his drug-exploits while skiing.

― Omar, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

search: 'miles iz ded'/'rebirth of the cool.'

destroy: i really didn't like that twilight singers record all that much, with the exception of the first track. can that count?

(hey, you want the blues brothers, by the way, you should listen to the first track off the delta 72's '000.')

― maura, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Search: Gentlemen. I didn't like the album at first, but it ages like wine. Search: Antoher band as unique as the Whigs...do they fit snugly into any genre? Destroy: whatever made them break up...now Generation X is up shit creek musically. Cobain's dead, STP sucks now, Pearl Jam finds a way to suck harder with every new record, and nothing on 120 minutes keeps me interested anymore. Fuck....

― Antoine harris, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Revive.

Only because after giving it some time, and many listens, I realize 1965 is a brilliant record. It's hard to get passed the production, which is so sleek it cuts them off, but I love the songs, and the guitar work and vocals are amazing.

― David Allen, Saturday, 8 November 2003 05:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Search: their cover of "Creep" by TLC. Dulli knew how to pick a cover that suited his voice and sensibility perfectly.

Destroy: Black Love. A meandering, hookless soup of despair.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

And yes, 1965 is underrated, especially on this thread.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 06:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

1965 is fantabulous. Absolutely dripping in smut.

― Nick H, Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

Destroy: Black Love. A meandering, hookless soup of despair.

It's many things, Black Love is -- but "hookless" isn't one of them.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 8 November 2003 16:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Search: 1965
Destroy: Gentlemen, which put me off them for a long time.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 8 November 2003 17:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Search: their cover of "Creep" by TLC. Dulli knew how to pick a cover that suited his voice and sensibility perfectly.

Definitely, see their "Lost In the Supermarket", too.

-Colin

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 8 November 2003 17:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah that Lost In The Supermarket cover is ace! Which is especially funny cuz basically everything else on that Clash tribute album is horrible.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh, I think in hindsight I only like "Congregation" and "Uptown Avondale".

― jel -- (jel), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

search: the major label albums (especially the two on Elektra), the first Twilight Singers album, "I'm Her Slave," "Milez Is Ded," "Conjure Me," "Turn On The Water," the actual covers on Uptown Avondale, the covers of "Miss World," "Creep," "Lost In The Supermarket," "Mr. Superlove," the Skip Spence cover.

destroy: that horrific remix of "Milez Is Ded" called "Rebirth Of The Cool" on Uptown, the songs on Congregation I didn't search (ESPECIALLY "The Temple"), the second Twilight Singers album (though a stray great track might reveal itself to me later), and if we could bleep out the bullshit references to the devil from all tracks that'd be great.

I haven't heard anything before Congregation.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's many things, Black Love is -- but "hookless" isn't one of them.

Oh, no! It's the Strokes argument all over again!

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 November 2003 18:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

So, Twilight Singers tonight.

Dulli sounded great, his band sounded great--and not unlike the Whigs at all. There's something about when he's playing (and I use that term loosely, because while he had a guitar strapped on, I'm not convinced that it was actually plugged in) that no matter what he quotes or plays (a Kate Bush song, A Love Supreme, etc.) it seems like music was absolutely meant to sound exactly this way and no other.

On the other hand, he rambled more than I remember--no one to rein him in, I guess. And he made a long, convoluted (I guess) tribute to Elliott Smith which was frankly awful. If he was your friend, fine, play a song and shut the fuck up--it's not something I want to hear him use in his Mr Superlove shtick.

So same old, I guess--way over the top, not someone I wanna be friends with, fucking sounded great. But not as good as the Whigs.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

Greg Dulli - is the fact that he's an asshole redeemed by the fact that his songs are about the fact that he's an asshole?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoa. too many facts in that sentence.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 06:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Mookieproof -- where were you in the Cat tonight? I was up front on the left with some friends of mine.

Also, did you stay for the second encore?

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 15 November 2003 07:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like the 2nd Twilight album. Whoever reviewed it as "pomp rock" was dead on. I am seeing him Monday night. My first Dulli encounter.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 15 November 2003 08:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Whoever reviewed it as "pomp rock" was dead on.

Last night Dulli praised The Darkness. And I so wished I had my cigarette lighter when they played "Faded."

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 15 November 2003 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

I keep meaning to give the second TS album another try but I think the problem is I like the original so much, that I'm disappointed he didn't head further into that direction. Black Love (esp. "Faded" and "Bulletproof") is the awesome god of pomp.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 November 2003 19:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was kind of hoping for more R&B flavor. (What I especially love about 'Clyde' on the 1st album is that as soon as that beat starts up, people will look at you like you put on a porno.) The low point of the Blackberry Belle has to be the 'dark side of the moon' ending with the woman screeching. Ick.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 15 November 2003 21:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

This is probably one of the more on the pipe things I could say but I think that Justin Timberlake would KILL to make an album like the first Twilight Singers album. He'd be all "oooh I actually sound like an adult!"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 November 2003 21:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Guh.... that was the best show I have been to in like 5 years. Whigs songs "66" "Uptown Again" "If I Were Going" which was more a crowd sing-a-long. Covers "purple rain" "hey ya" some fleetwood mac. Dulli babbled a ton. I was front and center. So so good.

― bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 07:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

I finally got around to buying an Afghan Whigs album (though actually I used to have Gentleman on tape a long time ago), since apparently I resemble Dulli (hopefully in his younger, hottter days). I bought Black Love because it was used. Pretty good. More dramatic than what I usually listen to, but pretty good. Need to listen to it more.

― NA (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

i went to an afghan whigs show about 3-4 years ago and don't remember one lick of what they played. damn little barrells of Mickeys will do that to ya.

― Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

Search: Black Love - as a fairly clueless young music fan I bought this without having heard anything by the band... I've never regretted it and keep coming back to it - compare that to all the albums I bought only to find that the single I already had was the only good thing on it or that the band I thought I loved had lost it... "Hookless" = you are on crack.

Destroy: my current financial state which means I have no idea when I can get hold of the new Twilight Singers album.

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 13:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Greg Dulli - is the fact that he's an asshole redeemed by the fact that his songs are about the fact that he's an asshole?

I think it's an act, the whole asshole thing. I think he's a nice er gentleman.

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 15:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hey j.lu--

Yeah, I was there, but had to leave early (i.e. 1:15) due to some, er, relationship issues. So I missed the encores. :(

See, the problem with these late shows is that it gives you way too much time to drink beforehand...

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 16:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard their cover of "If only I had a heart"? Fantastic.

― Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 16:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Congregation
Gentlemen

― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

about 10 years ago, they put this really great song "delta kong" on selected german versions of the "come on the water" single.

there's a crappy mp3 floating around on soulseek.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard their cover of "If only I had a heart"? Fantastic.

Among the reasons the Whigs never had a big crossover hit: most of their best songs wound up as import CD single b-sides.

― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Back together!? (for four tracks on a forthcoming compilation, but hey)

http://www.summerskiss.com/category/news/

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Oh. Sorry.

Search: everything between their first and last albums.
Destroy: their first and last albums.

― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Maybe it wasn't their best album but I don't think there was anything wrong with 1965.
Congregation to 1965 was a fine run of albums.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:02 (6 years ago) Permalink

As I've said on other threads, "Gentlemen" is THE best break-up album ever, full stop.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 22:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

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Gentleman is a quite a good record. It has aged very well.

― earlnash, Thursday, 27 January 2011 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

it has about three or four very good songs. and the rest is a mess. i can't work out whether it's an appealing mess or not.

― charlie h, Friday, 28 January 2011 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

REVIVE FOR RETURN OF WHIGS (i think the revive thread was on the sandbox)

Hyssop...in my perfume?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

is it just coachella or a full tour?

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

...OR A TOUR AND ALBUM HUSH

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

they're not doing Coachella.

So far they're doing our shows in London and Asbury Park plus Primavera in Barcelona and Porto.

Cannot WAIT.

― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Supported by Archers Of Loaf!

― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's an ATP in London in May, then Dulli curating one in New Jersey in September

― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

oops xpost

― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry, mixed up huge-festivals-i'd-never-do

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

no separate tour tho?

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haven't heard about one yet.
I wouldn't say we're huge though.

ATP = approx 5000 people. Coachella = 90,000.

― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder if they'll play a Faith No More and barely play the U.S.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 January 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

weren't FNM always bigger in europe anyway? I'm not too surprised that they mainly only played biggish european shows.

― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

they have too many fans in the US to not tour here too

― La Lechera, Friday, 13 January 2012 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

http://www.boweryballroom.com/event/120623

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Curley!

"It will be nice to experience the Whigs again as a grown-up," jokes Curley. "In my mind, the Whigs were a live band above anything else. Playing shows always was our favorite part about being in the band, and the times when we felt the most freedom and release. I missed playing at that level; I missed playing the songs that we wrote, that meant so much to people - and to us."

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really hope they tour

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do too but I'm grouchy about Lollapalooza and their stupid 100 mi clause (or w/e it was called) because that means I am going to have to travel to see them because I sure don't want to go to gross Lollapalooza.

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I told myself I'd buy a Lolla ticket for the day if they were on the same day as Black Sabbath. They are, so I go tone. Also Black Keys, Black Angels and Tame Impala.

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, yeah Sabbath + Whigs is mighty tempting, but the vibe there is so overwhelmingly AWFUL that I don't know if I can stomach it!

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

I told myself I'd buy a Lolla ticket for the day if they were on the same day as Black Sabbath.

Same, though haven't done it yet. Of course, Friday is sold out...

Whigs live were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. I'm worried they'll pull a Faith No More and play Lolla then nothing else in America.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait is it Whigs + Eagles Of Death Metal or Whigs + Joseph Arthur (whose bio is posted under the Whigs')? Far more interested in the former, though I'm guessing these tickets will go in five seconds.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

EoDM site is promoting the show, so maybe Arthur backed out?

― da croupier, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

never mind, I'm an idiot. With Arthur in May, with EoDM in October.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Whigs live were one of the best live bands I've ever seen. I'm worried they'll pull a Faith No More and play Lolla then nothing else in America.

They already have other gigs booked in America - one of the first two announced in the reunion was American. I'm sure they'll play a proper NA tour once they've run out of festivals around the world.

They're playing one of their only club shows on the tour so far a whopping 12 minutes walk from my bedroom, such a pain in the balls that'll be :D

(they've never come to this country before though so)

― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

your balls must hurt really badly :-/
(congratulations btw, you will enjoy the show guaranteed)

― former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Review and set list here:
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/backstage-pass-1.811987/afghan-whigs-amazing-reunion-at-bowery-ballroom-1.3738193

― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 May 2012 20:27 (11 months ago) Permalink

live now! http://www.youtube.com/user/PrimaveraSoundTV

― just sayin, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:44 (11 months ago) Permalink

YES

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:47 (11 months ago) Permalink

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:47 (11 months ago) Permalink

lol i always thought the opening to fountain and fairfax was "angel, i'm so AFRAID"

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:56 (11 months ago) Permalink

how old is greg?? looks pretty fucking good

― just sayin, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:58 (11 months ago) Permalink

they all do even curley

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 18:59 (11 months ago) Permalink

WWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:11 (11 months ago) Permalink

greg pulled a 'nigga' to people still care?

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:16 (11 months ago) Permalink

who's hot who's not

― game of crones (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:18 (11 months ago) Permalink

C'MON LIL' RABBIT

― fauxmarc, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:31 (11 months ago) Permalink

why are there two rick mccollums

― mookieproof, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:41 (11 months ago) Permalink

Dave Rosser from TS/GT/AEWGDAML on 3rd gtr (drummer is from Cursive and Okkervil River but also played in GT and on last Twilight record)

― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:28 (11 months ago) Permalink

haha thx. i only saw 'miles iz ded' and they pretty much showed only dulli and the drummer.

― mookieproof, Thursday, 31 May 2012 22:35 (11 months ago) Permalink

oh man so glad they've finally started announcing non-fest/non-ny/non-euro dates. dc in septemberrrrr

― fauxmarc, Monday, 11 June 2012 20:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

this was great, so great.

how've i never sat there and gawked over mccollum before?

kid on drums seemed SO HYPED to be there, good times

― fauxmarc, Monday, 1 October 2012 19:47 (7 months ago) Permalink

saw them twice this year and they're probably two of the best shows i've seen. a real joy to witness a band this tight.

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:57 (7 months ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

sweet jesus christ -- i saw them in chicago on saturday and i am still thinking about it. my only regret is not bringing/wearing my rabbit mask.

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 20:21 (6 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

http://www.thefader.com/category/faderfort

live now

― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

Thanks!

― Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol climax

― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

w/usher even

― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE DONE SAME GIRL BUT THAT RULED

― maura, Saturday, 16 March 2013 02:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

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